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Refusing Swine Flu Vaccine? Quarantine and $1,000 Per Day Fine


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AniTa
- 93 days ago - examiner.com
you don't get the Swine Flu vaccine, you can be ordered into quarantine. If you refuse the quarantine, you can face a fine of $1,000 per day that you resist. This is the same Swine Flu vaccine that the government itself is unsure of the vaccine's
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AniTa H. (146)
Monday August 31, 2009, 11:23 am
that has recently passed the Massachusetts senate gives the government a little too much power. The bill is being hurried along due to fears of a Swine Flu pandemic this flu season.

According to the bill, if there is a Swine Flu pandemic and you don't get the Swine Flu vaccine, you can be ordered into quarantine. If you refuse the quarantine, you can face a fine of $1,000 per day that you resist.

This is the same Swine Flu vaccine that the government itself is unsure of the vaccine's safety, yet they are issuing penalties if it is not taken.

Government officials would also have the right to enter private property to asses the status of the pandemic.

To see the whole story, see the news clip below.
 

Simone D. (895)
Monday August 31, 2009, 11:28 am
Thank you Anita.
 

AniTa H. (146)
Monday August 31, 2009, 11:57 am



Swine Flu vaccine contains the diseased flesh of African Monkeys
Parents allow Swine Flu vaccines for their kids but say they wouldn't take the shot themselves
Scientists are predicting that the Swine Flu will wreak havoc in the coming months as fall and winter approach. To protect yourself, a new Swine Flu vaccine has been released that is supposed to work like the traditional flu shot.

Trusting in the doctors, many people are blindly lining up to receive their jab. There are many alarming facts about the Swine Flu vaccine, but what's also alarming is the unknown.

Doctors have begun to give their patients the Swine Flu vaccine without studying how this vaccine works in humans. The production of this vaccine was so rushed that there was not time for human testing, and the vaccine went straight to the market. Human testing will not begin until after the Swine Flu vaccine has already been administered to many unsuspecting patients.

Even more astounding is the release of the vaccine in Europe. Not only are they allowing injections to take place without human testing, but the European Medicines Agency is allowing the test process to be completely skipped.

 

Blue Bunting (855)
Monday August 31, 2009, 12:17 pm
I want every member of Congre$$ vaccinated fir$t!
 

Kari D. (172)
Monday August 31, 2009, 2:49 pm
I'm with you 100% Blue Bunting!!!!
 

Dar D. (282)
Monday August 31, 2009, 3:53 pm
I guess I will be quarantined, heh, if this comes to pass in Michigan. The media is reporting on this "must vaccinate" push, that they could actually be considered top advertisers, at this point. Very disturbting, because too many in the Detroit area, don't know the whole story to this important issue. Noted and thank you.
 

David Buchan (161)
Monday August 31, 2009, 10:21 pm
Has anyone told the "homeless" people about mandatory quarantine?...How long will they have a roof over their heads and how many meals per day?...It's a great idea!

Away with the untested vaccine!...I have read that the majority of doctors in my land will not take it, and so...Will there be enough beds for the "homeless" and me? :-)

 

Pastor Tim Redfern (515)
Monday August 31, 2009, 11:25 pm
Well, I've seen this one coming
for some time now. I really can't
say I'm surprised.
The vaccine is NOT safe, and whatever
they may threaten you with, do NOT take
it! The vaccine itself is questionable,
but the biggest problem with it the thimerasole,
a mercury-based stabiliser in the vaccine.
Do YOU want to be injected with mercury?!
Is it a coincidence that autism has exploded
in children who have been injected with vaccines
containing thimerasole, to the point that autism
now occurs in 1:120 children?!
Bottom line, if any government official/employee
comes at you with a syringe and a needle, save your
own life and run screaming in the opposite direction
....which is exactly what I plan to do!
Thank you , dear AniTa!
noted.
 

Pastor Tim Redfern (515)
Monday August 31, 2009, 11:27 pm
You cannot currently send a star to AniTa because you have done so within the last week.
 

Scarlett P. (93)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 10:00 am
I want the prez and his family vaccinated first. I won't take anything he hasn't got the guts to take first....
 

