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House Republican Claims Reagan Would Never Do Exactly What He Did on Chemical Weapons


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: republicans, Reagan, Obama, dishonesty, genocide, Syria, Iraq, lies, government, ethics, politics, propaganda )

Carrie
- 381 days ago - rawstory.com
In a Thursday appearance on Fox News, U.S. Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-FL) invoked a familiar Republican trope by saying that the United States would never be in the situation it finds itself in regarding Syria if Ronald Reagan was the current U.S. ...



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Roseann D. (178)
Thursday September 5, 2013, 2:18 pm
LOL! Sounds like she's channeling unCaring 2er Diane O... Deflect, ignore or revise history and the cold hard facts, throw up roadblocks, change the subject, and just general blowhard nonsense and smoke and mirrors with no basis in reality as usual.

 

Roseann D. (178)
Thursday September 5, 2013, 2:39 pm
Snort! She says we have to think like Reagan...apparently She is...because she seems to have contracted Alzheimers on how Reagan did not intervene in the same situation.
 

Jonathan Smithsonian (4)
Thursday September 5, 2013, 2:44 pm
noted
 

Kelly Rogers (303)
Thursday September 5, 2013, 3:19 pm
Of course he would not do the same. He was to busy putting the Mentally Ill and the Physically Challenged out on the street. Actually, it is still happening today. One of the BIGGEST Social Security frauds today BECAUSE OF HIM are known as Board and Cares(which DO NOT). They are drug infested werehouses for the Mentally Ill.
 

Roger Skinner (14)
Thursday September 5, 2013, 4:50 pm
Republicans give lip service to worshiping Reagan, but he wouldn't stand a chance of being nominated for President by them nowadays.
 

Susanne R. (249)
Thursday September 5, 2013, 11:24 pm
From the article: "The Reagan administration also stood by and did nothing during the Al-Anfal campaign, the chemical raids Hussein launched against the Kurdish north in 1989. More than 100,000 men, women and children died in a campaign that Human Rights Watch now calls a “genocide.”

I remember very clearly when this happened. I subscribed to Time Magazine at the time and remember seeing very graphic photos of dead women lying along dirt roads, holding their dead children, with tortured looks on their faces indicating that they had died an agonizing death. The photos brought tears to my eyes, and I wondered why no one was helping these people.

I don't understand this "Reagan" worship. Before he became president, he was a film actor who played "second banana" to a monkey named Bonzo. Personally, I thought he did his best acting after he became a politician. He was MIA during a good part of his second term as president because he was exhibiting signs of dementia. His wife sought political and logistical advice from astrologists. Here's an interesting article from NBC News:

The Reagans and Astrology

NBC News, reported by Andrea Mitchell, 1989

Intelligence officials say the CIA went nuts when it learned the First Lady was discussing US-Soviet relations with an outsider [Joan Quigley] on non-secure lines. Some White House officials were also horrified that presidential security was being breached. And, according to former White House officials and Quigley, the astrologer was involved in everything. She picked the departure time for the Reykjavik Summit, the optimum time for signing an arms control treaty, the best time for the trip to Moscow. And, when Mrs. Reagan was upset about a controversial trip to Germany in 1985, Quigley plotted every takeoff and landing. Her scheduling for that visit to the Bitburg cemetery was so complicated that former White House aide Michael Deaver sought permission from Mrs. Reagan to talk to the astrologer directly.

The President knew what was going on. Deaver told NBC News that if Mrs. Reagan wanted a schedule change, she would say, "I told Ronnie and that's what Joan recommends...." Former aides say Ronald Reagan was a man who read his horoscope and the "funnies" before the rest of the paper. They say he wasn't only indulging his wife--that the former president also believed in astrology."

He was a charming and likeable man, but I never did understand the hero worship.
 

. (0)
Friday September 6, 2013, 7:19 am
That's good to know. Thanks for sharing, Carrie.
 

Gene Jacobson (252)
Friday September 6, 2013, 7:30 am
"Ironically, as pointed out by Think Progress, the historical record shows that when then-ally Saddam Hussein used chemical weapons against Iranians and Iraqi Kurds, Reagan and his advisors turned a blind eye, which is exactly what Ros-Lehtinen claims the former president would never have countenanced."

It is amazing to me that the republican party has not had a new idea since Reagan. And they now oppose policies he used, pardon the phrase, liberally. Keynesian economics, the bully pulpit rather than actual boots on the ground everywhere. It is of little surprise that a party that has not had a new idea in, well, I suppose it is nearly a century now, would be mired in its own cement shoes. Struggling mightily to return the country to the 19th century in terms of human rights, women's rights, worker's rights and trying to make the country into the Christian Taliban does not constitute new ideas. Yearning for a regressive past is all the gop has to offer and it is never going to happen nor will it keep them the numbers they have in Congress and around the country now. The country now knows they wish to go backwards, and the people, a solid majority do not want that at all. That all they have to fall back on is "Reagan would or wouldn't" is just sad, though I'm not surprised they don't see that. After all, they are taking their marching orders, or think they are, from a book that is more than 2000 years old. They are hardly the party of the future with the Old Testament as their road map...
 

Susanne R. (249)
Friday September 6, 2013, 8:52 am
Well said, as usual, Gene!
 

