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How Israel Legitimises Torturing Palestinians to Death


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Israel's policy of torture has left many dead and completely lacks accountability.



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Angelika R (143)
Thursday February 28, 2013, 6:51 pm
I would post it again if I could- but you know C2 won't let you if the source /URL is identical, even if the headline may differ. BUT there ARE Exceptions, just today I saw another post that I had previously submitted and it went through, despite being absolute identical. With the current sequester issue all US friends seem to be somewhat less interested in the ME topics now :(
Thx for the post! (We can of course circulate a message pointing to your post to our respective friends lists)
 

Angelika R (143)
Thursday February 28, 2013, 6:54 pm
reposting failed-as expected ( This story has already been submitted as How Israel Legitimises Torturing Palestinians to Death.)
 

Angelika R (143)
Thursday February 28, 2013, 6:59 pm
I tried using the al Jazeera URL-has already been submittet- Walter, 14 hrs ago!
http://www.care2.com/news/member/670803536/3539175 . will pass your post around via message .
 

Angelika R (143)
Thursday February 28, 2013, 7:24 pm
Sent out to almost all (skipped a few that I know would not come or are absent or are already your friends, too)
My today's post about The 9th Annual Israeli Apartheid Week 2013 Video and Actions did not get overwhelmingly noted or commented either. :(
 

JL A (281)
Thursday February 28, 2013, 7:55 pm
It sounds like a UN human rights investigation is long overdue.
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday February 28, 2013, 8:04 pm
I agree absolutely with JLA. Thanks for all the effort it took you Angelika to get this posted.
 

Angelika R (143)
Thursday February 28, 2013, 8:17 pm
My guess is that "for security reasons" they would not even let the UN investigate,-an organisation they -well HE- said could kiss their a%&/
 

Mike S (86)
Thursday February 28, 2013, 8:45 pm
Noted and shared.
 

Henriette M (154)
Thursday February 28, 2013, 8:48 pm
Damn Israhell & all their crimes on humanity & especially the Palestinians whom they stole their land. RIP Arafat & God Bless your widow & your children.
 

Animae C (506)
Friday March 1, 2013, 3:18 am
Horrifying, speechless, hell on earth... Israhell
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Abdessalam Diab (145)
Friday March 1, 2013, 5:57 am
1 - Torture of Palestinians under occupation by Israelis is as old as the occupation itself not to mention the terrorist attacks against Palestinians in and before 1948 by the organized Zionist gangs that forced Palestinians to leave their villages,towns,homes,land and properties and turn to be refugees here and there around the world. Physical pressure ( torture ) was always used during interrogations by The GSS (General Security Service/Shabak/Shin Bet). That fact appeared in an official report issued by an official Israeli committee called Landau Commission which was a three-man Commission set up by the Israeli Government in 1987 following a long-running scandal over the deaths of two Palestinian prisoners in custody and the wrongful conviction of a Circassian IDF officer. The Commission, headed by former Supreme Court Justice Moshe Landau, found that the GSS (General Security Service/Shabak/Shin Bet) interrogators routinely used physical force during the interrogation of prisoners and then committed perjury at subsequent trials. In its conclusion, approved by Cabinet in November 1987, it lay down guidelines for the use of a "moderate measure of physical pressure". The details of the recommended methods were described in the classified appendix to the report. In 1994 the UN Committee Against Torture stated: "The Landau Commission Report, permitting as it does 'moderate physical pressure' as a lawful mode of interrogation, is completely unacceptable to this Committee."

2 - In 1968 the International Committee for the Red Cross issued a report on Nablus Prison, one of the IDF's detention centers in the recently captured West Bank. It found:
"1. Suspension of the detainee by the hands and simultaneous traction of his other members for hours at a time until he loses consciousness.
2. Burns with cigarette stubs.
3. Blows by rods on the genitals.
4. Tying up and blindfolding for days.
5. Bites by dogs.
6. Electric shocks at the temples, the mouth, the chest and testicles."
( National Lawyers Guild. 1977 Middle East Delegation. "Treatment of Palestinians in Israeli-occupied West Bank and Gaza: report of the National Lawyers Guild 1977 Middle East Delegation." ISBN 0-9602188-2-3. 1978. Page 103. quoting UN Special Committee Report, Doc, A/8089 (1970), para. 107, p. 50.)
 

Abdessalam Diab (145)
Friday March 1, 2013, 6:28 am
3 - In 1969 As'ad Abdul Rahman published his account of his ten months in Israeli prisons in Sarafand, Jerusalem, Ramleh and Ramallah. He identifies Sarafand as an interrogation center. Methods used included: being stripped naked, beating, crushing of hands and fingers, being attacked by dogs, suspension by wrists or ankles, electric shocks, cigarette burns. He also describes the "refill of a dry ink pen or matches" being inserted into prisoner's penises, and a metal helmet covering the prisoners head and then being struck repeatedly.
( As'as Abdul Rahman, "Memoirs of a Prisoner." Palestine Monographs 51. Palestine Research Center. Beirut - Lebanon. February 1969. Pages 113, 114. )


4 - In February 1970 the United Nations Economic and Social Council issued a report which had two annexes containing evidence of the mistreatment of prisoners. Annex III is a medical report on a prisoner who had been so severely beaten around the groin that he no longer had testicles. Annex IV is a translation of a Swedish journalists interview with Felicia Langer. She describes the experience of women prisoner in Jerusalem. Also a detailed account of a 37 year old man held at Sarafand. He was blindfolded; beaten with rifle butts; confined in chains for two days in a toilet were he could neither sit nor stand; hung by his handcuffs; beaten on his feet, his hands, his genitals; one arm chained to the wall the other to a door which was then pulled repeatedly; threaten with large dog, electric shocks and execution. The prisoner was released after 17 days. He is quoted as saying that he had the same treatment in prison in Jordan.

