Tuesday August 11, 2009, 3:29 pm

Thanks for posting this.

I just put a news item on here about the torture memos and a petition to Holder to uphold the law, please visit it, note it and follow through with the signing and doing the other things the lionk takes you to (At VoterForPeace)



Holder Warned That Limited Investigation and Selective Prosecution Would Violate the Law

If that link won't work, just copy and paste this:

http://www.care2.com/news/member/276942576/1218901

Thanks and Peace.

NotSilent.

Tuesday August 11, 2009, 4:59 pm
Thank you!

Tuesday August 11, 2009, 6:25 pm
Noted with thanks Eleanor.

Tuesday August 11, 2009, 6:42 pm
Signed ty Eleanor & NotSilent

Tuesday August 11, 2009, 7:40 pm
I admire journalists so much because without them, we would know NOTHING. These crimes are inexcusable. I pray humiliation from public exposure will lead to punishment. Thanks Eleanore.

Tuesday August 11, 2009, 8:11 pm
I want to add that ACLU video does not address ACTUAL physical, sexual and psychological abuses being committed on whoever ends up in US custody. The Memo is a guideline only. Mr. Agosto is a hero for waking up but there is much more going on here.

Tuesday August 11, 2009, 8:25 pm
Noted, thanks Eleanor.

Tuesday August 11, 2009, 8:55 pm
I wish people would realize that these "tortures" are done in the good old USA daily The same people who gave them these torture techniques get away with it legally in mental facilities and advocated by the coutrts and our schools..

Tuesday August 11, 2009, 10:44 pm
Can we, dare we say the bush&co war crimes are not only being ignored, but some are continuing???

It can't be fascism if we do it, right? Better, "Obama is playing chess, not checkers," as Thom Hartmann says.

We will wait a while longer in "hope" and respect for the smartest best president in my lifetime to make his move and end this assault on humanity and human rights.

Wednesday August 12, 2009, 12:57 am
Noted, Eleanor, thank you.

Wednesday August 12, 2009, 2:29 am
People who do torture or support torture are disgusting!!!

Wednesday August 12, 2009, 6:42 am
I see that Britain claims that it was not complicit in any torture????
The only thing you can say about Britain and its record of recent years
is that when it lies it does so with such pompous dignity
that everyone can see the nose growing longer.

Let's face it we have a useless dithering PM who heads up a government of useless, dishonest scroungers who have got so used to lying that they no longer know how to tell the truth...and as for MI5...when did they ever tell the truth...its against their religion.

Wednesday August 12, 2009, 6:51 am
Thankyou Eleanor:

View from Guantanamo: A Conversation with Andy Worthington
Tuesday, 11 August 2009 06:54


On August 9, World Can't Wait activists across the country were privileged to be in on an hour long conversation with Andy Worthington, author of the Guantanamo Files and numerous articles exposing the abuse and torture of those the U.S. has designated "enemy combatants" and beyond the reach of any law. The conversation ranged from the origins of systematic torture at the very beginnings of the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan, to the significance of the continued denial of habeas corpus rights to the prisoners caught in the U.S. dragnet, to the ways in which the Obama administration is continuing, with slight modification, the policies of the Bush Regime towards the Geneva Convention and the treatment of prisoners snared in its war of terror.

Listen here to the conversation with Andy (starting about 3 1/2 minutes into recording).

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Obama’s Administration Attempts to Cover-Up Torture Details
Wednesday, 12 August 2009 06:44


By Kenneth J. Theisen


The Obama administration is currently engaged in an international cover-up of the Bush regime’s abusive treatment of Binyam Mohamed. Binyam was one of the thousands of prisoners taken in the so-called “war on terror” during the Bush years in power. He also became a victim of the CIA’s extraordinary rendition program. Now the Obama administration is engaged in courts in London, San Francisco, and Washington, D.C. to keep the public from knowing the full extent of the Bush administration crimes against this man and others like him.
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Guantánamo And The Courts (Part Two): Obama’s Shame
Wednesday, 12 August 2009 06:54


By Andy Worthington


In the first part of this three-part series examining the Guantánamo prisoners’ attempts to secure their release via the US courts, Andy Worthington, author of The Guantánamo Files, examined the Bush administration’s record in the seven months after the Supreme Court’s ruling, in June 2008, that the prisoners had constitutionally guaranteed habeas corpus rights, and explained how, despite obstruction by the Justice Department, District Court judges reviewed 26 cases, and in all but three found that the government had failed to establish, “by a preponderance of the evidence,” that it was justified in holding the men. This second article (and the final part next week) examine the Obama administration’s record, in its first seven months in office, presenting an under-reported story of ongoing obstruction by the Justice Department, apoplectic judges, and, in the majority of the cases in which a judge has been able to make a ruling, more humiliation for the government.


Bush’s Justice Department lives on in two depressing court rulings

On his second day in office, President Obama issued a number of Executive Orders, which appeared to tackle the worst excesses of the Bush administration’s “War on Terror,” and included pledges to uphold the absolute ban on torture and to close Guantánamo within a year. Given the repeated defeats of the Bush administration’s detention policies in the courts, it was not unreasonable to suppose that Obama would move swiftly to overhaul the Justice Department, which had been rocked by scandals indicating that it had become heavily politicized during the Bush years. Accordingly, it was anticipated that Obama would focus on putting in place new staff who would take on board the Supreme Court’s statement that “the cost of delay can no longer be borne by those in custody,” would prevent the obstruction that was all too apparent in the dying days of the Bush administration, and would urgently review the prisoners’ files to prevent further humiliation by taking unjust and unwinnable cases to court.
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Wednesday August 12, 2009, 8:50 am
Thanks, everyone. David, you make me laugh so much. You have got the chancers in a nutshell.

Wednesday August 12, 2009, 7:19 pm
Thanks so much Eleanor!

Friday August 21, 2009, 10:18 am
Noted with thanks Eleanor! :)