Monday December 1, 2008, 2:08 pm
Excellent idea. Count me in!
Thank you Eureka.

Monday December 1, 2008, 2:26 pm
WHAT A NICE IDEA, IT WOULD HELP ALOT TO KEEP THE BULLFIGHTING EFFORTS FRESH ON THEIR MINDS!! GREAT JOB EUREKA!! THANKS FOR POSTING, AND EVERYONE HERE AT CARE2 HAVE A MAGICAL WEEK!!..:):)..

Monday December 1, 2008, 2:26 pm
Eureka, brilliant idea!!!

Monday December 1, 2008, 2:30 pm
Uh, I posted a thank you to you Kathy, but it seems to have disappeared into the ether. So, once again, thank you very, very much for being 'IN'. We'll make a difference - one way or another. Bless you my friend!

Monday December 1, 2008, 2:32 pm
Thank you Avenging Angel Warrior! Methinks you should put something like this together for Greece's animal abuse? Just a thought...

Monday December 1, 2008, 2:53 pm
Eureka,,what a wonderful idea,, you can count me in I wish we could stop all bullfighting too,,

Monday December 1, 2008, 3:04 pm
Count me in as well!!

Monday December 1, 2008, 3:31 pm
Ok, I need help. I was at Eureks's home page looking for what I had to do,started clicking things and next thing I know, I'm right back here again!! I'm a dunce! LOL

Monday December 1, 2008, 3:39 pm
But will you include from next week the email addresses I sent you for the Spanish politicians?

Monday December 1, 2008, 3:59 pm
Hi John, when you get to my page - scroll down a bit. You will see the letters - copy them and save in your word processor. Then go down a bit more and you will see the large lists of email addresses. Copy them too, each lot separetely per country. Then you can go hell for leather in your mailer - copy and paste etc. Hope this helps.

Monday December 1, 2008, 4:01 pm
A note for everyone. Next Sunday evening I will be adding a ton more email addresses to my list. These come from Marisa - she asked me to hold onto them for a little while, and has now given the green light. SO WILL YOU ALL PLEASE CHECK BACK ON MY PAGE NEXT WEEK MONDAY FOR THE EXTRA LIST OF EMAIL ADDRESSES (WILL BE BELOW THE CURRENT LOT). Thanks to everyone who Cares to make a difference. Hugs to you all!

Monday December 1, 2008, 5:20 pm
Ahh! got it!!.Thanks I am going to email one a day starting with the first one and when I reach the last one, I'll start from the top again.

Monday December 1, 2008, 5:27 pm
John, thanks very much! Remember, don't try more than 20 email addresses in the TO: field of your mailing program. You may exceed the limit of number of addresses that can be used per email. If you cc it will most likely be rejected as SPAM. Good luck with your email campaign. If there was any way I could telepathically let all those bulls know we are fighting for them I would. 'There, but for the grace of God, go I.' We could have been born as an animal, and God forbid, as a bull in Spain/Peru/Portugal!
Blessings to you from the bottom of my heart.

Monday December 1, 2008, 5:40 pm
Thank you Eureka for this this everyone should jump on board. a e-mail a week for an animal we just might save him who knows itmay work its way right on through there. Hi Five to you.

Monday December 1, 2008, 8:12 pm
Noted and Eureka thanks for being the warrior for the animals that you are!

Count me in too! I've copied it all in ready to start emailingtonight.
Asli has a similar idea going for the Monkey's in Nepal.

Monday December 1, 2008, 9:08 pm
I am in for the bulls and all other forms of cruelty towards animals.

Monday December 1, 2008, 9:46 pm
Thank you Eureka, despise bull murder, torture.

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 1:02 am
Very excigted to participate. I have been boycotting Spain for years!

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 1:29 am
it a cruel sport and the evil monsters who say not talking a lot of bull sh1t

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 1:49 am
Thank you to everyone who noted and commented. I would ask that you please leave a comment, not just noted. This keeps the campaign in the news, so that many more care2 members will have an opportunity to see the 'news'.

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 2:17 am
A MINHA OPINIÃO É QUE OS SÉRVIOS DEVIAM TRATAR DOS SEUS PROBLEMAS E NÃO METER-SE NA VIDA E NA CULTURA DOS OUTROS POVOS.
ABAIXO A HIPOCRISIA !!!
E MUITO BOM DIA...



this is one reply i got...i have no idea what it means

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 2:17 am
Sarah, that´s what everyone must do, boycott our country, hit us in the pockets, see if it takes another century for our 'politicians' to wake up once and for all!!! Thanks for doing that Sarah.

Don´t forget that, as well as Spain, Portugal and Perú that Eureka has pointed out, France and other South American countries such as Mexico are also bullfight-guilty, and in the places where it occurs in France, it is EXTREMELY POPULAR, even more so than here, and from what I hear, the public is mainly made up of French people, whereas here, even though Spanish people, of course, still attend, a very large number of people are tourists. France is an important country to target!!!

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 2:21 am
Of courseI am in Eureka

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 2:22 am
Eureka can we do the same for Primates of Nepal you think?

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 2:23 am
I will start collecting email addresses for France and Mexico too. Plus all the EU parliament members for Portugal and France. Once I've added this list to my page I'll let everyone know. I've asked Cid to give us a translation of the reply that Natasha received. Natasha, thanks for posting the reply. And everyone, remember, my email list includes Portugal and Peru - hence the the letter also translated into Portuguese.

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 2:25 am

Natasha, Cid should be able to translate the reply you´ve received, as he´s Portuguese, but from what I understand, it says something like:

"In my opinion, _ _ _ _ _ _ should worry about their own problems and not poke their noses in other people´s affairs (in other people´s lives and 'culture'). Don´t be such a hypocrite. Good day."

I cannot believe the nerve of whoever replied that!!!! Very diplomatic too (NOT!!)!!! The person who replied that deserves a storm of protest emails daily!!! What a tosser.

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 2:28 am

BUT, please wait for Cid to give us the proper translation!!

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 2:31 am
Asli, great idea. My page can only handle one such large project - because a heck of a lot more email addresses will be added soon. I think I'll add a section to my animalsave website - to include lists of email addresses for all countries. This is going to take a lot of time to put together. I'm sure that everyone will come on board. What is the difference between sending one email for the bulls and just one more for the monkeys in Nepal? Not much. And I really think Angela in Greece could perhaps follow suit - to speak out about the horrible aninmal abuse in that country. People will act if we make it easy for them.

