START A PETITION 25,136,189 members: the world's largest community for good
START A PETITION
x

Assange Mother: I'M Terrified of What US Will Do to Julian


World  (tags: Julian Assange, Christine Assange, Australia, UK, Sweden, USA, Equador, asylum, Mother, E )

Dandelion
- 705 days ago - youtube.com
This to me is an important video for it not only shows the heart of a Mother but she gives a lot of information on here. I feel many American citizens do not fully grasp many things about their own Country. I hope her words will shed some light.



Select names from your address book   |   Help
   

We hate spam. We do not sell or share the email addresses you provide.

Comments

Sue D. (156)
Monday October 15, 2012, 7:34 pm
I agree with her - this is absolutely political, an Assange is being unjustly accused. Whistle blowing is NOT and should never be illegal.
 

Eternal Gardener (743)
Monday October 15, 2012, 7:48 pm
If anything, we could do with a lot more Julians in the world! Subsequently must admit not happy with my own government...

Thank you Dandelion, for keeping track on news of him, really appreciated!
 

Brian M. (156)
Monday October 15, 2012, 9:42 pm
The American people are supposedly a just people; why then does our government do so much evil in our names?
 

Giana Peranio-Paz (384)
Monday October 15, 2012, 11:32 pm
It is so important that there exist such brave people in the world, how else would we be exposed to what really goes on! Enough being ostriches, sticking our head in the sand, trying to ignore reality!
 

Diane B. (275)
Monday October 15, 2012, 11:35 pm
noted thanks dear
 

Rose NoFWDSPLZ (273)
Monday October 15, 2012, 11:43 pm
FREE HIM
 

Rose NoFWDSPLZ (273)
Monday October 15, 2012, 11:46 pm
I am Australian and I believe that if Julian ends up in the U.S He will be put on death row

and for what telling the world the truth
 

Arild Warud (166)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 2:57 am
I can't see anything newsworthy here,just a loving mother talking about her son.
 

Donnaa D. (13)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 4:49 am
i'm ambivelant
 

Donnaa D. (13)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 4:50 am
i meant ambivalent!
 

Jennifer C. (172)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 5:01 am
Thanks.
 

Dandelion G. (382)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 5:56 am
PETITIONS FOR JULIAN's FREEDOM
FREE JULIAN

In Support of Julian Assange

In Support For Asylum for Julian
 

Dandelion G. (382)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 6:07 am
Sorry you feel that way Arild, a lot of people might not know of David Hicks of whom she speaks of, the expensive fiber optics going into a facility that is suppose to be closing *wink wink*, for those that stayed with the video at the 11 minute mark she speaks about the Haiti cable of deceitful things that were going on during the earthquake is I feel something that the American people, as well as others should be aware of. They can investigate further into it, so yes, the Mother is pleading for her son, but there is offerings from her words that I felt were certainly news worthy.
 

Patricia Cannell (751)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 6:59 am
Noted and signed the petitions you gave D. Thanks for sharing!! FYI - I flagged the Wha Sha as inappropriate. Can't stand those sale ads here!
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 7:01 am
Noted and signed,thanks my dear friend.
 

Roger M. (0)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 7:07 am
I may be in a minority of one here, but I'm a dissenting voice.

Mr Assange is holed up in an embassy here in London (now and forever, it seems) because he doesn't want to go to Sweden to face rape charges. Is anyone here advocating that someone who's accused of rape should not answer police questioning? Please feel free to answer.

He's broken the conditions of his bail and the people who put up money for his bail are having to pay out very large sums of money. I notice there's not been a post about this on this site.

Neither Britain or Sweden would ever extradite someone to America if they thought there was the remotest possibility of that person receiving a death sentence. Get the thought out of your heads. It's impossible.

I hope you'll forgive my saying so, but Americans seem to have an exaggerated sense of their involvement in all this. This is primarily between the UK and Sweden. Londoners have had enough of the guy and we want him out.
 

Dandelion G. (382)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 7:26 am
Kristina, what does that link you put on here go to?

I tried to find out and my computer gave me a WARNING not to open.

Please come back on here to explain. I also notice you placed the same link on a totally different subject matter on one of Cal's, so it is the same link to two very different stories.

WARNING C2 MEMBERS......Please read my comment here.
 

Abdessalam Diab (154)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 8:25 am
Thank you Cheryl ..Kristina's link reported as suspicious.
 

