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Pedophilia Is A Sexual Orientation Under CA Bill


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Carol
- 628 days ago - rethinksociety.com
California Congresswoman, Rep. Jackie Speier CA (D), wants to federalize a state law to prohibit counseling to change a person's sexual orientation. That doesn't sound that extreme, but pedophilia is a sexual orientation according to this bill as well.



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Carol Dreeszen (362)
Wednesday April 3, 2013, 5:10 pm
California Congresswoman, Rep. Jackie Speier CA (D), wants to federalize a state law to prohibit counseling to change a person’s sexual orientation. That doesn’t sound that extreme, but pedophilia is a sexual orientation according to this bill as well.

Under the bill’s language, a mental health counselor could be sanctioned if there was an attempt to get a pedophile or gay individual to change his behavior or speak negatively about their behavior as it relates to sexuality.

The bill calls on states to prohibit efforts to change a minor’s sexual orientation, even if the minor requests it, saying that doing so is “dangerous and harmful.”

The text of the legislation doesn’t specifically ban “gay” conversion therapy. Instead, it prohibits attempts to change a person’s sexual orientation.

“Sexual orientation change efforts’ means any practices by mental health providers that seek to change an individual’s sexual orientation,” the bill says.

Republicans attempted to add an amendment specifying that, “pedophilia is not covered as an orientation.” However, the Democrats defeated the amendment. Rep. Alcee Hastings (D-FL) stated that all alternative sexual lifestyles should be protected under the law, and accordingly decided that pedophilia is a sexual orientation that should be equally as embraced as homosexuality.

“This language is so broad and vague, it arguably could include all forms of sexual orientation, including pedophilia,” said Brad Dacus, president of the Pacific Justice Institute. “It’s not just the orientation that is protected—the conduct associated with the orientation is protected as well.”

Who Cares If Pedophilia Is A Sexual Orientation?

It also means that, if pedophilia is a sexual orientation, that discrimination laws also apply to pedophiles. That means you cannot block a pedophile from being a preschool teacher or any other high-risk occupation.

Recently, a United States District Court Judge, William Shubb, sided with Pacific Justice Institute (PJI) by granting their plaintiffs a preliminary injunction against the legislation, which is known as California SB 1172.

“Because the court finds that SB 1172 is subject to strict scrutiny and is unlikely to satisfy this standard, the court finds that plaintiffs are likely to succeed on the merits of their claims based on violations of their rights to freedom of speech under the First Amendment,” wrote Judge Shubb.

“This victory sends a clear signal to all those who feel they can stifle religious freedom, free speech, and the rights of parents without being contested,” said PJI President, Brad Dacus. “We at PJI are ready to fight this battle all the way to the Supreme Court, if necessary.

“This will be a long, grueling battle with tremendous consequences for generations to come. We are grateful to those who are willing to support us in this critical time to preserve our freedoms and protect our children,” he continued.

Thankfully, for the time being, this legislation has been blocked, but many questions still remain.

This bill establishes a dangerous precedent for normalizing the behavior of pedophiles while stripping parents of their rights and peace of mind.

One can certainly make the argument that homosexuals are “born that way,” and we generally would not dispute that. However, when we have legislators that want to extend the “born that way” defense to pedophiles, this crosses a very dangerous line.

Whether a pedophile is born that way or not, it still does not make their behavior acceptable in any way.

If so, then you could declare rapists are “born that way.” They can’t help that they need to rape! Poor them!

Let’s be real.

Sex between an adult and a child too young to understand what is going on is not the same thing as sex between two consenting adults.

The operative word here is “consenting.” Children—by both law and basic common sense—cannot “consent.” If Jackie Spier had a son or daughter, and an adult “had consensual sex” with him or her, we do not believe that what she would be so adamant about protecting them.

What liberals conveniently ignore is the fact that all societies who participated in pedophilia—such as the Hittites, Canaanites, Greeks, and Romans—eventually caved in on themselves due to corruption and depravity.

Further, let’s not also forget that their favorite form of entertainment was watching people get torn to shreds by lions, hacked to death, and burned alive.

Recognizing sexual ‘orientation’ is walking a razor’s edge. Unlike gay-oriented legislation, pedophilia has victims who must be protected.

We don’t put pedophiles in prison to make them stop being pedophiles; we put them there because they threaten the safety of the most vulnerable people in a society.
 

Nyack Clancy (452)
Wednesday April 3, 2013, 5:44 pm
"What liberals conveniently ignore is the fact that all societies who participated in pedophilia—such as the Hittites, Canaanites, Greeks, and Romans—eventually caved in on themselves due to corruption and depravity."

What Liberals have NOT ignored is the fact that molesting children it is a favorite passtime of the Catholic Church- the second passtime of the Catholic Church being protection those who molest children.

Hey- what do you want? You got folks down south marrying child brides and getting them pregnant by the time they are 12. Most likely even their cousin.
 

Jeanne Young (19)
Wednesday April 3, 2013, 6:35 pm
Noted - too appalled to speak, despite an adult lifetime of speaking for liberating our sexuality - that's between consenting ADULTS
 

David C. (29)
Thursday April 4, 2013, 3:51 am
Carol as you know I do not stand side by side with you on a lot of your posting, but on this one I do, thank you for showing us this.
I do have to point out that, I like to see part of this law, the part to prohibit counseling to change a person's sexual orientation.
 

Roger Skinner (14)
Thursday April 4, 2013, 8:55 am
I marked this as "not worthy" for several reasons. 1) this article is nearly two months old. 2) it is based on events that occurred over four months ago. 3) it is full of misinformation.

The proposed bill (H.Con.Res. 141 -- http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hconres141/text) did not make any laws. It did not create any "sanctions", It did not say "pedophilia is a sexual orientation". What it did say is "Expressing the sense of Congress efforts by mental health practitioners to change an individual’s sexual orientation and gender identity or expression are dangerous and harmful and should be prohibited from being practiced on minors." and " In General- It is the sense of Congress that sexual orientation and gender identity or expression change efforts directed at minors are discredited and ineffective, have no legitimate therapeutic purpose, and are dangerous and harmful." and encouraged (not forced) states to address the issue.

In any case, the resolution was sent to committee in November and died there, so the issue is non-existent.
 

Carol Dreeszen (362)
Thursday April 4, 2013, 10:40 am
Thanks David! One for me huh!?:-)

Roger...Well I guess at least you marked something huh!? I am sorry that the article is not up to your specifications!! Not all stories happened within the past day or two but if you do expect that then you will be mighty surprised because there are many things that have happened more than a couple days ago that SOME people have never seen yet...have you EVER thought of that!? So just because YOU think it's "old" at 4 months means those who have never seen it should not have to see it!? WOW! What logic!! So your proposed bill info said the same thing as my post..big deal! Seems you have said this on at least one of my stories before....I didn't realize you were the cop for current news!!
 

Carol Dreeszen (362)
Thursday April 4, 2013, 10:42 am
In any case, the resolution was sent to committee in November and died there, so the issue is non-existent.

So..big deal...
 

Roger Skinner (14)
Thursday April 4, 2013, 12:00 pm
I mainly marked this as unworthy because of the misinformation, but given it's age, it is apparent to me that the purpose of posting this now is not to inform, but to provoke and inflame. Pedophilia is a hot button for many people, but it's use here is tenuous at best and completely ignores the point of the resolution.
 

Carol Dreeszen (362)
Thursday April 4, 2013, 2:12 pm
You have the right to think what you will Roger!
 
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