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Grover Norquist Losing Grip on Tax Views Among GOP


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: Fiscal cliff, higher taxes, 2%, government, ethics, congress, elections, republicans )

Carrie
- 599 days ago - omaha.com
The no-higher-taxes-ever pledge long promoted by activist Grover Norquist has proven popular among Nebraska and Iowa Republicans. But unlike Norquist, most of them told The World-Herald this week that they could support a broad budget agreement that...



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Roseann D. (178)
Thursday November 29, 2012, 3:13 pm
Fun watching the GOP in their death throes.
 

Barbara K. (87)
Thursday November 29, 2012, 3:23 pm
Too bad the knuckleheads had to be attached to this nitwit for so long. The only oath they were bound by is the oath of office to the American people.
 

Jennifer C. (172)
Thursday November 29, 2012, 4:49 pm
Noted. Thanks.
 

Jason S. (57)
Thursday November 29, 2012, 5:49 pm
Send him to the poor house, good posting, thanks
 

Kit B. (277)
Thursday November 29, 2012, 6:00 pm

Grover who? It seems that tight grip of power is always in the end, elusive. I'm sure he will use his well funded lobby to try to keep pressure on those who have seen a light in 2012, but he may quickly become nothing more than a footnote in history.
 

Dave C. (211)
Thursday November 29, 2012, 7:47 pm
yeah!
 

Judy C. (106)
Thursday November 29, 2012, 11:04 pm
This article comes from my hometown newspaper. I'm so tired of living in Republican Land!. This is good news, though. Norquist acts like a big, pouty baby, and I love it! Thanks Carrie.
 

Cynthia Davis (339)
Friday November 30, 2012, 3:51 am
It should be against the law to pledge anything to a lobbyist.
 

Carrie B. (300)
Friday November 30, 2012, 5:34 am
Lobbyists are the scum of the earth!
 

Pat A. (117)
Friday November 30, 2012, 5:48 am
Carrie - I tried to send you a green star for this article - but the computer wouldn't let me - sorry! Green star to Judy C though - and my condolences! Such a shame when good people are represented by Repuglicons!
 

Arielle S. (316)
Friday November 30, 2012, 9:09 am
Grover, Grover, it's all over..... and we don't care if you go away mad as long as you go away!
 

Judith Green (8)
Friday November 30, 2012, 10:07 am
Astonishing some are following the commands of this one man as if he were the high priest of a religion, listening to his interpretation of the pledge, getting his permission to violate it, etc.
 

Gene Jacobson (244)
Friday November 30, 2012, 10:19 am
"Norquist opposes tax increases of any kind, including eliminating deductions. He has insisted on unyielding positions from lawmakers and, for years, has held outsized sway in the Republican Party for someone outside of public office. His pledge doesn't allow any change to the tax code that adds even a dollar to revenues."

Oh, I think Grover lost his grip a long time ago, on reality. This self-appointed do nothing who has never produced a single piece of useful work (his opinions are not work, they're ideology) other than putting his ridiculous theories on paper for his entire "career" should command NO audience whatsoever. He is one man with opinions, great, then let him vote his conscience in his district and stay the bleep out of everyone else's. His opinions are worth no more than any person on the street, how he ever got to a spot where he could influence lawmakers to undercut their oath of office and pledge fealty to him rather than to the people of the United States is beyond me. So, too, I wish were he. I think we ought take up a collection and buy him a place in the Caymans, somewhere he can do nor further harm to our political processes. I just want this fool to go away. I'd be happy to never hear his name again. If he wants to influence policy then run for office, else shut up and sit down, its time for the grown ups to speak...
 

Chris C. (144)
Friday November 30, 2012, 11:02 am
It's quite entertaining to watch this idiot struggling to stave off his death throes! I still chuckle when I think of George HW Bush's comment... wanting to know who the heck is Grover Norquist? Pretty funny!
 

James Maynard (66)
Friday November 30, 2012, 11:07 am
Mr. Norquist needs to be in jail for fomenting treason
as well as anyone who signed his treasonous pledge.
 

Joanne Dixon (35)
Friday November 30, 2012, 12:47 pm
He has plenty of money to move his own self - and his family - to somewhere they would be more suited. Is Mrs. Norquist not from Palestine?
 

Past Member (0)
Friday November 30, 2012, 1:14 pm
The more people realize how bad fascism hurts them, the more they weaken.

