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Lawmakers Criticize Letter on Clinton Aide

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Members of Congress have joined in bipartisan chorus condemning Rep. Michele Bachmann after she contended that a top aide to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has ties to the Muslim Brotherhood and that the organization's penetration of U.S. government

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Nancy C (806)
Saturday July 21, 2012, 3:00 pm
She feels unappreciated, unrecognized and wants some attention...

Cheryle N (4)
Saturday July 21, 2012, 3:52 pm
Bachmann is vile and delusional. Remember when she wanted to root out the unamerican members of congress...we should start with her.

Joe R (190)
Saturday July 21, 2012, 4:39 pm
Sounds like a new incarnation of McCarthyism.

"Have you no sense of decency?" Ms Bachmann?

Time for Minnesotans in the 6th district to toss Michele out.

Barbara Erdman (63)
Saturday July 21, 2012, 4:43 pm
Noted and Thanx Carrie :-0

Yvonne W (229)
Saturday July 21, 2012, 4:58 pm
ROFL! Even a TeaBagger should know when to just STFU!;) It's hilarious when RepubliCONs turn on each other.

Past Member (0)
Saturday July 21, 2012, 6:47 pm
Michelle "Wackmann"

Carol H (229)
Saturday July 21, 2012, 10:00 pm
she is a piece of work!!!

P A (117)
Sunday July 22, 2012, 2:24 am
Arizona, Texas, Georgia and Florida have Representatives who joined with Batty Bachman in signing this letter - folks - you now know who to deselect when the next elections come round!

Jay S (116)
Sunday July 22, 2012, 5:01 am
Bachman has little credibility in anything but there are genuine reasons for concern about Ms. Clinton's and Mr. Obama's relationship with the Muslim Brotherhood and its US front groups and the Saudi influence in them all.

'According to the website of the Center for the Study Of Islam and Democracy (CSID), Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is scheduled to give the keynote address at the organization’s 10th annual conference on May 5. Also scheduled to attend the conference as a panelist and//or moderator is Dr. Kemal Al-Helbawy, a leader in the global Muslim Brotherhood who has defended the terrorist targeting of Israeli children and who in 1996 was denied entrance into the U.S.'(

Clinton and Obama have been working with the OIC (Org of Islamic Conference), made up of the 57 Muslim-ruled nations or those with a large minority of Muslims, to silence criticism of Islam and its teachings of hate. Islam teaches that those who criticize, question of leave it must be killed, as should gay people. It demeans women and teaches of their inferiority and that their role in life is to serve and sexually service men. It also condones the 'marrying' and sexual abuse of little girls by old men, just as Mohammed 'The Perfect Man' did himself.

Yet, it is illegal in all Muslim countries to even tell the truth about the debauched murderous life of Mohammed as told in Islam's own histories and holy books and brings prison or death! Now they want it to be international law and this administration is working to help that come about. They helped the OIC to finally pass a form of this in a UN resolution this year.

OBAMA ADMINISTRATION ADMITS TO 100s OF BEHIND CLOSED DOOR MEETINGS WITH THE MB FRONT CAIR. Obama's State Dept. may not list the MB and its US front groups like CAIR, ISNA, ICNA, MAS etc as associated with terrorism but they have been convicted in US courts for funding it. and

The Obama administration again, to protect Islamists, has stopped listing religious persecution in its State Dept. reports because Muslim occupied lands are the worst and most violent persecutors of other religions. They even had the gall to declare Boko Haram Islamist terror group that has slaughtered 100s of Christians in Nigeria, destroyed churches and declared they were going to drive out or kill all Christians in northern Nigeria, is not committing genocide or religious crimes, but they are simply a 'political' group.

This, and more, is why many people are becoming very concerned about the Obama administration and its silencing legitimate criticism/questioning of Islamist terrorism all over the world and for its strong support of the Muslim Brotherhood and Saudi overthrow of several Muslim-ruled countries which now are seeing repressive Sharia law being implemented from Egypt to Lybia and with Syria next to fall.