Judy Cross (83)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 10:05 am
Yes, but how do we know Obama and family would be getting anything more than a dummy shot with nothing more dangerous than distilled water?
 

Kim stands for PEACE (140)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 10:36 am
So, if the threat of quarantine doesn't make you take the vaccine, paying $$$$ will somehow 'make it ok'??? Sorry, had to ask b'cuz I didn't see what would happen if you didn't (couldn't pay). With so many in dire straights $$ wise, how will this be enforced? And.... what happened to Constitutional Rights?? *!!* That's right... I forgot, the Patriot Act! :p
 

Lady Libertarian (76)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 11:27 am
Bush tried this a couple of years back when we had the ALL soooo very scary Avian Flu.
The ACLU finally did it's job and put it's foot down and called it a violation of Rights.
Which it is.
People start screaming to your Senator and Congressmen\women to STOP THIS HEINOUS violation of our rights.
Including the President himself for ALLOWING this to happen.
Scream people...scream!
 

Mike K. (42)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 12:01 pm
You know maybe this is a sweep of the humman population by the government,i would not put anything past the government,JEEESS,WHAT NEXT.
 

Mary Neal (186)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 12:27 pm
Funny how concentration camps and stacks of coffins preceded H1N1 by several years, ain't it? Revelation is my least favorite book of the Bible, until the final chapter!
 

Scarlett P. (93)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 12:31 pm
I agree Judy... Can't believe much he says...
 

AniTa H. (146)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 12:45 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4SmFxyust0
 

Robi V. (19)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 1:07 pm
I am seeing so much happening in our Country that worries me. First of all: Our Constitutional Rights are being changed right under our noses and it's like no one is seeing it!! Secondly: The fact that the government alone is taking charge of everything, (Pretty Messed Up) is definately NOT a good sign either PEOPLE! Wise Up!
We ARE HAVING THE WOOL PULLED OVER OUR EYES!!!
What's the matter with us?
Are we really this naive? I smell a RAT....
now.... let's talk about Rights... Am starting to believe... What Rights?
I always believed that America was the Land of The Free! WE THE PEOPLE...FOR THE PEOPLE... I was always Proud to Be An American... I Still Love My Country.... but I don't Love who seems to be running it!! I refuse to be told that I have to take this vaccine and that if I refuse.... I will be fined!!!! I am really pissed about this!! I believe also that those who are shouting out all of these orders.... should all be first in line (along with their families) to take this vaccine... I just don't have a good feeling about any of this. I believe that I have the right to voice my opinion and it feels good to be able to.
 

Blue Bunting (855)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 1:12 pm
Robi, you started speaking out when Bu$h/Congre$$ passed the Patriot Act, right?
 

Jamie Clemons (139)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 1:21 pm
Im not taking the poison stick.
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 1:46 pm
STOP healthcare bill

this bill contains death panels!!!

This is a letter written by Dr. Stephen Fraser to Senator Bayh. If you would like to send it on to your Congressman, he says to feel free to copy it and send it around to our friends and to senators and representatives.

July 23, 2009

Senator Bayh,

I ask you respectfully and as a patriotic American to look at the following troubling lines that I have read in the bill. You cannot possibly believe that these proposals are in the best interests of the country and our fellow citizens.

Page 22 of the HC Bill: Mandates that the Govt will audit books of all employers that self insure!!

Page 30 Sec 123 of HC bill THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benefits you get.

Page 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill: YOUR HEALTH CARE IS RATIONED!!!

Page 42 of HC Bill: The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC Benefits for you. You have no choice!

Page 50 Section 152 in HC bill: HC will be provided to ALL non US citizens, illegal or otherwise

Page 58 HC Bill: Govt will have real-time access to individuals finances & a National ID Health card will be issued!

Page 59 HC Bill lines 21-24: Govt will have direct access to your banks accounts for elective funds transfer.

Page 65 Sec 164: is a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their families in Unions & community organizations: (ACORN).

Page 84 Sec 203 HC bill: Govt mandates ALL benefit packages for private HC plans in the Exchange.

Page 85 Line 7 HC Bill: Specifications for of Benefit Levels for Plans = The Govt will ration your Healthcare!

Page 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill: Govt mandates linguistic appropriate services. Example Translation: illegal aliens.