I'VE ACTUALLY SET UP AN ALARM ON MY CELL PHONE - EVERY FRIDAY EVENING TO REMIND ME TO SEND THESE EMAILS FOR THE BULLS. A LITTLE THING, BUT IN OUR BUSY LIVES IT IS SO EASY TO JUST LET THINGS SLIDE.

Asli and Marisa, and everyone here - thank you so much for caring! Big hug to all, and if you were within five feet of me - you would all receive a big sloppy kiss. According to my beliefs - the spirits of these animals are now aware of our effort. I know that not everyone at Care2 believes in a God, but I do. And I also believe that nothing goes unnoticed by God. The book of one's life is continuously written. And for all of us here, trying our best - it is noted in our 'books' and cross posted to the 'books' of these poor animals.

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 2:34 am
Natasha, please post the email address of this sod here. So we can do what Marisa said (once proper translation from Cid posted here)- spam the bastard!

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 2:34 am
can u believe the nerve of who ever replied...omg that is so rude, shouldnt they be all diplomatic and stuff?

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 2:35 am
RE: BULL FIGHTING‏
From: gaspardasilva@embportugal.cz
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 1:07:54 PM
To: 'nat' (natagurl@hotmail.com)

A MINHA OPINIÃO É QUE OS SÉRVIOS DEVIAM TRATAR DOS SEUS PROBLEMAS E NÃO METER-SE NA VIDA E NA CULTURA DOS OUTROS POVOS.
ABAIXO A HIPOCRISIA !!!
E MUITO BOM DIA...



Here it is

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 2:37 am
Thanks Natasha, and for that this sod will now receive an email from me every day, not just once a week! What goes around comes around.

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 2:38 am
btw there is a problem with 30something emails they are incorrect...i keep gettin the "mail failure notice"

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 2:42 am
Hi Natasha, please forward these delivery failures to:
info@animalsave.info

I will have a look at the reasons for failure and report back. Perhaps it is just a comma, or semi-colon separator that is the cause, but if you send it to this email address I will check it. Thanks again.

Thanks Eureka

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 2:47 am
I'm in,of course!

I'm a little confused - are we meant to be emailing all the embassies and consulates in other countries as well as our own?

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 2:49 am
Hi Pam, yes, that is the idea. Mail anyone who can possibly influence this issue. Thanks.

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 2:50 am
This is a failure notice received by Julie. I think the translation means that the mailbox is full. Am I correct? If so, well done, keep on sending.

The mail system

: maildir delivery failed: El destinatario no posee
suficiente espacio en su cuenta para recibir el mensaje, por favor intente
enviarlo luego.

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 3:01 am
Yes Eureka, that´s what it means "There´s not enough space in this account to receive the message. Please try later".

I really shouldn´t be here right now... I´ll get into trouble one day!! :-D Will try and come back tonight for a quick peek. Love to everyone.

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 3:12 am
eureka i;ve just sent you an attachment with all the emails that didnt go through.

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 3:16 am
Noted with thanks! Of course you can count me in!

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 3:23 am
Hi Natasha, I've received the mail. Thank you very much. Will look at them later today.

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 3:55 am
Noted and OF COURSE I AM IN!!! Thank you Eureka!!!

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 4:18 am
Eureka - they're ALL being returned -do you want them all forwarded to info@animalsave.info?

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 5:54 am
mmuniz@embassyofperu should read: mmuniz@embassyofperu.us

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 5:57 am
Portuguese email name correction:
emporbo@.col1.telecom.com SHOULD BE: emporbo@col1.telecom.com

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 6:01 am
Spanish email name correction:
embespbo@correo.mae.e SHOULD BE: embespbo@correo.mae.es

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 6:02 am
Once I've tested them all I will post a new list on mypage and here.

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 7:54 am
I'm testing every single email on the list - ONE BY ONE - for the bulls email campaign. Once done I will update my page. Most of the Portuguese emails are going through. A lot of the Spanish ones are failing. It obviously means their websites are out of date! Eeesshhhh....... Thank you all for your patience.

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 7:55 am
Thanks... Thank you Eureka !

It is true that the sad spectacle of bullfighting is present in France : in many departments of the South-West and South-East.

The Association "Alliance Anti bullfights" organizes numerous events to denounce this horror. With the Society Protective of Animals and the Brigitte Bardot Foundation. And with the support of actors, singers and politicians. Many supermarkets, under the weight of threats bocott, gave up promoting these shameful performances.

Many of Associations and groups for the homeless and the needy have renounced collect revenue of bullfights organised for to help them.

Many French forums for the Protection of Animals supports the fight against bullfighting. And displacements are held throughout France in major cities where these monstuosités are organized.

But of Municipal Councils and prefects prohibit of Events Anticorridas.
Demonstrators were arrested by police, some are beaten by those who are for bullfights and also by those who them organize.

In France, weight and size of those for bullfights are so powerful that the advertisements against bullfighting are forbidden on TV !

With the support, shattering statements against anti-bullfighting by of men and women politicians, including by entertainment personalities !

Finally, I will mention that Gérard Depardieu and Ségolène Royal unfortunately with many others personalities, speak of "culture and tradition" !

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 8:49 am
WOW!!! I knew it was bad in France too, but at least we don´t get arrested for demonstrating in Spain!! In fact, the police always protect us, and even push off pro-bullfight people who try to taunt us or who start shouting stuff at us!! Yes, they´re aggressive and violent people, but you feel safer with police protection - and not just normal police, it depends on what we´re demonstrating against: at the Tordesillas demos (against the lanced bull - sign my petition here: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/savage-and-violent-torture-of-bulls-speared-to-death), we get loads of anti-riot police and another type of police (Guardia Civil) to protect us from the violent villagers.

Camille, the thing I don´t know is whether in France you have the equivalent of the Spanish PACMA (Partido Antitaurino Contra el Maltrato Animal - translates as Anti-bullfight Party Against Cruelty to Animals). This is a genuine and legal political party which gained MANY votes at the last general elections in March 08, though they were just a few thousand votes away from a seat!! They´re getting more well known, and this has been a year of a lot of publicity for them because of the amount of demos where they always make an appearance, so I´m positive that they´ll get a seat at the next general elections!

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 8:53 am
So it looks like France, who´ve been hiding in the shadows of Spain, need HEAVY DUTY targeting!!!!!

