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California Landslide Possible for Sanders After Votes Counted, Election Activists Sue Media for Fraud Complicity


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Darren
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Making it clear that the "presumptive" nomination of Hillary Clinton as the Democratic Party nominee for president is far from a done deal, Bernie Sanders supporters in California are filing suit



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Jill S. (4)
Saturday June 11, 2016, 2:42 pm
Yes, the vote count in California stinks.
 

JL A (282)
Saturday June 11, 2016, 3:16 pm
Thanks Darren. Common Cause filing suit should give it credibility to readers no matter what their candidate preference might be.
 

Dandelion G (373)
Saturday June 11, 2016, 3:26 pm
Good posting Darren.

Arnebeck said at the fair elections conference this week:

"There is no way the Democratic Convention is going to nominate somebody on the basis of obviously stolen votes…the facts are coming out and that’s a fact…We are suing the media as being complicit in the crime. They are acting as accessories after the fact. They are covering up evidence of criminal activity, it’s a crime"
 

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Saturday June 11, 2016, 3:32 pm
RE-POSTED in the Care2 group, "Restoring Our Democracy!"
 

Dandelion G (373)
Saturday June 11, 2016, 3:40 pm
I would listen to the video. As the Lawyer said, Hillary was used in order to scuttle Bernie Sanders campaign for President. The media is being SUED. So even those who have voted and want Hillary, this is one of the things that I've said along the way.

If you are NOT treating ALL Candidates fairly then EVERYONE should be alarmed, because it is YOUR democracy is being ripped from you. Just because it pushed the Candidate you had wanted ahead, that isn't democracy, and next time it could happen to someone that you want.

The BIG guys, don't care, they EAT THEIR OWN. They will do whatever it takes to get what they want even if they USE their own to get it. Dirty......everywhere; dirty.

I'm so tired of people calling us the whiners when it is the Bernie supporters at all levels that are doing all they can to REMOVE the criminals, REMOVE the unfairness, and return the power back to each individual person. As Bernie said, not just a few billionaires.
 

Trish K (57)
Saturday June 11, 2016, 3:44 pm
I hope the suit goes all the way and there is confirmation that the work is being done by ethical people. That matters to me.
 

Judy C (97)
Saturday June 11, 2016, 3:49 pm
It's great to see this information being publicized, that a credible, responsible investigation is gathering grounds for a lawsuit. Thanks Darren.
 

JL A (282)
Saturday June 11, 2016, 4:43 pm
Common Cause, a nonpartisan organization, filed the suit about the alleged fraud in OH which was in March so the 96 delegates awarded are now in question.

CA voters have standing to bring suit. Sanders cannot be held responsible for other people not tolerating fraud and such suggestions show a lack of respect and knowledge for how legal responsibility actually is in our body of laws.
 

JL A (282)
Saturday June 11, 2016, 4:43 pm
96 to Clinton for those that do not remember.
 

JL A (282)
Saturday June 11, 2016, 4:51 pm
Both candidates filed cases about AZ (Clinton awarded 47 to Sanders 35 3 not yet awarded); article suggests IL may have a case (104 to Clinton, 78 to Bernie); other news indicates one is likely (and not from Sanders) in Puert0 Rico--and then CA clearly erroneously showing 338 vs. 207...just these are enough to switch who has the most popular votes and pledged delegates...all super delegates should be thinking twice about who they support at the convention if they care about the Party and/or their own political futures IMO.
 

JL A (282)
Saturday June 11, 2016, 5:04 pm
"Prosecution

In countries with strong laws and effective legal systems, lawsuits can be brought against those who have allegedly committed fraud; but the deterrent of legal prosecution would not be enough. Although the penalties for getting caught may be severe, the rewards for succeeding are likely to be worth the risk. The rewards range from benefits in contracting to total control of a country.

In Germany there are currently calls for reform of these laws because lawsuits can be and are usually prolonged by the newly elected Bundestag.

In the United States one such case was in Pennsylvania where Bill Stinson won an election based on fraudulent absentee ballots. The courts ruled that his opponent be seated in the state Senate as a result.[53]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_fraud

 

JL A (282)
Saturday June 11, 2016, 5:27 pm
The video makes it clear that the case will cover the known fraud in every state with how it is structured...thanks so much Darren--you have given me back a lot of hope for a candidate I can respect and support ethically come Nov.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday June 11, 2016, 6:11 pm
Thanks Darren,

Can't view the vid, technical issues. From what I read of the article, why not sue? Sue'em all! As most Americans already know, the process of casting and counting election votes is rotten to the core especially in some key states in our Union. There are either old worn out machines that don't correctly punch holes in paper or very hackable new machines - it is the norm here in the "land of the free".

'Possible Landslide....' are pretty big words to use. However, until I see/hear something like this: "When asked to comment on the voter-fraud court case filed by his supporters in California and other states, Sanders said, "Good. I think we should pursue every legal means at our disposal if votes were some how mishandled and I want the media to make aware such discrepancies....."(you get the idea)... But Bernie's silence on the matter is not a good sign. Imo, these cases even though legit, just won't have the power of Bernie, his campaign surrogates, or the media behind them and so may fade away.....if history is any indication.

I'm working on an injured PC. I'm surfing on eggshells...so I'm unable to visit sites/or watch vids when I'd like to....I don't know if Bernie has already commented on these cases specifically. If so, than the cases have a chance. If not, everyday he waits will hurt him.

 

Roxie H (350)
Saturday June 11, 2016, 6:12 pm
great post :) excellent news #FeelTheBern
 

JL A (282)
Saturday June 11, 2016, 6:34 pm
Randy, the media is being charged as an accessory after the fact in thr case according to the video (suppressing exit polls in OH that were actually taken in an earlier portion of legal actions and thereafter not doing them to reduce the chance for voters or others to notice discrepancies that would be attributable to the alleged fraud)
 

JL A (282)
Saturday June 11, 2016, 6:55 pm
BMutiny has a post that covers allegations, etc., in other states not mentioned in this post at:
http://www.care2.com/news/member/911530155/3992115
 

Animae C (517)
Saturday June 11, 2016, 6:59 pm
Illegal patches on computers?!?!?
STOLEN VOTES!!!

