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The US Government Is Literally Arming the World


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Sheryl
- 615 days ago - motherjones.com
The US share has fluctuated between one third and one half of the global market for the past two decades, peaking at an almost monopolistic 70 percent of all weapons sold in 2011. IMPORTANT ARTICLE.



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Sheryl G (360)
Saturday October 15, 2016, 6:00 am
Weaker regulations also make it potentially easier for arms smugglers and human rights abusers to get their hands on US arms. For example, 36 US allies—from Argentina and Bulgaria to Romania and Turkey—will no longer need licenses from the State Department to import weapons and weapons parts from the United States.

This will make it far easier for smuggling networks to set up front companies in such countries and get US arms and arms components that they can then pass on to third parties like Iran or China. Already a common practice, it will only increase under the new regulations.

In its first six years, team Obama entered into agreements to sell more weaponry than any administration since World War II.

.......So much for the Peace Prize President. Read this article through carefully. Hillary Clinton is more of the same Obama or worse and Trump keeps talking about building up more within the military. Be careful of who you vote for........in my way of seeing it, the only person that will at least begin to address this and push for another direction is Dr. Jill Stein.
 

Sheryl G (360)
Saturday October 15, 2016, 6:02 am
Within the article:

As Lockheed Martin's Marillyn Hewson noted, however, the Middle East is hardly the only growth area for that firm or others like it.

The dispute between China and its neighbors over the control of the South China Sea (in many ways an incipient conflict over whether that country or the United States will control that part of the Pacific Ocean) has opened up new vistas when it comes to the sale of American warships and other military equipment to Washington's East Asian allies.

The recent Hague court decision rejecting Chinese claims to those waters (and the Chinese rejection of it) is only likely to increase the pace of arms buying in the region.
 

Sheryl G (360)
Saturday October 15, 2016, 6:33 am
Within the article:

The most damaging deals, if not the most lucrative, have been the sales of bombs and missiles to the Saudis for their brutal war in Yemen, where thousands of civilians have been killed and millions of people are going hungry.

*********but on the horizon there are new markets*********

The Obama administration's decision to end the longstanding embargo on US arms sales to Vietnam is likely to open yet another significant market for US firms.

US has offered more than $15 billion worth of weaponry to allies in East Asia, with Taiwan, Japan, and South Korea accounting for the bulk of the sales. Yup, no wonder the WWII agreement of Japan having no military is dissolved. Can't make money there otherwise.

The US has made significant inroads into the Indian arms market, which had traditionally been dominated by the Soviet Union and then Russia.

The United Kingdom has been by far the biggest purchaser of US weapons in Europe of late, with more than $6 billion in deals struck over the past two years alone—more, that is, than the US has sold to all other European countries combined.

And let us not forget about the new 10-year aid deal with Israel boosting US military assistance to that country by up to 25 percent.

Remember, when Countries and people have these weapons they tend to use them........
 

Sheryl G (360)
Saturday October 15, 2016, 6:35 am
In the meantime, the United States continues to hold onto its No. 1 role in the global arms trade, the White House does its part, the Pentagon greases the wheels, and the dollars roll in to profit-hungry weapons contractors.

Why isn't this being discussed in the debates? Or the Talking Heads on the mainstream news media's?
 

Darren Woolsey (218)
Saturday October 15, 2016, 6:36 am
The U.S. Military Industrial Complex is arguably the most terrifying animal on the face of the earth. . .
Shared over social media.
Who knows, a few Americans might wake the f$$$ck up and realize what you already know, Dandelion.
 

Ben O (152)
Saturday October 15, 2016, 6:49 am
Make love, not war!
 

Donna T (0)
Saturday October 15, 2016, 7:02 am
thank you
 

Animae C (514)
Saturday October 15, 2016, 8:14 am
WOW horrified!!!
YES so much for the Peace prize president!!

Won't be striking any deals with Oz.... yet!!
 

Barb SiteIssues V (202)
Saturday October 15, 2016, 8:53 am
Noted, Thank you
 

Sheryl G (360)
Saturday October 15, 2016, 9:07 am
I'm glad you wrote yet, Animae.

