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Rahman
- 1364 days ago - thedailystar.net
Where are the so-called "vast majority of peaceful Muslims" taking action to rein in violent Muslims and stop such attacks? They're doing nothing to stop attacks on religious minorities because such deviant acts are 100% Islamic. And the world is silent



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Rahman Qureshi (76)
Monday March 17, 2014, 8:40 am
Muslims attacked a Hindu temple in Gazipur, Bangladesh, which is a Muslim majority region. All the damaged Hindu figurines were dumped in a field near the temple. The Muslim thugs also left notes threatening the Hindus to stop worshipping idols or face bomb attacks.

The note, reflecting the level of "intellect" among pious Muslims, read:

"Stop statue worship. Next here worship we will cast bomb or all of you accept (Islam) else go to India."

It is quite ironic that Muslims accuse Hindus and other religions of worshipping idols when Muslims worship the black stone in Mecca! Eliminate that black stone and Islam is done. There is no Islam without that relic pagan symbol. Muslims flock to it by the millions to kiss the vagina-shaped stone.

The Qur'an-incited hatred towards Hindus (mushrikoon) produces such violence. Even though the Muslim Officer-in-Charge of the temple vandalism and threat, Muhammad Omar Faruk of Kaliakoir Police Station, said the attack on the temple was a "stray incident", it is anything but stray.

In Pakistan, because Muslims said they saw burnt Qur'an pages in a garbage bin near a Hindu's home, the pious Muhammad-crazed Muslims went berserk (normal pious Muslim behavior) and set fire to a Hindu community center. This was just yesterday:

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/crowd-sets-fire-hindu-center-pakistan-081738718.html#2ArUiMQ

Muslims have murdered 80 million Hindus throughout Islam's bloody 1400+ year history. That 80 million figure is part of the larger 270 million jihad figure, and that number gets added to daily thanks to pious Muslims. Just in the last 13 years, pious Muslims have committed over 22,000 deadly jihad attacks globally.

Islam is the problem. Muslims who are genuinely peaceful people are either ignorant of what Islam teaches or they ignore it. Either way, they are not Muslims according to Islamic doctrine. The rest of Muslims are the most pious ones committing jihad, and the remainder support their terrorist efforts by financing them, providing cover for them like in mosques, or simply rejoice when they see the terror and destruction caused by pious Muslim activity.

The root problem is Muhammad and his book the Qur'an. Muhammad was the world's biggest terrorist, not only crediting his success with terror (Bukhari #220) but having his book (Qur'an 3;151, 8:39) and life example promote terrorism for the last 1400+ years through today. Muhammad is called al-Insan al-Kamil, which means the perfect human being. Since pious Muslims consider Muhammad to be perfect, then his terrorist, raping, torturing, oppressing, murderous practices are considered the perfect way for a pious Muslim to live.
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Terry King (113)
Monday March 17, 2014, 8:58 am
My imaginary friend hates your imaginary friend.... The stupidest reason for violence in the universe!
 

Mike H (252)
Monday March 17, 2014, 9:06 am
This is evil
 

Debra Tate (17)
Monday March 17, 2014, 9:13 am
We need to wipe the pious Muslims, MB and AQ and all affiliates off the face of the earth! Any who believe Muhammad to be perfect are SICK, MENTALLY DERANGED PSYCHOS!
 

Justin Vale (13)
Monday March 17, 2014, 9:22 am
oh, so they're supposed to stand by and let those little godless hindu rapists defile their women and girls?
no way. they gotta hit back. they've been pushed too far for generations now. it's about time they stand up and protect their women.
 

Ruth Ann W (198)
Monday March 17, 2014, 9:47 am
Do we really think that spewing hate back to haters will work or make any difference. This incident may have been done by Muslims or made to look like it was done by Muslims. There are sick people every where, in every religion, every culture. Read Debbie Tate and Justin Vale's comments and see where hate gets us.

Thank you, Rahman for sharing. Wish the article was less inflammatory but we need to know what is happening. Not to perpetuate the hatred but to see what is going on in the world.

What I do not understand is humans doing these things (in either direction). If you don't like me, walk away, ignore me, don't buy my products. Why try to destroy me or my place of worship. Or my family. Or my country.

What we do not learn, we repeat. What frightens us, from lack of understanding, we want to hurt. Let's try to spend some of this anger, hatred, hurt and anger energy working to better understand, to help others understand and to learn to protect yourself from haters, even if they are folks that you would think would not be against us.

Hate accomplishes nothing, as I said. try some respect?
 

Jennifer Ward (40)
Monday March 17, 2014, 9:52 am
The problem lies in the teachings of a bandit manifesto.
 