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 10:19 am
This is great Eureka, thanks to all involved in getting this into motion. Our numbers can pull it off! Once visible in the press, it may get understood that animal lovers all over the world will NOT tollerate cruelty any more. We will stand together, in this and every other cause, busting horrible traditions and subcultures of indifference.

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 12:02 pm
Thank you Eureka
I sure hope this works.

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 3:13 pm
Okay, I've been working at the bounced emails. The Portugal list is now clean. I've updated my page with this list. I've also put a notice with each list to say whether it is 'clean' or not. Please give me time to check them all. I think until the lists are clean everyone must just live with the bounced mail please. I'm working as fast as I can (doing this in my own time too). THANK YOU TO ALL WHO ARE GIVING THIS A GO. REMEMBER WE HAVE TO KEEP IT UP FOR AT LEAST A YEAR! Once the current lists are clean I'll start working on the French and Mexican lists and check each mail before I put it on my page.
Here is the cleaned Portual list (also updated on my page)
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embport@kolumbus.fi; embaixada.portugal@busmail.net; embaixada.portugal@entelchile.net; embaportugal@telefonica.net; embpcai@link.com.eg; embpomex@prodigy.net.mx; embport@axelero.hu; embport@get2net.dk; embport@mbox.vol.cz; embport@public2.bta.net.cn; embportcanb@internode.on.net; embportcanb@internode.on.net; embportj@zb4.so-net.ne.jp; embportugal@embportugal-ottawa.org; embportugalvatican@tiscalinet.it; eptel@012.net.il; mail@scvie.dgaccp.pt; mailto@embaixada-portugal-fr.org; portemb@satis.co.za; portugal@kenyaweb.com; ptembasseydublin@tinet.ie; salvadordacunha@codetel.net.do

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 3:15 pm
Is there anyone here who wants to give a hand in starting to get email lists together (and testing them) for France and Mexico? If so can you please contact me at:
info@animalsave.info
Hugs, Eureka xxx

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 3:24 pm
*I speak Portuguese, and the person who wrote it is saying you should not get involved with other people's cultures.
*Marisa - Mexico is in North America, not South America.
*Many Spanish speaking countries practice bull fighting, not just Peru, Mexico and Spain. I know Ecuador does, but I am not sure of all the countries that do.
*I commend everyone's dedication to the cause. However, I must say that as much as I find bullfighting horrific, I don't believe it will ever go away. It is a firm part of Spanish arts and cultural heritage, and many people enjoy it. I personally have family members who consider it beautiful, and there is simply no convincing them otherwise. I don't find it conceivable to undo hundreds of years of tradition anytime soon.

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 3:50 pm
Well, now is the time to start, and to never give up until it is wiped from the face of the earth. An economic backlash can change a country. Even if it takes a hundred years to undo hundreds of years' worth of crappy 'tradition'. Hitler hid pure sadism under the banner of a 'pure race'. The spanish/portuguese countries hide pure sadism under the banner of 'tradition/religion/culture/whatever'. Just because we can't change it overnight, does not mean it is a lost cause. I for one will never ever stop my efforts to clean this earth from the horror of this abhorrent practise and I thank God I don't have relatives who enjoy it. I will now add Ecuador to my list of email addresses. If anyone on this thread can help to source email addresses for any of the 'outstanding' countries please contact me at: info@animalsave.info. Thanks for letting us know that Mexico is in North America and not South....

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 4:24 pm
Hi everyone, especially you Eureka *

I am still trying to keep up with the large number of messages in my inbox. Since I don't have much free time these days it's been hard :)

I believe this system isn't the best one.
I think all similar groups (for instance all animal rights groups) should be connected and therefore all petitions should be available to everyone. This way we wouldn't flood each other's 'inboxes'...

Anyway, the full translation of the reply mentioned above is as follows:
"In my opinion the Serbs should take care of their own problems and not interfere with other people's culture and life.
Down with hypocrisy!
And have a very nice day!" (with sarcasm)

It sounds like one of those people who thinks that what happens in one's country is only its people's business... True evolution is so far away for some humans (actually for a lot of them...)

When I have time I will help more with this and obviously I will flood their emails :)

But for it to work emails should be sent by the thousands (by different people), otherwise they will not pay much attention to us.

That's why I think there should be a way of connecting all groups. 'We' are very divided on Care2. At least that's what I think...

Thanks!

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 5:10 pm
Eureka - I checked out your profile and I would like to make one suggestion to your letter. In order to be more effective, do not suggest that the country is backwards, unintelligent or less evolved. I agree with you that it is a horrific act, but one tradition does not speak for the entire culture. Anyway, the old saying is true: You catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar. I think direct insults are just going to be off-putting to officials. I know some would argue that they deserve it for endorsing such a practice, but keep in mind that the goal is to work with them in order to put a stop to bullfighting, and implying that they are less evolved is not going to win support. Just a suggestion. Best of luck to you and your campaign.

Tuesday December 2, 2008, 7:40 pm
I'm IN....will get to work Eureka!

Wednesday December 3, 2008, 12:14 am
Here is a very positive response from: João Manso Preto - Embassy of Portugal [manso.preto@camberra.dgaccp.pt]
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Dear Sir,

Thank you for your letter concerning that sort of traditional performance, which I personally consider cruel and barbaric.

I am married to an activist on the rights of animals. As a matter of fact bullfights, like fox hunting, cockfights an all some French treatment inflicted to ducks for foiegras are originated in times far before Christianity, and they subsisted until now. They are primitive forms of amusement, but I think you need more than an act of Parliament to put an end to them.

My Government has not made a decision on the matter, but there is much debate about it in my Country.

Thank you for your pressure!

Yours sincerely,

JOÃO DE CASTRO SOARES
First Secretary to the Portuguese Embassy

Wednesday December 3, 2008, 12:18 am
My dear friend Cid, I agree with you. Care2 is really fragmented. If I'm right, Care2 is going to upgrade the way the site works, with a RSS feed to a page that one sets up - it will show all activity within one's sphere of interest. This will go a long way to helping us communicate. Right now the problem is that not everyone is everyone's 'friends'. This means that the forwards happen, and duplications happen. Once this new layout is in place, all the forwards and duplications should be a lot less, because we will then know that like minded people's news are reaching us.

