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The Washington Post "Knocks" the Bolivarian Revolution


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Simon
- 1784 days ago - venezuelanalysis.com
The 1st sentence of the Washington Post writer's article is blunt: 'Hugo Chávez's "socialism for the 21st century" has been defeated & is on its way to collapse.' However, the writer gives no evidence, & this Venezuelanalysis article disproves his claims.



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Bill C. (91)
Sunday January 31, 2010, 3:12 am
Noted with interest. Thanks for posting.
 

Simon Wood (207)
Sunday January 31, 2010, 3:27 am
You're very welcome, Bill C : )

Good on you for noting and commenting! : ) And if you haven't read it, please consider reading it ; )
 

patricia lasek (317)
Sunday January 31, 2010, 4:25 am
Interesting read. I like the way the author knocks down this "self-styled" analyst.
 

Naoko I. (260)
Sunday January 31, 2010, 6:55 am
"Interesting" article. BTW in the last part, it is mentioned (and doubted) that the aproval rate of Chavez is "below 50%." It is still well better than approval rates of some of Japanese PMs.
 

Jessica S. (178)
Sunday January 31, 2010, 7:40 am
Chile has a record of being a conservative country. (It was a surprise -- albeit a refreshing one -- to see Michelle Bachelet's election in 2006.) As for Honduras, that election was tainted by the June coup, which was orchestrated by SOA graduates and wealthy landowners.

What about Evo Morales' landslide re-election victory in Bolivia? Or Jose Mujica's recent victory in Uruguay?

Every movement has its ups and downs, but two aberrations do not spell doom and gloom for the Bolivarian Revolution, despite what the corporate lackeys may wish.
 

Jessica S. (178)
Sunday January 31, 2010, 7:52 am
I should also point out that Michelle Bachelet could not run for re-election, given the terms of the Chilean constitution. Had she been able to, she probably would have won, considering her popularity.
 

Just Carole (338)
Sunday January 31, 2010, 8:47 am

Well, the Washington Post has some credibility problems in the first place.

In a Post article today, they said that "It's not hard to find reasons why Americans are down on Capitol Hill, and why President Obama's approval rating has dropped below 50 percent in many polls."
 
(Hmmmmmmm . . . I wonder what the Post's approval rating is. hehehehe)
 
Thanks for posting, Simon!
 
 

Just Carole (338)
Sunday January 31, 2010, 8:50 am
 
Wash Post Quotes Bogus Tea Party Leader
 
 
 

Yvonne White (233)
Sunday January 31, 2010, 2:31 pm
The Washington Post has become another National Enquirer, and most Corporate Media have fallen to new lows since the Bu$h Leaguers have taught them that you Really DON'T Need to DO all that nasty Work to get ahead! Just make up stuff!!! It works: it gets press, it gets you promotions, and Hardly Ever gets you jailed!;)
 

BMutiny TCorporationsEvil (464)
Sunday January 31, 2010, 2:41 pm
Yes, the Washington Post is nothing but a dis-reputable rag.

'Referring to Haiti and Chavez’s comments on it, he adds that “his state television even claimed that the U.S. Navy caused the earthquake using a new secret weapon.”. He took this sentence from an opinion article published on the webpage of a public Venezuelan television channel. I suppose that, following the same logic, all the opinion published on public US television would be attributed to Obama.'

At least, in THIS instance, the Post was better than another source I saw, which said that "CHAVEZ claimed that the earthquake was caused on purpose by the United States". Yeah.
Ummmmmm, I kinda wondered about the truth of that.........???!!! ;-]

About "Haitians cheering the Marines", I kinda wonder about the truth of THAT, also. Our Media, when they can't TWIST facts, which they'll do if they can, resort to out-and-out blatant LYING. Certainly, the Haitians have LITTLE REASON to cheer the Marines.

Ever wonder, when you see all that bottled water, etc., being unloaded by the Marines, HOW MUCH OF IT IS FOR LOGISTICAL SUPPORT OF THE MARINES THEMSELVES; and how much goes to the starving Haitians?

Think of ALL THE QUANTITIES OF FOOD, WATER AND MEDICAL EQUIPMENT IT TAKES FOR 20,000 TWENTY THOUSAND AMERICAN TROOPS TO STAY SAFE AND HEALTHY. Of course, we don't begrudge them ANY of this! smirk!

But just think of the TONS AND TONS of food and water THAT ALL HAS TO BE SHIPPED INTO HAITI, for the Occupying Force -- one that is settling in to stay there for MONTHS AND YEARS, perhaps!
Lots of WATER to drink in a hot climate; and clean water for showers, shaving, laundry, dishwashing......
Think of the EXPENSE, too! Of course, naturally "our guys" deserve the best..... {And it'll be "hidden" under "Aid to Haiti", NO DOUBT.}

BUT THE HAITIANS AREN'T GETTING ANY OF WHAT IS MARKED FOR THE AMERICAN TROOPS. {Is more than a token, even left over for the Haitians?}

Aid workers distributing aid from other countries and sources, use up only a TINY FRACTION of the aid they bring in, to keep THEMSELVES going.....

