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David C (25)
Thursday January 30, 2014, 12:38 pm
hmmm. GOOD !? - - - - for farcebook&co..

Tj H (14)
Thursday January 30, 2014, 1:11 pm
If you have found this story please do share it or at the very least the link to thread at Feedback & suggestion's

Sheryl G (364)
Thursday January 30, 2014, 4:15 pm
I will do so, thanks for notifying.

Past Member (0)
Thursday January 30, 2014, 4:19 pm
Thanks Tj

Tj H (14)
Thursday January 30, 2014, 5:01 pm
If you follow the link to the thread may I,
FIRST ask that you concentrate on the TOPIC, that is the removal of shares and related links to them & that you have until the 30th of june to rescue anything you may have in them.

2nd I apologise in advance for what is an all to familiar degeneration of the thread(s) in F&S, into what can only be called a "free for all" & in no small part for my own participation in the later tone of exchange.

Please note I did also apologise in thread - although I got more green stars for my comments there than I have had in most of my time here at care2 - some were obviously amused, I am sorry Non the less for any offence.

Angelika R (143)
Friday January 31, 2014, 9:15 am
Why is this new item not listed on the C2NN page under the Offbeat section? Only if you do a search, knowing the title, it leads to here-? or did I overlook it?

Tj H (14)
Friday January 31, 2014, 9:48 am
Most likely to do with the number of notes is got - New stories become old news very quickly sometimes due to the number of stories being posted.
I do hope that people are sharing this information with other members even if they don't wish to note or use this story.
Have posted Announcement and link to all groups I'm with.

Birgit W (160)
Friday January 31, 2014, 10:26 am
Thanks for sharing.

Angelika R (143)
Friday January 31, 2014, 10:31 am
So have I already yesterday, thx TjH. Never mind me not noting it here, though.
I do not actually know if this is always that way that submissions to Offbeat don't have any link at bottom and/or top for "more", or "older", "last 24 hrs" etc, like the other sections have. They appear to be more limited, just few. But of course it would also make perfect sense for C2 NOT WANTING to have this listed on the newspage to not be "seen" by the wrong "cybermembers",- just speculation..

Angelika R (143)
Friday January 31, 2014, 10:36 am
I am also acknowleding that once again here on thread you threw in parts of the linked post and pointed out your previous apology. I for one have accepted that and think it was needed,too. but just try to live up to the graphic you posted!:) I do know that you had little friendly comments about Zen earlier, which I disliked, I think you get me.
The green star mentioning here from likely a certain "faction" was not really necessary. Sorry for being so outspoken, similar to yourself. ;)

Athena F (131)
Friday January 31, 2014, 12:39 pm

S J (130)
Friday January 31, 2014, 4:21 pm
noted, thanks Tj

Past Member (0)
Friday January 31, 2014, 7:46 pm
Thank you for posting this information. I understood it completely and you have done a nice job doing so. Although I don't personally use a share book feature I do read others shares to news pages so I appreciate the information. : )

Tj H (14)
Friday January 31, 2014, 8:09 pm
Maybe A few more will get the message now it's made the front page.
Thank you all who have shared the information / announcement & article.

DaleLovesOttawa O (198)
Friday January 31, 2014, 8:44 pm
Good to see this posted in the news section, however, sadly, not all members read the news section of Care2.


Julia R (295)
Friday January 31, 2014, 9:11 pm
Noted, Thanks for TJ.

Sherri G (128)
Friday January 31, 2014, 10:19 pm
Noted TY Dandelion

Monika V (442)
Friday January 31, 2014, 11:09 pm
I think its a pitty and a loss for Care2 !
I know members who use the share very often and also group shares with interesting articles and important actions will disappear.

Past Member (0)
Saturday February 1, 2014, 2:28 am
That's a bit sad. But the effort continues...
Thank you for sharing it TJ, and thanks also to Dandelion :)

Pamela W (75)
Saturday February 1, 2014, 10:12 am
TjH ..... Thanks for posting the link to F&S !! However I sincerely hope that other members, wanting to become part of that group, (for whatever reason) have MUCH better luck than I've had .... I've been "pending" for membership for roughly 5 MONTHS, despite applying several times !!! At that rate of progression the date limit will already have passed for anyone wanting help or information about the Shares "issue" !!