I'll pull out the excerpt again "The dispute between China and its neighbors over the control of the South China Sea (in many ways an incipient conflict over whether that country or the United States will control that part of the Pacific Ocean) has opened up new vistas when it comes to the sale of American warships and other military equipment to Washington's East Asian allies."

Which TPP will be doing a squeeze play as China isn't in this 40% of market control that TPP will bring. But Japan is in TPP, Vietnam is in TPP, Australia is in TPP, Malaysia is in TPP - get the drift. When China is angry over the TPP which it is already, everyone will be armed to the teeth. Our war ships have been sent there, you started to receive our troops a few years back - all in preparation for TPP. These Greedy Heartless do not care who must DIE to keep what they want going.

Ignorance is NOT bliss people - read the articles on C2 and elsewhere - people DIE all the time from not knowing what is going on or why.
 

JL A (281)
Saturday October 15, 2016, 9:54 am
"All we are saying is give peace a chance" and this is the answer we got...and some claim we're a Christian nation who follows the Prince of Peace? Thanks for the sad reminder Dandelion--we have put the world on the trajectory for another world war IMO
 

Evelyn B (62)
Saturday October 15, 2016, 11:30 am
Thoroughly depressing -
For there is no doubt that the corpocracy includes the weight of the Military Industrial Complex - for whom "PEACE" is a death knell.

So our taxes underwrite government subsidies for military aid, while the politicians pay lip-service to peace building ...
 

Darren Woolsey (218)
Saturday October 15, 2016, 3:44 pm
Voting for Trump OR Clinton is just continue the same. . .

Real change means voting for Dr. Jill Stein, but I'm preaching to the converted in most of your cases!
 

Sheryl G (360)
Saturday October 15, 2016, 3:52 pm
Yes, unfortunately, the Trump type supporters always avoided most of what I post and now too I've lost a lot of people who use to come to my posts, being they are sticking with Hillary. Tis better for some to be able to hold their nose than to really know the full truth to the matter.
 

Walter F (129)
Saturday October 15, 2016, 4:15 pm
Remember the song of he song "when will they ever learn '. ,they never will until they have killed thousands more young men in their future wars.
 

Mandi T (367)
Saturday October 15, 2016, 6:04 pm
TY Sheryl
 

Ed Site Issues V (198)
Saturday October 15, 2016, 6:20 pm
Noted, Thanks
 

Liliana Garcia (201)
Saturday October 15, 2016, 10:09 pm
Unfortunate and staggering as it is, still it was the thing to expect after the two atomic bombs and the way the so called Un security council was structured to play up to USA interests.
 

Arild Gone for now (174)
Sunday October 16, 2016, 5:59 am
There is a screaming lack of morality in the USA.
 

Darren Woolsey (218)
Sunday October 16, 2016, 6:11 am
Completely agree with that, Arild.
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday October 16, 2016, 6:36 am
Can the government support a war-free world instead???
 

Darren Woolsey (218)
Sunday October 16, 2016, 6:45 am
Looked at this from another angle; can you imagine the WASTE in technology created to destroy, and also can you imagine that environments AND people that are being destroyed in the cross-fire of War. . . ?
 

Roberto MARINI (90)
Sunday October 16, 2016, 9:12 am
thank you dandelion for this post
 

John De Avalon (36)
Sunday October 16, 2016, 10:32 am
It's monstrous. The arms industry is so huge and lucrative I can't see the Americans ever giving up the trade. Even if they did, other nations would only step in and take advantage. We are talking about staggering amounts of money ...

But certainly if all the money spent on weaponry was spent instead on providing education and healthcare, and building up local economies so that everyone had employment and a decent standard of living, the world would be infinitely better - and considerably more peaceful!
 

Janet B (0)
Sunday October 16, 2016, 12:27 pm
Thanks
 

Birgit W (160)
Sunday October 16, 2016, 1:43 pm
Excellent article Dandelion. Nobody seems to realize how dangerous the US military and the weapon industry (Especially Lockheed Martin) really is. Stirring wars all over the planet is sinful and has to be stopped.
 

Colleen L (3)
Sunday October 16, 2016, 2:05 pm
Disgusting at what they are doing. Thanks Dandelion
 

Lois Jordan (63)
Sunday October 16, 2016, 2:29 pm
Noted. Many thanks for posting, Dandelion.