Christians, Jews and Bahais are being ethnically cleansed in many Muslim lands right now and Obama has refused to even meet with Christian leaders from there who came to beg for his intervention. Whose side is this guy on??? If this was happening to Muslims he'd send in the troops.

In his 2009 Cairo speech, President Obama said, "I consider it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam whenever they appear." It's one of the few things he has been very successful at for the past 4 years.

He certainly hasn't done anything for the Christians in every Muslim dominated land who are being burned and driven out, churches destroyed (over 300 in Obama's Indonesia alone), persecuted and murdered. Not a peep has he made about this Islamic genocide against Christians, nor has he condemned the hate teachings against all non-Muslims in Islam and the calls for the killing of all Jews, as Mohammed and Allah command.

There is much reason for this administration to be investigated and sooner than later.

Carola May (20)
Sunday July 22, 2012, 5:23 am
Even the US Congress has called for the US Department of Justice and Attorney General's Office to sever all ties with the Muslim Brotherhood's US CAIR affiliate because of their sinister background and activities. The Saudis back and fund the Muslim Brotherhood and have spent over $87billion USD of your oil purchases in promoting hatred of the West/US in the 80% of US mosques and Islamic schools (Madrassas) they control. These people are our enemies. Why are you defending them? It is frightening how ignorant so many of you are as to what the Muslim Brotherhood and its affiliates are doing and what their agenda is.

Islam commands that Muslims conquer all the world and force us all to live in submission to Islam under the barbaric Sharia Law. They are told to conquer us by the sword, by deception, by infiltration and by outbreeding us. They aren't able to any longer conquer us by the sword as they did all the currently occupied Muslim countries, but they are succeeding very well in the remaining ways to take us over.

The Motto of the MB (same as that for Hamas):
"Allah is its goal, the prophet is its model, the Qur'an is its constitution, jihad is its path and death for the sake of Allah is its most coveted desire."

The FBI captured a secret document in a raid on the US Muslim Brotherhood offices that outlined their goals in the US/West. If you don't think they are very serious and making good headway with it you are incredibly ill-informed and naive indeed:
"The Ikhwan (brotherhood) must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and "sabotaging" its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God's religion is made victorious over all other religions. Without this level of understanding, we are not up to this challenge and have not prepared ourselves for Jihad yet. It is a Muslim's destiny to perform Jihad and work wherever he is and wherever he lands until the final hour comes, and there is no escape from that destiny except for those who chose to slack."

The Muslim Brotherhood and CAIR et al have trained you all very well and the mainstream media who turn a blind eye to the Islamist Jihad against us all by their shouting 'Islamophobia' every time anyone points out some Islamist hate crime or act of terror, no matter how well deserved the criticism or questioning is.

If you believe anything Muslims say in public you don't understand a thing about it. Islam teaches its followers to lie to non-Muslims to promote Islam and to help gain advantage over us. What they say to you is NOT what they say to each other and in the mosques:

"They may say one thing to you in front of CNN but I can assure you behind your backs... they are standing with their Muslim brother and sisters... It is an Islamic obligation."
-- Imam Anjem Choudary UK Islamic Scholar, Theologian, Lecturer London School of Sharia

pam w (139)
Sunday July 22, 2012, 8:00 am
As Secretary of State, Hilary Clinton has an OBLIGATION to interact with representatives of other nations, especially emerging democracies. This is her JOB! She's intelligent, perceptive and understands fully how to maneuver her way through the Muslim "mess" (MY term..not hers.)

Give her some credit....give President Obama some credit, too. If the Egyptian people have elected leaders, WE have the obligation to deal with them.

Notice I didn't say anything about TRUSTING them?

monica r (41)
Sunday July 22, 2012, 8:56 am
I suppose that if Joe and Magda Goebbels had a daughter, and in the early 1940s she landed a job that gave her access to not only the US Secretary of State, but thousands of sensitive documents, that would have been just fine? Or if someone from a family of KKK or white supremacist militia was Mrs Clinton's deputy chief of staff, this would be of no concern?