You are much appreciated Cid, hang in there! Hugs Eureka

Wednesday December 3, 2008, 12:24 am
My reply:
JOÃO DE CASTRO SOARES
First Secretary to the Portuguese Embassy - Camberra

Dear JOÃO

Thank you very much for your encouraging response! Can I ask a big favour? Could you check out my list of email addresses for Portuguese embassies and & consulates on the URL: http://www.my.care2.com/unipulse

I still require the email addresses for all the Portuguese EU members of parliament and I’m sure I’ve missed some other embassy/consulate addresses. Any help would be appreciated, and if there is anyone else in your embassy that we can mail, please help with email addresses. You are of course going to receive a letter of protest from many people once a week – just know it is not targeted at you – but like you said, ‘we must keep up the pressure’. God bless for caring.

Kind Regards
Eureka Morrison (elm)

Wednesday December 3, 2008, 1:05 am
As far as Spain is concerned, I still think that the right person to address is King Juan Carlos. As long as he and his family support and attend bullfighting and the like, noone in authority will listen to us. Only if we can get him to "see the light" will we have a chance to succeed. He needs to be won over and taught respect for animals. I'm sure you all know about his passion for hunting Bears and other animals for sport in many countries (including Romania and other Balkan states). Change HIS attitude and we will have won. MHO

Wednesday December 3, 2008, 4:05 am

Thanks for pointing that out, Marena.

Addresses for "his majesty":

cecom@casareal.es,
prensa@casareal.es,
protocolo@casareal.es

Though do not expect an answer... at least I´ve never had one.

Wednesday December 3, 2008, 4:07 am
Funnily enough, his wife the queen is a vegetarian and does NOT attend bullfights. Fancy the poor woman being married to that tosser.

Wednesday December 3, 2008, 4:17 am
Eureka send me to my Care2 mailbox everything about this: alert + sample letter + email addresses. I"ll make a page on my site.

Wednesday December 3, 2008, 4:31 am
Eurika,you are a gem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am in too. Tks

Wednesday December 3, 2008, 10:34 am
Marisa, I am a TRASTAMARA. Maybe if I use that name it might peak his curiosity enough to reply???? Anyway, I will try my best. Of course I am IN with this campaign.... Lets go get em.....

Wednesday December 3, 2008, 1:43 pm
Emails sent, will be very active! Thanks Eureka!

Wednesday December 3, 2008, 2:40 pm
I LOVE THIS...I'm all for forward thinking...let's do this and make a differnce in the lives of Bulls!! I'm sending my emails right after this comment and will do so every week until something changes!

Wednesday December 3, 2008, 3:44 pm
Everyone, just note that I've not yet had time to complete the cleanup of the bouncing emails for spain & peru. Can only do it this weekend - my schedule is pretty hectic. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Joanna, can you please email me at: info@animalsave.info and give me the email address to send the lists & sample letters. I do not use Care2's email facilities, so can't email you from here. Else just copy from mypage and save to your hard drive for later use, but nb, the spanish & peruvian email lists must still be cleared of the 'failing addresses'. Maybe wait until next week, give me time this weekend to clean up?

HUGS TO ALL WHO ARE 'IN'. I will add 'his majesty of Spain's emails addresses to mypage as well.

Wednesday December 3, 2008, 3:48 pm
Done:
http://againess-en.wikidot.com/help-to-stop-bullfighting
any comments welcome

Wednesday December 3, 2008, 4:07 pm
Mia received this reply from a Peruvian embassy. Can our Spanish speaking friends please translate for us? Thank you!
=================================================
From: Renato Reyes
Estimada Srta. Mia Huolman:

Al avisar recibo de su correo electrónico,
deseamos informarle que lo haremos de conocimiento
de las autoridades concernidas con este tema,
a fin de que evalúen su solicitud.

Atentamente,

Embajada del Perú

Wednesday December 3, 2008, 4:09 pm
Thanks Joanna, will attend to it this evening. Must get some sleep now. Past 2AM here in South Africa! My face is almost on my keyboard - half asleep.

Wednesday December 3, 2008, 4:46 pm
The following countries organize deadly bullfights:

* Spain
* France
* Portugal
* Peru
* Colombia
* Mexico
* Venezuela
* Ecuador

In other countries, like Brazil, Guatemala, Panama and the United States, bulls are being tortured in a different manner. In Brazil, there is the infamous festival ‘Farra do Boi’, where oxes are tortured and killed by a very aggressive crowd. The oxes are set on fire, their eyes are gouged out with knives, etc. It is now forbidden by law to torture oxes during this festival, but people keep on doing it.

In California, Portuguese bullfights are organized. During these bullfights, it's not allowed to torture or kill the bulls, but these animals are exposed to large amounts of stress. It is not known what happens to them after the bullfight.

In the United States, Germany, Portugal and other countries, bulls and horses are also tortured in a different manner, namely in rodeos. The American organization SHARK, the German organization Initiative Anti-Corrida and the British organization FAACE work hard to put and end to the suffering of animals in rodeos.

Wednesday December 3, 2008, 4:56 pm
Natasha wrote "I don't find it conceivable to undo hundreds of years of tradition anytime soon. "

I know that it is difficult to be optimist in this world but there are Spanish towns/cities which already stopped it:

These cities and towns declared themselves against bullfighting. This was a decision of the city council. Some of them still have bullfights, the reasons are mentioned below.