I know this post is about Venezuela! But I HAD to say this.....!
And today, THEY STOPPED AMERICAN FLIGHTS OF INJURED HAITIANS TO THE U.S., BECAUSE THE STATE OF FLORIDA COULDN'T AGREE ON WHO WAS GOING TO PAY FOR THEIR TREATMENT.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Socialized Medicine", anyone?
LET'S HOPE THOSE UNFORTUNATE INJURED PEOPLE GET SOMEHOW FLIGHTS TO CUBA OR TO VENEZUELA -- EXCEPT PROBABLY THE PENTAGON WON'T ALLOW IT.

THE PENTAGON HAS MADE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE HAITIAN GOVERNMENT, THAT ALL AID IS LEGALLY FERRIED ONLY THRU THE U.S. PENTAGON.
THE PENTAGON GETS TO DECIDE, WHO GETS WHAT AND WHEN AND WHERE.
Could "Reward" and "Punish" with Aid, if it wanted to!!!!!!!!!
"Cheering" INDEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Simon Wood (207)
Sunday January 31, 2010, 3:30 pm
Hi Naoko, you wrote:

'"Interesting" article. BTW in the last part, it is mentioned (and doubted) that the aproval rate of Chavez is "below 50%." It is still well better than approval rates of some of Japanese PMs.'

Ah, the approval rate of Chavez is about 60%+. : )
 

Naoko I. (260)
Sunday January 31, 2010, 3:49 pm
Hi, Simon. I assumed it was not "below 50%" but higher. And tha't great. Who can match that figure among presidents or prime ministers of "the first world" countries?
 

Simon Wood (207)
Sunday January 31, 2010, 3:58 pm
Hi Jessica C : )

Chile elected the centre-left government of Michelle Bachelet in 2006, but Chile elected a rightwing government this year (2010). What are the people of Chile thinking??? Too much fascism on the brain methinks (the result of their indoctrination by the media and education system during the Pinochet regime).

One of my few Chilean friends called herself a "socialist", but she believes the anti-socialist propaganda from privileged immigrants who have moved from Venezuela to Chile, and she believes Chile's capitalist media lies about Venezuela, so she does not like the Venezuelan revolution. Well, guess what you get when you go right instead of left? Another government of Pinochet types, who will continue enforcing the agenda of the rich exploiter class, to the detriment of the working class majority. : (

Yeah, the Honduras election was certainly not free and fair - it was held under the control of the oppressive coup regime, with pro-coup police, soldiers and paramilitary death squads keeping media closed if it disagreed with the coup, and killing, arresting, torturing and terrorising the population. And yeah, that coup was supported by the U.S. government....

You wrote: "Every movement has its ups and downs, but two aberrations do not spell doom and gloom for the Bolivarian Revolution, despite what the corporate lackeys may wish."

Yeah, I agree : )
 

Simon Wood (207)
Sunday January 31, 2010, 3:59 pm
Hi Naoko : ) Thankyou for your comments : )
 

Simon Wood (207)
Sunday January 31, 2010, 4:02 pm
It is great to see you all here noting, reading and posting comments, amig@s : )

Especially BMutiny - thankyou for wiriting so much for us! : )
 

BMutiny TCorporationsEvil (464)
Sunday January 31, 2010, 4:24 pm
I got STEAM coming outta my ears, and I HAVE TO LET IT OUT....... :[

The situation in Haiti, every day just MORE U.S. SCREW-UPS AND HIDEOUS U.S. UNCARINGNESS in the face of suffering that the U.S. Elites COULD do something about if they WANTED to -- and there will be those who say we are "giving 'too much' Aid to Haiti", and those who say "The U.S. gives more than anybody else" and TRASH LIKE THAT -- and they just DON'T KNOW ANY BETTER....... :[
 

Just Carole (338)
Sunday January 31, 2010, 4:37 pm

Well, then vent, lady . . . I LUVS to read ya!
 

Simon Wood (207)
Sunday January 31, 2010, 5:02 pm
Hi BMutiny : ) You could post more alternative media articles in Care2, about the reality of Haiti ; ) I reckon that would educate some of the people here - those who are willing to learn, anyway....
 

Elsa ED (231)
Sunday January 31, 2010, 5:22 pm
About the only thing the Washington post is good for is lining titer box.
 

Elsa ED (231)
Sunday January 31, 2010, 5:52 pm
Typo should have been a Kitty litter box.
 