Ms Abedin's father and mother and brother should count as "known associates" as per security clearances, yet she does not seem to have been vetted in this way. Her brother is associated with known terrorists, including ones banned from entry to the US. Her mother is active in the Muslim Sisterhood, and Mrs. Clinton made a special side trip to meet her. Just a social visit? Or was there more there? And now thanks to the US and Mrs. Clinton the MB are running Egypt (and the Egyptians who wanted freedom threw shoes at her recently because from their perspective the US sold them out to the Brotherhood). The Muslim Brotherhood wasn't founded to oppose "British occupation of Egypt" as stated in the article (they did, but that was later). Al-Banna was more interested in spreading Islam to achieve the global caliphate. In plain English, this means Islamic rule everywhere, and though you may not be forced to convert, you WILL live under shari'a. Al-Qaeda and other terrorist organizations (Hamas, Hezbullah) are spawned from the MB, so though we aren't at war with them, one could certainly make the case that they are at war with us, as their document quoted above makes plain.

If Ms. Abedin is the one lone standout in her family with NO allegiance to the MB, despite the rest of her family being in it up to their eyeballs, then an investigation should prove that, as well, so she should welcome it. People with nothing to hide don't need to hide.

monica r (41)
Sunday July 22, 2012, 8:59 am
And for the record, if a month ago you had told me I would agree with Michelle Bachmann on ANYTHING, I'd have peed my pants laughing at that.

But fair is fair, and I think she's right that this should be looked at.

TomCat S (129)
Sunday July 22, 2012, 9:05 am
At first, all but McCain originally supported her. They switched only because of the public outcry.

Carol Dreeszen (346)
Sunday July 22, 2012, 12:18 pm
It's always better to ERROR on the side of CAUTION!!! It's unbelievable that so many would want to error on the side of trusting someone that has KNOWN terrorists as blood relatives and not be concerned!!! This type of mentality is good reason everyone in this country should be greatly concerned!! It's like the fox guarding the hen house! This appears to be the mentality of the liberals in this country and they are OK with it!?!? Michelle Bachmann is a smart woman and she is justified in wanting this to be investigated!! After all...if there is nothing to worry about what is the problem with it being investigated!? I would think people would want it to be investigated in order to clear their claim that there is nothing to it!! On the other hand.......IF there is something to it then I can also see why people would NOT want it to be investigated! Either way our country is not in any position to be able to not be concerned about something like this!!

Dianna M (16)
Sunday July 22, 2012, 1:16 pm
. . . when was the last time you had your meds adjusted, Ms. Bachmann?

monica r.--So, you believe in "visiting the iniquity of fathers on the children and on the grandchildren to the third and fourth generations"?

Kevin Lewis (1)
Sunday July 22, 2012, 2:18 pm
What do you expect, that is Michelle Bachmann!

Jae A (316)
Sunday July 22, 2012, 2:18 pm
Be it Muslim,Christian,and on and on with various religions..those within anyone of them that are 'extremist' should have utmost caution used when trying to 'deal/interact' etc. with them. That being said...M. Bachmann is as suppect as any Muslim extremist is in my opinion. Never up to anything of benefit or good for the masses,regardless of their religion/race etc. In my opinion the women is certifiable Guano Crazy and a Christian 'extremist'...a very dangerous combination as to anything she says and or that she is promoting. The rightwing have not been able pin a Muslim tail onto Obama himself, as hard as they've tried to imply/suggest/suspect/want him to be this to me, is just their plan B for 'pinning a Muslim extremist tail' onto someone, via hyped B.S. and or just over the top crazy....for which their mode of doing so is to have one of their crazies,such as Bauchmann, 'put it out there' and enough will believe it..especially those already against whoever it is they/rightwing crazies are targeting.

