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Report: Missing Flight of 9/11 Style Attack


World  (tags: politics, news, terrorists, Malaysia, flight )

Alexa
- 183 days ago - israelnationalnews.com
Bad at said that the Malaysian plot was being masterminded by Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the principal architect of 9/11. He also told the court last week that he believed the Malaysians, including the pilot, were "ready to perform the act".



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Alexa R. (333)
Sunday March 16, 2014, 11:18 pm
Oops his name should read Badat ..
 

Giana Peranio-Paz (383)
Sunday March 16, 2014, 11:22 pm
It's a very crazy world we live in Alexandra, it's a wonder we are still here, and breathing...Thanks for the update.
 

patrica and edw jones (190)
Sunday March 16, 2014, 11:36 pm
What is the truth of the matter? Will we ever know? We do NOT trust the Indonesians and never will. Remember East Timor, Balibo 5 and West Papua?
 

Carol Dreeszen (364)
Monday March 17, 2014, 12:18 am
This is just insane!!! This world is going completely crazy!! There will be no end to these kind of people until they are eliminated completely!
 

Alexa R. (333)
Monday March 17, 2014, 12:29 am
I agree Pat and Giana. The only motive I can see is to strike fear in the hearts of people everywhere ..

We must not succumb to fear, that will be playing into the terrorists hands.
 

Past Member (0)
Monday March 17, 2014, 12:42 am
Thank you.
 

tasunka m. (334)
Monday March 17, 2014, 2:31 am
We probably will never know the real truth
tova Raba, Alex
 

Carol Kemp (39)
Monday March 17, 2014, 3:00 am
UK government has a lot to answer for, letting muslims do as they please and get away with terrorism, abusing non muslims and free to commit murder. Badat was held in prison in UK but they let him out. He may be giving evidence in court against the terrorists concerned but it's to late so useless. We have to fight fire with fire to protect the world from these people!
 

John B. (215)
Monday March 17, 2014, 7:02 am
Thanks Alexandra for the link to the update and video clip. Read, viewed and noted.
 

Maggie Kearns (7)
Monday March 17, 2014, 11:58 am
Sadly noted. Thanks Alexa!
 

A F. (131)
Monday March 17, 2014, 5:45 pm
thank you
 

Nancy C. (798)
Monday March 17, 2014, 6:02 pm
Thanx Alexandra. I fear that any update will be sad. This gives a plausible explanation to a sickening event. I send love to the families involved...
 

Stan B. (124)
Monday March 17, 2014, 6:25 pm
I wouldn't fly with Malaysian Airlines for free. Looks as if they employ psychopaths as pilots.
 

Helen Porter (40)
Monday March 17, 2014, 8:03 pm
My heart and prayers are with the passengers and those who love them.

How long must this planet be bathed in tears?
 

Bill and Katie D. (78)
Monday March 17, 2014, 8:51 pm
Thank You Alexandra
 

Lynn C. (94)
Monday March 17, 2014, 9:29 pm
noted
 

Andrea Jarich (14)
Monday March 17, 2014, 9:35 pm
Hmm...interesting. Thanks for sharing.
 

Elizabeth M. (66)
Monday March 17, 2014, 9:56 pm
This is still a mystery! But my sympathies go out to the families and friends of those who boarded this plane.
I wonder if we will ever find out what happened? Thanks for sharing as this is the first I have heard of a terrorist group being involved. Thanks Alexandra.
 

Stan B. (124)
Monday March 17, 2014, 10:19 pm
Zee. Good question. The answer is until the world decides to bite the bullet and sort out fundamental Islamists once and for all.
These creeps have succeeded in making flying an absolute nightmare for all of us.
 

Lona Goudswaard (69)
Tuesday March 18, 2014, 3:00 am
Until the plane (wreckage) is found including it's black box, this is all pure speculation. All these theories, including hijacking, make the plight of the relatives and their friends of the passengers only worse. They live between hope and fear and will keep on doing so until the plane is found and what has happened to it reconstructed.
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday March 18, 2014, 5:09 am
Again, agreed Stan B.
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday March 18, 2014, 5:11 am
And I also agree with Giana.
 

Carol Kemp (39)
Tuesday March 18, 2014, 8:40 am
Terrorists are often keen to let the world know what they have done and take credit for atrocities they commit! Perhaps they are sitting back watching the heartache!

Terrorism, even in the mildest, or just suspected, form must be treated as serious in what ever part of the world or what ever country it is found in. It has to be nipped in the bud and those connected to it must be put in a secure prison without release. Bringing back the death penalty would be good! The terrorists are killing innocent people hang the terrorists to protect the innocent!
 