( United Nation Economic and Social Council, E/CN.4/1016/Add.4. 18 February 1970. Report of the Special Working Group of Experts Established Under Resolution 6 (XXV) of the Commission on Human Rights. Annex III : "the scrotal sac is quite empty of all its normal contents." Annex IV : Article by Staffan Beckman.)

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Abdessalam Diab (145)
Friday March 1, 2013, 6:36 am
5 - In April 1970 Amnesty International published its "Report on the Treatment of Certain Prisoners under Interrogation in Israel." It concluded that there was "prima facia evidence of the serious maltreatment of Arab prisoners in Israel." A member of the Executive Committee said "We have rarely - if ever - had such reliable material on which to base the establishment of the fact in relation to torture taking place - or not taking place - in a particular country.

( National Lawyers Guild, page 105.)

6 - In 1972 the Israeli League for Human and Civil Rights, founded by Israel Shahak, issued a report on conditions in the Gaza Strip. They found that prisoners were stripped naked for long periods including during interrogation, and that prisoners had no contact with the outside for a least a month sometimes two or three. It list methods used as: a) Falaka (beating of the soles of feet). b) suspension by hands for long periods. c) holding a chair or arms above head for long periods. d) beating hands and fingers. e) leaving prisoners soaked in cold water. f) beating. g) slapping face.

( ILHR report issued 17 October 1972. Quoted in "Political Prisoners and Human Rights in Israel. An Union of Liberal Students Report" researched by Louis Eaks. Introduction Peter Hain/Andrew Ellis. Page 8.)

7 - In 1974 Israeli attorney Felicia Langer, and later another attorney Leah Tsemel, lodged cases with the Supreme Court against the use of torture by the GSS.

( Catherine Cook, Adam Hanieh and Adam Kay, "Stolen Youth." 2004. ISBN 0-7453-2161-5. Page 153 )
 

Abdessalam Diab (145)
Friday March 1, 2013, 6:37 am
more to come soon
 

Abdessalam Diab (145)
Friday March 1, 2013, 6:51 am
8 - In 1977 the London Sunday Times Insight team reported that torture was being used as a "systematic deliberate policy" in six detention centers, including a special camp at Sarafand. It describes "more refined techniques" being used: electric shocks and special "small" cells in which a prisoner cannot sit or stand.

( National Lawyers Delegation. Page 101. Quotes Sunday Times 19 June 1977. reporting on a five month investigation which identifies four prisons, a detention center and a military intelligence centre as being used for interrogation.)
( "Stolen Youth." Page 153. Describes the report as a 4 page article by two respected journalists following interviews with 44 Palestinians. It noted that torture was so "systematic that it cannot be dismissed as a handful of "rough cops" exceeding orders." )
9 - In 1978 the American National Lawyers Guild identified the following: beating of feet and sexual organs; burns by cigarettes; cutting body with razor blades; standing naked for long periods in hot or cold; drenching in hot or cold water; use of dogs; withholding food and blindfolding for long periods; insertion of bottles or sticks into anus; insertion of wire into penis; suspension from pulley; electric shocks.

( National Lawyers Guild, page 97.)
10 - In 1984 International Commission of Jurists published a report by Law in the Service of Man called "Torture and Intimidation in the West Bank - The case of al-Fara'a Prison." They had found that detainees were handcuffed and hooded for long periods, routinely beaten, kept in tiny cells "awash with filthy water", forced to masturbate, deprived of sleep and food, given cold showers and being forced to stand naked outside in rain at night.

( The International Commission of Jurists and Law in the Service of Man, "Torture and Intimidation in the West Bank. The case of al-Fara'a Prison." 1984. Pages 22,23. )


 

Abdessalam Diab (145)
Friday March 1, 2013, 7:03 am
11 - The first study of interrogation techniques following the Landau Commission was published in March 1991 by the Israeli Human Rights organisation B'tselem: "The Interrogation of Palestinians during the Intifada: Ill-Treatment, Moderate Physical Pressure or Torture?" Based on interviews with 41 prisoners the report concluded:

"A number of interrogation methods appear to be common, even routine in the group we interviewed. Virtually all our sample were subject to: verbal abuse, humiliation and threats of injury; sleep and food deprivation; hooding for prolonged periods; enforced standing for long periods, sometimes in an enclosed space, hands bound behind back and legs tied ("al-Shabah"); being bound in other painful ways (such as the "banana" position); prolonged periods of painful confinement in small specially constructed cells (the "closet" or "refrigerator") and severe and prolonged beatings on all parts of the body, resulting in injuries requiring medical treatment."
http://www.btselem.org/english/publications/summaries/199103_torture.asp

( Page 106 of the report, quoted in the Middle East Watch Report: "Prison Conditions in Israel and the Occupied Territories". April 1991. Pages 10,11.)


