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New Battle for Wounded Knee: Sale of Massacre Site Exposes Tribal Tensions

Society & Culture  (tags: South Dakota, Wounded Knee Massacre Site, Wounded Knee site on sale, landowner James Czywczynski, Lakota Sioux Tribe, controversy, Pine Ridge Reservation, proposed horse slaughterhouse )

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Oglala Sioux must find nearly $4m to prevent massacre site being sold off, the latest in a series of issues that has the South Dakota tribe's modernisers and traditionalists at loggerheads.

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Debbie G (306)
Thursday May 2, 2013, 9:11 pm
What a travesty. This is all wrong.

Elle B (84)
Thursday May 2, 2013, 10:11 pm
Thank-you for posting this Judy. So few people seem to know anything about this nor seem to care. . .hopefully something can still be done to re-route this stupid nonsense.

"Then, too, his law was a written law; his divine decalogue reposed in a book. And what better proof that his advent into this country and his subsequent acts were the result of divine will! He brought the Word! There ensued a blind worship of written history, of books, of the written word, that has denuded the spoken word of its power and sacredness. The written word became established as a criterion of the superior man—a symbol of emotional fineness. The man who could write his name on a piece of paper, whether or not he possessed the spiritual fineness to honor those words in speech, was by some miraculous formula a more highly developed and sensitized person than the one who had never had a pen in hand, but whose spoken word was inviolable and whose sense of honor and truth was paramount. With false reasoning was the quality of human character measured by man's ability to make with an implement a mark upon paper. But granting this mode of reasoning be correct and just, then where are to be placed the thousands of illiterate whites who are unable to read and write? Are they, too, 'savages'? Is not humanness a matter of heart and mind, and is it not evident in the form of relationship with men? Is not kindness more powerful than arrogance; and truth more powerful than the sword? ― Ota K'Te/Mochunozhin, (1905-1939) Oglala Lakota [aka:Chief Luther Standing Bull, Teton Sioux]

"Authentic treachery is found when we abandon ourselves, becoming deaf to the whispers of our spirits and blind to the powerful potential therein." ― Joaquin Mariel Espinosa

“A Native American grandfather talking to his young grandson tells the boy he has two wolves inside of him struggling with each other. The first is the wolf of peace, love and kindness. The other wolf is fear, Greed and hatred. "Which wolf will win, grandfather?" asks the young boy. "Whichever one I feed," is the reply.” ―1st Nations Proverb


James Merit (144)
Thursday May 2, 2013, 10:28 pm
Thank you.

Krystal R (120)
Friday May 3, 2013, 6:58 am
Dana Lone Hill: wounded Knee should be a national monument, not a profit centre
Dana Lone Hill: The site of the 1890 massacre – and the Sioux uprising of 1973 – deserves more respect than to be auctioned to the highest bidder

Fiona Ogilvie (565)
Friday May 3, 2013, 11:08 am
This is so sad. They could be helping each other.

Judy C (97)
Friday May 3, 2013, 3:11 pm
Thanks to all of you for commenting, and for your interest in this possible sale. Thank you for all your info on this, Elle. Here's a lnk for a related petition Leuth just posted in C2nn:

Nation Needs to Not Sell Wounded Knee; Make National Monument Instead. PLEASE SIGN!!

Yvonne White (229)
Saturday May 4, 2013, 2:03 pm
thank you for signing:
Make National Monument at Wounded Knee Historic Landmark on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation

Michael M (60)
Saturday May 4, 2013, 2:05 pm
I have elsewhere mentioned the attempts by the US govt to pervert other cultures who had often lived in far more sustainable and sacred ways; the Dawes Act, or General Allotment Act.
To make sure I went just now to wikipedia, and I advise going there to understand.

Because of this land privatisation act which actually attempted (and largely succeeded at) to create artificial permanent governing bodies and private land on treaty territories we have some to this:

Czywczynski (the present "landowner") asserted that,
"contrary to the view offered by the Sioux, it is not unusual for an outsider like him to own land. He estimated that about half the reservation is not owned by the tribe. Czywczynski ran a trading post and museum at Wounded Knee but they were burned down in the 1973 confrontation.

Czywczynski is dismissive of the Pine Ridge protests over the sale. "The Indians say a lot of things. All of it bogus. They want me to give them the land," he said. "They live in a dream world."

May all of you find such a dream, for the fictions and dreams of the takers are here shown to be continuing evil, and we need to seek beauty and value and community.


Angelika R (143)
Saturday May 4, 2013, 6:05 pm
We all shared the joy and happiness over the Pe'Sla success- and just about 5 months later now this ... unbelievable and heartbreaking.
I would recommend you read on here, Vincent Schilling already covered the entire Pe'Sla story:

Though Czywczynski says he has not yet sold the property, he has had many interested parties contact him.