Spain
1. Tossa de Mar (Girona, Cataluña, 1989)
2. Vilamacolum (Cataluña, 1991)
3. La Vajol (Cataluña, 1991)
4. Palafrugell (Cataluña 1991)
5. Calonge (Cataluña, 1997)
6. Barcelona (Cataluña, 2004), still bullfights (the bullring is private property)
7. Torelló (Barcelona, Cataluña 2004)
8. Calldetenes (Barcelona, Cataluña, 2004)
9. Olot (Girona, Cataluña, 2004)
10. Ripoll (Girona, Cataluña, 2004)
11. Tavertet (Barcelona, Cataluña, 2004)
12. Manlleu (Barcelona, Cataluña, 2004)
13. Granollers (Barcelona, Cataluña, 2004)
14. San Feliu del Llobregat (Barcelona, Cataluña 2004)
15. Valls (Tarragona, Cataluña, 2004)
16. Badía (2004)
17. Molins de Rei (Barcelona, Cataluña, 2004)
18. Sitges (Penedès, 2005)
19. Sant Cugat (Barcelona, Cataluña, 2005)
20. Bellpuig (Lleida, 2005)
21. Banyoles (Girona, Cataluña, 2005)
22. Coslada (Madrid, 2005)
23. Abrera (Barcelona, Cataluña, 2005)
24. Cerdanyola (Barcelona, Cataluña, 2006)
25. Sant Andreu de la Barca (Barcelona, Cataluña, 2006)
26. Mollet del Vallès (Barcelona, Cataluña, 2006)
27. Teià (Barcelona, Cataluña, May 2006)
28. Sant Quirze de Besora (Barcelona, Cataluña, May 2006)
29. Gironella (Barcelona, Cataluña, May 2006)
30. Biure de l'Alt Empordà (Girona, Cataluña, May 2006)
31. Cabrera de Mar (Barcelona, Cataluña, May 2006)
32. Cabanes de l'Alt Empordà (Girona, Cataluña, June 2006)
33. Sant Iscle de Vallalta (Barcelona, Cataluña, June 2006)
34. Guissona (Lleida, June 2006)
35. Torrebesses (November 2006)
36. Moià (Barcelona, Cataluña, September 2006)
37. Artesa (Lleida, September 2006)
38. Vilabertran (Girona, Cataluña, September 2006)
39. Sanaüja (Lleida, October 2006)
40. Torrelavit (Penedès, October 2006)
41. Riudarenes (Girona, Cataluña, November 2006)
42. Fornells de la Selva (February 2007)
43. Brunyola (Girona, Cataluña, March 2007)
44. La Fatarella (Tarragona, July 2007)
45. Morera de Montsant (Tarragona, October 1, 2007)
46. Calella (Costa Brava, Cataluña, October 18, 2007)
47. Dels Pallerrols (Tarragona, Cataluña, November 2007)
48. La Bisbal (Girona, Cataluña, December 2007)
49. Basauri (Basque Country, June 2008)
50. Castrillón (Asturias, July 2008)
51. Sant Cebrià de Vallata (Cataluña, October 2008)
52. Palamós (Girona, Cataluña, November 2008)

France
1. Mouans-Sartoux (2005)
2. Bully les Mines (near Lilles, December 2006)
3. Montignac (October 2007)

Ecuador
1. Baños de Agua Santa (2007)

Colombia
1. Medellín (February 2008) Still bullfights and there is a court case going on, since the mayor does not want to sign the declaration.
2. Zapatoca (2008) They also banned all bullfights and cockfights that were planned for this year.

Venezuela
1. Carrizal (October 4th, 2008)

Thursday December 4, 2008, 1:39 am
The reply to Mia looks like the standard acknowledgement of receipt.

I received this -
This e-mail address (embpcai@link.net) was cancelled, please forward to a new e-mail address: embassy@cairo.dgaccp.pt

Thursday December 4, 2008, 2:21 am

Joanna, The League Against Cruel Sports (http://www.league.org.uk/) can be added to the list of organisations trying hard to abolish this horror. PETA also have their section on bullfights, and you can also visit the Spanish organisation SOS (http://www.stopourshame.com/) which has a section in English too (there are LOADS more Spanish ones, but they´re in Spanish!).

The WSPA have a petition against it (http://e-activist.com/ea-campaign/clientcampaign.do?ea.client.id=11&ea.campaign.id=655)

There are more, but I only have two seconds right now so will post more when I come back.

IN THE MEANTIME, please visit my profile, there are more links there. Please keep scrolling down, as they´re not all together in one block, they´re interspersed within the photos and the text I´ve written (some of the photos have links - though not all of them - so please click on them just in case).

I always plan to add more, but it´s finding the time!! I´m always doing ten things at the same time!

Thursday December 4, 2008, 2:34 am

ALSO, if you visit my profile, please click on the BALLS TO BULLFIGHTING panel to get your free Balls to Bullfighting t-shirt, and wear it with pride!!!

Thursday December 4, 2008, 4:17 am

Marena, I certainly would use your Trastámara name in your case, and although I VERY MUCH doubt that 'his majesty' reads emails from 'his' people, whoever opens them should certainly take some kind of notice, I guess, even if they bin the email straight after!

Wear your FREE Balls to Bullfighting t-shirt with pride! Let´s make them famous!!

Thursday December 4, 2008, 5:04 am

Joanna, I´ve added your Againess page to my profile, with the page's opening picture. Thanks.

Thursday December 4, 2008, 11:07 am

Natasha, to your sentence "I don't find it conceivable to undo hundreds of years of tradition anytime soon.", I´d like to reply with the following quotes:

- "I have always held firmly to the thought that each one of us can do a little to bring some portion of misery to an end." ~ Albert Schweitzer

- "I am only one, but still I am one; I cannot do everything, but still I can do something; and just because I cannot do everything, I will NOT refuse to do the something that I can do." ~ Helen Keller

- "Do not wait for leaders. Do it alone, person to person." ~ Mother Teresa

- "Every day you are invited to make choices. Align your choices with your values... and change the world." ~ Nonviolenceunited.org

- "If you want the rainbow you have to put up with the rain." ~ David Nisbet's Care2 profile

- "Almost always the creative, dedicated minority has made the world better." ~ Martin Luther King Jr.

Natasha, please don´t let those who you cannot convince, convince you that you can´t change the world! Peace.

Thursday December 4, 2008, 11:14 am
Although I found the above quote about the rainbow in David Nisbet´s profile, I´ve just done a quick search and it comes up with Dolly Parton as the source. Didn´t know.

Thursday December 4, 2008, 11:46 am
Eureka, I don´t know whether some of the email addresses for Spanish embassies and consulates have been deleted from your profile, but I count about forty-something... there´s loads more here:

http://www.embassiesabroad.com/embassies-of/Spain#7239

And GET SOME SLEEP!!! You need your health!!