Angelika R (143)
Saturday February 1, 2014, 12:24 pm
Hm, Pamela's comment here suggests that NON -F&S members cannot even READ the post and get the info needed? SURPRISE! THAT is what happens when a job is left up to members that should be the task of staff or management, depending WHOSE decision it was! Hope I'm wrong, else this newspost wouldn't be worse the carbon footprint wasted on it.

Pamela W (75)
Saturday February 1, 2014, 2:16 pm
That's not what I actually meant Angelika, but it stands to reason that people who have questions/problems and are not able to post them (due to not having been "admitted") will not be able to get them answered. TjH's post "If you follow the link to the thread may I, FIRST ask that you concentrate on the TOPIC ..... " would seem to imply that anyone can post a query on there ..... this is most DEFINITELY NOT the case - sorry if I didn't make that clear. Nowhere does TjH or the link say that information is going to be published, so all members will know how to tackle things .... a GROSS oversight, IMHO, if that is not envisaged !!! We may all be members but we are NOT all "tech geeks" and some people may need guidance to do what's necessary to safeguard the information they want to keep - don't you agree ?

Pamela W (75)
Saturday February 1, 2014, 2:37 pm
p.s. to previous comment ........ Eric posted "Please let me know if you have any questions!!" + "Let's take this opportunity to hear both your feedback and what is on your wishlist??!! How, might I ask, does a non-F&S member do that either of those things ??? Just asking ...........

Tj H (14)
Saturday February 1, 2014, 3:20 pm
"I am happy to report that, prior to the announcement, we did pull a list of the most active Share users and I have been contacting them individually to let them know of this upcoming change."

"If you have a friend or know of a user that posts or uses the Shares, it's not a secret and you can let them know or send them the link to this thread! That is what a community does, so if you can lend a hand, please do! It's not a requirement, but helping each other does make the world spin a little smoother from where I stand."

Any member of care2, So long as they are logged in can access and read what is in Feedback & Suggestion Threads.

Let us not forget that we all have untill the end of June to retrieve what we may wish to, so please lets not be panicing yet.

In the first instance I would suggest that we get the message out there, care2 have already made a start on this as per quote above; as I understand it the announcement was then brought to F&S for the very reason - as has been done in all my time with Care2 - covered in the second Quote; to inform & obtain the assistence of members in preparing for what is to come.

Okay, so if you have any problems or questions - in regard to SHARES - start with this

Help request

I am also more than happy to have Questions posted here for those who cannot post directly to F&S, this will come up as a notification and if not seen by C2 support who I'm sure will be watching - I will take it to F&S for you, help myself if able, ultimately Email Eric from Care2 support directly.

There are any number of "tech's" "nerds" "geeks" who just love this type of thing & I'm sure that each and every member who really needs help will be able to get it in the FIVE months we have.

Pamela W (75)
Saturday February 1, 2014, 5:03 pm
Thank you, TjH, on behalf of those who do have questions ..... I suspect most of them will appear HERE, rather than via the other options you propose - get ready for the onslaught LOL !! My reasons for wanting to join F&S were not SHARE-related, so I shall respect your request to stick with this topic on here. I will, however, say that I have tried your suggestions for "my" problem and can get absolutely NOWHERE, so my only remaining option is to just KEEP trying to join F&S - perhaps ANOTHER 5 months might see a result ?? Thanks again, anyway.

Angelika R (143)
Saturday February 1, 2014, 5:42 pm
Oops, I just revisited here to see how the noting and spreading awareness of this awkward decision was puzzled at what I read above. thx Pamela,though for clarifying my obvious error-being a member I don't kno what other non members can access aor not.
As for the rest and that offer TjH is making there, why the detour? would it not make more sense to directly fwd the request to GET APPROVAL after 6 months or so? Logical, no? and easier/shorter than taking any other tech query for a wishlist to that thread. BTW, I recall Eric telling ME back then, when my application was ALSO PENDING for over 10 days or so, that he was NOT AWARE OF SUCH MESSAGES AFTER ANY APPLICATION FOR MEMBERSHIP! And TjH might be the only one here, or one of the very few who don't know/have experienced that link for help never returning any replies..Lucky him!