“We are already getting a flock of calls from people including realtors… a local one in South Dakota that has a woman who wants to buy the land and give it to the Oglala Sioux,” he said.

Czywczynski says he would welcome anyone who wants to purchase the land and then give it to the tribe. “I would be glad to have that happen. Somebody from Al Jazeera might buy it too, or some foreign country. This is worldwide now.”)


Angelika R (143)
Saturday May 4, 2013, 6:09 pm
Forgot to thank you again Judy! Let's praying and hoping for a good ending to this, like we did before.
Maybe the Oglala should also have tried another international fundraiser.

RosemaryRannes HusbandNeedsPrayers (650)
Saturday May 4, 2013, 11:55 pm
Thank you Judy for this updated post on Wounded Knee and the link to Leuth's post with petition.
Dandelion also shared additional links to sign petitions which I have posted to Twitter and also
to my news post .

RosemaryRannes HusbandNeedsPrayers (650)
Saturday May 4, 2013, 11:58 pm
Most importantly what I forgot to say was once again Thank You to Michael M. for all his sharing!

Carmen Elisa Bonilla-Jones (1)
Sunday May 5, 2013, 5:51 am
I do not understand how a white man with no affilation to the Oglala Sioux or any native American tribe came to "own" the land? But I suggest that the tribe use the "white man's" law and claim eminant domain. Pay him the $10,000.00 the land is actually worth and throw him off the reservation!

David Johnson (13)
Sunday May 5, 2013, 8:49 am
This is a travesty! The Oglala Nation is more than entitled to the Wounded Knee site. This land has significant and tragic importance to the Sioux Nation. To profit from the sale of this land is at best a base and callous attempt by Czywczynski to denigrate The Sioux Nation. I believe he is trying to exact financial retribution for the loss of his trading post in 1973. He my have a "legal" right to sell the land, but he doesn't have the moral high ground here. I whole heartedly agree with you @Carmen Bonilla-Jones...exercise eminent domain the throw him off the reservation!
Wounded Knee should be declared a National monument not only because of its importance to the Sioux Nation, but also as a testament to the brutal and imperialist past of the US Government. The lessons of Wounded Knee should be examined and taught as an example of inhuman treatment of subjugated nations. That we should know and learn, and all say...Never Again!

Patricia E. G (54)
Sunday May 5, 2013, 11:18 am
Thank you Judy for posting this.
By selling the land the government is shoving the past under the table and hiding it.
The wounded Knee site should be a designated a Sacrificial Land and a National Monument.
For all the souls that perished there the grounds should remain pristeen.

Lynn Squance (235)
Sunday May 5, 2013, 1:15 pm
Signed Leuth's petition.

To me, the Wounded Knee site is a sacred site and anything other than a memorial would be desecration. That Czywczynski (the present "landowner"), would sell it at such an inflated price, is scandalous. He is preying on the spiritual values of the Oglala Sioux First Nation. If he is ok with someone buying the land and giving it to the Oglala Sioux, then why doesn't he do it himself, or at least sell it at a much more reasonable price? Is it maybe because he is pissed off that his museum and store were burned down in the 1973 protests? One has to wonder.

Russell R (87)
Sunday May 5, 2013, 2:54 pm
I side with your People, the broken treaties, the promises and the treatment of your People. As an American, I take on all of it's faults and all of the good things it has done, internationally. The America I believe in, would want to right it's wrongs, but, like in this situation, it is not so! This Czywczynski, I am sure, does not want to share in the blame of the cost of this Nation's building, that of a Nation destroyed. The only way for your People to survive is to Learn it's Laws. This is the only way to stop this aggression against your People and it starts with your young and what you teach them. Your a Nation within a Nation and need your young to change your the Future and Preserve your Past. Until that time, and I don't know much about the Law, but, would take your case to The International Court of Justice, the World Court or The Hague, which is the judicial branch of the United Nations. You need International Exposure to wake up America, especially when in comes to the broken Agreement with France, concerning your People and the Land, in the Louisiana Purchase !
This is not the Past, but, the present and most of Americans here now, have no connection with the Past and will Stand with You! and those of us that were born here were taught to believe that America Stands for "Truth and Justice!" That is what we were taught and believe it all ended with the assassination of JFK and his brother, Robert (Bobby) Kennedy! It is no longer, "WE THE PEOPLE!" but, we the corporations that are in control of this Government, by Corruption and Greed! Greed is a word your People are very well familiar with!
International Recognition!
- a phrase a Dear Friend of mine used and told me the Meaning. It's something I have always held as True!

. (1)
Tuesday May 21, 2013, 1:28 pm
"Czywczynski is dismissive of the Pine Ridge protests over the sale. 'The Indians say a lot of things. All of it bogus. They want me to give them the land,' he said. 'They live in a dream world.' "
I'm betting this man doesn't even *realize* the depths of his racism or the extent of his cultural superiority complex. As a good friend says: May the Farce be with You.
Le sigh.
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