Thursday December 4, 2008, 2:00 pm
Hullo all - I'm down with flu. But I've taken the time to add the missing emails of Spain (I only had USA, Europe and Latin America). I've updated my page too. But am pasting the updated list here for all of you. THANKS SO MUCH!

embesppk@mail.mae.es; emb.tirana@mae.es; emb.argel@mae.es; embespad@correo.mae.es; embespao@mail.mae.es; conspmel@mail.mae.es;
cgspainsydney@mail.mae.es; consulspain@smartchat.net.au; embespau@mail.mae.es; embespat@mail.mae.es; ambespbe@mail.mae.es; ambespbe@mail.mae.es; embespbo@correo.mae.es; embespa@ceibo.entelnet.bo

embespbr@correo.mae.es; cgespriojan@correo.mae.es; embespbg@mail.mae.es; embespcm@mail.mae.es; embespca@mail.mae.es; egarcia@interbaun.com; embespcm@mail.mae.es; consuladoespa@tie.cl; embespcl@correo.mae.es; embespcn@mail.mae.es; embesp@public.bta.net.cn; ambespcd@mail.mae.es; embespcr@correo.mae.es; embesphr@mail.mae.es; embespcu@correo.mae.es

enmora@cytanet.com.cy; embespcy@mail.mae.es; embespcz@mail.mae.es; embespdk@mail.mae.es; embespdo@mail.mae.es; cgespsandomingo@correo.mae.es; embespdo@mail.mae.es; embespec@correo.mae.es; cgspalejandria@mail.mae.es; embespsv@correo.mae.es; embespgq@correo.mae.es; embespet@mail.mae.es; embespfi@mail.mae.es; emb.paris@mae.es; ambespga@mail.mae.es

embespgh@mail.mae.es; embespgt@correo.mae.es; ambespht@mail.mae.es; embesphn@correo.mae.es; embesphu@mail.mae.es; embspain@vsnl.com; embespid@mail.mae.es; embespir@mail.mae.es; emb.dublin.inf@maec.es; embespil@mail.mae.es; conspjer@mail.mae.es; ambespit@correo.mae.es; embespci@correo.mae.es; embespjm@mail.mae.es; embespjm@mail.mae.es

buzon.oficial@tokio.ofcomes.mcx.es; embespjo@mail.mae.es; embespkz@mail.mae.es; embespke@mail.mae.es; embespkw@mail.mae.es; embespkz@mail.mae.es; embesplb@mail.mae.es; embesply@mail.mae.es; embesplu@mail.mae.es; castadiva@mol.com.mk; embespmy@mail.mae.es; ambespmr@correo.mae.es; emb.valletta@mae.es; embespmx@correo.mae.es

emb.rabat@mae.es; cgesprabat@mail.mae.es; cgesp.agadir@correo.mae.es; cgtetuan@mail.mae.es; embespmz@correo.mae.es; embespna@mail.mae.es; cdkarky@wlink.com.np; cgespamsterdam@mail.mae.es; lees.delta@xtra.co.nz; embespni@correo.mae.es; embespno@mail.mae.es; embesppa@correo.mae.es; embesppy@correo.mae.es; embesppe@correo.mae.es; cgesplima@correo.mae.es

embesppl@mail.mae.es; embesppt@correo.mae.es; cgesplisboa@correo.mae.es; cgespporto@correo.mae.es; cgesp.pr@correo.mae.es; emb.esp.qatar@terra.es; embespro@mail.mae.es; embespas@nesma.net.sa; cog.edimburgo@mae.es; ambespsn@mail.mae.es; embspainsg@iespana.es; embespsk@mail.mae.es; embespsi@mail.mae.es; embespkr@mail.mae.es; embespse@mail.mae.es

ambespch@mail.mae.es; cgespginebra@mail.mae.es; cgesp.berna@mail.mae.es; cgspzurich@mail.mae.es; embespsy@mail.mae.es; spainemda@net.sy; embesptz@mail.mae.es; embespth@mail.mae.es; ambesptn@mail.mae.es; embesptr@mail.mae.es; embespua@mail.mae.es; embespae@mail.mae.es; embespuk@mail.mae.es; embespus@mail.mae.es; embespuy@correo.mae.es

embespru@mail.mae.es; embespve@correo.mae.es; embespvn@mail.mae.es; embespvn@fpt.vn; embespvn@mail.mae.es; embespzw@mail.mae.es; embespde@correo.maec.es

Thursday December 4, 2008, 2:44 pm
Hullo all - I'm down with flu. But I've taken the time to add the missing emails of Peru (I only had USA, Europe and Latin America). I've updated my page too. But am pasting the updated list here for all of you. THANKS SO MUCH!
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hni@mrecic.gov.ar; embperu@arnet.com.ar; consulperucba@arnet.com.ar; conperlp@speedy.com.ar; conperlp@speedy.com.ar; cpmendoza@millic.com.ar; embassy@embaperu.org.au; c-sydney@conper.com.au; conper.brisbane@gmail.com; desthols@acepia.com.au; embassy@embaperu.org.au; embajada@embaperuaustria.at; konsulat@elsner-world.at

kanzlei.horvatits@advokat.at; konsulat.peru@horvatits.at; comunicaciones@embassy-of-peru.be; embassy.of.peru@unicall.pe; consulate.peru@conperbruselas.be; consulate.peru.antwerp@cmb.be; embbol@caoba.entelnet.bo; conperlapaz@acelerate.com; embperu@embperu.org.br; conperio@terra.com.br

consulperu.sp@uol.com.br; consulmendes@terra.com.br; emaluf@outletcenter.com.br; emperuca@magi.com; info@conperutoronto.com; conpervan@consuladoperu.ca; perou@videotron.net; mccormackperu@shaw.ca; g.a.marcotte@videotron.ca; embstgo@entelchile.net; conperarica@terra.cl; consulperu_valparaiso@rree.gob.pe; consulperu-iquique@rree.gob.pe

lpekin@public.bta.net.cn; pcg@philcongenshanghai.org; conperu@conpersh.com; lbogota@cable.net.co; embaperu@amnet.co.cr; embaperu@embaperu.cu; embaperu.praga@post.cz; embaperu.praga.consul@post.cz; embaperu@verizon.net.do; embpeecu@uio.satnet.net; cperuloj_s@easynet.net.ec; cperuloj_c@easynet.ec; consulperu-machala@rree.gob.pe; conpemac@impsat.net.ec

conperu@gye.satnet.net; embperu@telesal.net; perou.ambassade@amb-perou.fr ; amb.perou@noos.fr; gabinete@embaperu.de; embajada-peru@embaperu.de; hamburgo@rree.gob.pe; konsulat.peru@bre.geuther-group.de; goehrmann@ini-hannover.de; consulgeneral@conperfrankfurt.de; leprugua@concyt.gob.gt; embajadadelperu@cablecolor.hn; info@embaperuindia.com; emperu@012.net.il

alfredor@netvision.net.il; embperu@ambasciataperu2.191.it; conper.genova@tiscali.it; recope@tiscali.it; conperroma@tin.it; comperturin@tiscali.it; peru1@ibw.com.ni; peru@tmx.com.ni; embapeu@pananet.com; embperu@embperu.com.py; peruvianconsulate@yahoo.com; embperpl@atomnet.pl; embperpl@atomnet.pl; leprumoscu@mtu-net.ru; leprubelgrado@b92.net

embperu@pacific.net.sg; emperu@telkomsa.net; lpruseul@uriel.net; lepru@embajadaperu.es; embaperu@arrakis.es; consuladoperubarcelona@ozu.es; Info@consuladoperumadrid.org; juancahves@mallorca.net; perusevilla@telepolis.com; info@peruembassy.se; lepruberna02@bluewin.ch; conperginebra@bluewin.ch; peru@peruthai.or.th; preyapun@chmai2.loxinfo.co.th

postmaster@peruembassy-uk.com; webadmin@embassyofperu.us; informacion@consulado-peru.com; emba8@easymail.com.uy; leprucaracas@cantv.net; puertoordaz@rree.gob.pe