Tj H (14)
Saturday February 1, 2014, 6:41 pm
Many thx for your comments and feedback :)

When I first joined care2 - long before my currant profile says I've been here - it was under duress, a small group of friends had joined & could never get anything to work, believe me what we have today is a dream to what it was - Not great, but I'll take it any day over what was C2.

Only ever joined to help and a onslaught keeps my mind busy so hit me.

BTW - I know the help request's are slow - they call it priorities 1st.

& yes maybe I'm a lucky one, but I don't recall ever not getting an answer, often after I had consulted someone else or solved it myself, but an answer none the less.

Not 100% sure on the selection process now - but in the day ( i feel so old ) it was referral / recommendation & if you got in - mind your P's & Q'S, if you posted some of what I see now, you were out darn quick, which wasn't great if you'd been on the list for a long time - Mine was I believe 8 mths.
Membership there restricted for good reason & no where near selective enough in my opinion, I know quite a few who will not post at all because of the way a small number of members tend to react

BTW Eric has a % of 30,000,000 + members shouting at him daily one way or another - his not alone but he gets most the stick :(

Can I help?? Send an intro / question / I don't know it all / but I'll find you an answer.

Regards Tj

Shan D (49)
Sunday February 2, 2014, 3:21 am
'If you have found this story please do share it or at the very least the link to thread at Feedback & suggestion's " (Tj H.)

As I said in F&S... interesting how SHARE is the feature most efficient to use to tell people that the SHARE feature will be taken away in a few months! Personally I'd have put up a site-wide banner that all "23 million" of us could see, no matter which page we were on... but that's just me. Still, your effort here is better than nothing.

Tj, I don't kniw who you apologized to, but I don't get the impression I was included in that. Saying "Up yours", even by image, merits an apology, I should think. I am normally an even-tempered person, but not when I'm flamed, trolled, and giggled at for posting legitimate complaints and concerns (I'm sure you recognize which other people to whom I refer),

Angelika R (143)
Sunday February 2, 2014, 3:38 pm
Looks like Shan may have forgotten to insert a comma there between two numbers? and that "30,000,000 + members"-what is it with THAT?? He is not responsible to support ALL social network sites! :D
Thx TjH for all other things you elaborated on above.

Shan D (49)
Sunday February 2, 2014, 6:58 pm
"Looks like Shan may have forgotten to insert a comma there between two numbers? and that "30,000,000 + members"-what is it with THAT?? He is not responsible to support ALL social network sites! :D" (Angelika R.)

Angelicka, if you are criticizing me for a trivial instances of mixing numerals and words to express a number, please don't compound your error and accuse me of what Tj H. wrote. In both cases you have misunderstood something.

Whether one writes out "20 million" or "20,000,000" it means the same thing to pretty much anyone, unless you're a mathematician or a "grammar-nazi."

I *should* let Tj H. defend himself, but since you accused me of his "mistake" which wasn't actually a mistake: his using the plus sign meant "there are probably more than the number I quoted, but I'm not sure how many." OF COURSE it doesn't mean he thinks Eric is responsible for ALL social network sites! But he IS responsible for ALL the members of Care2 - and by behaving in a responsible, *professional* manner, which does not (in my opinion) offload the responsibility of informing all these *millions* of members we supposedly have that the Shares feature will be removed in a few months.

Angelika R (143)
Sunday February 2, 2014, 7:21 pm
Dear Shan, you got that totally wrong, nevertheless I apologise if you think I should, no question. I was neither criticising you nor did I misunderstand anything. I was merely in my own, sometimes a bit sarcastic way saying that, in MY opinion perhaps 2,3 Million REAL members would hit closer to the facts. That is of course sarcastic understatement! Same goes for that vast exaggeration of even 30,000,000 members! Even if all the spam/scam plus dead avatars and what have you were counted in, those are dream numbers! But sure nice business numbers. Everyone has been wondering about that number of 23 + million not having changed in ages.