Simon Wood (207)
Sunday January 31, 2010, 10:07 pm
Yeah, I agree, Elsa ; ) Heheh! : P

Or for toilet paper, for people who don't have money to buy any.... ; )
 

Pastor Tim Redfern (581)
Monday February 1, 2010, 11:24 am
You've got to love how facts always
trump proproganda.
"Chavez's revolution has failed"?
Gee, that's news to me.
Here I'd thought it was going along quite nicely,
from the bottom-up, as it should be.
Simon, IMHO, The Washington Post is good for two things:
Wrapping fish, and lining the bottoms of bird cages.
Thanks for the post, me good man!
noted.
 

Simon Wood (207)
Monday February 1, 2010, 6:06 pm
It's great to see you here, Pastor Tim : )

I would like to respond to something you said, my friend. : ) You know I am a big supporter of the revolution in Venezuela, yeah? Well, I also want you to know that I prefer revolutions that are completely from the bottom-up.... However, after plenty of reading about the revolution in Venezuela (from non-capitalist sources), I would say that the revolution in Venezuela is a combination of bottom-up AND top-down political change.

I would prefer MORE change from the bottom-up, of course. : ) I think that that is the most healthy way: it prevents corruption, oppression and other abuses of power... and it ensures the success of the revolution, even if the U.S. and its local rightwing proxies assassinate Hugo Chavez....

I encourage people in every country to increase bottom-up political change in their own countries - including the building of democratic and egalitarian mass movements, to engage in many kinds of non-violent political activism, including the election of democratic and egalitarian politicians to government. : )
 

Simon Wood (207)
Monday February 1, 2010, 6:08 pm
PS, this does NOT mean that I don't support the democratic socialist revolution in Venezuela. I DO very much support it! : )
 

Stephan B. (38)
Monday February 1, 2010, 7:23 pm
Soooooooooooooooooo,

20,000 marines aren't cosidered an occupying force??
When to we build a permanent air stike facility?
Any ideas on where we may be invading in S. America?
 

Pastor Tim Redfern (581)
Monday February 1, 2010, 8:51 pm
You cannot currently send a star to Simon because you have done so within the last week.
 

Simon Wood (207)
Monday February 1, 2010, 8:54 pm
Hi Stephan B : )
I don't understand your point(s). Please say more?

I will try to answer your questions:

I agree that 20,000 marines (the latest figure I read was about 12,000 U.S. troops + 9,500 U.N. troops from capitalist countries who are cooperating with them) are an occupying force: that force is more foreign occupation troops per person in Haiti than were in Afghanistan before the recent surge in Afghanistan.

The U.S. military already has permanent/longterm military bases in Florida, Honduras, Paraguay, Colombia, the Dutch-colonised Island of Aruba, and Trinidad & Tobago (and Puerto Rico? And Panama?) - all of which they can use to threaten, to attack and to invade Cuba and Venezuela and other leftwing countries in the area which the U.S. ruling class thinks are "not submitting to U.S. corporations enough".

Plus the U.S. military has plenty of aircraft carriers that they can use for launching bomberplanes and other warplanes as close as they choose to the coast of many Latin American and Caribbean countries, too.

But, yeah, Haiti would be a useful addition to the U.S. military base network, for U.S. imperialism. And also, with a U.S.-led occupation of Haiti, the U.S. ruling class can ensure a government submissive to U.S. imperialism, for maximum economic exploitation by the U.S. ruling class, and to prevent Haiti from joining the democratic leftwing countries of the region in the A.L.B.A. alliance....

As for invading South America, well, the U.S. military is already in Paraguay and Colombia.... And the U.S. capitalist ruling class already has puppet governments in Colombia, Peru and Chile.... Plus the U.S. captalist ruling class already has exploitative trade agreements with many countries in South America... and the U.S. capitalist ruling class already has U.S. multinational corporations exploiting the workers and resources of most countries in South America.

Plus, the U.S. capitalist ruling class is already engaging in "low-intensity warfare" and political warfare against the governments and people of Bolivia, Cuba, Ecuador, El Salvador, Nicaragua and Venezuela. E.g. The U.S. government is supporting attempted coups and separation movements in rich rightwing regions, giving millions of dollars each year to rightwing political parties and groups, many of them violent, and the U.S. has at least indirectly supported Colombian paramilitaries, who have infiltrated Venezuela to act as death squads for the capitalist class of Venezuela, assassinating peasant leaders and labour unionists, etc....

Yes, I agree with those who think that the U.S. ruling class prefers a strategy like the terrorist-contra strategy that they used in Nicaragua: external pressures and threats of invasion, along with support for proxy terrorist/guerrilla forces to terrorise the populations of leftwing countries, until the people give up their democratic leftwing revolutions.