Thursday December 4, 2008, 9:54 pm
Hope you feel better soon. Both my husband and I are down with the flu too
Bad time of the year for us with the constant rain. It's monsoon time. Take it easy and get well.

Thursday December 4, 2008, 10:00 pm
Yes, get better soon Eureka.

Friday December 5, 2008, 2:32 am

You definitely need to get your sleep now Eureka!!! Please look after yourself and get well soon. You´ve done more than enough.

Friday December 5, 2008, 2:57 am
This is the way to go - we must now increase the pressure against these acts of cruelty, not only the Bulls, but all animals abuse. The fur trade gets me down, and horseslaugter and circuses etc. Lets work together and sing VICTORY one day!!!!

Friday December 5, 2008, 4:12 pm
I'm here, still alive! I've added a section on the dog/meat trade on MyPage, with a sample email letter and two email addresses, plus the links to three GoPetitions on this issue. I'll just call MyPage the 'POST OFFICE'. :-)

Saturday December 6, 2008, 12:18 am
We may finally see the end of this malevolent practice.

Saturday December 6, 2008, 4:17 pm
Hi everyone,

First of all let me publicly thank especially Eureka and Marisa for their work. You are the best! ;)

I finally got the time to send all the emails and when I did this is the message I received in my inbox:

"This is the mail system at host correo.maec.es.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.

For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message."

I tried several times but it didn't work!
Is this happening to anyone else? I tried sending it in different ways but the result was always the same... :(

Anyway I will try again in a couple of days...

I also thought of adding a personal note (just a paragraph) at the beginning of the email. I mean, if we only send the sample letter they will eventually end up getting tired and numb and won't listen to us. You can do it in English. Also you could try to write something different each time in the subject field or they will just delete it without even opening it. If you wish you could also include your name and your country. That would at least give them an idea of how many people from different nationalities are committed to fight against bullfighting.

Regarding another issue, I still believe there are too many groups on care2. Look at the Pagans group for instance - they have 15,060 members! Now that makes a difference.

Isn't there a way of bringing us all together into one group? Can this be done? We are all fighting for the same cause - animal welfare. However we are all disperse! Any ideas?

I am also going to send an email to the main animal rights and environmental organizations (including Care2) in order to ask them to connect to one another... Can you imagine millions of people together fighting for one cause? Now that would definitely make a huge difference! If you have time and wish to help, can you please post here the links to the organizations you know?

With this I am not trying to say that all the work we do is useless. Please do not get me wrong. I truly believe this is a very valuable and admirable thing we are doing! I just feel sometimes it would be easier and quicker if we were many, many more! That's all!

Thank you all so much, blessed be and have a great weekend!

Saturday December 6, 2008, 4:58 pm
Testing and removal of 'bad' email addresses
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The email lists for Spain & Peru have not yet been 'cleaned' of mail failures. Some of the messages are returned. Once my internet connection is stable I can send & test. Right now I can't send more than one message at a time - my connection times out! I'm waiting for the telephone/ADSL provider to sort out the problem. So sorry for the delay.

Too many groups on Care2
========================
I agree with Cid. The animal rights/dog lovers/cat lovers/any animal lovers/animal petitions etc. groups are all over the show, with tiny memberships in each. I can't possibly belong to all of them and keep track - there are not enough hours in the day. Perhaps we should create a poll here at Care2, asking if a 'Holding' Group can be created? There can be tons of sub-threads, each to his/her own - but at least important issues can then be broadcasted to the whole group. Another important aspect of such a group would be the ability to sort membership by country. We are often inundated with messages - which is country specific help required. When these country specific requests for help comes in, then they can be targeted at citizens of those countries only. Reading tons of messages I can do nothing about, or tons of duplications does not make for efficient use of time. Cid, I'm going to paste this comment of mine into a Care2 support ticket - and see if anything falls out of the hat.

Saturday December 6, 2008, 5:24 pm
Okay, I've applied to be a member of the CARE2 Support group. And listed my LONG list of complaints in my application motivation. Now waiting for approval. Will keep you posted.

Sunday December 7, 2008, 3:36 pm
Cid, Eureka
actually I don't think the problem is lots of group/orgs. They are connected anyway. even here at Care2; actions posted in one group are forwarded to friends and other groups.
The problem is that people join groups and do nothing.
The problem is that people note news and do nothing.
You know what I mean.
Besides you can't look at number of members in a group - Care2 has been a few years here and many of Care2 members just gone while their profiles are still here.

I'm a member of Amnesty International Care2 group with 35,983 members; please go (it's an open group) and check how many posts are in this group.

http://www.care2.com/c2c/group/ai

Sunday December 7, 2008, 5:03 pm
Joanna I agree. Strange.... Humans will do anything but ACT! Armchair activists.... I think I'm going to eat some worms..... :-(

Monday December 8, 2008, 5:00 pm
You have 100% of my full support Eureka!!!

Tuesday December 9, 2008, 3:11 pm
Bless you Marjorie. Thank you very, very much!

Wednesday December 10, 2008, 11:58 am
Eureka,
I believe argentina is probably a good candidate for bull fighting as well. they do raise lots of bulls. I think Cid has hit it on the nose with his view that we need to affiliate our signatures with others in order to get this noticed. Divided we fall, united we make a huge difference (I'm hoping).

Wednesday December 10, 2008, 12:29 pm
I'm thinking of ways to broadcast this email campaign across the whole internet, and will add Argentina to my list of emails to get together. Thanks for the input Samantha. This is going nowhere fast at Care2.

