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Aides: Obama 'Genuinely Conflicted' Between Rice and Kerry


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: Secretary of State, Obama, John Kerry, Susan Rice, government, politics, candidates, news )

Carrie
- 744 days ago - nationaljournal.com
President Obama is said to be "genuinely conflicted" about whether to nominate his favored candidate, U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice, or Sen. John Kerry as his next secretary of State, two aides said.



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Yvonne White (233)
Tuesday December 4, 2012, 8:14 pm
$crew both of them - I want Dennis Kucinich as Sec. of State!!
 

Kit B. (276)
Tuesday December 4, 2012, 8:30 pm

I think these choices are both limited. The president has other options, and Kerry is needed in the Senate.
 

Jason S. (57)
Tuesday December 4, 2012, 8:39 pm
Good posting, thanks
 

Jennifer C. (169)
Tuesday December 4, 2012, 8:46 pm
Thanks.
 

John B. (122)
Tuesday December 4, 2012, 9:29 pm
Thanks Carrie for the link to the article. I also am conflicted. Ms. rice is gaualified but her and her husband large in vestments in the oil and gas industries is a bi minus for her and if Kerry is appointed that leaves the Senate seat he hols in play and you can bet Scott Brown will go after that and I'm not so sure there is a strong enough Democrat to compete against him. I'm with Kit on this, President Obama has more options and they will be just a capable and qualified. Read and noted.
 

Shelly Peterson (213)
Tuesday December 4, 2012, 10:20 pm
I agree with everyone's comment....but , the Sec of State is as important as the Presidential race............this is 2012!!! The World is volitile, as WE all know...and this is "5th dimensional Chess on an International Basis", and all players are every Government in the World!!!...and ALL are players!!..donot kid yourself!!!
(this is NOT the "wanna- be" poker game...THIS IS ALL OF OUR LIVES!)...RICE, NEEDS TO divest AND SHOW LEADERSHIP FOR 2012!!!......tar sands , fracking and big oil irresponsability, are now equal to the irresponsability of the basic fact WE/ANYONE cannot contain nuclear waste..and it is killing all of us, no matter where you live!!!!!!!!!!...........WE NEED LEADERSHIP WITH DEPLOMACY!!..WE HAVE IT IN OUR PRESIDENT, ..PRESIDENT OBAMA (had to clarifiy that for the GOP!).....NOW, WE NEED IT IN THE REST..ESPECIALLY SEC. OF STATE!!!!!!!!!!!!We need someone that the rest of the World can respect, and that WE DO!!!!
 

Diane O. (167)
Wednesday December 5, 2012, 3:07 am
"Genuinely conflicted?" All we have to do is look back over the past four years to see that Obama has consistently made bad choices. He has appointed tax evaders, liars, and ivy league incompetents. It doesn't surprise me that he is having difficulty deciding between two "no loads."
 

Elizabeth M. (68)
Wednesday December 5, 2012, 11:54 am
Thanks for this post Carrie. Wouldn't want to be in Obama's shoes!
 

Chris C. (151)
Wednesday December 5, 2012, 12:36 pm
Obama has many options. I'm sure he will make his usual GREAT choice! Although Kerry would be great...we need him in the Senate.
 

Diane O. (167)
Wednesday December 5, 2012, 2:35 pm
But, but, but....the liberals HATE rich people. Rice and Kerry are enormously wealthy. Kerry's money comes from his wife. You have to hate that, too. But, wait, they are democrats....so they get a pass.
 

Allan Yorkowitz (448)
Wednesday December 5, 2012, 3:33 pm
John Kerry - the man who had to confront his own demons, accusations, and out and out lies during his stint in Vietnam? What can he bring to the table?
I will not suggest names, but can't this President find a person who has experience in diplomacy, knows how to talk to the Middle East, and can look and sound like a representative for America? Obama is too busy trying to sell people he owes favors to (in the case of Rice).
Colin Powell supported Obama - how far will he give his support? In name only? He would make a fantastic Sec. of State.
 