Dandelion G. (382)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 8:48 am
I will answer you Roger on here. I haven't seen anyone on this thread nor on C2 ever advocating for rape and I feel that is a bit harsh to throw out there to the C2 general audiance. Most of us work tirelessly for many social justice causes on C2 as well as off C2.

Earlier this year, British authorities obtained a court order authorizing them to extradite Assange to Sweden for questioning in a sexual molestation case.

Assange took refuge in Ecuador's London embassy a few days before his extradition was due to occur and Ecuador last week offered him permanent asylum. British authorities have indicated Assange will be arrested if he leaves the embassy.

If Londoners have had enough of Julian, then perhaps the UK could work quietly to allow him to go to Equador as he seems to be wanted there. It is true that chance of Sweden releasing him to the USA might be remote, as per the information stated below by the Swedish Justice Ministry, but in a "political" football which Julian has found himself in, I'd wouldn't want to risk my life with American politicians asking for his head on a platter.

Cecilia Riddseleus, a senior official of Sweden's Justice Ministry, said Sweden had received no extradition request from U.S. authorities, though she added, "it could come at any point" if U.S. authorities decided to go ahead.

If Sweden took custody of Assange from Britain and then received a U.S. extradition request, Stockholm would have to go back to Britain to seek its permission before acting, she said.

Swedish law, she said, forbids extradition in cases where the accused might face execution or where the alleged crimes could be deemed "political."

So whether Julian is guilty or innocent, would you want to risk going anywhere for fear it "might" lead to your death or torture in particular as no charges have yet been placed upon you for anything? Whether Americans are justified or not in their involvement in this case, the Leadership of the United States has made itself known, and the USA has a lot of power to flex, rightly or wrongly.

I can't help but think that with the zeal that so many wanted to proceed on this, and Julian has yet to be charged, that this one rape case is given so much precidence while millions of women in many Countries are raped every day and get little to no help in the situation. Assange has made it clear for months that he is available for questioning by the Swedish authorities, in Britain or via Skype. Why are they refusing this essential step to their investigation? What are they afraid of? Why must he be flown to Sweden, it all seems rather "political" in nature to me.

Whether or not Assange is guilty of sexual violence, many people do not believe that is why he is being pursued. Once again women, rape and other violence against women, is being used by politicians to advance their own purposes. Authorities around the world have shown little care about violence against women but when it's convenient to them they manipulate rape allegations at will, usually to increase their powers, this time to facilitate Assange's extradition or even rendition to the US.

In 1998 Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet was arrested in London following an extradition request from Spain. His responsibility for the murder and disappearance of at least 3,000 people, and the torture of 30,000 people, including the rape and sexual abuse of more than 3,000 women often with the use of dogs, was never in doubt.

Despite a lengthy legal action and a daily picket outside parliament called by Chilean refugees, including women who had been tortured under Pinochet, the British government reneged on its obligation to Spain's criminal justice system and Pinochet was allowed to return to Chile. Assange has not even been charged; yet the determination to have him extradited is much greater than ever it was with Pinochet.

Why is that?








 

Joe R. (189)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 9:46 am
Great man. Great Mom! Thanks for the petition links. Signed.
 

Arielle S. (317)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 10:29 am
You cannot currently send a star to Dandelion because you have done so within the last week. - but a shower to you, Dandelion, both for this article and for your response to Roger. Most of us know the so-called "rape" charges are merely an excuse to get their hands on Assange. Sadly, too many Americans like being in the dark about the things our government is doing or has done and are too ready to shoot the messenger instead of paying attention to what he says.
 

Vivien Green (150)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 11:06 am
Thank you danelion signed all three petitions.
 

Edwin M. (366)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 11:31 am
Sadly we and when I say we I mean our government have become what we detested in other countries.
 

Ana R (220)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 11:39 am
Gladly done... with hope
Thank you Dandelion!
 

Liliana D. (124)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 12:09 pm
petitions signed
first of all he should be free and safe and only after that he should answer the charges against him
 

Nancy C. (798)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 12:15 pm
Turning a hero into a criminal is certainly transparent. Guilty parties are twisting human rights into grotesque distortions. And what is wrong and/or trivial with a brave mother's descriptions and opinions? This is interesting and informative.Thank you Sheryl...
 

