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The Death Of Timothy Souders

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You wouldn't imagine these days that a mental patient could be chained to a concrete slab by prison guards until he died of thirst, but that's how Timothy Souders died and he is not alone.

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Jakki S (173)
Sunday July 29, 2007, 12:17 pm
PLEASE,this is a care2 members son.It was buried,but recently updated.RIP TIMOTHY SOUDERS

Marian E (152)
Sunday July 29, 2007, 12:33 pm
This is such a terrible story and should be noted by all as an example of the backward and inhumane ways with which we still treat our mentally ill. My condolences to the family and my thanks to you for bringing it up again.

Jakki S (173)
Sunday July 29, 2007, 12:38 pm

Doreen Forbes (41)
Sunday July 29, 2007, 12:52 pm
~~my heart goes out to Timothy's mother~~i know far too well what she has gone thro except for her son's death~~my son suffers from schizophrenia and altho he is compliant with his meds now, there were yrs that i was afraid to answer my phone~~off his meds his weight would plummet to 110 lbs (he's 6' tall) because he would walk 10 miles a day to get away from ?~~his delusions and paranoia were terrifying to him and the auditory and visual hallucinations constant~~it is a tortured life for those with brain diseases which tell the person they don't need the meds~~it becomes a revolving door existence going from police custody or missions to psych. hospitals then back out in the streets~~at long last he is taking his meds but the damage has been done and he lives an isolated but safe life in a house with 2 other psych. patients~~his only joys in life are music, going all his awake hours, smoking and drinking coffee~~this is a man with a 126 IQ who as a teen was popular with both sexes, into sports, long distance running, music, etc., but always a problem at school~~nothing criminal but just unable to concentrate and apply himsellf~~there is far too much stigma and lack of knowledge of brain diseases~~these are human beings with extremely serious diseases who shouldn't be called "crazy" or "loony" or "nuts"!~~contrary to popular belief, these poor souls are more likely to harm themselves than other people~~please try to understand that this is a disease that affects the whole family~~it is a disease not a disgrace~~if you are in touch with this mother, Jakki, please tell her that she is in my thoughts and prayers and that i know where she's been!!!

Past Member (0)
Sunday July 29, 2007, 1:08 pm
Noted..OMG! That is awful, no words can describe this...RIP Timothy

Charles C (160)
Sunday July 29, 2007, 1:08 pm
What a tragedy...noted Jakki my friend....

LadyLou B (133)
Sunday July 29, 2007, 1:36 pm
This is truly a horrible thing to happen to anyone. Thanks for forwarding Charles, and thanks for the story Jakki. My condolences to the family.

Past Member (0)
Sunday July 29, 2007, 1:40 pm
Horrible. Noted Jakki.

Past Member (0)
Sunday July 29, 2007, 2:12 pm
I had seen the article here on Care2 and was glad to see that the country had it presented to them by someone they trust. Personally- I just cannot comprehend this and feel speechless before his mother's pain. Thank you Jakki -for keeping this before us.

Phyllis P (237)
Sunday July 29, 2007, 2:27 pm
I have seen this already...a real tragedy..

Jennifer Houser (32)
Sunday July 29, 2007, 2:33 pm
Noted. I will never understand peoples disregard for human life.

L Lopez (1020)
Sunday July 29, 2007, 3:48 pm
Noted, and I certainly hope that one day soon mental health issues while not be treated like a pariah.

Past Member (0)
Sunday July 29, 2007, 4:15 pm
Noted/thank you Jakki for bringing this to me/don't kid yourself---mental health problems are still looked down upon, made fun of and as this proves, criminal mistreatment of individuals---I don't know i f people don't want to understand, are afraid to try to understand (they might find something of themselves that need treatment), or what the problem is-------but mental health is right up there with racism and all the other stigmas---

God bless this boy and his family.

Cris c (178)
Sunday July 29, 2007, 4:24 pm
txs jakki

Alys T (10)
Sunday July 29, 2007, 5:03 pm
in the 1970s we were reading text books on Mental HealthCare in the USA and UK and wondering why our wards and day rooms were so far behind what we were reading and researching. Seems to me that the state of practice is widely different from the state of research wherever you are. I've personally seen schizophrenics sent to prison, and once even been part of winkling him out without violence. My state of mind afterwards was horrific. This is not _just_ cruelty to this sorely abused young man and his family, it makes a mockery of all we were trained for and asked to uphold. Perhaps the worst of it is that I am not surprised. Lets work towards a way of life where such a death would not just be outrageous, but unthinkable.