Alana H. (0)
Wednesday December 5, 2012, 3:37 pm
Thank goodness it is President Obama and not his mindless predecessor making the decision. At least we will know it was his thoughtful choice and not a Cheney sychophant pushed to the fore.
 

Carrie B. (315)
Wednesday December 5, 2012, 3:46 pm
I agree with Kit and John B. Unless Rice dumps her "nasty" investments, she should be out and Kerry is needed in the senate.
 

Thomas P. (468)
Wednesday December 5, 2012, 3:46 pm
Noted...thanks Carrie. John Kerry belongs in the Senate. Diane O....liberals don't "hate" rich people....you are equating hate with wanting them to more in income taxes...and fair wages. Why would anyone hate someone whose wealth comes from his wife? What does that have anything to do with whether someone is likable or not? Mitt Romney's money didn't come from his wife....and he wasn't very likable. If not Susan Rice, I wouldn't mind Richard Lugar. He's well qualified, would sail through confirmation, and drive a sharp knife through teabaggers
 

Diane O. (167)
Wednesday December 5, 2012, 3:58 pm
Well, Allan, we know why Colin Powell supports Obama. That's clear. Powell is a four star general and he is supporting an anti-American president. Personally, I don't believe Colin Powell would make an excellent anything. He did not have a stellar military career (do the research) and was pushed ahead because that's what they did back in the day and it wasn't based on performance.

John Kerry is a loser. He has proven that to America. But, hey, let Obama put Kerry in as Secretary of State....who cares? Our foreign policy has been in the toilet since 2008. Let Kerry take it down to the bottom and we'll see more terrorist attacks on the US. Give them what they want. Give them the necessary rope.

Allan, did you hear what was coming out of Chicago today? The black community wants Obama to bring "home the bacon to help his people" in Chicago. They voted for him. Now they want to be repaid. Priceless, isn't it? This, of course, at the taxpayer's expense. You have the blue state of Illinois in dire straights financially because their governor has done a poor job and they are now calling in the chips on Obama because they supported him...to...get this "bring home the bacon." This is what Obama has brought to our country. My position is to let Obama have an uncluttered path to his own destruction. Raise taxes...spend the revenue on worthless projects instead of paying down the debt in fact adding over $1.2 trillion to the debt, let medicare and medicaid go over the top in fraud and abuse over the next four years, ObamaCare raise premiums on all Americans and the republicans can sit back and watch the third and fourth credit downgrade in our country....all directly related to Obama's incompetence. Bad for America? Yes. However, it will be necessary to get the republicans back in 2016. Let Obama have his way. But watch unemployment sky rocket once taxes are raised on the rich. They will shut down faster than a speeding bullet and spend another four more years not hiring and growing their businesses. The large corporations will continue to build up the largest reserve of cash in history....sitting, waiting and watching. Meanwhile, America will slowly come apart at the seams. Our country will need a major rescue in 2016.

I'm of the firm belief that we should let Obama have his way. Our country needs to experience eight years of no growth and high unemployment and additional massive debt to understand why Obama never should've been elected in 2008.

I call it "Jimmy Carter Redux."
 

Roseann d. (178)
Wednesday December 5, 2012, 4:16 pm
That's inaccurate Diane, liberals don't hate rich people. We despise rich freeloaders who do not want to pay their fair share in taxes. In fact, many rich liberals are all for raising the tax rates on themselves.
 

Diane O. (167)
Wednesday December 5, 2012, 4:23 pm
It's accurate, Roseann. Read through your own threads and your own comments. Rich freeloaders? Who might they be? We have a tax law in place that gives the American people loopholes....we give it to the middle class and we give loopholes to the poor who end up paying no tax at all. The mortgage interest rate deduction is used by all of the large blue states....people like us. I say get rid of all of the loopholes on every level of income and go for a flat tax where every single American who is working pays taxes....no more loopholes for those earning over $250,000 and those earning $30,000 a year. Make it fair and make it so that every single American has some skin in the game paying their fair share of taxes.