WOW this is FANTASTIC!!
It's all out in the open!

He says Bernie has WON & we'll see it!!!

Watch the video!!

Thanx Darren
 

Rose Becke (141)
Saturday June 11, 2016, 7:32 pm
THanks Darren go Bernie
 

Gary L (138)
Saturday June 11, 2016, 7:59 pm
the entire primary was rigged by Debbie the dodo and other insiders I have little faith that the truth will come out it would nice though
 

Roxie H (350)
Saturday June 11, 2016, 8:25 pm
Did the Press Take Down Bernie Sanders?
The rebellious nature of the Vermont senator's presidential bid didn't fit the mainstream media's predetermined scenario.
http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/06/11/did-press-take-down-bernie-sanders

feel free to re-post and share
 

Shirley S (186)
Saturday June 11, 2016, 9:12 pm
The world is alerted to this duplicity. America has "egg on it's face again".
 

Katie & Bill D (111)
Saturday June 11, 2016, 10:41 pm
Thank you Darren!!!
 

Katie & Bill D (111)
Saturday June 11, 2016, 10:53 pm
EXPOSE THE "DIRTY DOGS!!!
THANK YOU ALL
Thank you JLA
Go Bernie !
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday June 11, 2016, 10:53 pm
Thanks JL A for the brief vid synopsis. Also, thanks to Roxy H for the link above. Here's a brief excerpt:

"Sanders was the victim of something else: the script. The media have a script for elections, and in that script the presumed losers are always marginalized and even dismissed. The script, then, dictated that Sanders wasn’t going to get favorable coverage. Or, put more starkly, the MSM pick the losers and then vindicate that judgment."

Yes, the "Perceptional Gatekeepers" stood to lose billions and billions of dollars in a Sanders presidency. Their goal was to make sure Bernie didn't win while maintaining a perceptional air of "fairness". The Internet is calling them out on their bias treatment, though.

There may be some things at the convention the media are not be able to script out.


 

Darren Woolsey (218)
Saturday June 11, 2016, 11:43 pm
BTW, on #CheatingHillary on twitter, there's a link about the level of election fraud:

http://theantimedia.org/heres-a-rundown-of-election-fraud-in-the-2016-presidential-race-so-far/
 

Evelyn B (62)
Sunday June 12, 2016, 3:17 am
Thanks, Darren

I find it strange that anyone (other than the interested parties) has any objection to verification of whether there has been voter fraud or not! Why - if someone is sincerely pro HC - should (s)he suppose that all such fraud be anti-Bernie? Sign of an unwelcome feeling that the accusation is CORRECT??? If there is nothing to hide, why object?

The videos are very interesting, as is the article
And thanks also for the April article about a rundown on fraud (at that date)
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday June 12, 2016, 4:03 am
Bernie should continue to be relatively quiet, as I believe there will be a rapidly escalating exposure of not just immoral behavior, but illegal, on the part of the Clinton campaign, her aiders and abettors---the media and others. Unconstitutional blocking, not counting votes---even altering regulations, rules, laws, at the last minute. A long-running ruse of an election, since before the official bell rang for the race to begin and 400 superdelegates tossed their votes Hillary's way. There is not a question of immoral and illegal action there.

I am for this suit and think every single state ought to join in solidarity and file as well. There is more than mentioned that could and should be brought to court, or settled out of it. But, the bottom line is this---2016 finds our vote creating either a live or die situation for the planet and all living on it. With or without a president in place that knows this and spends most of their energies and money on trying to be our salvation, there still needs to be a revolution to remove the corruptors from our government and other places of power.

Yes, I am about to name-drop my ancestor again---In the mid 1770's, President John Adams warned "We The People" that if they allowed the oppression, suppression, manipulating of the deceivers, destroyers, controllers---then they would come down upon them so hard and fast, that it would be too late to resist.

As long as there are enough still breathing who want the Spirit Of '76 and true democracy returned to our government, and as long as there are enough who want corruption removed and insist upon all environmental issues, especially Climate Change, to be earnestly addressed as an emergency---then it is not too late to resist. Thanks Darren for a very critically important posting.
 

Valbusy M (82)
Sunday June 12, 2016, 4:12 am
Thanks for posting, shared!
 

Marco C (31)
Sunday June 12, 2016, 5:31 am
The dirt is everywhere. America has allowed it, even condoned it and it has been with us for awhile (it briefly surfaced in Gore vs Bush). Hanging chads in Florida, voter disenfranchisement all over, ballot manipulation in California. What's next? Its like a Hollywood movie. Around the globe our supporters are hanging their heads in dismay, our enemies delighting in the ever widening cracks in American "exceptionalism". Have we lost control over our own nation?

Perhaps America sleeps no more. No wrong doing by anyone, anywhere, anytime. The rest of us work too damn hard to allow our integrity to be taken from us. It is about time that the virtuous stand up and no longer allow themselves to be down trodden, invalidated, besmirched, humiliated and abused.

Challenge, and undue self centered, calculated, skeeming pseudo, phony, half cocked, slip shod, lying, cheating, stealing by anyone, anytime, anywhere. Take a stand for virtue, honesty, value and integrity, support it when you have an opportunity. Do it right, do it well and laude those that do.

Ahhhh........that will never work...............or will it?
 

Arielle S (313)
Sunday June 12, 2016, 7:14 am
The media has been unfair to Bernie all along - ignoring him, only talking about him when talking about Hillary, insisting he didn't have a chance...but then, the media is owned by what? 5 groups now? In my perfect world, this count would be proven unscrupulous and dishonest and Bernie would get the credit he so deserves.
 

Anne P (174)
Sunday June 12, 2016, 7:51 am
Oh yeah. It's all coming out now. Hillary Clinton is a deeply unpopular candidate (especially in California) and can only win if the election is massively rigged in her favor. Bernie needs to take this all the way to the convention. Thanks for posting, Darren!
 

Beryl Ludwig (77)
Sunday June 12, 2016, 8:47 am
Thanks for the comments . I agree with most everything said and certainly learned more about the election and the links were helpful too.
Appreciate the summary of the videos since I am out of gigs with my alloted salitte feed.
Darren thanks for the article. And BMT thank you for sending me the link.
 