12 - A 2009 report by B'Tselem into the Shin Bet interrogation facility at Petah Tikva, based on testimony from 121 Palestinians, stated that: "In the interrogation room, detainees are forced to sit bound to a rigid chair unable to move, for hours and even days, causing intense pain in some cases. The hygienic conditions are appalling: detainees are sometimes denied showers and not given a change of clothes and toilet paper. At least some cells reek and have mould. The food is of poor quality and quantity, and detainees loose weight. During interrogation, detainees are exposed to threats, including threats against family members, and sometimes to violence. Other severe means include exposing the detainees to extreme heat and cold and depriving them of sleep."

http://www.btselem.org/english/publications/summaries/201010_kept_in_the_dark.asp: Page 60.
 

divergent revolution (309)
Friday March 1, 2013, 7:44 am
I personally don't believe in an eye for an eye, and I am not excusing torture...
all of the middle eastern countries need to stop this,as well as Israel
I know torture in syria is probably the worst in the world.
 

Süheyla C (234)
Friday March 1, 2013, 8:14 am
I'm sorry. It is very painful. As long as the people My God feed their egos. People forget the life lived in pain of themselves. My God Wants to eliminate the power of God gives crushed.
 

P A (117)
Friday March 1, 2013, 8:45 am
Words fail me - the horrors inflicted by the Shin Bet are beyond belief - the Nazis would be proud of them! ARGH!!!
 

Angelika R (143)
Friday March 1, 2013, 9:25 am
Can somebody PLEASE explain to me the PRECISE nature of this alledged threat and jeopardy Israel claims to be in to justify their unproportional security needs as a PERMANENT excuse?! And I certainly DON'T want to hear some suicide bombers- and rockets out of Gaza-stories because it makes no sense to discuss the hen-and-egg-principle! So, WHERE IS the permanent imminent danger ?????

I just cannot get over the fact that even Israel's High Court can get away with unlawful rulings AGAINST ALL INTERNATIONAL LAW and ith maintaining that "The GSS's impunity is absolute."
 

Angelika R (143)
Friday March 1, 2013, 9:44 am
Pat-you can sayTHAT again! Compare the duration of Nazi regime to these MULTIPLE DECADES of Israeli terror!!
 

Angelika R (143)
Friday March 1, 2013, 9:47 am
And not to forget: Nazi crimes were and still are prosecuted wherever revealed - Israel and the US stand ALONE with "legalized murder". How can that be!??
 

Vicky P (476)
Friday March 1, 2013, 10:17 am
this is so sad..and the world sits by, same with the UN and does nothing because they are controlled by US and Israeli interests.
 

penny C (83)
Friday March 1, 2013, 10:28 am
Very sad & wrong.
 

Sandrea S (278)
Friday March 1, 2013, 11:09 am
This truly sickens me. It's hard enough to read articles of abuse, but pictures really make the situation hit home.
Hopefully Crime Minister Harper will be gone some day, (soon at the hopes of most of my country), and Canada can return to being huge humanitarians again. I am among very many that are outraged that Harper associates with Zionists.
My thoughts are with all who suffer.
Thanks for sending, Vicky!
 

Angelika R (143)
Friday March 1, 2013, 12:07 pm
Very pleased to hear my friend Vicky did forward this, the post needs attention, no doubt.
 

Kathleen B (37)
Friday March 1, 2013, 12:16 pm
OMG, six broken bones in spine, arms & legs.
Arafat was tortured to death with complete impunity. I scorn your meaningless reason, "security" concerns to conceal their methods.
Your Methods, Oh 'israelis' are visible to those of us in this world not blinded by your deceitful propaganda.
Rebrand Israel, try your best but nothing will change until you throw your foolish, racist superior notions in the rubbish and join the world community as equals.

You've never tried to live in peace, I accuse you of coming to the Holy Land to dominate, not co-exist with the indigenous Palestinians. Doesn't every religion include "Do unto others" whatever phrases are used to convey Love they neighbor?

Come & join the human race, love others and they will reciprocate, it is promised.
 

Angelika R (143)
Friday March 1, 2013, 12:38 pm
You cannot currently send a star to Kate because you have done so within the last day.
 

Kathleen B (37)
Friday March 1, 2013, 12:39 pm
Abdessalam, thanks for your thoughtful organized posts.
They broke six of this man's bones.

and he had to sit in court with not an iota of medical attention or the common compassion of any reasonable human being.
There is no valid reason for torture, ever. Not to save my children, not to save myself, I want no torture of any kind dared to be performed in my name.

I've thought about this for my whole life, the ends do not justify the means.
Fruit from a poison tree is rubbish, no good can come of it, throw it away.
thank you. kate.
 