I will agree with those who see how close to many in our corporate government system who are so closely tied to those in Saudi they so due to business dealings or governmental reasons, need to be watched very very closely . Had that been done when Dubya was in office, we probably would have saved a lot of lives as well as our economy.
Corporates are taking over governments all over the world, and religions are in the mix trying to get a cut of it all for yes...caution and logic are always needed when we read/hear about things to do with any and all of our corporate government reps. ...aka...politicians/staffers etc. in my opinion. Unfortunately the rightwing crazies like Bauchmann have burnt out their 'cries of Wolf' to such a degree that they can't be taken serious for even a moment by those who do use logic and want facts in their thinking/daily lives when it comes to anything political..... in my opinion.

Fred H (31)
Sunday July 22, 2012, 3:16 pm
The Muslim Brotherhood, by its own internal documents, is truly frightening. During the McCarthy days, the Communist party did not have the same access to the government that the MB has today. I, for one, would feel more comfortable if it were investigated. "Have you ever been a member of the MB?" is a far different question from "Have you ever been a Muslim?"

Gloria p (304)
Sunday July 22, 2012, 3:20 pm
How did she get elected?

Audrey L (37)
Sunday July 22, 2012, 6:36 pm
This crazy sick woman is a danger to our country. Minnesota send her packing, she is a disgrace.

patrica and edw jones (190)
Sunday July 22, 2012, 6:45 pm
From what she has said - Bachmann has a right to be concerned. We all know what the Muslim Brotherhood's intentions are and it is to Hilary and Baraks shame that they support this ruthless, monstrous group of ne'er-do-wells - whose intentions are out there for all to see -SUPPORT THE GROWING TIDE OF ISLAM AND WORLD DOMINANCE.

William Y (54)
Monday July 23, 2012, 5:56 am
Open mouth, insert foot

Lloyd H (46)
Monday July 23, 2012, 7:02 am
Fear and hate, fear and hate, what the hell else do you expect from the intentionally ignorant who have no actual substance to or verifiable facts for their politics or their agenda for Christian Sharia as the basis fro American law and the US Constitution. And i am referring to not only NutCase Bachmann and the other Repug/Tea Bagged politicians but to Rob and Jay B., Carola May, monica r. et alia. There was no basis for any of the other 'Wolf cries' from Bachmann of King, and it was more of the same kind of insane fact-less crap the killed Bachmann's run at the Repug Presidential nomination. Now more of the same crap as distraction from their disastrous policies and the fact that they want to turn the US in to a Christian Iran, Saudi Arabia,... that differs only in the name of the religion running the Theocracy and nothing else.

JL A (281)
Monday July 23, 2012, 8:21 am
May the voters in MN see her like she is and elect a replacement.

M B (62)
Monday July 23, 2012, 2:09 pm
Rubbish comes out of her mouth.

Nancy Dodson (18)
Monday July 23, 2012, 7:02 pm
Personally I'm much more afraid of Michelle Backmann and her ilk than I am of the Muslim Brotherhood. This hatred of Muslims has to stop. Please judge each person for who they are and not for where they were born and what religion they choose to follow. Actually I'm more afraid of the Evangelical Christians than I am of any Muslim. They are really the ones who are trying to force their beliefs on the rest of us. Sorry, I'm not buying it!

Methinks these attacks on the Muslim Brotherhood are just another Republican scheme to keep their voters terrorized into voting for them again as they certainly have nothing positive to offer the country!

Wayne W (12)
Monday July 23, 2012, 10:09 pm
As has become commonplace, the Daily Show has the best reporting on this.
A commercial may run first.

The short version. Bachmann: Huma Abedin, in a high profile State Department job that requires a stringent background check and married to a pro-Israel Jewish guy, is the daughter of a man, long deceased, who once knew a man, even longer ago, who knew a man who headed up a group that may or may not not have had ties to the Muslim Brotherhood in indeterminate ways.

Jon Stewart: It has recently come to light that HSBC has been laundering money for terror groups. HSBC contributed $1000 to Michelle Bachmann's campaign. Michelle Bachmann. Terrorist?

