Tuesday August 7, 2012, 2:58 pm
Romney is a LIAR.
He can't run on his record so all he can do is spew lies about The President.
What an @$$.

Tuesday August 7, 2012, 3:27 pm
I think this says it all ...and it certainly should put a zip lock on threads like that of Carol D. who used/posted an article using our troops to say they were being kept from voting by the White House ...when it is they that the lawsuit is trying to stop their law to suppress early voters in Ohio....

Great post/article Carrie.
It' time we 'all' stop letting those on the rightwing from going unchallenged as to their post/comments here on care2 . Their care2,primarily teabagger choir, need to be shown that we are not going to let their false 'singing'..propaganda... continue without speaking out/comment our views/presenting facts, on their rightcrazywing threads and not just on those posted by the leftwing. It is time to end their propaganda machine on care2 as to it continuing without questioning/opposition from the left,and by doing so in numbers...on thread after thread topic There are far more of us than them on care2..a 'progressive site'...even when including all their fake/shell/user/member idenities.

To me it's disgusting as it is shameful for them to continue to use our troops for their political agenda/lies spreading machine. They used the 'support the troops' during the early years of the current wars in order to keep people from questioning,in public at least, why the hell we were there in the first place...even after all reasons given at the time were proven to be false.

For our troops sake we must help defend them from the rightwing polical propaganda machine !! The troops have done enough for the rightwings corporate profits and that of a few others ...It's time they leave our troops out of their greed and political propaganda.....in my opinion. I think 'Enough is enough' of that kind of political propaganda tactic crap .

Tuesday August 7, 2012, 3:45 pm
Thanks Jae, but Carol D is too full of Obama conspiracies and misinformation to care.

Tuesday August 7, 2012, 5:04 pm
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/786/050/497/romney-dont-restrict-veterans-voting-rights/

Please sign if you want to tell Romney what you think about this dirty trick.

Thanks!

Tuesday August 7, 2012, 7:22 pm
thanks Carrie, noted

Tuesday August 7, 2012, 7:32 pm
Hyper link to care2 petition Romney Don't Restrict Veterans' Voting Rights

Wednesday August 8, 2012, 5:45 am
This is a new low, even for Romney. Worst presidential candidate ever.

Wednesday August 8, 2012, 6:13 am
Thanks Carrie - this is good news if the military are speaking out against Rmoney's lies!

Wednesday August 8, 2012, 6:28 am
Mitt is so smarmy!

Wednesday August 8, 2012, 7:06 am
You cannot currently send a star to Jae because you have done so within the last week.....dayum, the Care2 star police won't allow me to send it, Jae!

Signed and shared the petiton, thanks for the link.

Smarmy? ROFLMAO.....Joe, I haven't heard that word in a long while....I love it! Yes, he is smarmy....and slimy on top of that.

This is what I do not get, Jae, why are hardcore Tbaggers/libertarians, GOPers, et al....being permitted to INVADE our PROGRESSIVE site? Do they not have a 'Conservative' site of their own to stay on? I long for the old dayz (back when there was less than 2 million members, yeah I've been here that long!) when all that were here were animals lovers/activists, forward thinking Progressives and those who support a plethora of issues. We used to make a difference. Only now I am not so sure anymore. They have invaded, spewed their hate and bigotry, their maglignant lies and propaganda and they disrupt threads/communities....and only a handful confront them on it....where is the solidarity????? I wish they would just go the **** away and leave all of us the hell alone. Yeah, I know, free speech and the whole none yards but dammit....they have their own groups here, why don't they stick to them and stay out of ours?

Wednesday August 8, 2012, 7:43 am
Romney is incapable of telling the truth or caring even one iota about anyone but himself.

Wednesday August 8, 2012, 10:07 am

I have already signed the petition. I think this is a much larger issue then just the voting rights of those with military ID. This is happening or has happened in many states. People should follow the links in the article and then look up the states that are or have restricted the right to vote. Why this is a partisan issue makes no sense. One does not know that a poor person or a person of color will vote for the democrat, no one can read their minds. Though in every state attempting to restrict voting rights, these are state laws that have the full intention of hoping to cause a tilted election in Romney's favor.

After passing these laws in Pennsylvania, one representative said on camera, "Now we have guaranteed the election of Romney in Pennsylvania."

If the vote is rigged what then does a vote mean? People from all parties should be outraged by this, if certain "elements" of the population can be so easily eliminated, what is to say that YOU will not be next?
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25 laws and 2 executive actions passed since the beginning of 2011 in 19 states (Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Maine, Mississippi, New Hampshire, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, West Virginia, Wisconsin).

16 states have passed restrictive voting laws that have the potential to impact the 2012 election (Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Mississippi, New Hampshire, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, Wisconsin, and West Virginia). These states account for 214 electoral votes, or nearly 79 percent of the total needed to win the presidency.