Nicole W (646)
Friday March 1, 2013, 12:52 pm
thank you for the forward Vicky. this is truly sickening. sharing this post.
 

Laura Mancuso (63)
Friday March 1, 2013, 1:42 pm
Sharing. Noted. Always glad to help.
 

Lee Hampton (15)
Friday March 1, 2013, 2:42 pm
But all of these people that have been tortured, killed, burned, shot in the head, blown up, stabbed by MUSLIMS ---- THAT'S OKAY, BECAUSE ISRAELI'S DIDN'T DO IT!

Yeah! Let's hear it for the Just Carole,Abdesalami and fiends hypocrites!
 

Abdessalam Diab (145)
Friday March 1, 2013, 2:50 pm
It is the STATE OF ISRAEL that is committing crimes against humanity. A big difference.
 

Abdessalam Diab (145)
Friday March 1, 2013, 2:54 pm
Not to mention the crimes by terrorist Zionist gangs like Stern or Oregon and before all the Zionist terrorist settlers and Mossad agents around the world.
 

. (0)
Friday March 1, 2013, 3:32 pm
Thank you Beth for going overboard on your posting. The posts from Germany and Egypt were pretty toxic.
 

AWAY AWHILE Cal Mendelsohn (1065)
Friday March 1, 2013, 3:39 pm
I wish for once someone would focus on the human rights abuses outside of Israel. Surely, China, the Sudan, SIngapore, Sri Lanka, Egypt, Iran, North Korea and other places have pernicious patterns of human rights abuses also, but somehow just Israel gets the lions share of attention. the places I mentioned are never discussed as if they are democracies where citizens get equal treatment under the law without any torture goiing on at all. FUnny how you never post information about abuses anywhere else.

.Double standards--you bet there are and those here who are guilty of it at Care2 should just acknowledge it and move on. You disgust me with your view that only Israeli human rights situations require monitoring--in fact, they all do, even and especially in many Arab countries where they are more rampant.
 

Angelika R (143)
Friday March 1, 2013, 4:30 pm
Cal, I for one reject this accusation, I DO follow, post and condemn any injustice wherever I see it as good as I can! I do NOT tolerate the insult by Lee ( whom I asked to apologize to me) on my post! ("Angelika, Hitler and fiends. What a cute group of anti-Semites.") I SHOULD actually flag this but want to leave a chance to apologize.
I am in no way anti -Semitic but I do condemn the pattern of violence and oppression disregarding every human right and international law that the GOVERNMENT of Israel has been exposing!
And I cannot see what's "toxic" about posting about an annual international event that can only support mutual understanding. The apartheid in Israel at this stage is indisputed.
 

Angelika R (143)
Friday March 1, 2013, 4:36 pm
Cal, perhaps I should also mention that those states you mention undoubtedly have massive human rights abuses against many of us protest just the same. But these countries do not claim to be "the only democracy"..(in the ME)
You can read in Haarez nearly on a daily basis how Israelis doubt their own democracy.
 

Sherri G (128)
Friday March 1, 2013, 4:42 pm
This treatment is unjust on so many levels. Victims of torture in WWII appear to now be the Victimizer. The hypocrisy is known but rarely reported. I had one American "friend"? who travels tell me but you should see how Palestinians live as though they choose to live in sub standard conditions. It really bothered me that this "friend"? travels but has not really learned a lot about the contributing factors to harsh living conditions in African American poor, Palestinian, African, Brazil, Mexican and so many more world communities. This person professes to be a Christian too. Tell me who did Christ hate? Shared.
 

Stan B (123)
Friday March 1, 2013, 5:04 pm
I posted this on another Israel-hate site but it looks as if Angelika didn't bother to read it so I'm posting it again.

Is Israel an apartheid state?

In the last few years, it’s become common to hear Israel called an “apartheid state” — a label that alleges that Israel maintains an oppressive legal system like the one once used in South Africa that institutionalized segregation, discrimination, and domination based on race.

Is there any truth to the charge? In apartheid-era South Africa, black citizens were totally disenfranchised, subject to oppressive laws that controlled every aspect of their behavior, and completely segregated from the ruling white minority. In Israel, on the other hand, Jewish and Arab citizens have equal protection under the law, enjoy freedom of religion and speech, and possess full voting rights. (In fact, Israel’s 120-member parliament, the Knesset, currently includes 12 Arab Israeli members.)

The Israel-South Africa comparison is so inapt that it would be laughable if it weren’t so insulting. What could possibly motivate those who apply this label and its evil connotations to the only democracy in the Middle East? Benjamin Pogrund, a South African Jew now living in Israel who saw firsthand the oppression and misery caused by the apartheid system in his native country, sums it up: “‘Apartheid’ is a lazy label for the complexities of the Middle East conflict. If it can be made to stick, then Israel can be made to appear to be as vile as was apartheid South Africa and, therefore, seeking its destruction can be presented to the world as an equally moral cause.”