From article: "....take note of the impact of US weapons transfers, including cluster bombs, to Saudi Arabia..."
*I thought cluster bombs were outlawed, or illegal.....silly me!

"....the United States was credited with more than half the value of all global arms transfer agreements in 2014.....At 14 percent, the world's second largest supplier, Russia, lagged far behind."

"From the president....to the secretaries of state and defense to the staffs of US embassies, American officials regularly act as salespeople for the arms firms. And, the Pentagon is their enabler."

(*Has this now become the job of the Sec. of Defense and the Sec. of State?.....or are we just learning that this is part of their job description? Amazing how they got child-advocate Clinton to go along with this, since innocent children are being killed daily with our bombs. Not failing to mention former anti-Vietnam war hero, Kerry, who has now taken her place).

"....the weapons makers are careful to spread their production facilities to as many states and localities as possible. In this way, they ensure that endless support for government promotion of major arms sales becomes part and parcel of domestic politics."
(*So, they have now so thoroughly permeated the American job market that we are threatened with losing jobs if we stop making/selling weapons. HOW UTTERLY SICK AND DISGUSTING!)

As John De Avalon mentioned is his above comment, all of this money spent on weapons and war,
yet none for those truly in need.....let alone for education, infrastructure and healthcare (NOT health INSURANCE).

And, don't think that our complicit media will challenge any of this. In fact, Wolf Blitzer made an on-air comment recently, remarking something to the effect about the jobs that would disappear without wars.....
 

Bill Eagle (41)
Sunday October 16, 2016, 3:08 pm
This is a sad thing to know. I do know that if we cut our defense by 85%, we would still have the worlds largest military budget.
 

Lenore K (0)
Sunday October 16, 2016, 4:22 pm
no
 

Paul Christensen (1)
Sunday October 16, 2016, 4:34 pm
Best case scenario.All this crap rusts or is worn out on training grounds manuvers.Worst case scenario.All this weaponry starts to get used all at once all over the planet......those that are left alive at the end of this "instability",if any at all, will have to get used to the smell of rotting flesh
 

Darren Woolsey (218)
Monday October 17, 2016, 12:13 am
Better best case scenario, a lot more Americans wake the f$$$ck up, and start voting with their conscience for Dr Jill Stein.

A vote for EITHER Donald Trump OR Hillary Clinton is going to KEEP THE CURRENT status quo.
 

John De Avalon (36)
Monday October 17, 2016, 5:54 am
It's an extension of what was known in Imperial times as the Great Game. Now instead of Britain and Russia, its America and Russia locking horns trying to maintain and gain influence, and trying to trip the other up.

Incredible to me, and totally lacking in wisdom and insight, how the West is isolating and antagonizing Russia.
Like that is going to achieve anything. Other than rile the Russian bear!
Where is a REAL statesman when we need one?! By offering the hand of friendship to Russia we could certainly help end the war in Syria, smooth things over in Ukraine and generally end the fire-starting politics at the root of so many conflicts.

If you had the East and West agreeing, or at least agreeing not to disagree, most wars currently happening would not happen. Rwanda for example was a close contact war, born of hate. That would still have happened. But other wars require East or West, or both, drip feeding arms supplies to start them and keep them going.



 

Leanne K (23)
Monday October 17, 2016, 6:57 am
An excellent article highlighting just how entrenched the armament industry is. Its true, why is this not spoken about, aired and discussed? Since when is it a forgone conclusion?
Yet it was a bit too obama-bashing for my liking. Clearly this has been going on long before Obama took the helm. If the U.S. president couldn't get Medicaid off the ground what hope, really, did he have of dismantling the underhanded arms manufacturing giant. (If he wanted to I'm guessing )
 

Sheryl G (360)
Monday October 17, 2016, 8:38 am
Thank you all for the various comments and I think most of us realize, who took the time to truly learn about this topic via this article or other articles and videos that we need to try to awaken more people to this. Share with a many people as you can and encourage people to learn, it does truly depend on those who know of it to help ourselves.