Carola May (20)
Tuesday July 24, 2012, 6:52 am
Too bad some people don't actually do some research. Bachmann is a toad, but even toads can be right about some things, and she is right to ask that this White House/Administration be investigated for its links to one of the largest terror funding groups in the world - the Muslim Brotherhood whom Obama and Clinton have been working with for a long time. You're being very PC naive in falling for the MB's deceit, along with their front groups like CAIR, ISNA, ICNA, MAS et al. They never tell us infidels what they really think or mean to our faces. That's been clear for some time.

APPEALS COURTS UPHOLDS TERROR CONVICTIONS OF Muslim Brotherhood, CAIR and other US front groups.

Here's what Walid Shoebat, an ex-muslim terrorist who has turned his life around and now risks his own life to try to warn us all what his ex-friends are up to, and he says that Huma Abedan has never been properly vetted (it's not PC in Obama's WH to check out or question any Muslims) and comes from a MB family. Read what this man says, and he knows a lot more about the Muslim Bro. and Islamist hate and terror and goals than you PC people who fall for the 'Islamophobia' scam invented by the MB to do just that.

Read Shoebat's article on why Abedan should be checked out:

This exact same thing happened with Hitler and Nazis in the 1930s and those who condemned them and their goals and tried to warn of their danger were laughed at and called bigots, like Churchill. The Liberal establishment like Chamberlain, Lindburgh, The Times of London and BBC and even church leaders all defended Hitler and the Nazis even after they began their extermination camps and invading other countries. None of these PC Liberals wanted to 'offend Hitler' and the BBC and Times even refused to report the killings and hate speeches and tortures of church leaders their own reporters were telling them about. People just like many of you were just as naive about the Nazis and their founder. The MB was founded with ties to Hitler and the Nazis if any of you Islamist appeasers were sharp enough to do a little research.






It's incredible the level of ignorance spouted by some here. You actually quote from a comedy 'news' show and expect that is going to tell you the truth? You should be ashamed.

Carola May (20)
Tuesday July 24, 2012, 7:39 am
GW Bush was quietly associated with Muslim terrorists too:

1998-September 2001: New Lobbying Group Connects Bush to Some Muslim Activists with Alleged Terrorist Sympathies

Khaled Saffuri.Khaled Saffuri. [Source: Paul Sperry]Grover Norquist, one of the most politically-connected Republican lobbyists, founds a group to build Republican support among Muslim Americans. Norquist cofounds the Islamic Institute, sometimes called the Islamic Free Market Institute, with Khaled Saffuri. Saffuri is executive director and Norquist is chairman of the board.

The institute operates out of the headquarters of Americans for Tax Reform, Norquist’s main lobbying group. [New Republic, 11/1/2001] The start-up money largely comes from Middle Eastern sources. Saffuri’s former boss at the American Muslim Council, Abdurahman Alamoudi, gives at least $35,000. Alamoudi has been suspected of ties to bin Laden and other Islamic radicals (see Shortly After March 1994) since at least 1994 and will later be sentenced to 23 years in prison (see October 15, 2004). The Safa Trust donates at least $35,000, and the International Institute of Islamic Thought (IIIT) contributes $11,000. Both organizations are part of the SAAR group and are among the organizations raided in early 2002 (see March 20, 2002). [St. Petersburg Times, 3/11/2003] Norquist is very close to future President Bush. The Washington Post will later comment that “even before President Bush’s election, [Norquist] positioned himself as a gatekeeper for supplicants seeking access to Bush’s inner circle.” [Washington Post, 7/9/2006]

The St. Petersburg Times will later note that after the founding of the Islamic Institute, “then-candidate Bush began popping up in photographs with various politically connected Muslims (see March 12, 2000). The only problem was, many of these same prominent Muslims were also under scrutiny by federal investigators for links to terrorism.” [St. Petersburg Times, 3/11/2003] The Islamic Institute becomes a key power center for Muslim activists currying favor with Bush and other Republicans, and these alliances lead to more Muslim American votes for Bush. Norquist will later claim, “George W. Bush was elected President of the United States of America because of the Muslim vote.” [New Republic, 11/1/2001]