Using human terms, Pogrund describes the vast difference between apartheid-era South Africa and Israel: “Two years ago, I had major surgery in a Jerusalem hospital,” he says. “The surgeon was Jewish, the anesthetist was Arab, the doctors and nurses who looked after me were Jews and Arabs. Jews and Arabs share meals in restaurants and travel on the same trains, buses and taxis, and visit each other’s homes. Could any of this possibly have happened under apartheid? Of course not.”

Those who protest “Israeli apartheid” usually have a noticeable lack of public indignation to express toward those countries and regions where real human rights violations are all too common. In Saudi Arabia, for example, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and freedom of assembly simply don’t exist and women are second-class citizens (and that’s being generous). In Iran, politically motivated killings and kidnappings are common, ethnic and religious minorities harshly repressed, and freedom of the press is non-existent. In Zimbabwe, government security forces imprison, torture, and murder opponents. In Hamas-controlled Gaza, as well as parts of the West Bank controlled by the Palestinian Authority, a residual community of Christians is regularly harassed, intimidated, and even subject to murder by radical Islamists. During 2009, the regimes in both Gaza and Saudi Arabia expressed their approval of crucifixion as a punishment under the law.

But those who protest “Israeli apartheid” are silent about all that. Why? Because their real agenda is not to improve the plight of Palestinians, but rather to attack Israel. The “apartheid” slur is just another tool for Israel’s enemies to delegitimize and undermine the Jewish state’s right to exist. The comparison of Israel, the Middle East’s only democracy, to the brutal discrimination of a fallen, evil regime is false. Those who offer it simply reveal their own agenda.
 

Vicky P (476)
Friday March 1, 2013, 6:09 pm
Cal, who in the world are you talking to. I follow all countries on their human rights, women's rights, and been to a lot of countries, so really. Don't assume.
 

Jason S (50)
Friday March 1, 2013, 7:28 pm
Good posting, thanks
 

Kathleen B (37)
Friday March 1, 2013, 9:12 pm
I have yet to notify my friend list, sorry, go right now & do it.
 

Ellyn S (48)
Friday March 1, 2013, 9:50 pm
Noted. I sent this article to my local newspaper.
 

P A (117)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 1:51 am
For those who feel that it is fine if a state should turn to torture and ignore the rule of law - and feel this because of the horrors committed by some Palestinians - have you never heard "An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind."

If a state turns to torture and ignores the rule of law then it is morally bankrupt - wherever it is in the world and whatever name it has.
 

Arild Gone for now (174)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 2:17 am
FREE PALESTINE !!! and to the USA:Stop supporting the Israeli thoughs.
 

Nimue Michelle Pendragon Gaze (339)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 2:26 am
Noted.
 

Lynn D (0)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 3:08 am
noted
 

Abdessalam Diab (145)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 5:35 am
Stan B. in his comment wanted to say that compared to South Africa,Israel is not an apartheid state. I here would like to draw his attention and those like him, who deny the fact that Israel is an apartheid state, to an article by Alon Liel . Who is Alon Liel ? He is a former Israel's foreign ministry director general and an ex-ambassador of Israel to South Africa. As this is the case,the man is an Israeli official who represented his country in South Africa. He lived the experience in Apartheid South Africa and Apartheid Israel. This is his testimony which was published in " The Times of Israel on February 21,2013 > Please read :

" THE TIMES OF ISRAEL" on February 21, 2013 .


Former Foreign Ministry director-general invokes South Africa comparisons
‘Joint Israel-West Bank’ reality is an apartheid state

By RAPHAEL AHREN February 21, 2013, 12:59 pm

As long as there is no Palestinian state and Israel rules over the West Bank, Israel is a de facto apartheid state, a former top Foreign Ministry official said Wednesday, using a highly contentious term usually employed only by radical anti-Israel activists.

Alon Liel, a former Foreign Ministry director-general and ex-ambassador to South Africa, also called on President Barack Obama to stay home if he didn’t intend to warn Israelis about the dangers of an approaching “apartheid cliff.”

“In the situation that exists today, until a Palestinian state is created, we are actually one state. This joint state — in the hope that the status quo is temporary — is an apartheid state,” Liel said at a Jerusalem conference about whether Israel is or could become an apartheid state.

“As someone who knows the original apartheid well, and also knows the State of Israel quite well – I was born here, grew up here, served and fought for it for 30 years — someone like me knows that Zionism isn’t apartheid and the State of Israel that I grew up in wasn’t an apartheid state,” Liel emphasized.

“I’m here today because I came to the conclusion that the occupation of the West Bank as it exists today is a sort of Israeli apartheid,” said Liel. “The occupation became a hump on the back of Zionism; it has now become the hump of the State of Israel.”

There is a real danger of Israel’s occupation of the West Bank becoming an integral part of the state, he said. “When that happens, when the West Bank and [Israel in the pre-1967 lines] become one, and the Palestinian residents of the West Bank will not have citizenship — we’re apartheid,” he said.

Similarities between the “original apartheid” as it was practiced in South Africa and the situation in Israel and the West Bank today “scream to the heavens,” added Liel, who was Israel’s ambassador in Pretoria from 1992 to 1994. There can be little doubt that the suffering of Palestinians is not less intense than that of blacks during apartheid-era South Africa, he asserted.