While I agree Leanne, that Obama may seem like he is being bashed, and there is a joke I've even used as well, that if something went wrong, including the weather, Obama did it. However we also must keep in mind that he is at the helm now so his situation should be scrutinized. He also has been talking out of both sides of his mouth, talking about one thing while doing another.

While I understand the President has certain limitations, he also made sure he kept the Patriot Act in place from the Bush Administration and increased it's power sometimes referred to as the Patriot Act 11. This is also a good video to watch Obama Has Created The Exact Thing He Claims to be Fighting

I know many people tend to lean one Party over the other, which has actually been to our own downfall. If we are honest with ourselves it is when a party we lean towards is in office we must not excuse it but to be as watchful upon it as we would on the opposite Party we might not support as strongly if at all. More are becoming Independent voters and thinkers and are starting to catch on to this two Party duopoly.

We have some serious and urgent matters going on both domestically and internationally and the media of Corporate media is doing us all a disservice by presenting these side shows. We've had two years that worked up to this election and we end up with Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum that say next to nothing of importance on the debates or off the debates. We had some REAL statesmen(women) but unfortunately with the system we have at this time - we'll not get them - the criminals are in charge, the money is in the positions of selecting so .......we continue to move further into dangerous territory.
 

TOM TREE (246)
Monday October 17, 2016, 10:23 am
Scary Stuff ! UNBELIEVABLE !!
 

Janet B (0)
Monday October 17, 2016, 2:30 pm
Thanks
 

Darren Woolsey (218)
Monday October 17, 2016, 2:59 pm
Reshared original article over social media, Dandelion.
 

Freya H (357)
Monday October 17, 2016, 3:13 pm
This shows just how powerful a stranglehold the Military Industrial Complex has on our sorry excuse for government. We don't have enough money to fix our infrastructure so cars drive over dangerous bridges and children drink polluted water. We don't have enough money for public aid so poor families have to wait in line for hours at food banks - and hope something is left when they get there. We don't have enough money for helping veterans, the very people who risked their asses for the pleasure of the defense contractors. Yet we can pour trainloads of moolah into the insatiable maw of the MIC. Our nation definitely has its morals and ethics all out of whack.

A storm is coming.
 

Sheryl G (360)
Monday October 17, 2016, 3:30 pm
It sure does Freya.
 

Evelyn B (62)
Monday October 17, 2016, 11:00 pm
Freya - ***************************************************************************
 

Darren Woolsey (218)
Tuesday October 18, 2016, 12:12 am
What price the power of a gun, capable of inflicting tremendous damage, in the hands of people easily swayed by their fears being played out by Clinton and Trump.
 

W. C (7)
Tuesday October 18, 2016, 9:15 am
Thank you.
 

Marija M (29)
Tuesday October 18, 2016, 9:25 am
Thank you.
 

JL A (281)
Tuesday October 18, 2016, 10:09 am
One of the areas being armed, where there has been US involvement for a decade, is Somalia--which rarely hits our mainstream news except when refugees who immigrated here are under attack, et al...
 

Janet B (0)
Tuesday October 18, 2016, 12:54 pm
Thanks
 

fly bird (26)
Wednesday October 19, 2016, 3:49 am
FACT SHEET: Memorandum of Understanding Reached with Israel'

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2016/09/14/fact-sheet-memorandum-understanding-reached-israel

"The new 10-year security assistance Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) to Israel is the most recent reflection of President Obama’s unshakeable commitment to Israel’s security.

Under the new MOU with Israel, the Obama Administration has made the largest single pledge of military assistance in U.S. history:
• The total value of the new MOU, which covers FY2019- FY2028, is $38 billion ($3.8 billion per year). It will succeed the current $30 billion MOU signed in 2007, which will expire at the end of FY2018.
• This amount represents a significant increase over the current MOU by every measure, and will enable Israel to acquire additional advanced military capabilities from the United States. "
 

fly bird (26)
Wednesday October 19, 2016, 3:59 am
'This aid to Israel amounts to more than half of all direct military aid the United States provides worldwide.
It is high time to end all U.S. military aid to Israel, that has enabled the Israeli state and it's crimes against humanity and the people of Palestine.

If Americans knew....