Page 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18: The Govt will use groups i.e., ACORN & AmeriCorps to sign up individuals for Govt HC plan.

Page 85 Line 7 HC Bill: Specifications of Benefit Levels for Plans. AARP members your Health care WILL be rationed.

Page 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill: Medicaid Eligible Individuals will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid.. No choice.

Page 124 lines 24-25 HC: No company can sue GOVT on price fixing. No judicial review against Govt Monopoly.

Page 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill: Doctors/ American Medical Association The Govt will tell YOU what you can make! (Salary)

Page 145 Line 15-17: An Employer MUST auto enroll employees into public option plan. NO CHOICE!

Page 126 Lines 22-25: Employers MUST pay for HC for part time employees AND their families.

Page 149 Lines 16-24: ANY Employer with payroll 401k & above who does not provide public option pays 8% tax on all payrolls.

Page 150 Lines 9-13: Businesss with payroll btw 251k & 401k who doesnt provide public option pays 2-6% tax on all payroll.

Page 167 Lines 18-23: ANY individual who doesnt have acceptable HC according to Govt will be taxed 2.5% of income.

Page 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill: Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual taxes. (Americans will pay)

Page 195 HC Bill: Officers & employees of HC Admin (GOVT) will have access to ALL Americans finances /personal records.

Page 203 Line 14-15 HC: The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax Yes, it says that!

Page 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill: Govt will reduce physician services for Medicaid Seniors, low income and poor are affected.

Page 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill: Doctors, doesnt matter what specialty you have, youll all be paid the same!

Page 253 Line 10-18: Govt sets value of Doctors time, profession, judgment etc. Literally value of humans.

Page 265 Sec 1131: Govt mandates & controls productivity for private HC industries.

Page 268 Sec 1141: Federal Govt regulates rental & purchase of power driven wheelchairs.

Page 272 SEC. 1145: TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS Cancer patients welcome to rationing!

Page 280 Sec 1151: The Govt will penalize hospitals for whatever Govt deems preventable re-admissions.

Page 298 Lines 9-11: Doctors, treat a patient during initial admission that results in a re-admission -Govt will penalize you.

Page 317 L 13-20: PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Govt tells Doctors what/how much they can own!

Page 317-318 lines 21-25, 1-3: PROHIBITION on expansion- Govt is mandating hospitals cannot expand.

Page 321 2-13: Hospitals have opportunity to apply for exception BUT community input is required. Can u say ACORN?!!

Page 335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339: Govt mandates establishment of outcome based measures. HC the way they want. Rationing.

Page 341 Lines 3-9: Govt has authority to disqualify Medicare Advance Plans, HMOs, etc. Forcing people into Govt plan.

Page 354 Sec 1177: Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs people! Unbelievable!

Page 379 Sec 1191: Govt creates more bureaucracy Tele-health Advisory Committee. Can you say HC by phone?

Page 425 Lines 4-12: Govt mandates Advance Care Planning Consult. Think Senior Citizens end of life patients.

Page 425 Lines 17-19: Govt will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney. Mandatory!

Page 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3: Govt provides approved list of end of life resources, guiding you in death. (assisted suicide)

Page 427 Lines 15-24: Govt mandates program for orders for end of life. The Govt has a say in how your life ends.

Page 429 Lines 1-9: An advanced care planning consultant will be used frequently as patients health deteriorates.

Page 429 Lines 10-12: advanced care consultation may include an ORDER for end of life plans. AN ORDER from GOVT!

Page 429 Lines 13-25: The govt will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order.

Page 430 Lines 11-15: The Govt will decide what level of treatment you will have at end of life!

Page 469: Community Based Home Medical Services = Non profit organizations. Hello, ACORN Medical Services here!!?

Page 472 Lines 14-17: PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORIGINATION. 1 monthly payment 2 a community-based organization. Like ACORN?

Page 489 Sec 1308: The Govt will cover Marriage & Family therapy. Which means they will insert Govt into your marriage?

Page 494-498: Govt will cover Mental Health Services including defining, creating, and rationing those services.

Senator, I guarantee that I personally will do everything possible to inform patients and my fellow physicians about the dangers of the proposed bills you and your colleagues are debating.