‘You cannot come to an area that exhibits signs of apartheid and ignore them. That would simply be an unethical visit’
Addressing Obama’s upcoming Middle East visit, Liel said that just as Americans feared the so-called fiscal cliff a few months ago, they and Israelis should be aware of an Israeli apartheid cliff.

“If you, President Obama, intend to come here for a courtesy visit — don’t come. Don’t come! We don’t need you here for a courtesy visit,” Liel said. “You cannot come to an area that exhibits signs of apartheid and ignore them. That would simply be an unethical visit. You yourself know full well that Israel is standing at the apartheid cliff. If you don’t deal with this topic during your visit, the responsibility will at the end of the process also lie with you.”

Wednesday’s remarks were not the first time that Liel — who served as the ministry’s director-general from November 2000 to April 2001 — has condemned Israel’s policies vis-à-vis the Palestinians. Last summer, he told The Times of Israel that he supports cultural boycotts of Israel and that he himself started boycotting goods produced in the West Bank three years ago to protest the lack of progress in the peace negotiations.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/joint-israel-west-bank-reality-is-an-apartheid-state/

Do you feel shy Stan B. ?
 

AWAY AWHILE Cal Mendelsohn (1065)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 7:01 am
One need only look at how Egypt treats Coptic Christians to see the need ofr more human rights coverage and fairer coverage on Care2. And Abdessalam, you sure don't feel shy about criticizing other countries, when yours is badly in need of a massive repair to its social and political actions in terms of human rights! Try focusing there for once!
 

AWAY AWHILE Cal Mendelsohn (1065)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 7:07 am
Angelika, there are people who comment here whose full extent of concern for human rights rests with what occurs in Israel and they have no interest in exposing or objecting to human rights abuses elsewhere. If that shoe fits, I say wear it!

As a great poster of articles here I feel that it's great to post articles on all situations and issues, but when it comes to human rights, it always seems to be Israel that takes the major criticism. That's just not fair and balanced or the truth even.

By the way, I disagree with you about Israeli apartheid; it is a regional problem. Do you think the palestinians in Lebanon, who are legally bound to live in the refugee camps there, are not marginalized and isolated in an "apartheid" imposed by the Lebanese government Come on now!

It's best to remember ALWAYS that human rights are for everyone or for no one.
 

Elizabeth Fuller (134)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 7:39 am
This is criminal, the immensity of breaches of human rights is by far the worst I have heard of. The hearts of the perpetrators are black. Those whom inflict pain on the innocent will soon meet with their own pain. May those who are wrong doing be haunted day and night by the atrocities they commit. Israel...DAMN YOU!!! Shame on those whom do not take action for human rights. Of ALL peoples, they should know about persecution, yet they have become the persecutors...how quickly they forget. Sad....Devils without conscience....Shame.
 

Terrie Williams (798)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 11:40 am
All countries, or their governments need to stop torturing people no matter which country is doing it and to whom. It is wrong on so many levels. But, no one with a brain can now say that Israel is justified in anything it does concerning Palestinians. Torture is torture and it is being condoned by the Israeli courts. It all needs to stop on all sides irregardless of who is doing what on any given day. It is wrong no matter who does it. Grow the **** up and stop killing eachother and settle the differences peacefully. If they cannot do that then at least stop trying to annihilate eachother, otherwise there will be no one left to worry about who owns what or who is living where.

The UN should investigate ANY and ALL countries who are condoning and participating in torture, no matter what nation it is.
 

Angelika R (143)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 11:57 am
I am inviting everyone-particularly those who assume Palestinians /Arabs/Muslims to know violence only, to visit this post by my friend! learn about another PEACEFUL protest action!

United By Loss, Israeli & Palestinian Dads Call for Joint Nonviolent Intifada Against Occupation
http://www.care2.com/news/member/597720583/3540060
 

Angelika R (143)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 12:20 pm
Cal, thanks for revisiting and responding. No, that shoe does NOT FIT ME! And I am not even convinced that your partly justified criticism was directed especially at me.
It is true, you ARE a great poster and I have always admired and respected all of your submissions, standing out in both numbers and diversity! Unfortunately, like most, I do not have the time to post this much so like most others, I use the topics offered by email and online as well as offline daily news.

It so happens that the spotlight in reporting regularly IS on the Israel/ Palestine conflict and issue and not so much on all others in other regions.
As for Israel's treatment of Palestinian prisoners, it certainly plays an important role to consider Jewish fate, which makes understanding, let alone accepting much harder, as Elizabeth and Sherri pointed out above.
I hope we can agree to disagree on matters, Israel's apartheid policy being one. It was not me coining this term but as Abdessalam already cited just one of many voices, the wider perception happens to be that.
 

Kathleen B (37)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 1:47 pm
Angelika, I'm so glad to see this getting the attention it deserves. Thank you & all the contributers showing what numbers can do. You are an inspiration, and such a hard worker. Hope this success continues,expands, We can make change happen. wow.
 

Sheryl G (360)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 1:47 pm
I don’t support torture. I think torture is immoral. I think government officials who ordered or condoned torture should be held accountable, no matter what Country is doing it, that includes USA. Torture crosses a line that should not be crossed.