Noted. Thank you.
 

fly bird (26)
Wednesday October 19, 2016, 4:00 am
Freya says it as it is. Thank you, Freya. ********************************************
 

Maria Papastamatiou (4)
Wednesday October 19, 2016, 12:10 pm
Thanks a lot for this posting, Dandelion. Ii is sad, but true... It's a good thing that there are Americans who see these things and do not turn a deaf ear to warnings. Please keep up the good work. It is essential since US is the only superpower of the planet and awareness of its citizens is essential to all.
 

Sheryl G (360)
Wednesday October 19, 2016, 6:35 pm
Thank you Maria, do what I can from my humble place on the planet.
 

Janet B (0)
Wednesday October 19, 2016, 7:17 pm
Thanks
 

Darren Woolsey (218)
Thursday October 20, 2016, 12:01 am
Reshared original article over social media, Dandelion
 

Angelflowers D (85)
Thursday October 20, 2016, 4:07 am
What do you do but protest.
 

Janet B (0)
Thursday October 20, 2016, 1:53 pm
Thanks
 

. (0)
Thursday October 20, 2016, 2:26 pm
What possible difference does it make who supplies the weapons? Any void will be filled by countries like China and Russia. The world is awash in weapons and violence. I used to believe things were getting better, but I have come to realize that is not true and probably never will be. Stability is a fanciful mirage.
 

Darren Woolsey (218)
Thursday October 20, 2016, 2:39 pm
Arms, ammunition and military weapons manufacturers have blood on their hands, pure and simple.

Things have gradually got a lot worse, since World War 2 effectively, when a needlessly dropped bomb caused generations of families to suffer.

Alas, war and strategic control over land masses, which contain precious resources, which is a large part of why wars occur, is a big profit making business.

If you can convince enough people brainwashed or conditioned into thinking the patriotic way of life, then people grow up believing that protection of a land mass is good for the survival of a particular society or culture at the expense of another.

Utter drivel and balderdash, and striving for world peace is supposedly naive to some, but what is really stupid and naive is mankind's blindly idiotic pursuit of a crazy, demented power-possessing control of a few over the many.

Clinton, would have masses in America believe that we must make war on Russia as they are the enemy, another delusion. Trump would have masses believe that Ed Snowden is a crook and should be shot for betraying the American public, another utter delusion.

BOTH demented monkeys are unfit for office. Dr. Jill Stein in America and Jeremy Corbyn in Britain are two of the few genuine adults left in politics who don't believe in blasting everyone and his dog to pieces.

Speaking of which, Animal Rights and Animal Welfare activists SHOULD ALL BE supporting Dr. Jill Stein. You have or perpetuate war, you indirectly cause suffering to the vulnerable (children) and those without voice (animals).

I suggest some of you blinded by the Two-Party illusion, quickly wake the f$$$ck up and realize what you're in danger of doing in voting for either Trump or Clinton. Could be the worst mistake you ever make.
 

Evelyn B (62)
Thursday October 20, 2016, 3:11 pm
What I'd really like to see is a HEAVY international tax on all arms & munitions (NO exceptions) - to be invested in reconstruction & rehabilitation, support to the communities and families that fall victim to the use of arms & munitions (bombs, shelling, mines, snipers' bullets, drones etc )

On one hand, this could discourage some buyers (or reduce quantities they buy)
And on the other hand, it could redress some of the suffering of innocent victims of this big money-spinning industry.
 

Stephen Brian (23)
Thursday October 20, 2016, 4:01 pm
We have known this for a long time: The U.S. traditionally trades security-guarantees for favorable trade-conditions. This is how its foreign investments work. I just wish it were a whole lot better at recognizing would-be peaceful allies and people who will just turn those weapons around.
 

Sheryl G (360)
Thursday October 20, 2016, 5:26 pm
We need a better way, we need to begin to not be on the side of war. The same logic that someone is going to sell them is the same logic the coal mine owners in the USA were using. Why should we put our workers out of jobs because China and other places are still going to continue to use coal. With that logic nothing ever is given the chance to improve.
 

Edith B (146)
Thursday October 20, 2016, 9:06 pm
Sounds like the arms industry really owns our country, instead of the banks.
 

