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This Is How The Right Wins Every Policy Debate - The 'Liberal' Media Lets Them Cheat

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Recently, Chris Hayes opened a segment about raising the minimum wage by explaining that the GOP does not want to discuss it at all because as far as they're concerned, just having one in the first place is a concession on their part.

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Carrie B (306)
Tuesday July 1, 2014, 2:00 pm

Recently, Chris Hayes opened a segment about raising the minimum wage by explaining that the GOP does not want to discuss it at all because as far as they’re concerned, just having one in the first place is a concession on their part. Be thankful to your corporate overlords you filthy peons!

This embrace of the fringe as policy is how the right retards progress in this country: They take the most extreme position possible and these radical ideas are given the same consideration as the center-left. In other words, the craziest, most insane fringe beliefs of the right are draped in a cloak of respectability that would never be granted to the far left.
nd who gives the right wing this unearned influence? The “liberal” media.

The “liberal” media made a choice a long time ago that pretty much every position taken by the left, no matter how centrist or, indeed, even conservative, is equally as extreme as whatever pure insanity the right comes up with. This is how we end up with the following:

Allowing a woman to have an abortion before the third trimester and access to contraceptives is simply the other side of declaring a fertilized egg to be a person and banning all hormonal contraceptives.
Allowing two people of the same sex to be married in any church willing to accept them is just as radical as claiming that marriage equality is an outrageous assault on religious freedom and will lead to man on dog marriage, incest and pedophilia.
Obamacare is a wild liberal take over of the health system and no one ever discusses the fact that the program was literally created by conservatives and pushed by the GOP twenty years ago.
Keeping guns out of the hands of known criminals, the mentally disturbed and terrorists is just as fringe as making sure anyone can have a gun anywhere at anytime including in preschools, churches and bars.
The disparity between what the “liberal” media considers “extreme” for both sides is impossible to deny when you line them up next to each other. The left has to spend so much effort just to maintain what little the right oh-so-graciously grants us that moving the country to even the middle requires herculean effort. With a complicit corporate media that more than happily rigs the debate by crying “It’s not our job to fact check, just to present both sides of the argument!”, it’s a wonder we make any progress at all.

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Elle B (84)
Tuesday July 1, 2014, 5:05 pm
Ty Carrie ... the fruit of an underlying political co-dependency syndrome. . . product of an encompassing collective psychological addiction and resulting desire for "constant competition" in all activities performed and imagined. . . it permeates societal constructs and environments of so-called civilization. . . competition DOES NOT and CANNOT produce the best results. . .whoever came up with that proverbial hoopla...had acute neuron deficiencies. . .it's a crock of stupid crappe always brewing. . .this media behavior is an example of what continually bubbles up out of it. . .

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Lois Jordan (63)
Tuesday July 1, 2014, 7:15 pm
Noted. Well, despite the media, Congress is still doing nothing meaningful to help their taxpaying constituents. Help Corporations? Help Wall St?....sure! Try and amp up the media for another trip to Iraq?....absolutely. It's up to all of us to keep spreading facts and information to family & friends who are unaware of what's beneath the surface.

Elle B (84)
Tuesday July 1, 2014, 7:21 pm
"In countries such as ours, the principal threat to freedom of expression comes not from government but from within the media. Censorship, in most cases, happens in the newsroom."

"As the journalist Hannen Swaffer remarked long ago: 'Freedom of the press ... is freedom to print such of the proprietor's prejudices as the advertisers don't object to.' Yes, let's fight censorship: of the press and by the press." ―- George Monbiot, Monday, June 30, 2014


TomCat S (129)
Tuesday July 1, 2014, 11:30 pm
Sadly US media provide fact and fantasy equal authority, except Faux Noise where fact has no authority and fantasy is absolute.

Joanne Dixon (38)
Wednesday July 2, 2014, 4:42 am
You would think that common sense would tell people that it is impossible for the media to be "liberal" when ALL the media are owned by wealthy right wing corporatists to whom they must answer. Oh, wait - common sense - never mind.

Kathleen M (224)
Wednesday July 2, 2014, 6:03 am
Sadly noted. Thanks, Carrie.

Arielle S (313)
Wednesday July 2, 2014, 7:11 am
Yes, the media shares much of the blame for the state of our country - but then, it''s all owned by those who are responsible for the state of our country. We no longer get news, we get opinion, blather, nonsense, and bits and pieces that tell no story at all. Then there is the general public - who really doesn't WANT to know because then they'd have to actually DO something. As Rachel Maddow said it's not about Democrats vs Republicans - it's about people who care and people who don't.