Jo S (619)
Sunday June 12, 2016, 10:12 am
Thank you Darren & JLA.
Noted & shared.
 

Mitchell D (131)
Sunday June 12, 2016, 12:32 pm
Wow!
If there be fraud, yes, nail 'em!
"America has egg on its face, again!" We have allowed too much of this to go on, on both sides of the aisle. Carl Rove ought to be in jail for it, and who knows how many others!!??

 

JL A (282)
Sunday June 12, 2016, 12:44 pm
from an OH DEM Party email just received:
"On Tuesday Judge Algenon Marbley issued a ruling striking down Ohio Republican legislation that made it easier to disenfranchise absentee and provisional voters. The Ohio Democratic Party was a plaintiff in this case, as well as the recent case that restored Golden Week for Ohio voters.

"For the second time in less than a month, Ohio voters have won a huge victory in the courts, and Secretary of State Jon Husted is being forced to stop making it harder for Ohioans to vote and for every vote to be counted," said Ohio Democratic Party Chairman David Pepper. "This trial showed quite clearly that every lawfully cast vote was not being counted here in Ohio. Many lawfully registered Ohioans have had their votes cast aside because of new and unnecessary requirements that were shown to be discriminatory. Judge Algenon Marbley found that legislation enacted by Ohio Republicans and Governor John Kasich and enforced by Husted violated the Fourteenth Amendment and Voting Rights Act. It's time for Husted, Kasich and Ohio Republicans to stop violating our constitutional right to vote."
 

Maryann S (115)
Sunday June 12, 2016, 6:04 pm
Thanks for sharing Darren!
 

Katie & Bill D (111)
Sunday June 12, 2016, 6:24 pm
I am still stunned to see about the stealing of the Votes and right here in Ohio, My Vote! I know Kasick is a Bad Dog and They all Should be Punished.. And so many other VOTES! People Should have a Right to VOTE and it be Counted. WE HAVE TO FIX THIS!
Thank you Darren
 

Edith B (146)
Sunday June 12, 2016, 9:11 pm
Thanks for posting. I hope there is a ruling on the suit very soon. If Bernie's campaign had accomplished nothing else, he seems to have awakened many Americans who were oblivious to the fraud in our government. The media has downplayed all his earlier successes, and are complicit, too. Our media is corporate owned and controlled, we no longer really have a FREE PRESS.
 

Birgit W (160)
Monday June 13, 2016, 8:46 am
Thanks for sharing Dandelion.
 

Dandelion G (373)
Monday June 13, 2016, 1:15 pm
Was Darren Birgit, but I'm sure he says thanks. :-)
 

Jae A (320)
Monday June 13, 2016, 3:32 pm
I am surprised by those who just want a female president, regardless of her political 'lean', even if that means it is Hillary...who is by all stats a rightwing moderate. Seeing how Obama turned out to be the best candidate for the GOP in the long run by his being a 'centrist' was a disappointment but to support another , or Hillary who is far more right than left in her policy views seems very unproductive for progressives/liberals but she's what the media Corporate bosses want so there we have our present 'situation'. At least there are those who have the means and muscle so ta say that are doing all they can to bring the election corruption to the attention of as many as possible. It didn't help when Bush did the same and worse, first time around the GOP managed to have all our votes discounted via having the rightwing majority of the Supreme Court pick him as our President. Next election the fraud and media cover ups were endless but he still remained in the White House. Tragic choice as it turned out to be for our nation as a whole but billionaires rejoiced at their win of course . Will the people ever learn that voting against their own good is the way to go.....see the entire GOP support base for those facts, and those who support Hillary.

....big sigh...[which is replacing a string of harsh and offensive wording for some, via myself on this topic :-)]
 

Dandelion G (373)
Monday June 13, 2016, 3:42 pm
Well a Corporate minority and now a Corporate woman - people bought into the "first" and that was what the few at the top were in hopes of. They play the masses like a fiddle and cheer all the way to the bank then fly off to their fancy mansions and sip fine wine laughing how they pulled another fast one.
 

JL A (282)
Monday June 13, 2016, 4:30 pm
Nancy posted another article on election problems:
http://www.care2.com/news/member/830372471/3992511
 

Lois Jordan (63)
Monday June 13, 2016, 6:19 pm
Noted. Thanks for posting, Darren....and Dandelion for the link.
I am so glad to see this! And, I really hope the truth comes out and people are punished for their misdeeds. How can anyone honestly WANT to ever vote again knowing their vote isn't even being counted???
Really glad to see that people aren't just 'giving up and going home." That has been happening far too long.
Now is the time to fight this corrupt system----with every legal tool we can.
And, I honestly believe Bernie is probably doing the right thing by not making an issue.....because he knows the Media and Establishment Dems would only start calling him a 'sore loser.' We can't have that. We must advocate for him.
 

JL A (282)
Monday June 13, 2016, 6:36 pm
Bernie's percent increase by 0.1% with the latest update which included Butte County (Bernie spoke in Chico which has a large college and Bernie is taking over 60% of the votes there) and Del Norte (far north forest and environmental issues where Bernie has over 57% of the votes so far) and Lassen (far north forest and environmental issues where Bernie has over 53% of the votes so far), one large population county in So CA, San Bernardino where the difference has dropped to 13% (Clinton lead) , large in No. CA San Francisco where her lead is now less than 10%, and Tulare (Central Valley) where lead is less as well. Over a third of the counties have done no updates since the last on election night.

Still an estimated 2,303,639 more to count--717,862 of them are provisional ballots.
Current counted voted difference is 473,638...
 

JL A (282)
Monday June 13, 2016, 9:04 pm
CA legislative response (from an email just received):
"California Clean Money Campaign and all the other organizations asking you to vote "Yes" on SB 1107 to lift the ban on voluntary public financing of campaigns and prohibit foreign contributions to candidates. Local governments and the state deserve the flexibility to explore public financing systems to strengthen the public trust and amplify the voices of everyday Californians"
 

JL A (282)
Monday June 13, 2016, 9:07 pm
Sign the petition for SB 1107 to allow public financing of elections!
https://www.yesfairelections.org/petition/sb1107.php?&ms=newsletter-2016-06-13-sb1107-assm-elections
 

JL A (282)
Monday June 13, 2016, 9:58 pm
Clinton down 0.2%, Bernie up another 0.1%. New counties include Alameda (where Berkeley and Oakland are), Kern (Bakersfield-southern Central Valley and oil country), Monterey on the Central Coast, and San Diego. Imperial (Palm Springs) is the only county showing Clinton over 60%--but that is still based on election night (all the others have reported more votes and the percents dropped below that level). Uncounted ballots report hasn't been updated since the earlier shown above. No county is done yet.
 