Margie FOURIE (148)
Friday October 21, 2016, 12:38 am
Why dont the US mind their own business?
 

Darren Woolsey (218)
Friday October 21, 2016, 12:43 am
Agree with all your comments (Evelyn, Dandelion, Stephen, Edith).

Unfortunately, War IS A BUSINESS, and a lot of the weapons manufacturers are making huge profit out of it.

With Clinton talking combative politics over Russia, I think ANYONE voting for her, really really REALLY needs to reconsider what they're doing.

Current world situation is being FUELED BY power-possessors talking aggressively, completely ignoring everyone caught in the crossfire of a naive idealism of wanting to control territory.

We have a strong Animal Right's movement here on CARE2. I can absolutely guarantee you that Dr. Jill Stein IS YOUR ONLY hope of improvement for Animals and Animal Welfare. You're not going to get any assistance from a Trump or Clinton presidency.
 

Sheryl G (360)
Friday October 21, 2016, 5:39 am
Wow, Margie, so glad to see a comment from you. Yes, we truly do need to stay out of everyone's business and start to clean up our own backyard. Our economy use to make many things, shoes, clothes, you name it we did it, now we seem to manufacture weapons, weapons, and weapons. If you make it, you want to sell it, so now it is a war economy we are existing around - not good.
 

Lenore K (0)
Friday October 21, 2016, 12:18 pm
ok
 

Lenore K (0)
Friday October 21, 2016, 12:19 pm
i mean nooo
 

Lenore K (0)
Friday October 21, 2016, 12:21 pm
i mean no
 

Janet B (0)
Friday October 21, 2016, 2:26 pm
Thanks
 

JL A (281)
Friday October 21, 2016, 8:05 pm
Lobbying expenditures:
http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/top.php?indexType=i

Campaign donations:
http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.php?ind=D

Money talking IMO
 

Margie FOURIE (148)
Friday October 21, 2016, 10:08 pm
Thank you again
 

Sandra Penna (135)
Saturday October 22, 2016, 6:54 am
Thank you very much for sharing and your comments, Dandelion.
 

Janet B (0)
Saturday October 22, 2016, 8:07 pm
Thanks
 

Charmaine M (11)
Sunday October 23, 2016, 10:27 am
noted and shared!

Please take a moment to sign my petitions too, thanks

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/803/213/518/say-no-to-corporal-punishment-in-moroccan-schools/

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/264/567/803/help-orphans-in-any-way-you-possibly-can/


 

Evelyn B (62)
Sunday October 23, 2016, 11:24 am
Charmaine - I appreciate that you care greatly about children & their rights, but I don't see how placing the link in this thread is related to the topic - nor am I sure that your petitions are well designed ...

For example, how do you plan to get the signed petition into the hands of the Moroccan Minister of Education? Because this is critical. A petition only carries weight if one can be sure that the target will read it and take note. Signing a petition that just vanishes into an in-file & collects dust may make the signer feel good, but it doesn't achieve anything. And a petition targeting "humanity"??? How will you use the signatures effectively?
 

Sheryl G (360)
Sunday October 23, 2016, 12:00 pm
Thank you Evelyn, far too many people piggyback their petitions onto stories that have nothing to do with the particular topic. That the petitions are not designed well to do as intended is just time wasted for many people and therefore other than the petition maker receiving a few butterflies has done little beyond that.

A lot of people do not realize that they also must print out the petition and the signatures and see to it that the proper person receives it. C2 doesn't do that work for them. I know many people who were making a lot of petitions assuming that C2 sent out the information, but even if C2 was to do that, where does one send it to with "humanity".
 

Janet B (0)
Sunday October 23, 2016, 12:23 pm
Thanks
 

roxy H (350)
Sunday October 23, 2016, 12:50 pm
butterfly grabbers -.- .. self proffiteers .. ( who is the greedy looking for self promotion) me me me syndrome.. to hell with "humanity" animals and earth.. when they can get someone to sign a petition it gives them that BUTTERFLY! i personally think NONE OF US should get rewarded for each personal thing.. time for care 2 to change the system and reward the members who log in as a WHOLE. 5,000 points a week ... BOOM
no matter what ... no rewards individual anymore
 

Evelyn B (62)
Sunday October 23, 2016, 1:44 pm
Roxy, while I DO agree fully! - let's get back on topic here :>)
 

Darren Woolsey (218)
Monday October 24, 2016, 11:19 am
Completely agree with what's been said, including Dandelions, Evelyn's and Roxy's points.
I started on CARE2 with the mindset of collecting points, and that's completely changed within me.

