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Why I'M Still Skeptical of GMOs

Health & Wellness  (tags: Dow, agent orange, gmo seed, money, law, health, weeds, farming )

- 1623 days ago -
Use of 2,4-D--the less toxic half of the infamous Vietnam-era defoliant Agent Orange--had been dwindling for years, but the rise of Roundup-resistant superweeds has revived it.

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Jill Vickerman (416)
Wednesday January 8, 2014, 5:01 am
It sounds like even the earth is toxic...they have just used stronger and stronger stuff till nothing works anymore except that 2,4-D-- surely, that stuff was proved to be deadly and is still proving to be deadly for the soldiers that were affected by Agent Orange..
Thanks Nancy!

Past Member (0)
Wednesday January 8, 2014, 6:26 am
GM crops do not *create* pesticide-resistant weeds. A common misconceptions due to a misunderstanding of terminology and biodynamics.

Benjamin B (1)
Wednesday January 8, 2014, 8:56 pm
What is of concern to me is the history of creating dependency by big AG. The green revolution hooked decades of farmers on chemical inputs. Now, there have been GMO corn seeds distributed for free in Central America that leave corn sterile. This means after a couple of seasons, farmers are not able to save seeds even if they do not want to use GMO. Their seeds have been contaminiated. If you do not purchase the chemical inputs, your corn will not grow even if does sprout. Lots of money to promote GMO and chemical based agriculure. USAID et all does not fund sustainable agricutlure. Hard to compete with millions of tax dollars promoting dependency.

Ganaisha Calvin (7)
Wednesday January 8, 2014, 10:32 pm
i'm a bit of a skeptic too

Victoria L (13)
Wednesday January 8, 2014, 11:07 pm
From an OCA petition to tell the FDA not to label GMOs as "natural":

Here are the top 10 reasons the GMOs aren’t natural.

1. Genetic engineering is an imprecise technology. It creates unpredictable changes in the DNA, proteins and biochemical composition of the resulting genetically modified organism (GMO), including unexpected toxic, allergenic and nutritional disturbances.

2. GMOs are created by using a gene gun to shoot foreign genes into millions of unrelated cells, or by linking the foreign genes to bacteria that can infect the cells’ DNA. Most of the foreign genes won’t make it into the cells’ DNA. When the foreign genes successfully penetrate the cells’ DNA, it is impossible to predict where they will hit or what the unintended consequences will be for the cells’ original genes.

3. Genetic engineers do not “check their work” to look for potential collateral damage, even though the genetic engineering process can be expected to rearrange, delete or change the function of important genes.

4. The engineered DNA of GMOs produce new proteins that can be toxic or allergenic. GMO proteins that are relatively benign can still be foreign enough to the body that the human immune system will respond to them as foreign invaders. This can trigger allergic reactions, immune system disorders and digestive problems.

5. The new genes introduced to the body by genetically engineered foods don’t get broken down during digestion; they can be taken up across the intestinal wall, transferred to the blood, and as one scientist explains, be “left in the blood, muscle and liver in large chunks so that they can be easily recognized.”

6. The pesticide companies had two main goals when they began to genetically engineer plants. One, to invent novel organisms that could be patented, and two, to sell their insecticides and herbicides.

7. Over 75 percent of genetically engineered crops have been engineered to resist an herbicide. Foods that contain the herbicide-resistant GMO trait also come with an extra helping of herbicides. Between 1996 and 2011, herbicide-resistant crop technology led to a 527-million pound increase in herbicide use in the U.S.

8. The most widely grown genetically engineered crop is soy engineered to tolerate Monsanto’s Roundup herbicide. Roundup causes birth defects in frog and chicken embryos at doses far lower than those used in agricultural spraying. It is also implicated in hormone disruption, DNA damage, cancer and neurological disorders.

9. Roundup has been detected in air, rain, groundwater, people’s urine and women’s blood.

10. Bt corn crops are genetically engineered to produce a toxin from the Bacillus thuringiensis (Bt) bacterium that ruptures the intestines of insects, causing pests to die quickly after ingesting the GMO corn. The Bt toxin has been found in 93 percent of pregnant women and 80 percent of their babies.

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Maureen C (4)
Wednesday January 8, 2014, 11:33 pm
Of course Barbara Daniels is right -- GM crops don't "create" pesticide-resistant weeds.

But, when Round-Up resistant GM crops are sprayed with the herbicide 'Round-Up', a few weeds will have some natural resistance and survive the herbicide: these weeds are then fertilized by other surviving weeds that have some resistance, and proliferate over the now mostly-vacant ground. This is evolution/Mother Nature doing what it does best. The response, of course, is to spray MORE herbicide to try to kill the weeds, and the problem with this is that plants actually take-up glyphosate(the active ingredient in 'Round-Up) into their tissues, and we eat it! I don't want to be a subject of that experiment.

Maureen C (4)
Wednesday January 8, 2014, 11:36 pm
...On a side note: How do Creationists justify GM engineering? If God, or a creator, made the world and every living thing as it is, how can we justify changing the design of those creations? Were they not perfect to begin with, since God made them? just wondering ...

Robert O (12)
Thursday January 9, 2014, 12:33 am
We have every reason to be skeptical of them since for all we do know about them and how horrible they are, there is still a lot we probably don't know which is scary. Thanks Nancy.

Past Member (0)
Thursday January 9, 2014, 1:17 am
Why be skeptical, your replacing 1 teaspoon for sprayed and and absorbed pesticide for a 1 teaspoon of built in pesticide. Kind of silly to be skeptical if you not saying it should all be organic.