SuSanne P (193)
Tuesday June 14, 2016, 4:15 am
TY, Shared yesterday.
 

JL A (282)
Tuesday June 14, 2016, 8:24 am
Bernie up another 0.1% with Tuolumne (vote difference approx. 30 between the two here).
 

Animae C (517)
Tuesday June 14, 2016, 8:47 am
Thanks for signing the petition for SB 1107!
Thanx JL
 

Jae A (320)
Tuesday June 14, 2016, 12:25 pm
Palm Springs is in Riverside county, not Imperial. We wish it were Imperial as their electric company has the best rates of any in Ca. Sections of our valley are in Imperial county but not Palm Springs/Palm Desert/Rancho Mirage/Indian Wells :-( . Palm Desert/Rancho Mirage/Indian Wells are Republican strong holds....for us that is the most depressing/negative fact about living here ! Even more so than the heat in the summer. That goes away with the change in season but the wealthy Republican Corporate influence doesn't . That's a stench that remains all year round :-(. With such a large Republican population , it stands to reason that those who will vote Democrat would vote for her. ....
Palm Springs itself is heavily populated by GLBT persons and three of the other cities, out of seven, in Coachella Valley, that are all basically connected by back to back city limit signs are heavily Latino populated, so more votes for her and or Bernie. Minorities are, I believe, a majority for Coachella Valley as a whole....that being GLBT and the Latino communities. Half of the white population [Republicans by majority] here are only part time residence during 'season'...Jan.-May. It's that fact that helps the rest of us maintain our sanity :-) .
 

Jae A (320)
Tuesday June 14, 2016, 12:47 pm
I am against any voter cheating in any form when it comes to our voting rights and the counting of all votes...no matter if those guilty of it are Repubs or Dems etc. We've enough corruption in our government system to allow votes to miscounted or lost or whatever the excuse is for any discrepancies......We should have learned a lesson from the 2000 election when the discrepancies were out of control and the excuse of too expensive to vote again, or recount votes again ...so the Supreme Court appointed Bush as President.
Obviously it would have been a hell of a lot cheaper to recount the votes, or have another vote take place, which would have meant that Bush would have lost in either case...the savings of not having the Iraq war for starters would have been huge. over that of making sure all votes were placed and counted properly. Instead the powers that be took away all our votes via the republican Supreme Court majority being the ones who decided who the President would be .
If we don't make sure the voting process is totally on the up and up from all sides we all lose in one way or the other . To just blow it off when things need challenged but aren't due to lame excuses such as 'time lines' / expense / party unity etc. we're only hurting our Democracy as well as ourselves individually...i.m.o.
 

JL A (282)
Tuesday June 14, 2016, 5:28 pm
Thanks for the correction Jae and the added insights, which are important for us all to consider no matter who we support.

Clinton down 0.2 more and Bernie up 0.2 more--difference has dropped to under 500,000 votes. More votes from Inyo, Lassen, Mono (Bernie ahead), Nevada (Bernie over 60%), San Benito (Central not quite coast-about 800 vote difference)m Santa Barbara (So.CA coast switched to Bernie lead), Santa Clara, Santa Cruz (Major Bernie lead), Siskiyou (far north major Bernie lead), Ventura (So.CA coast ),
m Yuba (Northern Central Valley/Bernie lead) and Los Angeles,

Twelve of 58 counties have had no updates. Estimated ballots left to count is 1,959,90.
 

JL A (282)
Tuesday June 14, 2016, 6:36 pm
Rob posted another article on uncounted primary votes:
http://www.care2.com/news/member/422061787/3992680
 

JL A (282)
Tuesday June 14, 2016, 8:32 pm
Clinton down another 0.1% and Bernie up another 0.1% with El Dorado County (mine-close to neck and neck-about 300 vote difference), Orange County , and Riverside County (both So.CA) and no update to unprocessed ballot report.
 

JL A (282)
Wednesday June 15, 2016, 8:40 am
Another article on the counting-doesn't mention the missing ballots the LA Times asked about though:
Why California Still Hasn't Processed Over Two Million Ballots from the Primaries; Bernie Supporters Scratching Their Heads
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/why-california-still-hasnt-processed-over-two-million-ballots-primaries-bernie
 

JL A (282)
Wednesday June 15, 2016, 9:26 am
The LA Times has an article about voters bringing election day concerns to the Board of Supervisors (I've reached my maximum so I can't read or post it)...
 

Darren Woolsey (218)
Wednesday June 15, 2016, 9:26 am
Shared Rob's article and your link JL A. over social media to spread awareness.
 

JL A (282)
Wednesday June 15, 2016, 11:21 am
An update today from Napa, where Clinton lead higher than almost anywhere, leaving statewide percents unchanged.
 

JL A (282)
Wednesday June 15, 2016, 2:04 pm
Mariposa update--no change in statewide percents since total votes under 2500...a Bernie ahead by 10% county
 

JL A (282)
Wednesday June 15, 2016, 2:44 pm
Clinton lost another 0.1% with a Santa Clara update and less than 473,000 vote difference. SOS estimate is still over 1.5 million votes to count (nothing more on the 5 million additional votes in none of the numbers the LA Times reported about).
 

JL A (282)
Wednesday June 15, 2016, 3:56 pm
Sutter update--no change in statewide percents since total votes under 7000...difference just 7% and under 500 votes.
 

Donna G (42)
Wednesday June 15, 2016, 5:18 pm
Too many Hillary supporters as well as the corporate media have been including the Superdelegates all along. There is no way that Hillary had the requisite number of delegates before the California Primary. The Superdelegates do not vote until the convention. The convention will be contested since neither Hillary nor Bernie have the required number of delegates. Of course, Hillary has more delegates. But Bernie is not that far behind her and if he can present a convincing argument as to why he is the best candidate, then it is possible a significant number of Superdelegates will cast their vote for him.

