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First Term: Americans Collecting Disability Increased 1,385,418--Now 1 for Each 13 Full-Time Workers


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Carol
- 549 days ago - cnsnews.com
(CNSNews.com) - During President Barack Obama's first term, the number of Americans collecting federal disability insurance increased by 1,385,418 to a record 8,827,795.



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Carol Dreeszen (364)
Monday January 21, 2013, 4:22 pm
(CNSNews.com) - During President Barack Obama’s first term, the number of Americans collecting federal disability insurance increased by 1,385,418 to a record 8,827,795.

As a result, there is now one person collecting disability in this county for every 13 people working full-time. Forty-two years ago, in December 1968, there were 51 people working full-time in this country for each person collecting disability.

In January 2009, the month Obama was inaugurated, there were 7,442,377 Americans collecting federal disability insurance, according to the Social Security Administration. By December 2012, the latest month reported, there were 8,827,795 collecting disability, an increase of 1,385,418. With 115,868,000 people working full-time in December, according the Bureau of Labor Statistics, there was 1 person collecting disability for every 13 people working full-time.

In the comparable period of George W. Bush’s first term—January 2001 through December 2004—the number of people taking disability went from 5,052,895 to 6,197,664, an increase: 1,144,769.

In the comparable period of George W. Bush's second term--January 2005 through December 2008--the number of people taking disability went from 6,219,666 to 7,427,203, an increase of 1,207,537.

Back in January 2001, there was one person collecting disability for every 23 full-time workers; by December 2004 there was one person collecting disability for every 19 full-time workers; and by December 2008, there was one person collecting disability for every 16 full-time workers.

Forty-two years ago, in December 1968, 1,295,428 Americans collected disability and 65,630,000 worked full-time. Thus, at that time, there were about 51 Americans working full-time for each person collecting disability.
 

Allan Yorkowitz (452)
Monday January 21, 2013, 4:25 pm
This is going to be a long, four years.
 

Diane O. (149)
Monday January 21, 2013, 5:10 pm
Can you say "Nanny State?" Obama is ALL OVER Americans being on the government dole. He knows the taxpayers are funding over $60 billion a year in fraud and abuse in these social programs and he doesn't go anywhere near trying to clean it up and get these people identified and prosecuted. Obama is all about a socialist America. He believes in a level playing field that all Americans need to be put in their place sharing their incomes with the slackers. If Obama was really pro American he'd put a task force on identifying the fraud and abuse, clean it up, and give those who really qualify for disability and welfare a cost of living raise so that they can adequately feed themselves and their families. But, no, Obama isn't doing that.

Obama is all about Obama. Listening to him today was sad. Obama is high on his own power and as an "elitist' the suit fits him well.
 

Diane O. (149)
Monday January 21, 2013, 5:13 pm
Allan, I believe the American people will once again stand tall and vote in 2014 sending the democrats out AGAIN and bring in enough republicans to have a republican congress. Today, Obama revealed himself...stepped out of the closet.....as an Idealogue....he wants to push HIS agenda. This is what narcissists do. In Obama's mind, this is all about Obama and his legacy.

If we are successful in 2014 to seat a republican congress then we shut Obama down. Then we can watch him circumvent the Constitution for two years until he is out of our White House.
 

Jae A. (323)
Monday January 21, 2013, 5:15 pm
Compare that to the tax dollars given to Wall Street in the last dozen years.....

Not Obama's nor anyone else's fault in Government that there are people with disabilities..returning disabled/veterans are a large part of that count but I imagine you don't give a flip about them either.

SO you folks think that persons with diabilites shouldn't have help ? I guess that's a silly question as rightwingers don't think they need health insurance either...or anyone that elderly or that is of proverty level income or lower. Wow..what a nice , CARING , bunch of rightwing extremist your NOT.
 

Diane O. (149)
Monday January 21, 2013, 5:25 pm
You've missed the point again, Jae. Ask Obama where the jobs are for people with disabilities. Ask him where the jobs are for people without disabilities. The point is that Obama hasn't done anything to promote hiring among our small businesses and larger corporations. He has delivered nothing but uncertainty, higher taxes and a penalty tax related to heatlhcare.

And, now sequestration is near. Obama will have millions of Americans without jobs...and unemployment will soar to over 10%.

Obama has brought a dark cloud over America. The only thing Obama loves is the sound of his own voice.
 