Of these, 14 laws and executive actions are currently in effect in 10 states (Florida, Georgia, Iowa, Illinois, Kansas, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Tennessee, West Virginia).

Analysis

•Identification laws (read a detailed summary of laws passed since the beginning of 2011)

•Photo ID laws. At least 34 states introduced legislation that would require voters to show photo identification in order to vote, and an additional four states introduced legislation requesting that voters show photo identification to register or to vote. Photo ID bills were signed into law in eight states — Alabama, Kansas, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania — and passed by referendum in Mississippi. In addition, Minnesota's legislature has passed a bill proposing a constitutional amendment to the Minnesota Constitution that would require government issued photo ID to vote in person. The amendment will be voted on by referendum at the 2012 general election. By contrast, before the 2011 legislative session, only two states had ever imposed strict photo ID requirements. The number of states with laws requiring voters to show government-issued photo identification quadrupled in 2011. To put this into context, 11 percent of American citizens do not possess a government-issued photo ID; that is over 21 million citizens.

•Voter ID laws. Virginia has passed a law changing its voter ID requirements by eliminating the option of executing an affidavit of identity when voting at the polls or applying for an absentee ballot in person, while expanding the list of acceptable IDs. New Hampshire’s new voter ID requirements require a voter to produce documentary ID or submit an affidavit of identity. After September 2013, a voter must produce a New Hampshire or US government photo ID or execute an affidavit of identity, no other form of identification will be accepted.

•Proof of citizenship laws. At least 17 states introduced legislation that would require proof of citizenship, such as a birth certificate, to register or vote. Proof of citizenship laws passed in Alabama, Kansas, and Tennessee. The Tennessee law, however, applies only to individuals flagged by state officials as potential non-citizens based on a database check. Previously, only two states had passed proof of citizenship laws, and only one had put such a requirement in effect. The number of states with such a require­ment has more than doubled.

•Making voter registration harder. At least 16 states introduced bills to end highly popular Election Day and same-day voter registration, limit voter registration mobilization efforts, and reduce other registration opportunities. Florida, Illinois and Texas passed laws restricting voter registration drives, and Florida and Wisconsin passed laws making it more difficult for people who move to stay registered and vote. Ohio ended its weeklong period of same-day voter registration, and the Maine legislature passed a law eliminating Election Day registration. Luckily, Maine voters later repealed the law. In addition, some opponents of the Minnesota constitutional amendment have argued that it has the possible effect of eliminating Election Day registration as it currently exists in that state. That amendment will be voted on by referendum at the 2012 general
election.

•Reducing early and absentee days. At least nine states introduced bills to reduce their early voting periods, and four tried to reduce absentee voting opportunities. Florida, Georgia, Ohio, Tennessee, and West Virginia succeeded in enacting bills reducing early voting.

http://www.brennancenter.org/content/resource/2012_summary_of_voting_law_changes/

Wednesday August 8, 2012, 10:15 am

If one believes that Romney or Obama is a liar, or more important is the better candidate then each person that wants to vote must have the right to vote. We are not, and never have been a country of one religion, one race or one set of ideas, we are country of broad, diverse race, religion and culture.

These new laws and ideas of who can vote and who will not be allowed to vote are the end of the most essential of our rights. What is next? Which religion YOU will be allowed? Which groups of people will be allowed free speech?

Wednesday August 8, 2012, 3:28 pm
I can't believe I let myself waste so much time on that 'other' post. It wasn't entirely a waste due to the efforts of Carrie, Kit, Marg, Jae and others, but I'm through attempting to communicate with such rigid mindsets. When you can hide behind the computer and spew, well.. I'd rather an atmosphere and a forum to share facts, experiences and perspective, but the delusional R-wing will have no part in that. Gawd! It's like a breathe of fresh air being here, even if the potential Liar-in-Chief and his agenda of suppression is our topic.

Jae, I'd agree if I thought that there was any point to confronting the T-party group here, but all we do is pump up their note and comment numbers attracting more of them. If there is an open mind among them, they'll find us. If they show up with their know-it-all attitudes to one of our discussions, shred 'em. But to visit the dens of evil stupidity, I'm done.

Geez, Kit, the potential for this frightening progression is quite real, our votes are our chance to pull out of this.

Wednesday August 8, 2012, 3:33 pm
I really do not like it when care2 tells me how many green stars you all receive!

Wednesday August 8, 2012, 4:11 pm
pig

Wednesday August 8, 2012, 5:32 pm
Thank you.

Wednesday August 8, 2012, 9:13 pm
Kudos to Carrie for posting this article! Many great comments! I think we all needed a good dose of reality after dealing with another member's post on the same subject . "Validating" misinformation with comments from blogs and personal opinions is a desperate attempt to sway opinions. Readers who believe the misinformation in such posts become "victims." Thankfully, there are people who are willing to risk personal insults and criticism in order to let the truth be known. Thank you to all!