Respectfully,

Stephen E Fraser MD
 

Dan S. (0)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 2:22 pm
(There were so many responses to this story I didn't have time to read them all. So, I apologize if I say something someone else has already said).
Who wants to bet me that gun sales in this country are going to skyrocket soon? I hate guns. But it is time I get one, because I am going to shoot the first government/medical official that comes toward me with this death vaccine! Hey, I already have the HIV virus that was developed by our government in the African Congo. Enough is enough. I REFUSE to be controlled any longer by our government.
 

Blue Bunting (855)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 2:29 pm
Republican Rep: We'll Repeal Health Care Reform If It Passes
 

AniTa H. (146)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 2:37 pm
What has chaned since Obama cameto power???
 

Gillian M. (105)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 2:40 pm
America the land of the free and upholders of democracy
 

AniTa H. (146)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 2:41 pm
Typos...!!! What has changed since Obama??? Other than having many more troops deployed to Afghanistan? he certainly has not changed the torture policies. If anyone can show me otherwise i'd LOVE to see it!! ..sad to say it will only get worse..George Carlin had it right when he said "They own You" ..."The politicians have long since been bought and paid for"
 

Deborah L. (3)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 2:47 pm
Robi V: you are only as free as the government lets you think you are free. The Bush administration rescinded over 90% of the Bill of Rights and has shredded the Constitution before the current President took office. I have followed closely the restrictions and eliminations of "our rights and freedoms" taken away by G.W. Bush, mostly when congress was on vacation or recess. The more you look into what was taken from you from 2000-2009(January 20) you might be shocked and most of it can be found online from the government websites.

For those that worry you will be forced to receive this injection. There is not enough doses of vaccine now and it will take longer than you think to produce sufficient quantities for everyone to receive this shot.

I will not take it as I never take flu shots. I am usually allergic to the base used in all vaccinations and get by with a medical pass. I am currently on a medication for a medical condition and am the research subject for that medication by Alexion Pharmaceuticals and the FDA is monitoring me as well to see how that medication affects this medical condition. Yes, sometimes I joke about being a guinea pig and if push comes to shove and they say I have to take this flu shot, I will no doubt get a pass on it as it may interfere with the research.

Krisjanis K: We already have rationed health care thanks to the insurance companies. This letter you have provided contains half truths/lies, depending on what was edited out of each page. It had been a trick used by the GOP to only print partial lines that may point to a certain outcome, but when you take the whole sentence or paragraph the outcome is totally opposite than what you think is the truth. This is a common ploy used to stir up the masses who will believe anything told to them and unless they do the research themselves and most don't, they will have stirred the people up with false testimony so they go out and hinder the passage of this bill.

Some people believe that those who have no medical insurance only have to go to the ER to be treated. That they cannot be denied service. Don't bet on it. And who do they think is going to pay the tens of thousands of dollars(yes that is correct) for the treatment and any prescriptions which can cost hundreds if not thousands of dollars per treatment. I have been there and done that when I had no medical insurance and I only went when it was a dire emergency, unlike many who go to ER for everything. If there was a government option for those who cannot afford but need medical wouldn't you want to see to it that people had that choice and if you want and can afford your own private medical costs, until you become sick and they throw you off or cost more than you can afford, you can still keep it, wouldn't you appreciate some type of medical coverage for yourself if you lost your medical coverage for whatever reason or do without it altogether?

There are no death panels. However, the current for profit medical insurance companies do have them. They are the ones who decide to deny treatment for medical diseases or conditions, or they delay them until after the patient dies, or they make you go through up to 10 or more other treatments for your medical problem before finally ending up at the last option, which was maybe your doctors 1st or 2nd choice, thus costing you hundreds of thousands of dollars of unnecessary medical procedures and testing only to arrive at the same treatment in the end. It happens, mainly to discourage you from getting the proper treatment in the first place and if they didn't play these games, which they can now justify raising your premiums for, they would not make more money off of you, and in the end they will kick you off their policy coverage as you may end up costing them some profit money. Illegals will not be eligible for this medical plan. The so called death panel-the DNR of living will as it is called,but Sarah Palin called it a death panel-which BTW she thought living wills were a good thing to have just months earlier-this so called plan would allow you to talk to your doctor about what you want done with YOU if you become unable to decide for yourself. It is not putting granny down, and if you want everything done, that will happen. This part of the bill, which has been lied about would have the government pay for the doctors time talking to you and you would not have to pay for this advice yourself. That's it. I had my lawyer draw up my living will when I had major surgery several years ago. Only this ignorant and uninformed would fight this based on lies and partial truths. Research it, it is not that scary and everyone should let their doctor and family and preferably a lawyer have copies of your last wishes, and it may not be your time to go, you know things happen to people who are young also and it is easier legally to have all of this done ahead of time. That way you would not have a circus about your life like we saw with Terry Schiavo.
 