After Bush is elected president, Saffuri regularly appears at the White House with imams and heads of Islamic organizations to lobby for policy changes. Suhail Khan, who was a director of the Islamic Institute, is the point person arranging the Muslim groups’ access to Bush. Khan’s late father was imam at a mosque in Santa Clara, California, which once hosted a visit by Ayman al-Zawahiri, al-Qaeda’s number two leader. Norquist apparently boasted that he got Khan his White House post. [New Republic, 11/1/2001; St. Petersburg Times, 3/11/2003]

It will later be alleged that Norquist’s ties to people openly sympathetic to Islamist militant groups stifled investigations before 9/11 (see March 20, 2002). Shortly after 9/11, one recently retired intelligence official will claim that a number of counterterrorism agents at the FBI and CIA are “pissed as hell about the situation and pissed as hell about Grover [Norquist].” [New Republic, 11/1/2001]


monica r (41)
Tuesday July 24, 2012, 8:01 am
"So, you believe in "visiting the iniquity of fathers on the children and on the grandchildren to the third and fourth generations"?"

No. But we aren't talking about her great-great grandfather. We're talking PRESENT generation, immediate family. I realize it is possible for siblings to differ in political ideology, or children to differ from parents, but when the WHOLE FAMILY has involvement (and it's not as vague as the comedy "news" show states), her mother is active in the Sisterhood (segregated female branch of the MB) her brother is on the board of an organization that directly links to known terrorists, how is that not worth checking into? Especially when the MB were basically handed Egypt, where they had previously been outlawed, by this Administration.

Sadly, when your grand-daughters and great-grand-daughters are getting their clitoris hacked off and forced to wear a burka because your head was in the sand (or up something else) and the results of your PC ignorance is visited on the future generations, no doubt they'll curse this generation. By the way, Huma Abedin's mother is a strong proponent of veiling, child marriage, and FGM, and she is in print endorsing books that support it, as well. The ideology of Islam is inherently misogynistic, leading to widespread human rights abuses against female muslims. Read up on FGM and honor killing for a start.

Vlasta M (7)
Tuesday July 24, 2012, 8:05 am
We are stuck between a rock and a hard place in the USA!. We will try to educate the Mormon businessman and if he is truly a Mormon, he will not cavort with Islamists for oil, as Obama does even without oil. We need to neutralize (or neuter) those violent guys who murder for Allahu Akbar and oust their helpers in the West, who sold their souls to Mammon-oil. Idolatry of such kind is dangerous to Western civilization!

Don't forget that the British and French had created the Arab monster, with their lax policies toward Arabs with their White Paper and later by letting Amin al Hussein escape justice for his Nazi activities in Germany during WWII. This vile Nazi Muslim with his delusional Jew hatred is the major reason for the "Palestinian problem", which is an excuse for all Muslims to hate Western Civilization, Israel and USA. This is all because of OIL. Then consider that Nazi Kurt Waldheim had been helping defame Israel at the UN (from 1972-1981) and continued serving this supremacist ideology of Islam, similar to supremacist Nazi ideology, which he served in WWII, with its delusional Jew hatred that led to Holocaust.

We MUST GET AWAY FROM OIL and thus stop funding terrorism around the world, which is fueled by oil money from Saudis and Iranians. All those Western governments and corporations are enablers of the most vile Islamic regimes who are violators of human rights everywhere and whose countries are basket cases because of corruption and supremacist ideology of Islam, which is incompatible with the freedom of though and action.

Oil and Islam must be shipped OUT of our world, since they are incompatible with the US Constitution and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights or with environment. Islam either REFORM or has NO place in our modern society, which respects human rights or ALL individuals. Obama MUST be retired in November, since he is a clear danger to the US and Western civilization by his extolling Islam and Koran, while dissing Bible, and by cavorting with Islamists, who want to destroy US. Time for wake up and hold our politicians accountable for their actions against US and human rights everywhere!