However, I think a person would stand a better chance of getting struck by lightening twice than for the Superdelegates to come around to Bernie's way of thinking.

Thing is, the campaign between Hillary and Donald will not be so much about why we should vote for Hillary; but, why we should vote against Trump. The DNC is going to try to instill fear into the voters by asking them to vote against Trump by voting for Clinton.

I will not succumb to that fear-mongering. Independent voters make up about 41 or 43% of all voters. We do not have to vote for Hillary Clinton because somebody else says that Trump could end up as President. Honestly, Clinton worries me more than Trump does.

Donald Trump is a demagogue. He's also arrogant. He's been divorced a number of times. He's also filed bankruptcy a number of times. He has no history in political office. In some ways, I believe that Donald Trump is even Left of Hillary Clinton.

If Bernie is not the nominee, I will vote for Jill Stein in November.
 

JL A (282)
Wednesday June 15, 2016, 5:35 pm
Bernie gained another 0.1% so less difference between with San Mateo added votes (Clinton lead), San Francisco (less of a Clinton lead), San Diego, Sacramento, Kern, Imperial (highest Clinton percent), Fresno and San Luis Obispo (Bernie leading now).
 

JL A (282)
Wednesday June 15, 2016, 8:34 pm
No percent change with San Benito and Colusa additions--only 30 vote difference in Colusa, one of the smaller population counties counting provisional ballots. Four of the smallest counties report zero ballots left to count, but counts not yet final.
 

JL A (282)
Thursday June 16, 2016, 6:59 am
With Orange's additions last night, Clinton's percent went down another 0.1% and voted difference down another 1,000.
 

JL A (282)
Thursday June 16, 2016, 9:56 am
Santa Clara added more votes this morning, but percent didn't change and vote count difference affected less than 1000 votes.
Last night was the first night since election night that votes were updated outside of normal work hours for state employees suggesting overtime approvals in Orange and at the SOS now which may also indicate pressure from somewhere to get it finished sooner that the law permits.
 

JL A (282)
Thursday June 16, 2016, 5:07 pm
Bernie up another 0.1%; Colusa vote difference fewer than 30 now (they are working on provisional ballots there), more from Lassen (fewer than 200 vote difference as snow may affect them again), Merced (Central Valley), Riverside, San Francisco, Tehama (Bernie leads by over 5% far north in the Central Valley), Trinity (north and Bernie leads by over 28%). Six counties have not updated since election night. Provisional ballots to be counted is about 10,000 less now (691,000). Midday (before some of these updates) 1.37 million left to count. Counted vote difference went down more than 30,000 today and is a tad over 434,000
 

JL A (282)
Thursday June 16, 2016, 6:57 pm
If you live in CA, and voted by mail, you can check on your ballot at:
http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/ballot-status/
I just did mine and last action is that it was received by them on May 12th--does not show as counted yet.
 

JL A (282)
Friday June 17, 2016, 7:25 am
Alameda may have finished mail ballots and started on provisional with the update they submitted about COB last night. Colusa's 30 vote difference apparently is at the point they reported all ballots counted (made me wonder if 31 or more Bernie supporters didn't vote there after AP report). The Alameda votes changed statewide percents so the difference is only 10.5% now (vote count difference increased again).
 

JL A (282)
Friday June 17, 2016, 7:00 pm
Looks like my comment disappeared...less detail this time...down to10.1% difference statewide, Lots of counties all areas of state today. One more showing zero ballots (Mariposa: Bernie's by 10%). Two larger counties (including Santa Clara with the 72% mailed in) with 200 or fewer mailed so next update should begin on the provisional ballots. 488,000+ mail-in left, 664000+ provisional and over 48,000 allots that are damaged or ballots that could not be machine read and need to be remade, and ballots diverted by optical scanners for further review (a bit higher than number yesterday).
 

JL A (282)
Saturday June 18, 2016, 6:15 am
Last night finished with dropping to a 10.0% difference in statewide vote with more votes from Alameda, Calaveras, Riverside, San Benito, and Shasta (22 of 58 counties adding votes yesterday). 23 counties favor Bernie, some by large margins. A couple of more counties, including large vote counties like Alameda, now have a less than 5 percent difference. The uncounted report was not updated after my last comment (1.2 million) and the uncounted is even making radio news here now.
 

Sara G (104)
Saturday June 18, 2016, 7:29 am
Our whole election system needs to be overhauled. And we especially need to get the big money interests out of politics. Hang in there Bernie. You're our best hope!
 

JL A (282)
Saturday June 18, 2016, 3:43 pm
San Joaquin County added votes (One of the early Bernie rallies was in Stockton which has a higher black population than most of our cities and had bankruptcy issues with 2008 fall out) which reduced the vote difference by a couple thousand, without changing the percent. These were all mailed ballots.
 

JL A (282)
Monday June 20, 2016, 8:03 am
Since I saw a story on apparent voter intimidation in Siskiyou Counry apparently targeting Hmong voters this weekend, I'll add that the current reported totals for the county show Sanders with a 20% margin over Clinton.
 

JL A (282)
Monday June 20, 2016, 9:21 am
Update this morning just reduced vote difference to 9.9% (just over 460,000 votes) with additional votes from Santa Clara (on Sat. they had about 12,500 left, only 30 mail and the rest provisional).
 

JL A (282)
Monday June 20, 2016, 11:28 am
Amador County (Gold Country) has added votes no percent change, but number difference now under 460,000. On Sat. they had under 300 mail ballots and almost 400 provisional left to count plus 40 of that "other category."
 

federico bortoletto (46)
Monday June 20, 2016, 11:47 am
Notato,grazie.
 