Deborah W. (1)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 4:48 pm
If anyone tries to force me to take that shot especially just to show me how much more powerful they are than I am, I have a very nasty surprise waiting for them. I kick hard, and I know WHERE to kick. My cousing developmed Gullaine-Barre syndrome from a flu shot, and I am not allowing ANYONE to violate my civil liberties!!! Do you get that government! If you try to force me to take a vaccine that has caused even more serious illness in people than swine flu, you government people will sorely, very SORELY regret it! I punch pretty hard too, by the way.
 

Lady Libertarian (76)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 5:03 pm
Deborah says ~
Some people believe that those who have no medical insurance only have to go to the ER to be treated. That they cannot be denied service. Don't bet on it.
I am not sure what state you live in..but in Texas if you go to any ER they can NOT refuse to treat you.Period!
Those costs are then dispersed in the rising cost of Health Care that everyone is complaing about.
I have know many people and had family from Mexico come here and go to the ER for treatment without insurance.Not one was ever turned away.

Dan I am so sorry for your health.I pray for you and all those affilicated with this horrible disease.
That is why I do not understand all those who speak out against the government involvement in human experiments like HIV,The Tuskegee experiment and now this, can actuallt trust the government to then RUN our healthcare system.
Someone Please tell me how that actually makes any sense?
It does not make any sense.

I have never taken a flu shot in my life.
i have had the flu before and lived and built up an immunity to it.
Wait immunity...omg!
What does a normal flu shot do to those that are sick with HIV?
Your immunity system are so fragile already.Wouldn't it kill people with HIV?
I know my doctor had told me when I was pregnant NOT to get the flu shot,because it would harm the baby.
My god!

They will have to quatine me and charge me money,because I am not takening it or my kids.
 

Mark G. (26)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 6:05 pm
What amazes me is many (not all fortunately) of the people who believe that the government cannot be trusted enough to force flu shots on everyone are the same people that want to turn over the entire health care system to this same government. What do you think happens when the "single payer government" has total say on your medical care? You'll take your damn shots and shut up about it. Insanity.
 

Blue Bunting (855)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 6:07 pm
Oh, Mark, we all know you'd rather see Rum$FAILed make another bundle on the swine flu and have privatized "for profit" health care for all AmeriKKKan$.
 

Blue Bunting (855)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 6:12 pm
AniTa asked "what has changed since Obama came to power?"

Anita are you listening to Bill Maher again? Bill is completely out of touch with reality. Maher is asleep at the wheel.

Obama has shown more audacity than a baker's dozen of his predecessors. He has started a comprehensive reform of the USA in just a few months. He's done more for the country than the last five presidents combined. Just a short list: Moving oil addicts to renewable energy, building an electricity grid, changing the entire direction of the auto industry, getting Israel to start realizing that there must be a Palestine, ignoring North Korea and sending its puerile "leader" climbing the walls to get some attention, a complete overhaul of the financial system, including regulating the banks, something no one has done ever, putting in a rational procurement system for the military, turning the Republicans into an imitation of cold oatmeal, reversing the perverse policies of his immediate predecessor, and so on and so on.

George W. Bush spent the first nine months of his administration doing exercises, taking vacations and reading kiddie books upsidedown.