Wednesday December 10, 2008, 3:46 pm
Hi everyone,

I sent the emails again but the messages I receive are the same:

"This is the mail system at host correo.maec.es.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.

For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message."


"This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification

Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

conperio@terra.com.br

Technical details of permanent failure:
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for further information about the cause of this error. The error that the other server returned was: 550 550 User unknown (state 14)."


Am I doing something wrong or is anyone else also getting these messages?

Anyway I will keep trying. I don't care if they get flooded all the time! At least that will force them to change their email addresses! That serves them right!

Eureka, I also got this message from a Portuguese email address:

"This e-mail address (embpcai@link.net) was cancelled, please forward to a new e-mail address: embassy@cairo.dgaccp.pt"

Natasha, I sent a very angry and serious email to that Portuguese 'gentleman' who replied to you in such a rude manner.
I demanded that he would send you an email apologizing for his behaviour, otherwise I would file a complaint against him with the Portuguese authorities. So please let me know if he does!

I am also going to write to the king of Spain. It's going to be a personalized email and I have to mess with his feelings or it will all be for nothing.

I need someone who knows more about him to please give me details about his character, his weaknesses - for instance does he have pets? How long has the queen been a vegetarian? Things like those, in order for the email to have some sort of impact on him!

Thank you all and let's keep sending emails and making their lives miserable...

Blessed be!

Wednesday December 10, 2008, 4:02 pm
Cid, remember these email addresses are culled from the embassy web listings. Some of these email addresses are definitely 'bad' and will bounce like the one that says user not found. Just delete those from your 'saved' list. I have had trouble with my internet and have not been able to test all the mails - the connection's timing out, I'm waiting for the telephone company to fix the problem on my ADSL line. Once they are all tested, I'll post a clean list on mypage.

As for the re-directing of the one email: "This e-mail address (embpcai@link.net) was cancelled, please forward to a new e-mail address: embassy@cairo.dgaccp.pt" I WILL UPDATE MYPAGE TOMORROW. Too tired now, after 2AM here in SA.

So everyone, PLEASE just handle any bouncing back emails, just delete the messages from their postmasters. Cid you are not doing anything wrong!

Thank you my dear friend for taking the trouble to email these people.

I would just call the king of spain an arsehole, but lucky for him I can't speak Spanish, let alone write in Spanish. You will have to do the honours for me!

Hugs to all here, and thanks to the few new care2 members who have pledged to send the mails.

Thursday December 11, 2008, 1:51 am
Cid, I´m afraid I don´t follow what these or any other famous people do, what they like or who they marry and all that crap that so many people are interested in, so can´t help you much. I only look for the bad stuff they do, so I can protest. I´ve heard about the queen being a vegetarian for a long time, but I can´t vouch for that. And I do know that his son, 'his majesty the prince' Felipe (vomit) is a keen hunter, and so is his poxy wife. The king hunts, and attends and supports bullfights, though the queen does not.

I´m going to send you an email I sent him in response to the news of his hunting of bears, including mothers, and pregnant bears. I´m only sending it to you cause, clearly, I wrote it in Spanish so there would be no point in posting it here.

You are all angels.

Thursday December 18, 2008, 11:06 am
Hi,

Here's a reply I received from the embassy of Peru in Prague (Czech Republic):

from Embajada del Peru
date Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 8:09 AM
subject RE: Corrida de toros - por favor lea, es muy importante (Cid Martins - Portugal)
mailed-by post.cz
signed-by post.cz

VAYASE USTED AL CARAJO. LAS CORRIDAS DE TOROS SEGUIRAN POR SIEMPRE. SI A
USTED NO LE GUSTA NO VAYA Y PUNTO. AYUDE A MILLONES DE AFRICANOS QUE SE
MUEREN DE HAMBRE CADA DIA EN VEZ DE JODER CON UN TEMA QUE INTERESA A UNOS
CUANTOS "EVOLUCIONADOS" COMO USTED.

ATENTAMENTE,
YO MISMO

For those who don't speak Spanish, this guy is basically insulting me... and telling me to f*** o**!

And this is from someone who works in an embassy! Obviously I filed a complaint against this embassy with the Peruvian authorities.

I also sent an email to Gaspar da Silva, the 'gentleman' who replied to Natasha, and demanded he presented an apology to her for his rude reply. We exchanged emails and although he didn't insult me, he arrogantly refused to apologize. I also filed a complaint against him with the Portuguese authorities.

I'm posting this here for those who still have doubts regarding the level of evolution of people who defend and love bullfighting.
I mean, if these 'guys' who work in embassies behave like this, can you imagine if you went alone to a bullfight and protest against it? You would be lynched by those watching the barbaric show!

These are dangerous people. Don't be fooled by their looks or public social manners. Look, if someone enjoys watching a living creature being humiliated and tortured to death, then that someone can't be a good person at all!

Even though one can have a higher academic degree and social status it doesn't mean that person is an evolved being. Take these 2 examples - they should be intelligent, educated people. They obviously aren't!
However we must show these 'clowns' their arrogance doesn't scare us and that they aren't better than any one of us, on the contrary...

Thanks.

Thursday December 18, 2008, 4:20 pm
Hullo to everyone and especially Cid and Marisa: I've created an addition to my website - for all the information regarding the email campagin - the email lists are getting too big to put on my little Care2 profile! Marisa, I've borrowed some of the text on your Care2 page - it says it all so clearly and it saved me lots of time - the text is on the landing page of the website. Cid, these people are monstors - scum and the way the diplomats respond means we have a very long road to walk before we can change anything. Now that I've got a website up I will ask for backlinks from all the sites on the net that are advocating against bull fights. In this way we will get much more exposure! As each site agrees to a backlink I will add their links to our website. I have not had much time (hence so late with the extra emails - and still have a lot more to go) but at least we are now 'official'. I am going to post this again as a news article, linking directly to the website.

No one has responsed to your comment - so I assume no one is looking here anymore???. A new news story should light the dying embers (I hope).
LOVE AND HUGS TO EVERYONE!!!

Here is the URL - copy and paste into your browser.

http://www.animalsave.info/bull

Saturday January 3, 2009, 8:50 am
If there's still someone out there, please go to:

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/stop-so-called-traditional-bullfights

and sign a petition against bullfighting schools in France.

Thanks.

Saturday January 3, 2009, 1:34 pm
Thanks Cid, Signed, and I'm adding it to my profile page now.