JL A (282)
Monday June 20, 2016, 5:17 pm
Kings update now doing provisional ballots, no percent change but vote difference reduced by about 100. Still have 609 provisional to count. Santa Clara has 5000 more provisional to count. The Amador numbers didn't change from earlier report off of the uncounted ballot report.
STATEWIDE
394,020 mailed
637,595 provisional
43,373 other
1,074,988 total left to count
 

JL A (282)
Monday June 20, 2016, 7:59 pm
Imperial (the highest percent for Clinton county) added votes--down to 151 mail ballots and 1868 provisional there. Also more from San Diego (where an election fraud lawsuit has been filed) now down to 62,000 mail and 73,000 provisional. San Francisco as well now done with mail ballots and 1095 provisional and 318 "other" to count. San Luis Obispo (Bernie ahead) added, too, with 606 mail and 3873 provisional and 435 "other" ballots left to count. Siskiyou (Bernie way ahead) done with mail, 1042 provisional and 255 "other" to count.

While statewide percent didn't change, the number difference dropped to well under 458,000
 

JL A (282)
Monday June 20, 2016, 9:02 pm
Down to just over 455,000 vote difference, and still just 9.9% difference with added votes from Orange, which should have included the last 120 mailed ballots and the start of the 40,532 provisional ballots they have.
 

JL A (282)
Tuesday June 21, 2016, 11:31 am
No percent change, but vote difference increased by a couple hundred with added votes from San Mateo (had over 28000 mail ballots to count last night) and Santa Clara this morning (down to 5000 provisional ballots to count last night).
 

JL A (282)
Tuesday June 21, 2016, 3:33 pm
Oddity: when the uncounted ballot report was updated, no update today from Santa Clara and San Mateo but Trinity and Alameda changed to zero ballots remaining...
 

JL A (282)
Tuesday June 21, 2016, 4:27 pm
Percent difference dropped to 9.5% and number difference to under 449,000 with Calaveras (difference there down to 1% yet supposedly had zero to count as of the 17th), Yolo (where Davis is and Bernie moved ahead with this update), Shasta (Bernie still leads and only had “other” [900] as of the 17th according to the uncounted report), Sacramento, and Los Angeles. Most if not all would be mailed ballots in the counties I didn’t say anything about.
 

JL A (282)
Tuesday June 21, 2016, 5:46 pm
No percent change, but number just under 447,000 with more from San Diego and Ventura--both from mailed ballots (200 of those left in San Diego and over 2,000 in Ventura). However, time of update on estimated uncounted is inconsistent on San Diego.
 

JL A (282)
Tuesday June 21, 2016, 5:49 pm
No percent change, but number just under 447,000 with more from San Diego and Ventura--both from mailed ballots (200 of those left in San Diego and over 2,000 in Ventura). However, time of update on estimated uncounted is inconsistent on San Diego.
 

JL A (282)
Tuesday June 21, 2016, 8:28 pm
Rob just posted this analysis of our counting ballots here:
http://www.care2.com/news/member/422061787/3994206
 

JL A (282)
Tuesday June 21, 2016, 9:23 pm
Percent down to 9.4% and number difference well under 446,000-with added votes from Monterey at least mostly from mail ballots since they had over 11000 left as of earlier today, Orange is probably mostly provisional since they only had 120 mail left and over 40,500 provisional, and Riverside should be all provisional since were at zero on mail.
The last report on uncounted estimates (before these updates indicated):
237,921 mail
511,429 provisional
35,097 other
784,447 total
 

JL A (282)
Wednesday June 22, 2016, 5:00 pm
Percent down to 9.3% and number difference under 445,000 with additional provisional ballot votes from Santa Clara. 15 counties show no ballots left to count on the estimated uncounted report; an additional 9 show not mailed in ballots.
 

JL A (282)
Wednesday June 22, 2016, 5:48 pm
No percent change and number difference increased to just over 445,000 with additions from San Diego, San Mateo, Fresno and Contra Costa this afternoon. San Mateo and Contra Costa would've been all mailed ballots, the other two at least some provisional.
Estimated uncounted in 5pm update:
176,546 mailed
474,233 provisional
29,699 other
680,478 total
 

JL A (282)
Wednesday June 22, 2016, 8:27 pm
More from Orange, mostly provisional since only 183 mailed were left on the 5pm report, dropping number difference to 444,520 but no change in percent.
 

JL A (282)
Thursday June 23, 2016, 8:14 am
3 Ways the Media Has Failed Our Democracy in Covering the Election
It's not just Fox News — mainstream news organizations have betrayed the public's trust this election season.

http://www.alternet.org/media/ways-media-has-failed-our-democracy-covering-election
 

JL A (282)
Thursday June 23, 2016, 4:22 pm
No percent change, number difference reduced by a tad over 400 votes with additional from San Francisco, Santa Clara and Tuolumne. However the uncounted report update didn't change for them. The first two should've been provisional while the third would've included some mailed.
176,522 mailed
468,928 provisional
19,491 other
664,941 total
 

JL A (282)
Thursday June 23, 2016, 5:34 pm
No percent change, number difference now well under 442,000 with updates from Alameda, Alpine, Butte, Napa (% for Clinton down by 6% so no longer among the most support), San Diego, and again from Santa Clara.
Alameda, Alpine, Lassen and Tuolumne say they are done while 7 counties have not done updates since election night. However, the estimated uncounted report shows more than 1000 ballots uncounted in the counties saying they are done (mail, provisional and other)--and the totals remain unchanged on that report despite an update COB today.
 

JL A (282)
Thursday June 23, 2016, 5:52 pm
The following 25 of CA’s 58 counties are now showing Bernie ahead:
Yuba, Yolo, Tuolumne, Trinity, Tehama, Siskiyou, Sierra, Shasta, Santa Cruz, Santa Barbara, San Luis Obispo, Plumas, Nevada, Mono, Modoc, Mendocino, Mariposa, Lassen, Lake, Inyo, Humboldt, Glenn, Del Norte, Butte, and Alpine.

An additional 3 are such a tiny vote difference additional votes or recounts easily could change who is ahead.
 

JL A (282)
Thursday June 23, 2016, 8:28 pm
No percent change and number difference reduced a couple hundred with update from Orange, which should have included mostly provisional ballots along with the under 200 mail ballots showing on the uncounted report.
 

JL A (282)
Friday June 24, 2016, 11:34 am
No percent change and number difference reduced another couple hundred down to 441,106 with first update since election night from Madera, near Fresno in the Central Valley who was estimated to have over 5000 votes left to count last night, over 3000 of them mail.
 