Wednesday August 8, 2012, 11:03 pm
noted and signed. Thanks Carrie.

Thursday August 9, 2012, 6:05 am
"U.S. military veterans severely criticized Mitt Romney today for supporting laws limiting the right of residents to vote in states like Ohio and Pennsylvania, where Republican-controlled legislatures recently enacted new voting laws. In a press conference this morning, the veterans also took Romney to task for accusing President Obama of suppressing the vote of military veterans because the Obama campaign filed a lawsuit seeking to block an Ohio law that restricts a successful early voting program."

Here is another veteran who is on the same page. And it gets even worse. Last night on the Rachel Maddow show she explained how each of Ohio's 88 counties have an electoral board. Two democrats, two republicans. In ALL of the republican counties, all four agreed to allow early voting. In ALL of the democratic counties, the boards split 2-2 so the Secretary of State casts the deciding vote and in all of those instance so far, has sided with the republicans to not allow it, those counties are the largest, containing Cleveland for instance. Amazingly brazen attempt at targeted voter suppression in normally democratic counties. That will end up in court. And decided I hope before the election. They are shameless when it comes to suppressing the vote of the poor and elderly.

Thursday August 9, 2012, 6:14 am
Somewhat bogus and in need of a fact check. Obama administration trying to stop Ohio military personal from voting early. They know the military favors Romney by a wide margin. It could end up hurting Obama if he continues this law suit.

Obama is extremely anti-military retiree as proven by his actions and stated cuts. Just because a few Democrats who are vets have this opinion does not make it all military veterans as your headline falsely implies.

In fact a recent respected poll shows vets overwhelmingly against Obama.

Thursday August 9, 2012, 6:15 am
The above said, the PArefusal to accept militray ID- active or retired or dependent is a travesty!

Thursday August 9, 2012, 6:16 am
Finally, the guy in the photo is not holding a military ID.

Thursday August 9, 2012, 1:39 pm
What gets me are all the stupid and ignorant lemmings who continue to support the liars of the old and senile party of anti-American republicans/t-baggers.

Of course, these simple minded people are used to being lied to and have no idea what the truth is if it hit them squarely on their small heads!

Thursday August 9, 2012, 1:45 pm
GOOD to hear that the Military familie are AGAINST voter suppression!! ALL should be able to vote!! Obama-Biden 2012!!!

Thursday August 9, 2012, 3:00 pm
Good to read that the military can see Romney for what he is.

Thursday August 9, 2012, 3:15 pm
Mitt Robme is as greasy as his hair....we should be working for increased voting participation not suppression.....

Thursday August 9, 2012, 3:51 pm
there has NEVER been ANY evidence of any real voter fraud. The only real fraud is what the Teabagger party is trying to do by suppressing votes in order to win.

Thursday August 9, 2012, 3:55 pm
Well spoken Kit B., and I agree 100% but all too often those simple and basic truths falls upon the deaf ears and closed minds of angry paranoid, nationlalists that believe that certain rights are inheritable legacies that are the exclusive domain of a select few and not all citizens. I just flashed back to 9th grade and reading George Orwell's Animal Farm. A scary lesson in totalitarianism. Remember that quote from the book, "All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others." My blood pressure is already skyrocketing. Thanks Carrie.

Thursday August 9, 2012, 9:21 pm
John Gregoire you are a classic republinazi liar and stooge I served my country in vietnam before the best part of you was left on the bed you traitor crawl back in your hole

Friday August 10, 2012, 5:25 am
Dear Terrie Williams - it's OK to have the teabaggers here. They act like smelling salts to make us wake up and realize what we are up against. Otherwise we'd just be too comfortable and be unaware of how they really think and feel. After all, they are a danger not just to the country, but to the whole world because of their global warming denial. Furthermore, if they win the election, they will embolden other greedy billionaires to take over the country they live in.
In Australia, we have them too and it is frightening to watch how they take over. We have an organization called "Getup", which is quite effective in blocking some of thier efforts to take over and control us completely.
For this reason I believe that one must watch one's enemy.
My present policy is to always put them at ease and be nice to them Then possibly they will listen to at least something that I say.

Friday August 10, 2012, 8:01 am
I signed the petition. As for blasting Mitt, I wish we could blast him to the moon one way trip.

Friday August 10, 2012, 9:30 pm
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/786/050/497/romney-dont-restrict-veterans-voting-rights/
 
Romney, Don't Restrict Veterans' Voting Rights

Please sign my petition on this story. Thanks!

Tuesday August 21, 2012, 6:17 pm
John G. - "Somewhat bogus and in need of a fact check. Obama administration trying to stop Ohio military personal from voting early. "

Where is Obama trying to stop military personel (not personal) from voting? Did you bother reading the lawsuit. It mentions nothing regarding limiting the military's ability to vote in the three day period prior to the election as early voting, but to ban the GOP's legislation of allowing all citizens to vote in that period which they were allowed to do in 2008.