Roger M. (0)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 12:30 pm
Thanks for the lengthy reply, Dandelion.

Of course no-one here is in favour of rape. I did not and would not suggest that they did. We're all in favour of investigating allegations of rape, right? Or just sometimes when we feel it's appropriate?

We can't let him go to Equador, much as we'd like to. Under British and European law he's wanted in Sweden to answer questions on rape allegations and we have no option but to extradite him. There's no choice in the matter.

I can assure you that no-one was more furious than I was about having to release Pinochet. But I remind you that the decision was made that he was incapable of standing trial on medical grounds. It was maddening beyond words but, again, that's the law and it applies to everyone equally. I don't really see what his case has to do with Assange or the point you're making on this.

I know you and the other people who've responded here are good people and I'm sure we'd agree on 99.9% of other issues, but I just can't go with consensus on this one. But that's okay. I respect your views and wish you well.

 

Roger M. (0)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 12:51 pm
P.S. I have to add that, as he's broken the terms of his bail agreement he's also committed a crime under British law and our own police will want to charge him on this matter should he ever leave the embassy.
 

Kit B. (276)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 1:06 pm

Roger rape is not and cannot be between consulting adults. The women that have brought charges against Assange are not actually accusing him of rape, rather a lesser used charged that I as I understand, was meant to protect prostitutes from AIDS and HIV; not using a condom. Forgive me for not get getting to upset about this charge which reeks of political motivations.

Kudos to Assange's mother for speaking out at a time when she might indeed bring down many political forces on herself.

I read the Wiki Leads when they were released to the Internet. Again, there was little in those documents that could be considered betrayal or release of information that gave the "enemy" any information. They was some information that was clearly embarrassing to many diplomats and even a few royals. If that is the standard for pursuing any one to the degree that Assange has been subjected to; then should the photographers that snap pictures of these same people not also be endlessly subject to persecution?
 

Christopher Fowler (84)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 2:01 pm
If she really cared about her son, she shouldn't have raised him to be a rapist. I could care less about his Wikileaks stuff; the criminal charges are for real crimes, not for outing criminals in our own government.
 

Roger M. (0)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 2:24 pm
Just to clarify, Kit: plaintiff 1 alleges that he had sex with her without a condom after she insisted that he use one. Plaintiff 2 alleges that he had sex with her while she was asleep, again without a condom.

I have to say that this doesn't sound like sex between consenting adults to me, though perhaps you would beg to differ. I think Mr Assange should be giving his account of what happened. Again, others don't seem to agree with me on this. Fair enough.
 

Lauren Kozen (159)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 2:39 pm
Noted & Petitions Signed. Thanks for posting Dandelion.
 

Gary A L. (134)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 2:54 pm
Thanks dandelion Julian has offered to be interviewed at the embassy they refused for all you tools who spout your garbage please educate yourselves before your spew your hate
 

Iona Kentwell (134)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 3:00 pm
In Australia whistle blowers are protected by law. Sexual offenders are not. I understand the concern that the US has an interest in Julian, however as far as I know there have been no charges laid against him as yet in the US and Sweden will not send someone to a situation where their life is in danger. I know Mr Assange represents freedom of speech and information for many people. It seems to me that he is all too willing to hold other's to account for their misdeeds, he should be willing to be held account for his. Sweden certainly does not have a reputation for a dodgy or unfair legal system, it should be allowed to follow it's course. If the US ever does request for extradition then that can be addressed and I suggest that Sweden is a better place than many to be at a time like that.
 

Pat B. (354)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 3:06 pm
Thank you, Dandelion for these three posts.!!! I have signed all petitions for Julian.
 

Dandelion G. (382)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 3:09 pm
Christopher you have him accused as a rapist for which he has no official charge yet upon him. There is suspicions of. Are we not innocent until proven guilty?

We can hash this over as to the line of rape or not rape on here but that should be left to the courts, the evidence, and the Country in which it occured. I know a Mr. Galloway caused a big firestorm when he said, "Not everybody needs to be asked prior to each insertion. Some people believe that when you go to bed with somebody, take off your clothes, and have sex with them and then fall asleep, you're already in the sex game with them. It might be really bad manners not to have tapped her on the shoulder and said, 'Do you mind if I do it again?' It might be really sordid and bad sexual etiquette, but whatever else it is, it is not rape or you bankrupt the term rape of all meaning."