Americans write to your Representatives and inform them that with cutbacks to our own people in education, First Responders, infrastructure, Food Stamps, and various other areas, that you don't want your taxes to support any Country that condones torture. Put the pressure on.

 

Kathleen B (37)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 2:06 pm
I am so sad at Arafat's ordeal, I want to scream, scream Six Broken Bones, how does the world continue to evade their eyes from this continuous persecution.
Six broken bones, head down shaking rhythmically no as I finger the keyboard in feeling so much sadness for all the people undergoing torture, beaten to death for 'policy reasons' beaten to keep the people frightened, they do it to mollify the racists with what brutal bullies they still know how to break six bones in a poor man's body, before dragging him, shackled to the Court of Law.

Are they serious? security reasons is unacceptable to any rational human being, There is no acceptable reason in the world for the US gov. to torture anybody, ever.
 

Mónica Ayuga (109)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 7:14 pm
YO NO SOY PARCIAL SOBRE ESTE TEMA, PARA MI LOS PALESTINOS SIEMPRE HAN SIDO Y SIEMPRE SERÁN LAS VICTIMAS, SÓLO HAY QUE VER LAS NOTICIAS PARA VER LA CANTIDAD DE MUERTES DE INOCENTES PALESTINOS, PRINCIPALMENTE LOS NIÑOS, QUE SE PRODUCEN EN COMPARACIÓN CON LOS ISRAELÍES !!
 

Alexander Werner (53)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 8:07 pm
If that Arafat would not go to stone Israelis, he would be much better off today.

He was his own enemy. Arab nationalists and Islamic fanatics has to stop dreaming about destroying Israel and be busy of making up their own lives, instead of hurting Israelis.
 

Alexander Werner (53)
Sunday March 3, 2013, 6:43 am
David Buchan posted another piece from the hate site "information clearing house". As usual, they lie through the teeth and hide what really happened.

Islamist apologists know it full well, but will still support a terrorist just because he was an Arab fighting Jews. Same Islamist apologists never shed a tear about tens of thousands of Arabs, killed by other Arabs.

What a racist approach to justice!

 

Leslie G (79)
Sunday March 3, 2013, 7:46 am
Sad and unforgivable..Noted, shared and tweeted..TY
 

Abdessalam Diab (145)
Sunday March 3, 2013, 9:33 am
I don't read or speak Spanish. That is why I had to use Google translation to translate and understand what Monica Ayuga had posted here on Saturday march 2,2013 at 7:14 pm. I liked her comment and think that many others will like it. So to those who don't know Spanish this is what she posted translated by Google.

"I AM NOT STAY ON TOPIC FOR MY Palestinians have always been and always will be the victims, just look at the news to see the number of deaths of innocent Palestinians, mainly children, occurring COMPARED WITH ISRAELI! !"

A green star to Monica Ayuga. She deserves more than just a green star for her courage the same way many others do deserve. Thanks Monica. Thanks to all those who supported the Palestinians and condemned the torture committed by the state of Israel.
 

Abdessalam Diab (145)
Sunday March 3, 2013, 10:10 am
Cal who describes himself as " a great poster of Articles here " writes blaming us for concentrating on Israel's violation of human rights and giving a blind eye to violations in other countries. He also talks about the inhuman situation of the Palestinian refugees in Lebanon and blames Arabs for this situation instead of blaming Zionists who terrified,killed and kicked Palestinians from their villages,towns,farms.houses,properties before and after 1948 and has stolen ,and still stealing,their land to replace them with Zionists from around the world.I still wonder whom to blame ?
As for opposing Egyptian violators of human right,I assure him that I am against any violation of human rights anywhere specially in Egypt. I think he may have noticed that I have signed many of the petitions he posted.I also signed petitions about Tebet,Darfur,China,Saudi Arabia,Honor killing,stoning women,Egyptian Christians.....etc One of my latest posts was against the Egyptian president himself.

President Morsi of Egypt ...Why Mohamed ElGendi Died ? Stop Police Brutality. Take Action


http://www.care2.com/news/member/602821732/3527979

I am not a great poster of articles here but I am also a modest person .

 

M B (62)
Sunday March 3, 2013, 11:36 am
Cal is a Zionist himself - what do you expect ? I hope the U.S. stops supporting Israel. Poor Arafat, he didn't deserve to be tortoured. My sympathy goes out to the victims .
 

AWAY AWHILE Cal Mendelsohn (1065)
Sunday March 3, 2013, 4:53 pm
Monka, I am a proud Zionist, and I've never represented myself as anything else. How many of his own people and political rivals did Arafat torture?

I do agree to disagree with you, Angelika, but am personally glad you posted this article..all points of view should always be represented.
 

Abdessalam Diab (145)
Monday March 4, 2013, 6:20 am
I have devoted the rest of my life to publish facts about Zionists and their crimes against humanity and I am proud of this job. I am also proud of all brave people who raise their voice without fear and tell the truth about the Zionist entity . To Those people I am grateful .
 