Angelika R (143)
Sunday February 2, 2014, 7:25 pm
And I assume TjH did see my ":D" there after my statement! But i have no problem apologizing to him as well, in case he missed the humor. Peace and love now! :)

Tj H (14)
Monday February 3, 2014, 5:24 am
The point "I" was trying to make is that some people post in a manner that the world beyond them, doesn't exist,

that if they have a Leaking tap it should be dealt with, even if the person charged with doing so is fixing a crack in the Hoover Dam.

30 MILLION >PLUS< whether fantasy or not - I did use a ..... % ..... sign as well - so the total actually doesn't matter - the individual should not expect all else to be dropped just for someone to kiss their boo boo.

However please do keep up your back and forth - All of your comments are at least serving the purpose of keeping this item in the popular news section - which means more are likely to see it and get the message it was posted to give .....

+ or PLUS its doing great for the Greenstars / Butterfly rewards / thank you notes & gives me a laugh in the moments I have no BOO BOO's to kiss.

I make no Excuse or Apology you are welcome to Kiss Mine & or Leave.

Pamela W (75)
Wednesday February 5, 2014, 1:08 am
WOW !!! ....... Whatever happened to CARING ????

For years I shunned the idea of joining any social media site, after hearing horror stories of people relationships / lives / peace of mind being destroyed by them. Then I found Care2 and "thought" how wonderful it was ...... but I guess maybe it was all too good to last ? .............

Gina Caracci (219)
Friday February 7, 2014, 8:48 pm
I only used shares cuz it takes forever to send a message to everyone at once..

David C (25)
Saturday February 22, 2014, 3:18 am
> we will be will be retiring Care2 Share shortly.
(A) "retire" as in not allow NEW posts
(B) "retire" as in DELETE

while i would have some (not much) understanding for (A) i have none for (B)

David C (25)
Saturday February 22, 2014, 3:20 am
> We will be REMOVING Shares and shares related content from the site, including the navigation bars, MEMBER PROFILE PAGES
-- nocomment--


Shan D (49)
Saturday February 22, 2014, 8:28 am
"BTW Eric has a % of 30,000,000 + members shouting at him daily one way or another..." (Tj H.)

Interesting math. Did you find a hidden cache of members that Care2's account-tracking abilities overlooked? Even the banner up top says only 24.8 million members (not that I believe there are really anywhere close to that number of active members).

It sure is a shame that one of the individuals who could have helped people deal with how to preserve all their Share material isn't here anymore...

Tj H (14)
Saturday February 22, 2014, 8:33 am
She's gone .... get over it and get over yourself ... I'm sick of hearing the same old diatribe - and this thread is not the place to address it ....

Angelika R (143)
Saturday February 22, 2014, 9:14 am
The stats on care2's relevant sites clearly state some over 18 million members. I was also wondering where this sudden jump came from to over 1 million MORE now from a previous number of some 23,5 million, that had not changed in AGES. Remains a mystery to me.

Angelika R (143)
Saturday February 22, 2014, 9:18 am
But i would not doubt for a minute that all the SURGE of spam/Scam ads which created profiles to slip in here, are of course included in the total number-and those too create clicks and site hits, by the hundreds or thousands-how convenient.. Only, by C2's own words, "the advertisers prefer real people"- lol, yeah! well, SOME of the scammers are just that.

Tj H (14)
Sunday February 23, 2014, 5:36 am
When I first came to Care2 .... WHEN NOAH was a twinkle in his fathers eye .... it was simply to use the beautiful E#cards .... I then didn't return for a number of years - this still goes on today !!! So yes we have a lot of members who are likely un-aware of 90% of what care2 is all about ....

the number as quoted earlier in this item was correct as per the numbers displayed at the head of our pages ...
this number has now been greatly reduced due to the hard work of ERIC & other staff who are managing to get on top of and remove false / fake / spam, accounts, in no small part due to the community doing what it should in flagging such fecal matter when it is found or presents it self on site ....

At any rate is the number of members of any real relevance to this article or pretty much anything else on site where people seem to want to use it to make some kind of point which is again REDUNDANT.

The only thing that matters is the membership is in excess of ONE - therefore there is more to be dealt with than some of the individuals petty BS that they seem to think should take priority over everything else...

Beginning to wish the membership was for under 10's only - the behaviour would be vastly improved.
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