Again, if they would like Julian's side of the story, why could it not be done where he was with Officials from the UK and Sweden there, or via Skype, he is willing to be wired, there are ways around this, that could move the process forward on the sexual case be it rape, sexual molestation, sexual misconduct, or if it even happened at all, without it feeding him to the hands of others who could care less about the sexual situation but just want his head on the platter for what he did with the wiki leaks.

So you may care less Christopher about the wiki leaks, but the USA cares very much; and the other crime, if there was one, shouldn't hold a potential death sentence, life imprisonment or torture for him. I believe if we are to hold humanitarian standards we protect all the humans involved while the truth and information is sought out.

You are welcome Roger.
 

Dandelion G. (382)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 3:10 pm
Christopher you have him accused as a rapist for which he has no official charge yet upon him. There is suspicions of. Are we not innocent until proven guilty?

We can hash this over as to the line of rape or not rape on here but that should be left to the courts, the evidence, and the Country in which it occured. I know a Mr. Galloway caused a big firestorm when he said, "Not everybody needs to be asked prior to each insertion. Some people believe that when you go to bed with somebody, take off your clothes, and have sex with them and then fall asleep, you're already in the sex game with them. It might be really bad manners not to have tapped her on the shoulder and said, 'Do you mind if I do it again?' It might be really sordid and bad sexual etiquette, but whatever else it is, it is not rape or you bankrupt the term rape of all meaning."

Again, if they would like Julian's side of the story, why could it not be done where he was with Officials from the UK and Sweden there, or via Skype, he is willing to be wired, there are ways around this, that could move the process forward on the sexual case be it rape, sexual molestation, sexual misconduct, or if it even happened at all, without it feeding him to the hands of others who could care less about the sexual situation but just want his head on the platter for what he did with the wiki leaks.

So you may care less Christopher about the wiki leaks, but the USA cares very much; and the other crime, if there was one, shouldn't hold a potential death sentence, life imprisonment or torture for him. I believe if we are to hold humanitarian standards we protect all the humans involved while the truth and information is sought out.

You are welcome Roger.
 

Dandelion G. (382)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 3:21 pm
Unfortunately, what is being LOST in this thread, by having brought up the sexual part, is what his Mother was saying and offering in the video. The information about Gitmo, the information concerning Haiti and Venezuela, and the pain of a Mother.

I don't blame her for being very concerned for her son. My heart touched hers, for no matter what he may or may not have done, as no charges from anyone has been brought and yet he remains in this place not a free man, but like a mouse in the corner that dares not move hence the cat will pounce upon it. Sorry, I did not mean to stutter with my last comment showing twice, C2 seemed to have stuck.
 

llouise Woychesko (1)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 3:29 pm
Noted. I don't believe that he would get a fair trial.
 

Lois Jordan (56)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 5:39 pm
Noted & Much Thanks for posting, Dandelion! All 3 petitions signed.
It just always seemed to me that Assange is a publisher. He published info sent to him. Since when are publishers charged with crimes?! He's also a hero. And, I appreciate Dandelion explaining the "rape charges." These were ridiculous from the beginning, and have only become even more unbelievable as time has passed and more truth is known.

I was so glad that Ms. Assange brought up the fiber optic cables going to Gitmo; as well as the info on Haiti. This touches the heart of the matter of greedy corporations exploiting disasters. For anyone wanting more in-depth info on this type of thing, read Naomi Klein's Shock Doctrine. I watched it in the form of a documentary myself.
Both Assange & Bradley Manning deserve any support we can give. Letters, phone calls & e.mails to the White House are a good place to start. Anyone who is able to donate to WikiLeaks for Assange or Bradley Manning....I'm sure any amount would help.
 

Dandelion G. (382)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 6:03 pm
You cannot currently send a star to Lois because you have done so within the last week.
 

Kevin Lewis (1)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 7:24 pm
Julian broke the law, if I broke the law I would go to jail.
 

Dandelion G. (382)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 7:38 pm
Kevin, what law did he break? He hasn't been charged with anything. He may of done things that people didn't like in publishing some information, but that is no different than the New York Times that published the information too.
 

Gloria H. (88)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 8:22 pm
well, we see (or rather can't see) what is going on with Brady Manning. Mom has a definate right to feel fear for her son. The emperor has no clothes but sure is clothed in a cloak of silence. Anyone who whistleblows is in deep, deep do-do. We are not the happy go lucky, true country of liberty that the founding fathers had hoped to develop into.
 