He got this moronic idea when he was 12!!! He didn't even know the pledge was unconstitutional and treasonous! Yet, here he is, pushing a childish idea. The whole party has been insane!
 

Esther Z. (101)
Friday November 30, 2012, 2:24 pm
It's going to be a slow and painful death for Norquist, but I'm sure he's saved up a lot of special interest money to last him a lifetime.
 

Nelson Baker (0)
Friday November 30, 2012, 2:28 pm
The Republicans were stupid to let this a-hole gain so much control over them.
 

Past Member (0)
Friday November 30, 2012, 2:46 pm
Reagan/bush/rove too, Nelson.
 

Lois Jordan (55)
Friday November 30, 2012, 3:49 pm
I see the face of Grover in my mind....and, suddenly, poof! it disappears. This excuse-for-a-human-being has spent literally his entire life working on this...he's not going down quietly. As we continue to press our Congress critters to ignore his pledge, I expect his voice will continue to get louder, until one day it just implodes.
 

Mitchell D. (129)
Friday November 30, 2012, 5:50 pm
Well, Barbara K., I could not agree with you more.
In fact I have started a petition, on SignOn.org, that speaks to just that point.
The petition is called the "Stop the Grover Norquist "No Tax Increase Pledge.'" And it is based on the idea that congresspeople, indeed, take an oath of office, and therefor no other oath, or pledge ought to be asked of them. I see Norquist's pledge as unethical, perhaps it is also illegal, I do not know. But the thing is that anything like it it can tie a congress person's hands at some point, improperly.
Of course, he has to add, Newt the Gingrich is insisting that people honor their pledge. Ge, i wonder what can be his agenda?
 

Shirley B. (5)
Friday November 30, 2012, 7:18 pm
Mitchel D. I will sign that petition you started. He ought to be arrested and all those hopeless signers should be impeached for conflict of interest. Treason???
 

Lynn Squance (226)
Friday November 30, 2012, 8:22 pm
The oath of office --- “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion;…”

I do not see Norquist's pledge as a 'mental reservation' but rather as a moral and ethical failing --- his failing for proposing and pushing it; failing of the elected representatives who caved to this unelected thug lobbyist.

Further, the oath of office says '...defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;...' --- Anyone that would extort obedience to an immoral and unethical oath, is in my mind an enemy of the state and should be dealt with accordingly. The trouble is, how do you unseat someone who has burrowed his way so deeply into the government mechanics, and is so deeply supported by the monied oligarchy?

This is part of what I said on another related thread. But while some Republican/Teabaggers say they are willing to forgo their pledge, not all plans are equal.

From Omaha.com --- Rep. Lee Terry, R-Neb., signed Norquist's pledge but says now that he's open to a deal that includes some new tax revenues. Still, he said, the president needs to work across the aisle.

“He's not dealing with terrorists, he's dealing with Republicans who don't want to raise taxes,” Terry said.

Terry said Obama has an incentive to allow the country to go over the cliff and then blame Republicans.

“We're screwed either way,” Terry said. “We really have no leverage in these discussions.”

As I recall, Mr Obama started out his presidency trying to reach across the aisle but was met with no coöperation at all. Turtle McConnell vowed obstruction from day one. Every time he tried to reach across the aisle, he was met with antagonism, arrogance, and just plain pugilistic stupidity. He tried so often that Democrats, lawmakers and the general public, were getting on his case because he was trying but there was no reciprocal action.

How does one unelected person end up with so much control over elected officials? That must end. Would love to see Norquist in prison orange for the rest of his natural life, but I doubt that will happen. Norquist has subverted US democracy for long enough.

So now, a toughened up Mr Obama, is not going to take it laying down. He is going to take it to the opposition.

 

Carrie B. (300)
Saturday December 1, 2012, 1:30 pm
Mitchell, share the link to your petition.
 

Carrie B. (300)
Saturday December 1, 2012, 1:34 pm
Here is the link to Mitchell's petition. Stop The No Tax Increase Pledge
 

Carrie B. (300)
Saturday December 1, 2012, 8:56 pm
Yes Joanne, the Mrs. is a Palestinian Muslim. I'm sure they and and their money would be quite welcome and is much needed in Palestine.
 

Susanne R. (249)
Saturday December 1, 2012, 9:56 pm
It's too bad his grip lasted as long as it did. Petition signed. Thanks, Carrie!
 
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