 

Lady Libertarian (76)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 6:43 pm
Uh Blue have you not been watching news lately.Obama has at least two vacations so far.
And he is changing America alright!
But not for the better.
Hence this horrible attack on people's rights by forcing them to be vaccinated.
How even in the face of a policy that even YOU disagree with can you still say that the administration is doing all the right things?
It is Obama's policy to force these quartines by using US troops against citizens (I believe that is called a militray takeover) and to intimadate and fearmonger people into getting a vaccine we DO NOT want.Including you!

So seriously.
Take stand here Blue.
Be it one way or another.
Take a stand.
You are either for his policies and his changes.
Or you are not.
Because you can't be both on something as serious as this.
 

Blue Bunting (855)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 7:59 pm
You've not had a vaccination forced on you yet, have you Lady Lib? I think NOT! More hype from the Obama haters. I'm last on the list to be vaccinated and I'll tell them I'm allergic to eggs.


In case you haven't noticed, I've taken a stand. GWB antichrist...Ugly Christian...Proof we're a 'Christian' nation...

 

Mary Neal (186)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 8:07 pm
Refuse and Resist Mandatory Flu Vaccines - The Petition Site
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/refuse-and-resist-mandatory-flu-vaccine
 

Deborah W. (1)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 8:19 pm
What amazes me is many (not all fortunately) of the people who believe that the government cannot be trusted enough to force flu shots on everyone are the same people that want to turn over the entire health care system to this same government. What do you think happens when the "single payer government" has total say on your medical care? You'll take your damn shots and shut up about it. Insanity. It works both ways, Mark. Those who oppose socialized medicine will be clamoring to get the socialist flu shot.
 

Shawn S. (7)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 8:51 pm
Thank you for the post. I was sure something like this would happen, I just didn't think it would happen so quickly.
We have to fight against this it is unconstitutional!
I have the right to refuse any medication, including a vaccination that I don't need!
Enough is enough!
 

Opheeliya Fire-Kracker (22)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 9:20 pm
...hmmmmm........can anyone say "Squalene?" (MF 59 adjuvant) ie H1N1 vaccine. ask some war vets who were vaccinated and now suffer from "Gulf War Syndrome). a law was passed in 2004 that this particular adjuvant is not to be used in any vaccines. to much squalene can cause seriously debilitating neurological symptoms/illness either almost immediately after recieving it or some years down the road...Multiple Sclerosis, Lupus, Arthritic diseases, Retinal-neuropathies. look it up, do the research, read beyond the sentence that squalene is derived from sharks and is used in lotions and oils....educate yourself, this Novartis and other pharma. cos. concocted vaccine goes way beyond that. ........~noted anita, thanks!
 

AniTa H. (146)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 9:28 pm
Blue...i don't watch Bill Maher. I am not in the USA. I don't like Bill Maher, he is another 'front' to fool people. I have never said i didn't like Obama, but i really don't see that he has changed or is changing anything. I don't think he can, for whatever reason, maybe reasons we don't know about. he doesn't have an easy job..i believe he wants change, but he cannot. But what about Afghanistan??What about outsourced torture?
 

Opheeliya Fire-Kracker (22)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 9:28 pm
...BTW, just an add here, anyone who wishes to refuse has that right, its been researched very well, and as far as i could see, you have the legal right to refuse along with constitutional law, sorry i'm not good at copy/paste...but if you want to read any of this info, send me a note.
 

AniTa H. (146)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 9:33 pm
I still prefer Obama over any one else. i think he is doing as much as he can within his limitations. Watch George Carlin...as i said before "the politicians ae just put there to give you the illusion that you have a say in things" "YOU DON'T!!"
 

Blue Bunting (855)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 10:09 pm
In Washington, President Barack Obama said Tuesday that while swine flu vaccinations will be voluntary, the government will "strongly recommend" that people get them.
 

Blue Bunting (855)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 10:11 pm
AniTa, are you not in the U$A because you can no longer afford health care and it's $250/year for health insurance in Mexico for someone who establishes a residence?
 

AniTa H. (146)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 10:34 pm
Blue...that's not why i am not in the US!!!!! Nonetheless it is certainly ONE of the MANY reasons to choose to be somewhere else. I could give you a long list of reasons but i think it all started when we invaded the sovereign nation of Iraq. I could be in the UK if all i cared about was the healthcare.
 