Caitlin Mac Iver (103)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 9:04 pm
As an American, I am interested in Assange's predicament because I disagree with my country wanting to suppress the kinds of information Assange and Cpl. Manning have conspired to release. I don't think it's OK to disclose anything that harms national security, but I don't think that's the case in this instance. Many Americans wish to express support for Assange and his work because of this disagreement with US action against Assange. This I say in response to Roger Ms. comment. I enjoyed hearing this mother's view of her son. Very interesting. From his early acceptance of responsibility for his son, I would think perhaps he would not be a likely candidate for being an irresponsible reprobate who commits rape. I think it is shameful that some folks on this string are so certain that he is guilty simply because he doesn't want to be extradited. Sometimes the danger of innocent people being found guilty is quite enough to cause such alarm, I would think. In any case. I appreciate hearing this mother's view of her son. Thanks again, Dandelion.
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday October 16, 2012, 10:07 pm
A great post Cheers
 

wendy webber (28)
Wednesday October 17, 2012, 2:54 am
TY...noted
 

Parvez Zuberi (7)
Wednesday October 17, 2012, 3:33 am
If you heart the feelings of Million of Muslims by insulting their Prophet it is Freedom of Speech enshrined in American Constitution so no action can be taken said the American president in his UNO speech ,but if it hurts the American Govt what is said by Assange then he should be hanged where goes the freedom of speech ?
 

Petra M. (253)
Wednesday October 17, 2012, 1:25 pm
noted, thanks dear...
 

Daniel Partlow (189)
Thursday October 18, 2012, 9:59 am
Noted with interest!
 

Marie Therese Hanulak (30)
Thursday October 18, 2012, 6:20 pm
Noted, thank you.
 

SuSanne P. (182)
Saturday October 20, 2012, 2:19 am
Thank you Dandelion. Listened to every word and was touched by a few things other than the obvious.
I loved the choice of words selected to describe Julian...*HOPE* she said was his passion in life. Julian always asked *WHY*? *TRUTH* period. He wanted the TRUTH to be revealed whether it was "Scientific" or "Philosophicall...(forgive me for being too tired to quote exactly).
THIS CONFIRMED MY BELIEFS OF THIS WICKED COUNTRY's "Leaders". At the closing she spoke of USA's HORRIBLE GREED in the suffering of Haiti. I believe her words began as *UNETHICAL* which I couldn't agree more. For years I said I was ashamed to carry a USA passport. I am glad I spoke my Heart, and am so pleased to see so many now speak quite freely about this. Actually I am ashamed of my Species...Now I must read the posts and finally get to bed.
Ohhh, there was something else Ms. Assange spoke of... "optic lines" being laid while she spoke at GITMO! Brilliant Dandi, ThankX to you once again. I think there are a couple of petitions on top, will sign if I am not mistaken. Will read every post the moment I arise...
 

Dandelion G. (382)
Saturday October 20, 2012, 5:52 am
Thank you Susanne for going to the heart of this video and having watched it. It was about the "message" that this woman had to offer, sure she is speaking about her son and fears for him, but it was the other information dropped out that I wanted the people to listen to, then go investigate further upon.

Unfortunately some only read the title and move on without learning what I'm trying to offer, and then others went into the supposed sexual allegations which had nothing about it on this video, there are other stories one could put onto C2 about that if someone would care to.

This goes beyond the man and what the man has uncovered. I'm just sorry too many people, even on C2, don't take a bit of time to find these things out. It is too our determent that it is not happening. But I can only offer so much in the short time I can be on here. I guess if 3 or 5 more people did get what this message was portraying then that is 3 or 5 more, and I leave it at that.
 

. (0)
Monday October 22, 2012, 2:23 pm
Thanks for the video Dandelion ( which I will have to view later). Many opinions flying........
 

AniMae Chi (407)
Sunday November 25, 2012, 2:37 pm
Thank you, all petitions signed.
 
Or, log in with your
Facebook account:
Please add your comment: (plain text only please. Allowable HTML: <a>)

Track Comments: Notify me with a personal message when other people comment on this story


Loading Noted By...Please Wait

 

 
Content and comments expressed here are the opinions of Care2 users and not necessarily that of Care2.com or its affiliates.