Also, I reckon that the U.S. ruling class will also use any opportunities they see, to create civil wars in Latin America (e.g. between the elitist separatist movements and people's governments in Venezuela, Bolivia and Ecuador), and wars between Latin American countries (e.g. between Colombia and Venezuela). And if the U.S. ruling class think it is worthwhile, then they will use U.S. military forces to "intervene" and "defend" the capitalist and rightwing forces in any conflict that happens.
 

Simon Wood (207)
Monday February 1, 2010, 8:57 pm
Thankyou Pastor Tim : )
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday February 2, 2010, 2:39 am
i don't know enough about the situation
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday February 2, 2010, 2:39 am
but...
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday February 2, 2010, 2:39 am
thanks for posting!
 

Lloyd H. (46)
Tuesday February 2, 2010, 12:46 pm
And we all know from decades of historical proof that Hugo Chavez could be the single mosts bloody monster since Pol Pot and decorate his Presidential Palace with the rotting corpses of victims of his torture and so long as he was anti-communist and doing business with the US Corportate Government all of the Mainstream Medi would do nothing but sing his praise. Same garbage new can! And it is not like the US has not had a hand in the political and economic conditions in Haiti, the US just assumes the right to play 'king maker'for all of Central and South America those who play the anti-communist/socialist card have carte blanche to commit all the atrocities on their own people they want, hell the US has the School of the Americas where they can send their torturers, assassins,political thugs and Secret Police and we will teach them all the best and proven techniques for controlling the people of their nation through fear, intimidation, violence, murder, election rigging and voter fraud.
 

Pastor Tim Redfern (581)
Tuesday February 2, 2010, 12:53 pm
Actually, Lloyd, in my opoinion,
George W. Bush and Dick Cheney
were the single most bloody monsters
since Pol,Pot, but your point is taken, sir.
It's an excellent comment indeed.
 

Simon Wood (207)
Tuesday February 2, 2010, 9:03 pm
Hi Connor : ) If you read the article (and other articles at Venezuelanalysis.com), then you will learn more about Venezuela, U.S. imperialism, etc....
 

Simon Wood (207)
Tuesday February 2, 2010, 9:10 pm
Hi Lloyd : )
I also want to add something that alot of people don't seem aware of:

Pol Pot's genocidal Khmer Rouge regime in Cambodia was supported by the USA, because the Khmer Rouge regime was the "enemy of the USA's enemy" - Vietnam, which was supported by the USA's main enemy, the USSR. And the genocide was stopped by the Vietnamese invasion into Cambodia - which the USA OPPOSED!!!

That was the actual relationship between the USA and Pol Pot and his genocide in Cambodia. Please research it if you don't believe me. But also, please look thoroughly, because the capitalist media was not keen to advertise that relationship. A great place to start is the writings of Noam Chomsky - most of which are available on the internet. He gives references to other sources, too. : )
 

Simon Wood (207)
Wednesday February 3, 2010, 4:51 pm
Roman G wrote some things above that are a personal attack against Pastor Tim. I ask that everyone flag Roman G's comment, to tell Care2 Management that Roman G wrote a personal attack - which is a violation of the Care2 Code of Conduct.

Rman G also wrote some lies about politics above: "Simon, Chomksy was the supporter of that bloody genocide in Cambodia, speaking loud about something he has no clues about, as usual. USA never supported Pol Pot, you don't need to invent history."

No, Noam Chomsky did not support any genocide in Cambodia, or anywhere. Noam Chomsky has specifically campaigned AGAINST genocide, including against the genocide in Cambodia, which the USA started by its 1960s and 1970s bombing camapaign, and which the USA continued by giving support to Pol Pot's genocidal Khmer Rouge regime.

Here is some evidence:

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/US_ThirdWorld/US_PolPot.html
http://www.chomsky.info/articles/199903--.htm
http://www.chomsky.info/onchomsky/20091201.htm

http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:kIU1z0pmPikJ:www.yale.edu/cgp/KiernanCambodia30thAnniversaryEssay.doc+Cambodia+USA+support+Khmer+Rouge+Pol+Pot+genocide&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmer_Rouge_rule_of_Cambodia#Aftermath
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Killing_Fields#Accusations_of_genocide

You can find more evidence yourself.
 

Pastor Tim Redfern (581)
Wednesday February 3, 2010, 6:51 pm
Roman G.? (he asked, totally in the dark).
I guess, obviously, Care Support deleted his comment attacking me
before I read it, which is just as well.
Those of you who DID see the comment,
kindly spare me the details?
I don't need or want to know.
Simon, you are a true and genuine friend, watching my back that way.
Please know,me good man, I would always do the same for you! :-)
 

Simon Wood (207)
Wednesday February 3, 2010, 6:56 pm
Yeah, I reckon Care2 Management was quick to apply justice in this case, after I (and others?) flagged Roman G's personal attack comment. : )

I praise Care2 Management for that. : )
 
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