There ARE issues that need addressing, from the top down of governmental control, etc. which will ultimately be more effective than the thousands of petitions extant, including duplicates that appear regularly.

Another one is the constant, minimalist approach to posting, just to acquire posts, with virtually zero value added comment, and very probably no sharing of anything either.
 

Janet B (0)
Monday October 24, 2016, 12:26 pm
Thanks
 

Lenore K (0)
Tuesday October 25, 2016, 4:05 pm
ok
 

Evelyn B (62)
Tuesday October 25, 2016, 10:47 pm
What is "ok" about this story - or the discussion?????
 

Stephen Brian (23)
Wednesday October 26, 2016, 3:36 pm
Here is another interesting way of looking at the issue here:

Conflicts will escalate and people will appeal to the ultimate arbiter of dispute, force, to resolve them, with or without modern weapons. We could say that conflicts would be less bloody without them, but historically wars used to be much bloodier than they are today, relative to the populations of the regions at war. The 30 Years' War, for example, with the plague that it spread, wiped out a third of Europe. People are going to die with or without modern weapons in the hands of nearby armed forces, so do these arms sales really get more people killed, or just change the manner of their deaths? I honestly don't know if there is a way to answer that question.

All that said, as long as Americans see other nations as copies of America, they will continue to misread the world and in their ignorance, they will do damage that could have been avoided.
 

Darren Woolsey (218)
Thursday October 27, 2016, 12:27 am
As you put it, Stephen, the ultimate arbiter of force, dumbs down to egotism, who has the biggest mouth, biggest gun, most aggression.

Humankind in this form of power-possessing personality/egotism politics hasn't progressed much, or evolved at all, since much earlier times. The only thing that HAS progressed or evolved is the machinery or weaponry of destruction.

Power-possessors, are they manifest, have little to zero personal force WITTHIN to actually manage that force to such an extent where it doesn't manifest as outward aggression. The Dalai Lama and other spiritual leaders, and a few people who support the everyday, ordinary citizen, so Jeremy Corbym, Dr. Jill Stein, Bernie Sanders, etc.

So long as we continue to believe the lies and rhetoric that one nation must predominate over another, one power-possessor must dominate over another, humankind is going to crash land from one war battle to another war battle.

By voting for Hillary Clinton OR Donald Trump, you're going to get the same sh$t.
You want change, you're going to have to vote for Dr. Jill Stein, who IS NOT A WAR MONGER.

We have the same issue in Britain, with a right-wing fascist government in control, intent on exercising a form of modern day class/racist/xenophobic/apartheid regime where if you don't fall into line with the Corporate Capitalist model of living, you're essentially an alien, nonessential, non-productive member of the global workforce.

If that's the way you want your nation to be, then vote for Clinton or Trump and welcome to the rest of your life, because we're already in it.

If you want genuine, healthy change, you need to support those WHO ARE GOING to galvanize that change.
 

Roberto MARINI (90)
Thursday October 27, 2016, 9:10 am
Thank you for this post
 

Sheryl G (360)
Thursday October 27, 2016, 11:51 am
Some people Evelyn, do as little as possible to gain a few butterflies. Instead of ok it would be better they'd do ty. It irks me because this member writes ok on everything, death of children, beaten dog, war, massive oil spill and we get ok. I'm glad you mentioned it as I have too on other threads.
 

bhavin s (3)
Friday October 28, 2016, 12:13 am
Noted.
 

Lenore K (0)
Saturday October 29, 2016, 12:45 pm
ok
 

Janet B (0)
Sunday October 30, 2016, 1:05 pm
Thanks
 

Evelyn B (62)
Sunday October 30, 2016, 2:34 pm
Lenore - you still haven't explained what is "OK" about this from the first time you said "ok" here ...

OK for whom? Those making money out of death?
OK that the US is THE major dealer in death methods?
 
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