Abdessalam Diab (145)
Monday March 4, 2013, 6:22 am
Thanks Angelika for this post and your courage. Honest people will never be silenced .
 

Sandrea S (278)
Monday March 4, 2013, 7:20 am
Well said, Abdessalam!

I agree:
"Thanks Angelika for this post and your courage. Honest people will never be silenced ."
 

Abdessalam Diab (145)
Monday March 4, 2013, 10:38 am
Racial segregation or transportation mitigation? The Transportation Ministry announced that starting Sunday it will begin operating designated lines for Palestinians in the West Bank.

The bus lines in question are meant, according to the ministry, to transport Palestinian workers from the West Bank to central Israel. The ministry alleges that the move is meant to ease the congestion felt on bus lines used by Jews in the same areas, but several bus drivers told Ynet that Palestinians who will choose to travel on the so-called "mixed" lines, will be asked to leave them.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4351368,00.html
 

Abdessalam Diab (145)
Monday March 4, 2013, 10:47 am
starting next week, there will be checks at the checkpoint, and Palestinians will be asked to board their own buses," a driver with Afikim – the company that holds the routes franchise for the area – told Ynet.
 

Sandrea S (278)
Monday March 4, 2013, 12:06 pm
Another excerpt from Abdessalam's segregation news above:

The volatile nature of the decision was not lost on the driver: "Obviously, everyone will start screaming 'apartheid' and 'racism' now. This really doesn’t feel right, and maybe (the ministry) should find a different solution, but the situation right now is impossible."

Apartheid. Hmm, where did we hear that before...
 

Angelika R (143)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 10:47 am
Abderssalam, yes, this new Bus subject has hit the MSM, saw a report on CNN just yesterday. Another measure perfectly suited to justify the term "apartheid", no matter how much Israel claims it is meant for relief of Palestinians. Experience has proven this wrong!
 

Barbara W (342)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 10:48 am
This is one "Wake Up Call" America, that's taking US too long! Americans are better then this. "We" do not support what our wayward leaders are doing in our name.

Are some of US so blind "We" don't get it? This abuse, this cruel and unusual punishment, should "WE" not get a handle on it, is coming to a neighborhood near you or I.. Time is running out!

Excerpt: "Six days after Arafat Jaradat was arrested by the Israeli army and the Shin Bet, he was dead. Between the date of his arrest - February 18 - and the day of his death - February 23 - his lawyer Kamil Sabbagh met with Arafat only once: in front of a military judge at the Shin Bet's Kishon interrogation facility.

Sabbagh reported that when he saw Jaradat, the man was terrified. Arafat told his lawyer that he was in acute pain from being beaten and forced to sit in stress positions with his hands bound behind his back.

When it announced his death, Israeli Prison Service claimed Arafat - who leaves a pregnant widow and two children - died from cardiac arrest. However, the subsequent autopsy found no blood clot in his heart. In fact, the autopsy concluded that Arafat, who turned 30 this year, was in fine cardiovascular health.

What the final autopsy did find, however, was that Jaradat had been pummelled by repeated blows to his chest and body and had sustained a total of six broken bones in his spine, arms and legs; his lips lacerated; his face badly bruised."

This is only one man, Arafat Jaradat, but there have been many men, women and even children who through no fault of their own have fallen victim to this madness. They all have names, families, and they all held dreams yet realized..

Many, at this very moment, languish in Israeli prisons with nary a peep from the international community..WHY????

Thousands have fallen victim, not only to torture and death but that outrageous abuse which "Dare" rapes "The Human Spirit"

Barbara/founder/dtdn.net

airing soon, Pulse Radio www.RumbleofthePeople.com

"When Dreams Die, So Goes Greatness"
 

Barbara W (342)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 11:19 am
Thank you Abdessalam for sharing this with me..

One day soon, I pray, "We" will be sharing a positive change of events in the lives of the people of Palestine. The Palestinians have been made to suffer at the hands of hypocrites, gr$$dy liars and murderers.. Judgments been out to lunch for many years now but judgment is getting ever closer. The world is becoming a smaller place and more people are awakening to this God awful issue..

Israel MUST face sanctions! Israel MUST be forced to open it's nuclear facilities to a MAJOR investigation! Israel MUST allow peaceful activist into the Gaza, all areas where Palestinians are imprisoned, to evaluate the conditions Palestinians are forced to live under.

Israel is not above the law of God or man any more then those Americans who back this countries crimes against humanity are. Time for a reckoning. And I believe that it's just around the corner.

I have said this many times and I "Dare" say it again..

People of faith, those who feel they cannot go against Israel, wake up! Your actions are not based on biblical truth because as long as you support the Murdering of children or anyone for that matter, support the ripping off of Palestinian lands, you are breaking Commandments and that believers, IS Gods Law..
 

Ameer T (24)
Monday April 15, 2013, 4:10 am
Media brands Islam as Satanic, Muslims as Barbarians and gives Israel and U.S the right to kill and Torture them without guilt and consequences. Israel wants Muslim lands and U.S wants mulsim Oil. U.S citizens want to be left alone as long as this is happening to some other people.
 
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