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Monday March 17, 2014, 9:59 am
A fundamentalist ideology that permits violence against its perceived enemies without question represents a perfect "permission" for a psychopath. Even if out of Bangladesh’s Muslim population of 136 million only 0.1% are potentially violent and easily influenced by ideology that is 136,000 fanatics hell bent on murdering non-believers. In any language or culture that is quite a threat to a relatively small and shrinking minority (2% now) who by no means enjoy much protection from the police or the courts.
 

Gillian M (218)
Monday March 17, 2014, 10:11 am
Ruth, the lack of understanding is about the true nature of Islam. Islam is a hate filled ideology which is in direct contravention of the UN Convention of Human Rights.
 

Madhuri Pillai (22)
Monday March 17, 2014, 2:38 pm
Bigotry gets one no where, an eye for an eye etc, Justin Vales comments arise from ignorance. Hinduism is a philosophy, and is all-inclusive tolerant, when Zorastrians were persecuted by the muslims in Iran they came to India, there were Jews in Kerala. Islam came to India through blood shed, mass killing,rapes, and forced conversions. If we had no religion world would be better place, there would be no us against them. Violence and intolerance and Justin's tit for tat philosophy are products of small minded people.
 

. (0)
Monday March 17, 2014, 2:39 pm
Gillian, I agree with you, except I would add today's militant Islamics have no concept of what true Muslim belies is. It has been twisted, defiled by leaders who want control as far as they can go.
Will India react? Probably not. They don't have a group to apprehend, nor the money to investigate.
 

Rahman Qureshi (76)
Monday March 17, 2014, 4:31 pm
When there are people who are irrational and barbarians there is no possibility to talk rationality to them. Their minds are warped beyond any comprehension to be able to comprehend anything sane!

Ruth Ann said: "Wish the article was less inflammatory but we need to know what is happening. Not to perpetuate the hatred but to see what is going on in the world."

As we all wish we never had to see these kind of happenings but this is the real life in Muslims countries..this IS what is going on and is coming right here to America! If we do not engage ourselves in learning the knowledge of these barbarians we as well will end up with this kind of terror and horror! The Muslim Brotherhood is already infiltrated in our White House!
 

Justin Vale (13)
Monday March 17, 2014, 5:00 pm
oh yaeh, smarty pants.
what about communal riots? ( which by the way is code for pogroms )
they've been killing muslims and raping their women and girls forever and nobody cared, but let them touch a white girl and everybody goes crazy.
they are girls too. even if they are muslims they are still girls. if they would have done to african american and puertorican women what they have done for over a century to muslim women there wouldn't be a hindu left on earth.
 

. (0)
Monday March 17, 2014, 5:21 pm
muslims hate everyone.
 

Rahman Qureshi (76)
Monday March 17, 2014, 6:13 pm
Justin, sorry to tell you but you have no idea what you are talking about. Do you know that rape is part of Islamic doctrine? Sura 4:3, 4:24, 23:6, 24:33, 33:50-52, 70:30. And based on Muhammad's "perfect model conduct", there are too many to citations to list between both Sunnis and Shi'a sources.

Rape IS Islamic. While various cultures suffer from rape, such as America, rape is illegal. But in Islam, rape is a divine Muslim male right. For instance, in the Pakistan-Bangladesh War of 1971, 90,000 Muslim soldiers raped 250,000 Benagali females. That isn't a "tiny fraction" of Muslims, that is like the whole army. And none of them received any punishment from Muslim Pakistan because rape is 100% Islamic.

When I talk about Islamic rape, there is no minimum age for females to be raped. This is why Muslims countries consistently rank low on woman's issues. Islam governs those countries, and it is un-Islamic to forbid Muslim males from raping. They do it not only to non-Muslims, but to Muslim females and even their own cousins and sisters.

if any Muslim female was ever raped by a non-Muslim, I condemn that individual. But again, let it be the other way and there is silence from the world, and it has been the other way from the time of Muhammad through today.

As for "let them touch a white girl and everybody goes crazy", you're wrong. Pious Pakistani males have predominantly been operating sex slave rings of white girl as young as 11, raping them to celebrate the "holy" month of Ramadan and throughout the year. The white police refused to investigate for years out of fear of being called "racist" for going after the Muslim perpetrators.

In Sweden, pious Muslim males have turned Oslo into the rape capital of Europe. 1 in 4 of those white girls will be raped by a pious Muslim man...and that with Sweden's Muslim population at only about 10%! There is denial from the white administration, just like in the UK.

In America, we have already seen Muslims involved in sex slavery as in the high Muslim Somali population in Minnesota. It makes no difference what country Muslims come from, so long as they increase in population they rape. And so rape occurs unpunished in Muslim countries all the time. The most common targets of rape are the non-Muslim population, whether Hindu, Christian, Buddhist, Sikh.

Rape IS 100% sanctioned in Islam. 100%.
 