Ancil S. (42)
Tuesday September 1, 2009, 11:26 pm
I guess they might have to lock me away,I just don't see taking it.I work in a hospital,but would hate to get sick and pass it along to a patient.
 

Lauren Stone (579)
Wednesday September 2, 2009, 2:01 am
Our government wants to force people to take vaccines, yet people are still in an uproar about schools teaching safe sex and making condoms available. HIV/AIDS is much more prevelant than any flu.
Don't think that vaccines are "UNtested". They are tested on an uneducated public on a massive scale.
Americans are vaccinating themselves to death. The more vaccines we take into our bodies, the weaker our immune systems become. Thus leaving us more open to illness for which the government will create new vaccines and the cycle goes on...
Vaccines have been linked to ADD (ADHD), Asthma, Allergies, Autism, SIDS, just to name a FEW. For the sake of yourselves and especially your children, PLEASE research brfore you take any vaccines or allow your children to be given them. There are NO safe vaccines.
http://www.vaclib.org/index.htm
 

Lady Libertarian (76)
Wednesday September 2, 2009, 6:06 am
Blue you keep on babbling.
But you are right you have takena stand.
As a Obama supporter NO matter what he does to the American people,including forcing this vaccination upon everyone.
That is the point of this post.That HIS administration is trying to make it mandatory and force it on people.
Reading is good for you.
You say you refuse to take it.But IF the bill passes then what will you do?
And this has nothing to do with Christians.This will affect ALL citizens no matter your religious backgrounds,soci-economic backgrounds and so on.
That is the reason this was posted to inform people about what the government is planning on doing.
Bush tried it and failed!
But Obama has sooo much pull in the media and in DC that this is very possible for him to do THIS!
WHO cares who is in office!
Care about what they are DOING and planning on doing to the people!

And I say everyone here for our health and safety needs to take a stand and demand that these violations of rights NOT go unchallenged.
 

faith a. (181)
Wednesday September 2, 2009, 6:50 am
Opheelia u are right on regarding the Squalene.... fairly harmless untill injected straight into the blood stream then it's a real problem... the people in Mass.need to have a throw the bums out party regarding their legislators for passing this and they should have education... hopefully there is a care2 member in that state who is willing to begin this in the street.
It is imperative that people get educated regarding vaccines and how they are made along with the damage they do. People need to know more about alternative health programs and treatments to help with the flu of any kind. If we do not break the mesmerizing hold of fear that the AMA and CDC has on the population and everyone here does not learn for themselves then all is lost... Each of you tell ur neighbors,ur friends,ur co-workers ,download information hand it out as flyers,leave it in the libraries,on peoples doorsteps,in stores ,on cars in parking lots,wherever ,no government fear should be in this info... just the truth about vaccines and the facts regarding ..then people will start questioning their doctors and health care people and demanding natural health care,good nutrition information and alternatives such as homeopathic and more. We can not afford to wait any longer ...Hit the streets!
 

Chaz Gaily Berlusconi (252)
Wednesday September 2, 2009, 7:46 am
Sherbet... an infringement on the rights of people who live in a demorcractic society...we have choices... and rights..
 

Dragonfly Kid (16)
Wednesday September 2, 2009, 10:44 am
did a little research on Stephen E. Fraser M.D. PACK OF LIES

http://roytflores.blogspot.com/2009/08/stephen-e-fraser-md-on-july-23rd.html
 

Kelly c. (103)
Thursday September 3, 2009, 11:58 pm
Talking about rights - AMA (American Medical Association) and ChildrensHealthcare.org are doing us humans a great disservice by actively seeking and promoting ways to abolish religious and philosophical exemptions! Exemptions that give humans the freedom to reject vaccines on religious or philosophical grounds! AMA had in the past tried to shut down all chiropractors, calling them cheats and "people of unscientific cults". More: http://su.pr/1P34dC

Thanks Anita for this discussion and highlighting important issues!
 

Blue Bunting (855)
Saturday September 5, 2009, 2:28 pm
Canada to Vaccinate Entire Population
 

pete O. (246)
Saturday September 12, 2009, 5:34 am
Good buisness strategy, create a monster then make everyone pay for it to go away.This far beats paying for sins to be forgiven - well done the Swine who thought this up.
 
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