Vicky P. (462)
Monday January 21, 2013, 6:20 pm
Maybe people really are sick, take care of all the other issues instead of side-tracking to a stupid issue that doesn't even take up a small part of the budget
 

JL A. (272)
Monday January 21, 2013, 6:42 pm
DOD:
Weekly UI Claims

The department reported the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial Unemployment Insurance claims was 335,000 for the week ending Jan. 12, a decrease of 37,000 from the previous week. The four-week moving average was 359,250, down 6,750 from the previous week's revised average of 366,000.
Three jobs initiatives for persons with disabilities:
http://www.dol.gov/dol/topic/disability/jobsearch.htm
http://www.dol.gov/_sec/stratplan/2010/odep/5.htm
http://www.dol.gov/odep/categories/workforce/NTARBrief7.pdf
 

JL A. (272)
Monday January 21, 2013, 7:53 pm
For context and perspective: almost one in five adults had a disability in 1993, 9.6% a severe disability (about 1 in 10) and 15% had an activity limitation (which relates to workplace accommodations) or 1 in 7.

http://infouse.com/disabilitydata/disability/1_1.php

How many people with disabilities are there in the United States?

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, about 53 million Americans have a disability, which includes people of all ages. About two-thirds of these individuals have a severe disability. Statistical information about persons with disabilities can be obtained from the U.S. Census Bureau, Disability web site,
http://www.starprogram.state.mn.us/faq.htm
How does the federal government define "disability"?

The definition of "disability" varies depending on the purpose for which it is being used. Federal and state agencies generally use a definition that is specific to a particular program or service. For example:

For purposes of nondiscrimination laws (e.g. the Americans with Disabilities Act, Section 503 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973 and Section 188 of the Workforce Investment Act), a person with a disability is generally defined as someone who (1) has a physical or mental impairment that substantially limits one or more "major life activities," (2) has a record of such an impairment, or (3) is regarded as having such an impairment.
To be found disabled for purposes of Social Security disability benefits, individuals must have a severe disability (or combination of disabilities) that has lasted, or is expected to last, at least 12 months or result in death, and which prevents working at a "substantial gainful activity" level.
State vocational rehabilitation (VR) offices will find a person with a disability to be eligible for VR services if he or she has a physical or mental impairment that constitutes or results in a "substantial impediment" to employment for the applicant. Some of these definitions include words or phrases that have been the subject of lawsuits, as individuals, agencies, and courts try to clarify the terms used in some of these definitions of disability. If you want to find out if a particular disability or condition gives you certain rights, contact the federal or state agency that enforces the law in question. If you want to find out if you qualify for a particular program or service, contact the federal or state agency that administers the program to find out the specifics of the disability definition they use.
 

Carol Dreeszen (364)
Monday January 21, 2013, 8:29 pm
Vicky P..I am kind of confused here..were you speaking to Jae's reply or Diane's? And can you please explain a bit more what you mean!?

J.L. Thanks for the information! I do wonder about all of these people on disability as to how many of them are legal! The reason I say this is we know an individual who is a con artist to put it mildly...he was having a HUD house built and he was helping build it...he faked a back accident...collected workers comp. and watched other workers finish up building his HUD house! How do we know there are not thousands of others out there doing the same thing!?
 

JL A. (272)
Monday January 21, 2013, 8:36 pm
Carol, You are welcome. I've found that there are people with ethical challenges in all walks of life highlighting the risks of taking anecdotal evidence or individual cases and generalizing it to the whole population. Each person gets re-evaluated periodically for continued eligibility based on the medical information on file, even the ones not expected to ever recover. The time in-between evaluations differs based on the medical information. There are other audits and investigations that occur. The IRS reports earnings to SSA. Lots of possible traps.
 

Carol Dreeszen (364)
Monday January 21, 2013, 8:59 pm
There is nothing more satisfying IMO than seeing someone get caught up in their own lie!! :-) And there are SO many of them that do it and get by with it..but sooner or later it catches up with them..in the mean time though others suffer! And that is what sucks!!
 

JL A. (272)
Monday January 21, 2013, 9:07 pm
One other factor to consider Carol: people who worked who go onto SSD receive only a benefit based on their past earnings and it is quite awhile before most of them have been paid anywhere near the amount paid into SS.
The average monthly benefit amount for SSDI in December 2010 for both sexes was $1,067. The average benefit for men was $1,191, and for women, $931.