GGmaSAway D (195)
Monday March 17, 2014, 6:31 pm
Hate begets Hate...Islam begets haters...Islam breeds Fanatics...Islam is a cult of the worst kind...
It's working. Take a look at how many countries are now being taken over by Islamists. They're spreading, in some places very slowly, but they are gaining ground. That's the very scary part. The US isn't helping the situation either.
 

Rahman Qureshi (76)
Monday March 17, 2014, 6:31 pm
Oh yeah Justin, I forgot to mention the rape capital of the world, Mandela's South Africa. When it was known as apartheid South Africa (in which the majority of those killed were blacks murdered by Mandela's ANC party) because whites were the head of the country the world shouted at them. Around 21,000 people died during apartheid South Africa, mostly fellow blacks killed by Mandela's people. When Mandela was released, and he never should have been for his 156 crimes of public violence and terrorism, attacks against whites ensued, particularly against the white farmers known as Boer. If the world cried out at 21,000 people killed during apartheid (again, most of the bodies from Mandela's people), you'd think the volume of the outcry would be so loud the world wouldn't be able to sleep. But the world sleeps, because the victims are whites. There is a genocide going on now against whites in Mandela's South Africa. Which number is more, 67,000 or 21,000? 21,000 killed during apartheid, 67,000 whites killed in the most gruesome ways since the end of apartheid! Because the apartheid is now against whites, no one cares. Where are all the music concert benefits for the white women being raped by South African blacks? White women get raped with broken bottles. Where is all the news coverage about the whites being marginalized and exterminated? 67,000 is more than 3x of apartheid, but when the victims are white no one cares. Why? The victimhood narrative has already been painted as whites and Christians are the bad people and everyone else are victims. When blacks attack whites, that violates the narrative, so instead of reporting the news, the media says nothing and instead praises the terrorist Mandela!
 

patrica and edw jones (190)
Tuesday March 18, 2014, 12:14 am
The Muslims are certainly good at vandalising and defiling everything they touch. What a pity their brains seem to be wired for hate and desecration........nothing changes in that area.
 

Gysele van Santen (213)
Tuesday March 18, 2014, 12:29 am
so much hate. even here on C2. very ugly behavior.
 

Jordan G (37)
Tuesday March 18, 2014, 12:47 am
Thanks, Gysele, you have it right.
 

(0)
Tuesday March 18, 2014, 1:20 am
Take pity on poor old Justin Vale he seems to get his geography, history and centuries a tad mixed up!
 

Giana Peranio-paz (400)
Tuesday March 18, 2014, 1:46 am
The hate and the violence in this world are growing and growing and the problem is that we have no control over it, and it's spreading. We fear tomorrow, my own personal policy is live today, be as happy as you can and do what you love to do. Here in Israel we never know what will happen tomorrow, so we are used to living for today, the Americans have to learn this art, and Europe is also learning it, slowly.
 

Berny p (24)
Tuesday March 18, 2014, 3:57 am

Today's militant Islamics have no concept of what true Muslim belies is. It has been twisted, defiled by leaders who want control as far as they can go.
AND NOBODY IS STOPPING THEM!
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday March 18, 2014, 4:12 am
Agreed Giana. Green star coming your way. And yes, there is too much hatred on here. 'Care2' no longer seems like an apt title for this site.
 

Winn Adams (177)
Tuesday March 18, 2014, 6:47 am
Violence is never the answer to anything.
 

Winn Adams (177)
Tuesday March 18, 2014, 6:48 am
Completely agree with Giana and Natalie T.
 

Mitchell D (103)
Tuesday March 18, 2014, 12:36 pm
Terry got it so right!
 

Madhuri Pillai (22)
Tuesday March 18, 2014, 1:18 pm
Allan, Indian Govt has never reacted to the internal affairs of their neighbouring countries in such cases, only if the security of country is threatened along the borders, it's not the cases of having the money. They have their elections around the corner, they might through diplomatic channels voice their concern.
 

Rahman Qureshi (76)
Tuesday March 18, 2014, 4:16 pm
To: Madhu and Terry and Mitchell -

Madhu, your rebuttal to Justin was great. I just have one problem with this line:

"If we had no religion world would be better place, there would be no us against them." I'm not sure if you're aware of how Atheist regimes treat their own people, especially Christians. Have you ever read details on the torture inflicted on Christians by Communist regimes? Communism is inherently Atheistic. Communist torturers did everything they could to mock and break Christians.

Please allow me to quote an excerpt from the book Tortured for Christ. This is an account of a Christian who himself was tortured by men who believed "no religion would be a better place":

The Communist torturers often said, "There is no God, no hereafter, no punishment for evil. We can do what we wish."

A pastor by the name of Florescu was tortured with red-hot iron pokers and with knives. He was beaten very badly. Then starving rats were driven into his cell through a large pipe. He could not sleep bcause the rats would attack him.