We will not be free as long as we depend on Arab and Iranian oil! Thus go green totally and make oil irrelevant in our lives. Then this supremacist ideology of Islam will disappear into the sands of history, as it should since it is not fit for human consumption.

Jay S (116)
Tuesday July 24, 2012, 8:05 am
Lloyd H, what an incredibly ignorant person you are. You know absolutely nothing of what is going on, you give no proof of your arrogant, ignorant, leftist schlock. Where's you documentation for your insulting of people who can run circles around you in knowledge of this cult of death and hate?

People here, like us, who have been studying Islam for the past 4 -5 years and have been shocked and sickened by what we've learned, are giving references and proofs. You give nothing but the response you've been programmed to give. We're embarrassed to think we were once as braindead ignorant and PC blind and you are. Well, ignorance is no excuse.

Until you do some research and read the Qur'an, hadith and sira, then study the Muslim Brotherhood, whose whole goal is to fulfill Mohammed's and Allah's command that Muslims conquer the whole world into submission to Islam and its barbaric sharia law, you shouldn't make a fool of yourself making uninformed statements. Islam has been trying to conquer us all for 1400 years - first with the sword with which they successfully conquered all the lands where they now occupy and rule (where not one Islamic ruled country has freedom of speech, conscience or religion because Islam does not allow it.

Mohammed told Muslims that they must conquer us all whether by force (the sword), infiltration, deceit (they use this every time they speak to us) and/or outbreeding us. They can't conquer us with the sword now but they are very successfully doing just that with all the others.

The Islamists are using our freedom and tolerance to defeat us and they don't allow anything of the like in their own conquered lands, you'll note, if you are not too naive for that. They've infiltrated to the highest levels of government, education and the media.

Grab a history text from your local middle school and see just how successful they have been in having all true history of Islam's violent, murderous 'conversion' and conquest spree has been removed and replace with the new PC story of how people flocked to Islam because it was so beautiful and loving.

Mohammed is now a Christ-like figure of love and peace instead of the mass murderer, pedophile, rapist, slave owned, adulterer, torturer, bandit, liar and warlord that all 3 of Islam's trilogy state clearly and unapologetically that he was.

If rightwing fundamentalists in the US had done that it would cause outrage, and rightly so. Yet, Islam gets a special pass on anything it does and demands. If you really cared about civil and human rights you'd be alarmed by Islamic commands. You really need to do some study and decide what side you're on.

Time for you Islamist apologists and appeasers to put up or shut up. Where's your documentation to back up your naive claims about peaceful, loving Islam and its modern army - the Muslim Brotherhood? Let's hope it's people like you who aid these enemies of freedom who will be their first victims. Maybe then you'll wake up from your Islamist Kool Aid slumber.

Google 'dhimmi'. You're it.

monica r (41)
Tuesday July 24, 2012, 8:36 am
"Fear and hate, fear and hate, what the hell else do you expect from the intentionally ignorant who have no actual substance to or verifiable facts for their politics or their agenda for Christian Sharia as the basis fro American law and the US Constitution. And i am referring to not only NutCase Bachmann and the other Repug/Tea Bagged politicians but to Rob and Jay B., Carola May, monica r. et alia."

Lloyd, Ignorance and PC, Ignorance and PC, what the hell else do you expect from the intentionally ignorant who have no actual substance to or verifiable facts for their politics or their agenda? I know R&J, Carola, and myself have no love for the Tea Party. As a public school teacher I am rabidly pro-separation-of-church-and-state and I guarantee none of us want a theocracy of any stripe (I'm not sure about Carola, but R&J are atheists, so silly you, saying they want a "christian" theocracy). And I fight just as hard against these Dominionists who want theocracy, because no theocracy is ever good, and because the Dominionist ideology is against principles I hold dear. But so is the ideology of Islam.