Athena F (131)
Thursday January 9, 2014, 1:58 am
Thank you

Nicole Earle (0)
Thursday January 9, 2014, 3:29 am
There hasn't been nearly enough time allowed for experimentation with GMOs. This is a future disaster waiting to happen, it's playing russian roulette with nature in my book.

Past Member (0)
Thursday January 9, 2014, 3:33 am
Always ask and check before believing

Deb E (63)
Thursday January 9, 2014, 10:53 am
Not being skeptical is being ignorant to what nature can do in its' response to humans trying to control it. I am very skeptical for all the reasons Victoria listed but #4 is the most dangerous for me. I already have 5 autoimmune diseases and 2 are the direct result of food.

"4. The engineered DNA of GMOs produce new proteins that can be toxic or allergenic. GMO proteins that are relatively benign can still be foreign enough to the body that the human immune system will respond to them as foreign invaders. This can trigger allergic reactions, immune system disorders and digestive problems."

"Digestive problems" are the least of the worries for the immune system response to these "new" proteins that we humans are just not designed to eat. Autoimmunity is the result of a foreign protein/amino acid getting into the bloodstream. It can start a chain of autoimmunity, diseases where the body develops antibodies towards its' own tissue and destroys it, most all of which involve the endocrine system. Since it is the endocrine system that practically runs the entire body, using GMOs with foreign proteins, deadly chemicals, and DNA from viruses, is like playing a game of Russian roulette. Autoimmunity has tripled since the introduction of GMO foods in the 90's. It is estimated that one in nine women has at least one autoimmune disease. There is a lot to it that even these "brilliant" scientists are not looking into.

Thanks for the article.

Birgit W (160)
Thursday January 9, 2014, 3:00 pm
It is a shame that our governments don't forbid Monsanto to use any GMO at all. I believe in karma, and hope it is coming back to hunt them.

serge vrabec (278)
Thursday January 9, 2014, 4:17 pm
It has gotten to the point where anyone who Betrays THE PEOPLE will be dealt a more powerful karmic blow than recently, this is my understanding. WE ARE raising the baR, raising THE STAKES and raising OUR hands with flags of Freedom and justice. Together , we have stood long and hard, thru thick and thin and now WE EXPECT that our day(s) is coming. So shall it be then,
I am so proud of the folks I met hear years ago, still fighting , still resolute with hearts of gold and fire in their veins. I SALUTE YOU ALL. I am humbled in your presence :):):) Thanks!

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Star S. (54)
Thursday January 9, 2014, 5:33 pm
The problem with the science of GMO's is that their products are being created and commercialised far too quikly. If we really wanted to go the GMO path, with more safety and concern for the environment and mankind- products need to be tested for a very long time. The negative effects on the environment have often been observed after 10 -20 years. I say yes to science, but not the way, companies use it and commercialize it.
Isn't it incredible the amount of technological progress made in the 20th century- yet we are very far from providing the same progress in the areas of medicine and social advances.

DaleLovesOttawa O (198)
Thursday January 9, 2014, 8:07 pm
I have always been leery about GMO's, I prefer my organically grown heritage seeds that grow into veggies with real flavour.

Elizabeth M (65)
Sunday January 12, 2014, 8:45 pm
I am very skeptical of GMO's because of the fact that they have not been tested for a very long period of time as to what effects they will have on humans, the earth and the water. We might as well be eating space food or war rations, at least I don't think the food would have been sprayed with 2-4-D, which for a number of years Canada had banned and NOW IT'S BACK?!!
Thank You Nancy.

ewoud k (68)
Monday January 13, 2014, 2:56 am
Opening Pandora's box - without knowing what's inside.

Tricky business, and finally: what's it good for?

Thanks Nancy!

SuSanne P (193)
Monday January 13, 2014, 4:46 am
Thank you Sweetie! To all, PLEASE also read the earlier post by:
Victoria L
Wednesday January 8, 2014, 11:07 pm
From an OCA petition to tell the FDA not to label GMOs as "natural": SAID IT ALL!


SuSanne P (193)
Monday January 13, 2014, 4:48 am
Thank you Sweetie! To all, PLEASE also read the earlier post by:
Victoria L
Wednesday January 8, 2014, 11:07 pm
From an OCA petition to tell the FDA not to label GMOs as "natural": SAID IT ALL!


SuSanne P (193)
Monday January 13, 2014, 4:57 am
Jill Vickerman, not only is the entire planet TOXIC , many (as I), truly believe it is only a matter of time. Have WE gone too far? I believe we have. I do EVERYTHING humanly possible to NOT leave any future footprint. As my current house guest says...I AM RADICAL IN MY ACTIONS.

Lona Goudswaard (80)
Monday January 13, 2014, 7:14 am
Sceptical? Surely that's an understatement.

. (0)
Monday January 13, 2014, 9:53 am
Noted & posted

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Monday January 13, 2014, 1:55 pm

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Debra Tate (17)
Tuesday January 14, 2014, 11:04 am
Don't want GMO's in the food chain. Why does Monsanto not have food in their cafeteria that contains GMO's? Because they removed them all, just like at the White House. If it is good enough for us why not them?? Because they are slowly poisoning us, keeping in step with U.N. Agenda 21 to bring the world population of the world down to under 500 million!

isabelle f (55)
Tuesday January 14, 2014, 5:41 pm
GMOs : Business is business !!
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