Alexa R. (333)
Tuesday March 18, 2014, 10:09 am
The latest, I quote:

 

Alexa R. (333)
Tuesday March 18, 2014, 10:09 am
WASHINGTON — The first turn to the west that diverted the missing Malaysia Airlines plane from its planned flight path from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing was carried out through a computer system that was most likely programmed by someone in the plane’s cockpit who was knowledgeable about airplane systems, according to senior American officials.

Instead of manually operating the plane’s controls, whoever altered Flight 370’s path typed seven or eight keystrokes into a computer on a knee-high pedestal between the captain and the first officer, according to officials. The Flight Management System, as the computer is known, directs the plane from point to point specified in the flight plan submitted before a flight. It is not clear whether the plane’s path was reprogrammed before or after it took off.

The fact that the turn away from Beijing was programmed into the computer has reinforced the belief of investigators — first voiced by Malaysian officials — that the plane was deliberately diverted and that foul play was involved. It has also increased their focus on the plane’s captain and first officer.

On Tuesday, the Chinese ambassador to Malaysia, Huang Huikang, told reporters that the Chinese government had ruled out suspicions of the Chinese on board, who made up about two-thirds of the 227 passengers, according to Chinese news organizations.
 

Alexa R. (333)
Tuesday March 18, 2014, 10:10 am
Prime Minister Najib Razak of Malaysia told reporters on Saturday that his government believed that the plane had been diverted because its transponder and other communications devices had been manually turned off several minutes apart. American officials were told of the new information over the weekend.

But the Malaysian authorities on Monday reversed themselves on the sequence of events they believe took place on the plane in the crucial minutes before ground controllers lost contact with it early on March 8. They said it was the plane’s first officer — the co-pilot — who was the last person in the cockpit to speak to ground control. And they withdrew their assertion that another automated system on the plane, the Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System, or Acars, had already been disabled when the co-pilot spoke.

Flight 370’s Flight Management System reported its status to the Acars, which in turn transmitted information back to a maintenance base, according to an American official. This shows that the reprogramming happened before the Acars stopped working. The Acars ceased to function about the same time that oral radio contact was lost and the airplane’s transponder also stopped, fueling suspicions that foul play was involved in the plane’s disappearance.

Investigators are scrutinizing radar tapes from when the plane first departed Kuala Lumpur because they believe the tapes will show that after the plane first changed its course, it passed through several pre-established “waypoints,” which are like virtual mile markers in the sky. That would suggest the plane was under control of a knowledgeable pilot because passing through those points without using the computer would have been unlikely.
 

Alexa R. (333)
Tuesday March 18, 2014, 10:11 am
WASHINGTON — The first turn to the west that diverted the missing Malaysia Airlines plane from its planned flight path from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing was carried out through a computer system that was most likely programmed by someone in the plane’s cockpit who was knowledgeable about airplane systems, according to senior American officials.

Instead of manually operating the plane’s controls, whoever altered Flight 370’s path typed seven or eight keystrokes into a computer on a knee-high pedestal between the captain and the first officer, according to officials. The Flight Management System, as the computer is known, directs the plane from point to point specified in the flight plan submitted before a flight. It is not clear whether the plane’s path was reprogrammed before or after it took off.

The fact that the turn away from Beijing was programmed into the computer has reinforced the belief of investigators — first voiced by Malaysian officials — that the plane was deliberately diverted and that foul play was involved. It has also increased their focus on the plane’s captain and first officer.

On Tuesday, the Chinese ambassador to Malaysia, Huang Huikang, told reporters that the Chinese government had ruled out suspicions of the Chinese on board, who made up about two-thirds of the 227 passengers, according to Chinese news organizations.


Reconstructing the Plane’s Path
Prime Minister Najib Razak of Malaysia told reporters on Saturday that his government believed that the plane had been diverted because its transponder and other communications devices had been manually turned off several minutes apart. American officials were told of the new information over the weekend.

But the Malaysian authorities on Monday reversed themselves on the sequence of events they believe took place on the plane in the crucial minutes before ground controllers lost contact with it early on March 8. They said it was the plane’s first officer — the co-pilot — who was the last person in the cockpit to speak to ground control. And they withdrew their assertion that another automated system on the plane, the Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System, or Acars, had already been disabled when the co-pilot spoke.

Flight 370’s Flight Management System reported its status to the Acars, which in turn transmitted information back to a maintenance base, according to an American official. This shows that the reprogramming happened before the Acars stopped working. The Acars ceased to function about the same time that oral radio contact was lost and the airplane’s transponder also stopped, fueling suspicions that foul play was involved in the plane’s disappearance.

Investigators are scrutinizing radar tapes from when the plane first departed Kuala Lumpur because they believe the tapes will show that after the plane first changed its course, it passed through several pre-established “waypoints,” which are like virtual mile markers in the sky. That would suggest the plane was under control of a knowledgeable pilot because passing through those points without using the computer would have been unlikely.