Read more: The Average Social Security Disability Amount | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/info_7826928_average-social-security-disability-amount.html#ixzz2Ig5iRbXI
 

Carol Dreeszen (364)
Monday January 21, 2013, 9:28 pm
I understand that J.L....what I am trying to explain and maybe didn't make it clear enough is this guy who made this claim is a 3 time fellon...so he has learned every trick in the book on how to screw society! He could care less about ripping off the government or anyone else for that matter. So my point being is I am sure he is not the only one out there that pulls this kind of stunts...so whatever amount they receive is basically stolen IMO..that is my point.
 

Jae A. (323)
Monday January 21, 2013, 10:00 pm
Hey Diane O..I think you missed the real point here...how about you ask the Corporates/Wall Street where are the jobs for those with and without disabilities...it's they who are hording huge profits [trillions] while continuing to outsource American jobs...Apparently you missed the point in thinking that it's governments 'job' to supply jobs for anyone out of work. All the while the GOP in congress keep fighting funds for infrastructer which are need to maintain all kinds of public services...from roads to bridges and on and one , which would and always have helped supply jobs via government as needed.

It's governments job to make up from what the Corporates refuse to do but it takes all of Congress to get that done and most of us know...that ain't ah goona happen with the GOP we presently have in Congress.

Great comment J.L.A. / Roseann / Vicky ....reall spot on ones.

If anyone wants to know how to screw society they should just ask Dick Cheney and Dubya Bush..the Saudi Muslim oil Royal families and Wall St. Bankers. Now there's some names you can trust to know more than almost anyone how to about screwing society.
 

Carol Dreeszen (364)
Monday January 21, 2013, 10:09 pm
It's a conspiracy Jae!!!! They are out to make sure nobody has jobs in America!! They want to take the heat off Obama!!
 

Diane O. (149)
Tuesday January 22, 2013, 2:28 am
George W. Bush and Dick Cheney will be remembered well in history and by the end of Obama's term they will look like saints.

Obama stepped out of the "closet" yesterday and proved his real intentions for our country. Centrist? Not by a long shot. Ideologue....pushing his own socialist agenda for our country. He is doing great damage to a wonderful country. It will take two republican presidents to undo all the wrong that Obama will have done by the end of 2016. Our country's only hope is in 2014 and I have a feeling that the American people will, once again, step up to the plate and show how much they love their country.
 

Ro H. (0)
Tuesday January 22, 2013, 4:54 am
ty
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday January 22, 2013, 10:03 am
What's worse, 4 years of this whining, hate BS or 4 years of destructive republican policy?

Viva democratic socialism!!!!
 

Sherry H. (64)
Tuesday January 22, 2013, 10:19 am
Everywhere I've lived I had someone telling me about someone they knew who got SS benefits for something they never had wrong with them. I'm surely far from the only one in a whole state hearing about people doing this. People have been caught being video taped doing things they would never be able to do if they had the physical disability they claimed they did. I had a gal tell me once, and I will say I don't know the facts on these states with how easy it is to get benefits, or if it was in fact true, or if was, still is, but they went to Kentucky and stayed long enough to get SS benefits they said, only claiming they had depression, and according to them it was that easy in Kentucky, Tennessee, and I can't remember the other state they said. But you have lawyers just waiting to take your case to court if you've been turned down, advertise it to everyone, and get it for you whether you need it or not, and their only concern is the buck they get from winning your case. A lot of those. On the other hand, I have heard of people being turned down that should never have been turned down, while they're giving it away to those who don't.
 

Sherry H. (64)
Tuesday January 22, 2013, 10:21 am
don't need it- I should have added at the end.
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday January 22, 2013, 11:21 am
"Everywhere I've lived I had someone telling me about someone they knew who got SS benefits for something they never had wrong with them."

No way. SSD is very hard to get. You must be talking about workmans comp.
Depression is a shoe in in any state. It is debilitating. SS is not a state by state thing at all. Lawyers HAVE to win the case. OMG!!!
 

Carol Dreeszen (364)
Wednesday January 23, 2013, 9:44 am
Sherry..I was at one of the Hospitals one time when I was in town and was waiting for my Dr. apt...I started talking to this man which I believe was a Mexican..anyway we started talking about SS and he said he was just waiting for his first SS check and he had just gotten into the US!! Now I don't know who gets what now days but the amount of fraud that is going on in our "government" programs is astounding!!! Do we have a leader who is willing to dig in and say enough is enough!? NOPE!! He promotes more and more fraud and turns a blind eye to it!!! So with any type of "freebie" coming from our government I think it is safe to say ANYTHING can be done and any form of corruption and fraud is used!!
 
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