Just because Bachmann is conservative doesn't mean she's wrong about EVERYTHING. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Despite the results of studies that an alarming percentage of American mosques teach hate, despite the actual agenda for infiltration and sabotage from seized MB documents being quoted here, you insist there's no problem. I disagree. I look at women's issues, and that is very scary. Islam victimizes women. I care about all women's well-being, not just middle class white ones. I'm not talking about someone who's planning to blow something up. I'm talking about how the mainstream ideology of Islam supports huge abuses and muslim women are the main victims. I'm talking about how people you would call "moderate" still will enact terrorism on their own wives and daughters (FGM, forced marriage, veiling for some, honor killing). The nice moderate muslim guy next door also thinks gays should be executed because Mohammed said so.

Pardon me if I prefer not to be subject to shari'a. Over 50 cases in the US, including assault and mainly domestic violence cases, have favored shari'a over US law. You see, women, the quran says, are less than men and have lesser rights. Are you in favor of that? I've got no beef against the vast majority of muslims, except that the ideology itself is problematic in that it gives half of them license to horribly oppress and dehumanize the other half.

Far from being "intentionally ignorant", I've read the quran and hadith so I know what's there and exactly why I oppose that ideology. Similarly, I've educated myself about Dominionists. I'm not like you, just glomming onto the PC cause-du-jour and defending an ideology without knowing anything about it.

Vlasta M (7)
Tuesday July 24, 2012, 3:05 pm
I had read the ori9ginal letter signed by 5 US Congressmen, including Michelle Bachman, which is well documented. Her concerns about Obama administration cavorting with the Muslim Brotherhood, a Jihadist organization hell; bent on murdering Jews and Americans, are well founded and SHOULD b e investigated. Obama's administration, cavorting with other and other Islamist organization is endangering not only US soldiers and US and Western civilization.

Supremacist ideology is Islam is similar to supremacist ideology of Nazis, with its delusional Jew hatred, and hatred of free thought and speech. While Obama cannot help his Muslim past in Indonesia and his extolling Islam and Koran,

One should remember that the terrorists of 9/11 (most of them Saudi citizens) did not scream Hail Mary, Our Father, Shema Israel or OM when plunging planes into WTO, but Allahu Akbar, which is a war cry of all Islamic terrorists, including American born and educated Muslims, such as as Dr. Nidal Hassan, US Army psychiatrist who shouted All,au Akb ar, while murdering 13 of his colleagues at Fort Hood. Islam is INCOMPATIBLE with either US Constitution or with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. US Congress should be concerned about US administration links with the islamists since they hate human rights and everything that is American, except our technology and standard of living which they envy.

They are bringing the world back into the evil medieval sharia rules which are incompatible with human life, as their dysfunctional countries demonstrate. When one does not have a freedom of thought, one becomes a warped individual as those Islamists are. Islam MUST reform or has not place in ANY civilized society taht cherishes freedom and human rights. Political correctness must be replaced with the reality checking if you respect human rights and UC Constitution, since Islam is about power and control over people and demands SUBMISSION to a blood thirsty Allahu Akbbar..

Carola May (20)
Wednesday July 25, 2012, 6:37 am
Well, Walid Shobat, an ex-muslim terrorist who now fights against it and tries to warn braindead PC westerners of the danger that we face has amassed an excellent document proving Clinton's aide, Huma Abedin's ties to the sinister, terrorist international, Saudi funded Islamist Orthodox organization:

For those who are willing to open their eyes and learn the truth.

Now Lloyd et al show us proof that the Muslim Brotherhood hasn't infiltrated Obama's White House. We've given, all of us who actually know about these things, more than adequate proof of this and all you haters can do is call names and rant your PC leftist drivel. I'm waiting for your proof instead of just your baseless lies and accusations against those of who work for freedom and human rights while you and your ilk all defend their enemies.

BTW Monica, I, like my friends Rob and Jay, are not atheists but we do not believe in any religion. We believe in a Creator of pure unconditional love who is much better than most religion offers. We don't believe a good god would ever condemn anyone to an eternity of torment, and we especially do not believe in Islam's hateful commands that people who question or criticize or leave Islam should be killed, nor should people who happen to have been born gay. Apparently Lloyd and his other uninformed friends here would condemn us for opposing hate. How sad.
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