Michael Kirkby (85)
Friday September 6, 2013, 11:00 am
Reagan was the father of austerity economics in America. Its creator Milton Friedman never forgave Ronnie Raygun because he didn't Pinochet America. Frankly I don't see what all the fuss is about the man. He was a second rate actor at best and morally and ethically bankrupt in his personal life as are many politicians.
They say that history is written by the victors and this has been the case with RR. That is until many years later some person gets going and reveal the facts. We've already dispelled the myth about Lincoln so why should RR be any different. I am not in agreement with Barky but I certainly am not in agreement with the NeoCons who want to rush in with all guns blazing, hallelujah in the name of our god and all that BS.
 

Avril Lomas (0)
Friday September 6, 2013, 1:24 pm
The poor misled creature ahould go back and study the facts, re. Reagan,s duplicity.
He was fully aware of Hussien,s inventory and use of chemical weapons.(see photo of Rumsfeld shaking hands with that evil man.)Reagan was NO sainted being, just a lousy actor whose machinations are well known and documented,It would appear, however, that Republicans all suffer from chronic amnesia!.
 

Robert K. (31)
Friday September 6, 2013, 2:14 pm
What else would you expect? The Republicans who aren't too stupid to see the light or too ignorant to believe the facts are too hypocritical to speak the truth.

There is no rational reason to vote Republican, nor any reason to believe anything they do. The Republican party needs to follow their own healthcare message, "don't get sick, if you die quickly." They have been terminally ill since Reagan bribed the Iran hostage holders to hold them until after the election. Now they need to die, permanently and reinvent themselves into a number of honestly labeled parties, such as the Racist Party, the Know Nothing #2 Party, the I Hate Everyone Except My Bribers Party, I Hate Truth Party, etc. They could run under an umbrella designation of GIP, rather than GOP, although you would be hard pressed to find anything grand about them, but Grand Ignoramus Party does have a ring of truth about it.

You know how former smokers are about those too weak to quit smoking? That's how I am about my former party since it ran full speed off the rails and abandoned everything good and decent about it.
 

Robert K. (31)
Friday September 6, 2013, 2:22 pm
You bet, Gene, the last Republican with new ideas was Teddy Roosevelt and they ran him out of the party. I would also say that Eisenhower was a decent man and overall not a bad president, although what most people don't seem to realize is that he was the one who committed us to Viet Nam, organized the Bay of Pigs and was responsible for the rise of Castro and not recognizing his government which should have been done and which would have kept Cuba on our side. Castro was the obvious repair for the Mafia owned and run Cuba and without our enmity would have been a good ally, Communist or not.

He was also responsible for Foster Dulles, probably the worst possible choice for CIA director and who remains responsible to this day for their out of control crimes.

But he recognized that the common people were more important than corporations and fought for us.
 

Dave C. (214)
Friday September 6, 2013, 2:25 pm
its amazing how "perfect" Ronnie was.....then you realize that almost everything any Republican politician says is of course a lie or exaggeration.....
 

Robert K. (31)
Friday September 6, 2013, 2:26 pm
Avril, Reagan was certainly aware of the chemical weapons, Reagan was the one who sold them to Iraq.
 

Mitchell D. (131)
Friday September 6, 2013, 6:24 pm
A FLORIDA Republican calls on the legacy of Saint Reagan? I'm surprised that she has not claimed, or did I miss it, that when the long awaited Rapture happens, Ronny will be personally holding open the gates of Heaven!
These people must live for no other purposes, but to make money for themselves...and re-write history.
 

Mitchell D. (131)
Friday September 6, 2013, 6:33 pm
Thank you,Robert K..
Kelly, you are so right about Reagan and the mentally ill: he took one of the best mental health systems in the country, and demolished it. that may have been his first move towards re-distibuting the country's wealth upwards, even before becoming president.
No, he'd not be nominated now, he'd be seen as too moderate, not crazy enough.
 

Mitchell D. (131)
Friday September 6, 2013, 6:39 pm
Suzzane, the hero worship has been, I believe, directly tied to that re-distribution of the wealth upwards. His Motto, in the first of his Pres. elections, was "You can have it all!" in response to the idea that the country ought to think in terms of "less is more." And then he arranged for the flow of wealth upwards. His entire "Trickle Down Economy," and "Supply Side Economics" was/were euphemisms for "Let's give more to the wealthy, while the rest of you suckers wait to see whether or not something falls through the floor boards for you to scramble over."
 

Carrie B. (305)
Friday September 6, 2013, 7:15 pm
Some of you may have heard this story before ~ but for those who have not ~ When my mother was a very young woman and Ronald Reagan had only heard of Hollywood, my mother dated him. When he became president I asked her about it because I had heard the story about her Hollywood boyfriend from the time I was a very little girl. Her words to me ~ "He was an SOB then and he's an SOB now!" She was right.
 

Dale O. (190)
Saturday September 7, 2013, 12:02 am
"Snort?" Intriguing. Republicans have ethics? Rofl! Just what do republicans 'snort" Roseann D? Teabags and the usual no compassion. They just sell the stuff to their favourite dictators when they are in power.
So very true Suzanne R.
Mothers are filled with wisdom Carrie B!
 

Dale O. (190)
Saturday September 7, 2013, 12:02 am
Republicans are filled with something...but it isn't wisdom.
 
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