JL A (282)
Friday June 24, 2016, 2:28 pm
Tulare (Central Valley) added votes without changing the percent and dropping number difference to 440,990.
Update of the estimated left to count (which may get updates without the related votes getting added and vice versa in recent days) now is:
163,328 mail
464,233 provisional
18,891 other
646,452 total
 

JL A (282)
Friday June 24, 2016, 5:55 pm
Percent drop to 8.9 percent difference and 428,489 with additional votes from Butte (Bernie ahead at 62%--rally in Chico), Contra Costa, Fresno, Los Angeles, Sacramento, San Bernardino, San Diego, San Luis Obispo (Bernie ahead), San Mateo, Santa Clara, and Ventura. Santa Clara shows as none left to count (they had 72% mail ballots) as does Fresno. Ventura and Sacramento have finished counting mail ballots.
 

JL A (282)
Friday June 24, 2016, 8:33 pm
Percent difference dropped to 8.7% (53.9 vs. 45.2%) yet vote difference increased by 86 votes with updates from Marin, Orange, Riverside and San Benito.
Uncounted at approx. COB estimates were:
161,491 mail
420,073 provisional
24,260 other
605,824 total

Seven counties say they are done and 7 haven't updated since election night.
 

JL A (282)
Friday June 24, 2016, 8:42 pm
Although I have not saved all the relevant numbers, I consider it probable the apparent anomaly above is attributable to the other 5 candidates, who had been pretty steady at sharing 1.0% now only sharing 0.7% and thus changing the percents with the larger number as the divisor now.
 

JL A (282)
Monday June 27, 2016, 2:27 pm
No weekend updates. Today percent difference is still at 8.7% while number difference dropped to 427,991 with update from Solano county which should have been a combination of mail, provisional and any other ballots-they now show as no ballots left to count and became the 8th county to indicate they were done.
 

JL A (282)
Monday June 27, 2016, 5:31 pm
New updates dropped number by one, not percent change: Santa Clara, Shasta (Bernie ahead) and Sierra (Bernie ahead). Shasta and Sierra have now done their final updates as has Butte, Madera. The counties without updates are mainly ones where Bernie led on election night.
Estimated unprocessed ballots:
160,449 mail
407,799 provisional
18,624 other
586,872 total
 

JL A (282)
Monday June 27, 2016, 8:37 pm
Vote difference now 417,147 and down to 8.5% difference with additional votes from Los Angeles, San Diego and San Mateo; estimated unprocessed not updated again and none of these three are done reporting yet.
 

JL A (282)
Tuesday June 28, 2016, 7:20 am
Update from Monterey last night increased vote difference s couple hundred yet left percent alone;not their final report and estimated unprocessed was not updated again.
 

JL A (282)
Tuesday June 28, 2016, 4:40 pm
Colusa did their final update today and ended with a 26 vote difference, which equated to 2% in favor of Clinton. Total vote difference is 417,377 and still 8.5%. Estimated unprocessed report was updated and now shows:
STATEWIDE
160,031 mail
341,249 provisional
18,624 other
519,904 total
Based on the pattern I observed, the processed may mean at the county level without the updated votes having been reported to the SOS yet. Twenty counties show no votes unprocessed.
 

JL A (282)
Tuesday June 28, 2016, 5:51 pm
Percent difference dropped to 8.3% and number difference down to 415,820 with updates from Monterey and Ventura. Both counties are done with mail ballots on that estimated report. New time stamp, with same statewide totals as above.
 

JL A (282)
Tuesday June 28, 2016, 8:39 pm
No percent changes, number difference down to 414,500 with updates on votes from Riverside and San Diego. Riverside shows as done with mailed a few days ago, so presumably mostly provisional. San Diego had only 200 mail left, so may have begun on provisional with this update.
 

JL A (282)
Wednesday June 29, 2016, 11:28 am
Additional from San Luis Obispo (Bernie leads) this morning, percent remains 8.3% difference and number difference down to 414,126. Six counties have not updated since election night and 12 are done. Estimated unprocessed not yet updated since I last provided.
 

JL A (282)
Wednesday June 29, 2016, 5:45 pm
Percent difference dropped to 8.1% and number difference to 406,852 with vote update from Los Angeles; Madera now reports no votes not processed.
Estimated unprocessed:
STATEWIDE
154,228 mail
283,183 provisional
18,616 other
456,027 total
 

JL A (282)
Wednesday June 29, 2016, 8:17 pm
There are 637,688 ballots cast beyond those counted on the estimated unprocessed and reported votes in the two major parties. No way to know if they were registered in other parties so couldn't vote in these primaries or votes in transition to being reported.

Percent remains at 8.1% and number difference is also unchanged with vote updates from San Diego. Sacramento shows as having submitted an update, but no vote updates showing (yet) and they still had over 15,000 provisionals to process. I may have checked while SOS is processing their updates.
 

JL A (282)
Wednesday June 29, 2016, 8:59 pm
Percent is still 8.1% and vote number difference down to 404,088 with Sacramento's updated votes.
 

JL A (282)
Thursday June 30, 2016, 7:44 am
About 10pm an update with no percent change increasing vote difference to 404,241 from Monterey update
 

Jae A (320)
Thursday June 30, 2016, 2:16 pm
"Debbie Wasserman Schultz Served Class Action Lawsuit for Rigging Primaries"
http://observer.com/2016/06/debbie-wasserman-schultz-served-class-action-lawsuit-for-rigging-primaries/
 

JL A (282)
Thursday June 30, 2016, 4:29 pm
Percent remains 8.1% and number difference is 402,829 with updates from Kern, Marin, Monterey, Orange and Yuba; Yuba's is a final update (Bernie won) as is Orange.

Kern, Marin only had provisional, Monterey and Orange had processed all, and Yuba had over 600 mail, over 600 provisional and over 400 other totaling 1,799 as of last estimated unprocessed report.
 

JL A (282)
Thursday June 30, 2016, 6:12 pm
Percent difference dropped to 7.9% and number to 400,860 with update from Mariposa (Bernie leads), Modoc (Bernie Leads), Mono (Bernie leads), more Monterey, Napa, Plumas (Bernie leads), San Diego, San Francisco, San Luis Obispo (Bernie leads), and Trinity (Bernie leads).

