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Here's Florida's Next Trayvon Martin Case


Society & Culture  (tags: crime, justice, race, politics, guns, Florida, Stand Your Ground Law, sadness, safety, society, death, murder, children )

Carrie
- 405 days ago - motherjones.com
A white man named Michael Dunn shot and killed an unarmed black teenager named Jordan Davis in Florida last year after a brief dispute. But there were several eyewitnesses to the Davis killing, including his three friends who survived.



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JL A. (275)
Wednesday July 17, 2013, 12:49 pm
Should be an even clearer case...need to watch to see what happens for sure.
 

Joanne Dixon (38)
Wednesday July 17, 2013, 2:16 pm
We will be watching.
 

Kit B. (277)
Wednesday July 17, 2013, 6:17 pm

I don't see how this could be stretched to "stand your ground". Of course it is Florida, and they really seem to want to be known as the most racist of the fifty states.

I really hope that this jury will send a very strong message that shooting young people is not the definition of self defense.
 

JL A. (275)
Wednesday July 17, 2013, 6:24 pm
You cannot currently send a star to Kit because you have done so within the last day.
 

Carrie B. (309)
Wednesday July 17, 2013, 6:55 pm
As you said Kit "It is Florida".
 

Jason S. (57)
Wednesday July 17, 2013, 7:03 pm
Good posting, thanks
 

Jaime A. (32)
Wednesday July 17, 2013, 11:53 pm
Noted.
 

Trina Hawkins (24)
Thursday July 18, 2013, 12:13 am
Noted ! WOW,here we go again ! How many young people have to DIE for this STUPID Law ? Enough already ! These Idiots go around shooting these kids for No reason whatsoever! It's MURDER ,plain and simple ! When will it STOP ? Florida SUCKS !! :(
 

Elisa F. (234)
Thursday July 18, 2013, 12:39 am
Noted. Read this in the newspaper this morning and thought, " WOW!" I see as I'm writing this, Trina had the same idea. Thanks, Carrie.
 

Carol H. (229)
Thursday July 18, 2013, 3:07 am
Florida is sure making a name for itself. it started with Casey Anthony walking free
 

Aaron Bouchard (127)
Thursday July 18, 2013, 7:33 am
noted thanks
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday July 18, 2013, 9:51 am
idiots with guns roaming the streets must be stopped
 

Nancy L. (139)
Thursday July 18, 2013, 12:44 pm
This was last year and rightly so the man was arrested and I'm sure will be convicted.
 

Birgit W. (144)
Thursday July 18, 2013, 1:59 pm
This is the reason why people should not have a gun. Period.
 

Deb E. (64)
Thursday July 18, 2013, 2:34 pm
From the article ... "It's apparent that Michael Dunn is white, it's apparent that Jordan is black," McBath said. "But the issue is the Stand Your Ground laws. The issue is not the racial part of it. We're not going to center and focus on that, because that doesn't do any good for the country. We're not going to incite racism in this country. The bigger picture is making a change in the laws so that…this doesn't continue to happen."

The laws in Florida are why these things keep happening. The confrontations wouldn't happen if people didn't feel all powered up because they were carrying a gun. In this case, if the guy didn't like the music, move his car ... for Zimmerman ... you called the police, now get the heck out of there. But because they are allowed to be armed and to use "self defense" as a reason for shooting and not having to pay any consequences for being confrontational, these kinds of things will keep happening. It doesn't matter what the skin color is because there are blacks killing blacks and whites killing whites all the time, too. They just don't make the news because they wouldn't stir up the racial pot. Change the gun laws.
 

Jude Hand (59)
Thursday July 18, 2013, 2:58 pm
Noted. Thank you, Carrie, for putting this in. I've been discussing the case since it happened, being so close (in FL) to the Trayvon Martin murder (I refuse to ;mince words on that one). I see that I was off on a couple of points, so it was good to be corrected. Very interesting that Ms Corey, who didn't 'play well' in her post-Zimmerman case press conference, is also having these other problems. Having lived in FL for 25 years, I think the only thing that may help is the national eye on Florida's Stand Your Ground law and the Zimmerman case.
 

Phyllis Baxter (39)
Thursday July 18, 2013, 5:10 pm
Ever since the OJ case race has had a warping effect on justice in the USA. I have lived in the USA and been threatened and racial abused countless times by groups of young black men when I was there. That's what young men do when they aimlessly hang out in groups- to keep excusing bad behaviour and attitudes on account of race is not helpful and is making matters worse.
 

Betty Kelly (2)
Thursday July 18, 2013, 10:00 pm
Murder should not be the penalty for rudeness.
 

Debra Tate (17)
Friday July 19, 2013, 10:56 am
Noted
 

Avril Lomas (0)
Friday July 19, 2013, 2:29 pm
The ultimate comment re. Zimmerman case etc.commentary from the B.B.C. . the morning after the judgement.
With the "Stand your ground rule.America has regressed back to the days of the WILD WEST
Says it all. .
 

Lois Jordan (55)
Friday July 19, 2013, 5:48 pm
Thanks, Carrie. Will this never end? Avril (above) hit on a strong point that really resonates with me. The Brits believe we here in the US are just so backwards. I believe I read that there were "only" about a dozen murders by gun in the U.K. last year because they outlawed guns. (Compare that to the hundreds here). The same is true with similar laws in other countries. What is wrong with us here? Could it be the media ramping up the conversation every time we turn around? Is it because so many are given "air-time" to angrily vent their trite comments about the 2nd amendment?....and so often without anyone taking them to task on their ridiculous comments? Time for some huge changes to take place in America...or I'm afraid we are going to see battlegrounds much like what happened in the 60's.
 

jess b (24)
Sunday July 21, 2013, 8:16 pm
The Brits are right, Lois.
The sociological/historical and bizarre justifications/rationales for things sometimes makes a person think, there is a brick wall somewhere.
maybe it's denial, denial perpetuated by the money aspirations and greed of too many; the hard working underclass got more and more impoverished, as they worked harder and harder. The country as a whole left the children behind, while parents did their best to meet the demands of the work force. Communities disappeared behind façades of "diversity".
People need to see that society has to have decent labor laws, and minimum 3 week annual leave.
People must have time for themselves, and families, and employment that does not forfeit their lives to the extent that society, as a whole, suffers. The woes and troubles of a society, are directly linked to the economic situation, and how workers are treated, and the health of the economy.
The U.S. did have it's good times, but "common sense" thinking and solving problems has been out the window for a long time, as some have just made things cushy for themselves at the expense of others.
Reasoned thought is out the window.
It makes me think, right now, of the Who, and their album "The Wall".
HEY, leave the kids alone!!!
 
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