Video | Airline on Plane’s Communication System The chief executive of Malaysia Airlines says it is unclear when the missing plane’s communications system, known as Acars, was switched off.
According to investigators, it appears that a waypoint was added to the planned route. Pilots do that in the ordinary course of flying if air traffic controllers tell them to take a different route, to avoid weather or traffic. But in this case, the waypoint was far off the path to Beijing.

Whoever changed the plane’s course would have had to be familiar with Boeing aircraft, though not necessarily the 777 — the type of plane that disappeared. American officials and aviation experts said it was far-fetched to believe that a passenger could have reprogrammed the Flight Management System.

Normal procedure is to key in a five-letter code — gibberish to nonaviators — that is the name of a waypoint. A normal flight plan consists of a series of such waypoints, ending in the destination airport. For an ordinary flight, waypoints can be entered manually or uploaded into the F.M.S. by the airline.

One of the pilots keys in a waypoint on a separate screen known as a scratchpad, and after confirming that it has no typographical errors, pushes another button to move it into the sequence already in the flight plan. Normal practice is to orally confirm the waypoint with the other pilot, then push another button to instruct the airplane to go there. With the change in course, the plane would bank at a comfortable angle, around 20 degrees, and make the turn. Passengers would not feel anything unusual.

Both Bloomberg News and ABC News previously reported on the programmed turn.

One American safety expert, John Cox, a former airline union safety official, said that someone taking such pains to divert the plane does not fit the pattern of past cases when pilots intentionally crashed and killed everyone on board.

“There’s an inconsistency in what we’ve seen historically,” he said, comparing the disappearance of Flight 370 with two murder-suicides, on an Egyptair flight off Nantucket Island in 1999 and a SilkAir jet in Indonesia in 1997. In those crashes, he said, the pilot involved simply pushed the nose of the plane down and flew into the water. The authorities searched the homes of the pilots in Kuala Lumpur on Saturday, seizing a flight simulator that one of them had in his home.

In an effort to determine whether the pilot had practiced taking down the plane, the authorities have reassembled the simulator for experts to examine. American investigators would like access to the flight simulator and any other electronic information seized from the pilots, but as of Monday night they had not been given access to those materials.

As the search for the missing jet stretched into a 10th day, two of the nations helping in the hunt, Australia and Indonesia, agreed to divide between them a vast area of the southeastern Indian Ocean, with Indonesia focusing on equatorial waters and Australia beginning to search farther south. To the north, China and Kazakhstan checked their radar records and tried to figure out whether the jet could have landed somewhere on their soil.

The Pentagon said Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel had told his Malaysian counterpart that the Navy had sent additional aircraft to search in the Indian Ocean.

Chris Buckley and Keith Bradsher contributed reporting from Sepang, Malaysia, and Edward Wong from Beijing.
 

Alexa R. (333)
Tuesday March 18, 2014, 10:12 am
Apologies for the double post!
 

Beth S. (326)
Tuesday March 18, 2014, 12:38 pm
Lona,

It is wonderful that you are concerned about and supportive of the planes passengers and families.

However, it's difficult for me to understand how a discussion here on Care2 is going to have any effect on passengers and their families. Many of the stories about the Malaysian flight have been in big name newspapers like The New York Times and The Washington Post, which have hundreds of millions of readers.

We understand that EVERYBODY is speculating, including the experts, but this is a worldwide mystery that has very serious implications that in today's world includes all of us, as hijackings and terrorism is a very real possibility here and is a global threat.

There are some additional points not made in this article that help add some pieces to this puzzle, and for those who are concerned and interested, this is an important psychological help in trying to understand what this means, to mitigate some of the feelings of helplessness that many of us have.

For example, one article talked about the fact that the plane made radical changes in it's altitude ascending and descending, including a ascension to 45,000 feet that is beyond the serviceable standards in normal passenger aviation. If the cabin was depressurized by the pilots, it could have killed the passengers by virtue of pulmonary and cerebral edema, to say nothing of suffocation from no oxygen. That would certainly answer the question as to why none of the passengers tried to phone home.

There are many other indications that the government of Malaysia is withholding information for the reasons of "saving face" and for the fact that the government owns 69% of that airline. I'm sure that having unpredictable and rogue pilots on their nation's airline is a message they do not want to project.

Another interesting thing is that Israel is on high alert because of this plane. Obviously they see cause to take any number of scenarios very seriously for security ramifications, as all governments should. I would imagine that the U.S. government has similar concerns, although they may not be letting the public in on it.

I am grateful to know the details as they come out and have the internet to share concerns and ideas with people across the planet. This is an amazing thing to me. So I would like to thank Alexandra for adding to the information that we ALL have the right to know about, especially as Americans and other nationals were on board that plane.
 