This was first update since election night for Modoc and Plumas.
The estimated unprocessed report shows 29 counties with zero left and:
STATEWIDE
146,253 mail
188,112 provisional
16,095 other
350,460 total
 

JL A (282)
Thursday June 30, 2016, 8:33 pm
Number difference dropped to 399,254, percent still 7.9% with update from Stanislaus (Central Valley) which had almost 2,500 mail left, 6,000 provisional and almost 2,900 other ballots to process as of last update.

Humboldt, Mendocino, Placer and Sonoma are now the only ones without updates since election night and 14 did their final reports.
 

JL A (282)
Friday July 1, 2016, 11:34 am
Percent remains 7.9%, number difference dropped to 398,423 with Stanislaus and San Joaquin's final updates making it 24 of the 58 counties who are done, including some more urban with larger populations like San Francisco and Orange. Estimated unprocessed has not been updated since last I reported it.
 

JL A (282)
Friday July 1, 2016, 12:46 pm
Number difference dropped to 394,176 with Mendocino's final report(the 25th complete): with Bernie having more than double the votes of Clinton in the county.
Estimated unprocessed (which includes tens of thousands from Stanislaus and Mendocino) with updated report:
146,253 mailed
188,112 provisional
16,095 other
350,460 total
 

JL A (282)
Friday July 1, 2016, 2:39 pm
Percent dropped to 7.7% and number to 393,688 with Inyo's (Bernie won) final update, Merced (Central Valley) update, San Luis Obispo final update (Bernie won), and Siskiyou final update (Bernie won); Tulare has submitted another update, but those votes don't show yet.
 

JL A (282)
Friday July 1, 2016, 5:58 pm
Percent still 7.7%, number difference dropped to 388,406 with Alpine's final update (Bernie won), Contra Costa's final update as been submitted, but not yet included in vote counts (has 49,000 unprocessed votes on latest update of that report), El Dorado update (switched to Bernie leading), Fresno update, Imperial update, Kings final update, Los Angeles update (now no mail ballots left), San Benito update, San Bernardino final update, more votes from San Diego, votes from Tulare showing now, and Ventura final update.
Estimated unprocessed report shows 40 counties now at zero. Only three counties haven't done updates since election night. 58% (n=33) have submitted their final updates.
127,054 mail
156,022 provisional
4,706 other
287,782 total
 

JL A (282)
Friday July 1, 2016, 8:44 pm
Percent still 7.7%, number difference dropped to 387,339 with update from Riverside which should all have been provisional ballots.
 

JL A (282)
Sunday July 3, 2016, 9:03 pm
Judy just posted

UNCOUNTED: The True Story of the California Primary
Posted on July 3, 2016 by Yves Smith
at:
http://www.care2.com/news/member/864072146/3996568
 

Darren Woolsey (218)
Sunday July 3, 2016, 10:57 pm
Bookmarked the video also, and shared over social media to spread awareness.
Thanks Judy and JL A.
 

JL A (282)
Tuesday July 5, 2016, 11:32 am
Unprocessed report has been updated with 43 counties showing zero not processed (includes Los Angeles)--majority left are in counties Bernie is ahead in or provisional (or both). No additional vote updates showing yet (7.7% difference).
96,854 mail (about half in Sonoma)
46,412 provisional
3,321 other
146,587 total
(3rd attempt)
 

JL A (282)
Tuesday July 5, 2016, 5:32 pm
Difference dropped to 7.3%, number difference 373,612 with vote updates from Amador, Contra Costa, De; Norte (Bernie won), El Dorado (Bernie won), Fresno, Humboldt (Bernie won), Los Angeles, Marin, Nevada (Bernie won), Placer, Plumas (Bernie won), San Benito, San Diego, Santa Barbara (Bernie won), Santa Cruz (Bernie won), Sutter, and Tuolumne (Bernie won). Just 11 counties do not yet say they have submitted their final vote update.
 

JL A (282)
Tuesday July 5, 2016, 8:53 pm
Dropped to 7.1% and 362,423 difference with updates from Lake County (Bernie ahead), Riverside, Sacramento, more from San Diego, Santa Clara, and Tulare.
Updated unprocessed report:
45,023 mail
23,841 provisional
1,591 other
70,455 total
 

JL A (282)
Wednesday July 6, 2016, 2:18 pm
Humboldt (Bernie ahead), Lake (Bernie ahead, San Mateo and Sonoma (Clinton ahead by 2.5%) are the only ones not showing as having submitted final updates; Humboldt and Sonoma last submitted on election night.
One weirdness observed is San Diego had at least on two occasions, two vote updates in a day for a single update submitted (where the person from OH was hired). I observed it on single occasions for a couple of other counties. Since San Diego submitted more updates than Los Angeles, Orange and San Francisco did, total votes in the update seems unlikely to be explanation.
 

JL A (282)
Wednesday July 6, 2016, 4:00 pm
Back down to 7.1% and 363,799 difference. Additional votes from Imperial, Mendocino (Bernie), Placer, Sonoma (flipped to Bernie by 4.7%).
 

JL A (282)
Wednesday July 6, 2016, 7:01 pm
Still 7.1%, but down to 363,579 with added votes from Lake (Bernie ahead), Lassen (Bernie ahead), Nevada (Bernie by more than 20%), Sacramento, San Luis Obispo (Bernie ahead), San Mateo, and Yolo (Bernie ahead now). Bernie leads or won in 27 of the 58 counties. Several Clinton leads are by very few votes (e.g., Colusa by 26).

Estimated unprocessed update shows only the 900 from San Mateo now. Humboldt is the only one showing as no update since election night; just Lake and San Diego are additional counties not yet showing they have submitted their final reports (all their votes).
 

JL A (282)
Saturday July 9, 2016, 6:58 pm
Presidential votes were due by the 5th, all others by the 7th. No vote updates from SOS since the 7th, yet it has not been certified as final. My county has posted what they certify as final, yet my family's mailed votes do not show as counted though were received timely (information legally required in CA). I've always been able to see it soon after county says final...
 

JL A (282)
Sunday July 10, 2016, 1:06 pm
State finally wraps up primary vote count — a month after election day
http://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/State-finally-wraps-up-primary-vote-count-a-8349006.php
 
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