Past Member (0)
Wednesday July 2, 2014, 8:07 am
He works for MSNBC, it is a station that really has given up on reporting news in place of opinion television, would you expect anything less?

Jason R (67)
Wednesday July 2, 2014, 9:33 am
Wrong, John. MSNBC is a refuge for investigative journalism. Fox is a fascist tool of the super wealthy that pay their shills way more to get out the corporate propaganda.

How did you get that way? Fox!!!

Lady S (446)
Wednesday July 2, 2014, 10:04 am
Try the comment section at places like Politico.

It's fascinating how many posters end their posts with "You lose" or "I win".

No, I don't really have respect for anyone, liberal, conservative, Independent, alien, or whatever that basically puts their fingers in their ears and goes "la la la I'm not listening."

Lona G (80)
Wednesday July 2, 2014, 10:18 am
The liberals and progressives have to keep the debate going even though the right says they're not debating. The do take a stance and because they're moving even further to the right and getting more ridiculously extreme and outrageous when they go over board. There is an end to what is acceptable, even coming from the right. Most people are somewhere in the middle and although this middle has moved to the right, the rate the Tea Party is going, the fringe will go over the cliff soon. It'll take tenacity and patience and the Left will have to know when it's time too cut loose givie the TP their last push and restore balance.

Thomas B (1)
Wednesday July 2, 2014, 10:23 am
Where do you think all that political campaign money is spent?


Heidi Aubrey (4)
Wednesday July 2, 2014, 11:14 am

Its Easy. Scare tactics. Almost always about jobs being lost.. Then of course we ALL have the right to bear arms. "Be glad we are not including Bazookas" type mentality.

It is ALWAYS about how whatever policy will cause the lost of jobs or you will have to pay more for whatever.

An outrageous amount more. Monsanto used both of these to defeat the GMO labeling in California. Groceries would a minimum of 34% and half or more, of the states' farmers will be put out of jobs).

Grip the people/voters with fear and demonizing the "enemy" to the hilt.

Joanne Dixon (38)
Wednesday July 2, 2014, 2:04 pm
You would think simple common sense would tell people that there could not possibly be such a thing as liberal media, since ALL media is owned by rich corporatists and must answer to their owners. Oh - wait - common sense - never mind - I lost my head.

Alexandra Rodda (180)
Wednesday July 2, 2014, 2:11 pm
One would think that this general attitude is sufficient to unbalance the scales of power. However the corporatists are not happy with this alone. Now, in Australia, evidence is emerging that Rupert Murdoch ordered his media to "Kill Whitlam!", and they did. Whitlam,. who was the 21st Prime Minister, was dismissed by the governor in 1975.

Ken O (55)
Wednesday July 2, 2014, 2:49 pm
Sorry folks, there is no "liberal" media. It's a phoney assignation. The CIA took over the media just after WWII when there were hundreds of privately owned media outlets, radio, television and print. They were all bought up by 4 or 5 major corporations as we have today. The CIA operation was called "Operation Mockingbird" and controlled literally "any journalist of any importance" in the US media and most of Europe. Do your research. Any "news" that we get is vetted by the CIA or the NSA.

Birgit W (160)
Wednesday July 2, 2014, 3:23 pm

Wayne W (12)
Wednesday July 2, 2014, 4:09 pm
Fox News admits they lie and distort the news

In February 2003, a Florida Court of Appeals unanimously agreed with an assertion by FOX News that there is no rule against distorting or falsifying the news in the United States.

Lady S (446)
Wednesday July 2, 2014, 5:27 pm
Seriously, after a "News" station goes to court to lie, I can't believe people believe anything they say.

Theresa R (79)
Wednesday July 2, 2014, 8:48 pm

James Maynard (84)
Wednesday July 2, 2014, 9:58 pm
Was just just about to say what
Joanne Dixon already did.
Thanks Joanne!

Jason R (67)
Wednesday July 2, 2014, 10:31 pm
It's just maddening to hear people say such BS as:

He works for MSNBC, it is a station that really has given up on reporting news in place of opinion television, would you expect anything less?

Every one knows that that statement came from a paid shill that doesn't know their ass from their elbows. Unless you're talking about that idiot, Joe.

Winn Adams (179)
Thursday July 3, 2014, 12:38 pm
What liberal media . . . . .

Charlene Rush (79)
Thursday July 3, 2014, 2:46 pm
I hate to admit it, but this is correct.

PlsNoMessage s (588)
Friday July 4, 2014, 9:11 am
In general terms what might be noticed is that the old style leadership is changing. No longer are those simply out for personal power and wealth able to fool people so easily.
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