Ge M. (217)
Tuesday March 18, 2014, 1:20 pm
The Malaysian government is theoretically in charge of the investigation and is hiding information. The latest is that the pilot and/or co-pilot turned off the communication devices just as they left Malaysian air space and were passed onto the next air tower control then changed direction. Then you must consider that they had up to 7 hours flying time so many Muslim controlled countries were in reach.

I refused to let my son fly back from Australia by any Muslim controlled country airline and it seems that I was right.

 

Patsy Olive (0)
Tuesday March 18, 2014, 1:46 pm
I feel sorry for the families.
 

Shirley H. (49)
Tuesday March 18, 2014, 1:56 pm
Sas, so very sad & unforgivable if true.
 

Sheri Schongold (6)
Tuesday March 18, 2014, 3:51 pm
Sincere sympathies are being sent to the families of the people on that missing flight. I will pray that they are found safe and well.
 

Birgit W. (144)
Tuesday March 18, 2014, 4:03 pm
Thanks for sharing.
 

Carol Kemp (39)
Tuesday March 18, 2014, 4:21 pm
Thank you Alexandra for keeping us updated, you are a wonderful lady! Thanks to all the wonderful people who have commented and taken action! Together we can move mountains - so proud to be associated with such fantastic people! You all take care, Hugs and blessings Carol xxx
 

marie c. (168)
Tuesday March 18, 2014, 6:04 pm
Totally agree with your comment Carol
UK is self destructing
Problems everywhere and non Muslims are being made to feel like second rate citizens .
 

Alexa R. (333)
Tuesday March 18, 2014, 11:03 pm
Thanks everyone for your great comments, what an ordeal this must been for the families. Some of the Chinese families are going on a hunger strike demanding Malaysia is more forthcoming with information.

I'm so please to read that Israel is not burying its head in the sand, but considering the possibilities and updating its security. It would be so devastating to lose more innocent lives due to this plane.

I quote:
The thought of a 9/11 style attack has them worried as it should. Israeli air defenses have been boosted and all civilian aircraft will be required to identify itself upon entering their airspace.

Though the original hypothesis was that the jet crashed, subsequent investigations appear to show that the aircraft flew at least four hours after switching off it’s tracking equipment. If that is true, then the plane could have been hijacked and flown to a friendly country or to a deserted island. They could then use the jet for a future attack, possibly in Israel. There were two of the passengers of Iranian descent, who used stolen passports. Iran would like nothing better than to mount a large scale attack on Israel that cannot be laid conclusively at their feet.

Some have offered the theory that it was a suicide attack by the pilot. That seems unlikely, since if it was suicide, he could have taken the plane straight down into the ocean and there would have been no survivors. There was no need for all the subterfuge.

No demands for ransom have been made for the crew and passengers. The reason for the hijacking at this time is not known. Perhaps, Israel is right to worry. Other countries, too.

In fact, there may be more reason to worry than anyone has considered. Suppose you loaded that plane with nuclear material. The plane would not even have to reach Israeli airspace to do devastating damage and nuclear material is lost or stolen all the time.
 

Jamie Clemons (279)
Wednesday March 19, 2014, 11:06 am
The plane was hijacked by remote control by the us military because of the people onboard were working with some sort of software applications that had military applications that the us wanted. the plane was flown to a small island off Africa and landed on a use air base on an island owned by the UK. At least that is what the people are saying on the internet.
 

Alexa R. (333)
Wednesday March 19, 2014, 2:29 pm
Jamie, do you know on what the people you referenced based their speculation?

Was the pilot American? Attending anti-government rallies? (Or should I say pro-government/military rallies?) were there a couple UK citizens with false passports on the flight?

Just like a detective, we do not have to keep ourselves blind to the clues/ facts until someone strikes again or put their hand up and admit they did it ..

It would be very wise to consider the clues/facts and to take the necessary precautions, avert another strike .. on a personal, national and international level.

It does not need a detective to see that there is no match between the known clues/ facts and the scenario you mentioned.

Or would you suggest we all look the other way, ignoring the clues/facts and wait for the culprits to put their hands up and say they did it?
 

Beth S. (326)
Wednesday March 19, 2014, 3:55 pm
Jamie,

Would you mind posting the links for those news stories? I've seen a lot of articles on the missing flight, but most of it is speculation, and it would be good to know what definitive information has surfaced in the past day or two. Thanks.
 

Patricia Martinez (12)
Wednesday March 19, 2014, 4:28 pm


If the pilots didn't physically detach the transponders, who did?

 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday March 25, 2014, 7:10 pm
The smallest whisper of truth is seldom missed by the intuitive brain...then denied :) Given radical information we usually deny it outright..;)
A Muslim world heaven is a hellish idea.:) NO thank you.
 

Suheyla C. (229)
Saturday April 12, 2014, 1:08 pm
Noted, Thank you Aleksandra for news
 
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