I believe the liberals hate rich Americans for all the wrong reasons. But that's okay....let's sit back and watch how Obama's policies will take our country to the brink of no growth for eight straight years. You voted for him. So, now, let's open the Obama gate and sit back and watch how it works.

You do know, Roseann, that raising taxes on the rich will directly impact high unemployment? No? Well, let's just sit back and watch how it unfolds over the next four years.
 

Carrie B. (315)
Wednesday December 5, 2012, 4:35 pm
Careful Diane, your racism is showing again.
 

Susanne R. (249)
Wednesday December 5, 2012, 10:03 pm
Diane: You don't believe Colin Powell would make an excellent anything? Well, you and your opinion are part of a very small minority.

According to the Washington Post: "As national security adviser to one president and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under two more, Powell had helped guide the nation through the end of the Cold War and had brought the military to victory in the Persian Gulf War. By the time he retired from the Army as a four-star general in 1993, he was a national icon of wise leadership -- the "most trusted man in America," according to polls."

His problems began with George Bush, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld --who happen to be three of several Bush administration criminals who should have been tried for treason. Whether Powell resigned as Bush's Secretary of State at Bush's request or did so because he felt as though he had compromised his integrity, or both, he proved himself the better man when he did so.

Allan, with regard to your questioning John Kerry's character during his service in Vietnam, I offer you this quote from John McCain who was responding to the swiftboaters' accusations: "McCain : I think the ad is dishonest and dishonorable. As it is none of these individuals served on the boat (Kerry) commanded. Many of his crewmates have testified to his courage under fire. I think John Kerry served honorably in Vietnam." You also mentioned that Colin Powell would make a great Secretary of State for President Obama. I agree. That job didn't work too well for him when he served in that title for George Bush, but two men with high levels of integrity working together would be a big plus for this country.

Diane, perhaps you should sit down, relax and refrain from any further comment tonight. Your racism and resentment are truly upsetting. Personal wealth, and anyone or anything that might affect it, appears to be a very important and sensitive subject for you, but you shouldn't let it affect your many other roles in life. There are so many things that are so much more important than money...
 

Roseann d. (178)
Thursday December 6, 2012, 12:54 am
Diane, you are opinionated by that does not make your statements accurate. As I said, I am not referring to all rich people as rich freeloaders, only the ones that using job creation as an excuse to continue mooching off the middle class and the poor, and using that money to buy SuperPac ads, etc. Heck even sime fiscal Republicans now want to pay higher rates, even Reagan did, and Reagan's advisers are recommending higher rates on the wealthy. The rich have bought their party and they've served them well so far. We see where GOP loyalties are and they've exposed who their corporate and elite masters are. History repeats itself
and we know as with every other gilded age, it will not end well for the rich freeloaders.
 

Diane O. (167)
Thursday December 6, 2012, 2:32 am
Susanne, I don't have a racist bone in my body. I judge people equally based on their performance. I don't give anyone a pass or a downgrade because of their skin color. I'm way beyond my years when it comes to judging solely on the color of someone's skin. I believe we are all equal and open to criticism if we deserve it. If I were any more relaxed I'd be in a coma. But, thank you anyway.

I supported George Bush and Dick Cheney.

And, again, Roseann, the rich freeloaders? How so? They pay their taxes and they follow the tax laws. Don't like the tax laws? That's another story but while it is legal to take advantage of loopholes no one is breaking the law.
 

Diane O. (167)
Thursday December 6, 2012, 4:02 am
And Ooops...meant to say Detroit up there not Chicago. Had two things going at once there...I stand corrected. However, the story is the same.
 

Lois Jordan (58)
Friday December 7, 2012, 5:00 pm
Well, if Rice can divest from her accounts, that would be fine. But, Kerry needs to stay in the Senate. I like Yvonne's suggestion of Kucinich. Gee, bring back Al Gore or Jimmy Carter.....wonder if they'd accept the job.
 
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