Melanie T (82)
Sunday July 29, 2007, 5:10 pm
Noted/ Thanx to Charles for the message and to Jakki for posting. This is so heartbreaking. My heart goes out to the family, I cant believe they did this to him, OMG! RIP Timothy.

Brenda R (6)
Sunday July 29, 2007, 5:18 pm
I remember this story. It was very upsetting and heartbreaking.

Bobbie W (113)
Sunday July 29, 2007, 9:00 pm
Heartbreaking is right! This should have never happened!

Jana Wyckoff (16)
Monday July 30, 2007, 5:32 pm
This tears me apart! How can anyone call that non-punitive!! This is outrageous. My heart goes out to Timothy and his family.

Wolfweeps Pommawolf (251)
Monday July 30, 2007, 6:48 pm
I'm so sorry Theresa. This should never of happened to your son, to anyone for that matter.
Restrainst should never, never, never be used in situations like this. This young man has been a horrible injustice by the city, state and prison system. This young man should never have been entered into this terrible place. The sate faled this young man on so many levels of compassion and empathy should have prevailed.
This is torture. This I eveil.
This is a shame for ever on the stste of Michagan.

Jaclin S (230)
Monday July 30, 2007, 7:29 pm
My hearfelt sympathies to Timothy's mother. Absolutely diabolical!!!
Love & Light

Dominick J. D (1)
Monday July 30, 2007, 10:33 pm
After viewing a story on 60 minutes this past Sunday, a follow up about the treatment of the mentally ill patients in prison, I decided to write to my elected officials.
I did send this letter to my 2 Sentors in California, Feinstein & Boxer and our congressman Mike Thompson.
My be you too can do this and maybe we can start some interest in getting some legislation written.

Dear elected officlal,

There are over 3 million mentally ill people in Prisons throughout our nation.
They are not getting the treatment they need and deserve and many are dying because of neglect from prison authorities.
They do not belong in prisons nor do they belong on the streets, being shuffled about like cattle.
When are you, or someone, going to write some legislation to overturn the harm that Ronald Reagan and the GOP has created when they closed the doors of all mental facilities?

Dominick J. Di Noto


Kimberly N (24)
Tuesday July 31, 2007, 6:43 am
Noted!! Thank you Jakki ,for all of your updates you send me. This is so sad. My heart goes out to all of our mentally ill and their famlies. It is ashame our government waist so much money on war efforts, instead of taken care of the sick, elderly and homeless. You have opened my eyes to lots of what is going on in our world. It makes me appreciate so much more what I have. Love to you and your family.

Kari D (192)
Tuesday July 31, 2007, 5:20 pm
Noted RIP Timothy

Samantha O (374)
Wednesday August 1, 2007, 1:57 am
Not only is this sad it is unacceptable. In USA, a 'civilised' country, this should NOT happen!! If they can do this to their own citizens then just imagine what injustices and cruelties they can perpetrate against foreign people. This is an outrage of the highest order. It is all well and good for the director to concede these deaths are tragedies,but they are manslaughters and each and every one of the wardens and the director should be charged and convicted as such. Not a tiered system for the rich and poor but a just and equal system for all.

Susan F (116)
Wednesday August 1, 2007, 5:37 am
Noted, with deepest sympathy for his mother and family.

Pam P (65)
Wednesday August 1, 2007, 10:52 pm
I worked 5 years in a Texas State Mental hospital and I can tell you it isn't a pleasant place to be. I turned in more than one person for abuse and neglect. The fact that these places are understaffed is NO EXCUSE ! Ive seen people have their heads banged against trash cans, patients beat up by other patients because they were paid to do so by staff or threatened if they didn't. I took all I could for those years. This could happen to me. I suffer from Bipolar Disorder with Major Depression. The scary thing is there is a lot more mental illness than anyone realise or choose to. Isn't awful that in the year 2007 people still think mental illness is a character defect ?
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