He was forced to stand for two weeks, day and night. They brought his 14 year old son to the prison and began to whip the boy in front of his father, saying they would continue to do so until he renounced faith in God. The poor man was half mad by this point, The boy neither his father renounced their faith in Jesus, so the Communists beat the child to death with blood spattering on the walls. The father was never the same.

Handcuffs with sharp nails on the insides were placed on our wrists. In the bitterly cold cells, as our bodies shivered our wrists would be torn by the nails.

Christians were hung upside-down on ropes and beaten so severely their bodies swung back and forth with each blow. Christians were also placed in ice-box refrigerator cells coated with frost and ice. I was thrown into one with little clothes. Prison doctors would observe when we were near death so they could remove us only to put us back in, over and over again. Even today there are times I can't bear to open a refrigerator.

What Atheists (Communists) have done to Christians surpasses any possibility of human understanding, I have seen Communists whose faces shone with rapturous joy as they tortured Christians.

I have testified before the U.S. Senate. I described what Atheists did to Christians, such as Christians being tied to crosses for four days and nights. The crosses were placed on the floor and hundreds of prisoners had to pee and defecate over the faces and bodies of the Christians. Then the Christians attached to the crosses were erected and the Communists mocked: "Look at your Crist! Ho beautiful he is! What fragrance he brings from heaven!"

I described how, after being driven nearly insane with tortures, a priest was forced to consecrate human feces and urine and give Holy Communion to Christians in this form. This is only a very small part of what happened on one Sunday and on many other Sundays. Other things, if I told them, would cause my heart to fail. The tortures, even worse than already described, are too terrible and obscene to put in writing.

_______________________

Madhu, and others like Terry and Mitchell, face the reality of Atheism. if there is no God, then there is no accountability. Atheist regimes make the laws, and the laws are especially against Christians.

You prefer this to teachings of the Bible like "love one another and "do unto others as you would have them do unto you"? Are the teachings of Jesus so horrible to you that you'd prefer the fruits of Atheism?

Let me first begin with the choicest words from top Atheists to give you and idea of the "morality" and "answers" which Atheism / Darwinian Evolution provides:

"A man who has no assured and ever present belief in the existence of a personal God or of a future existence with retribution and reward, can have for his rule of life, as far as I can see, only to follow those impulses and instincts which are the strongest or which seem to him to be the best ones." - Charles Darwin, autobiography p.94

"At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilised races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace, the savage races throughout the world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes, as Professor Schaaffhausen has remarked, will no doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilised state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla." - Charles Darwin, the Descent of Man, p. 521

"Naturalistic evolution has clear consequences that Charles Darwin understood perfectly. 1) No gods worth having exist; 2) no life after death exists; 3) no ultimate foundation for ethics exists; 4) no ultimate meaning in life exists; and 5) human free will is nonexistent." - William Provine, 1998 Darwin Day address, University TN, Knoxville

"We are survival machines-robot vehicles blindly programmed to preserve the selfish molecules known as genes. Much as we might wish to believe otherwise, universal love and the welfare of the species as a whole are concepts that simply do not make evolutionary sense." - Richard Dawkins in his book, The Selfish Gene

"Some unfortunate humans - perhaps because they have suffered brain damage - are not rational agents. What are we to say about them? The natural conclusion, according to the doctrine we are considering, would be that their status is that of mere animals. And perhaps we should go on to conclude that they may be used as non-human animals are used - perhaps as laboratory subjects, or as food." - James Rachels, Created From Animals: The Moral Implications of Darwinism, p. 186

"Humans are no better than bacteria" - Dr. Eric R. Pianka, speech during receipt of Distinguished Scientist of the Year Award, 2006, University Texas at Austin

"Among some animal species, infant killing, appears to be a natural practice. Could it be natural for humans too, a trait inherited from our primate ancestors? Charles Darwin noted in The Descent of Man that infanticide has been "probably the most important of all checks on population growth throughout most of human history."" - Barbara Burke citing Darwin, 1974, "Infanticide", Science, Vol. 185, p.653

"Rape is evolutionary, biological, and natural...Our male ancestors became ancestors in part because they conditionally used rape." - Randy Thornhill, "A Natural History of Rape", 2001 Lecture at Simon Fraser University

"Evolutionary theory applies to rape, as it does to other areas of human affairs, on both logical and evidentiary grounds. There is no legitimate scientific reason not to apply evolutionary or ultimate hypotheses to rape." - Randy Thornhill, 2000, A Natural History of Rape, Cambridge: MIT Press

"We believe that severity, violence, slavery, danger in the street and in the heart, secrecy, stoicism, tempter's art and devilry of every kind - that everything wicked, terrible, tyrannical, predatory, and serpentine in man, serves as well for the elevation of the human species as the opposite." - Frederick Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil, 2007 reprint, p. 35

Terry, the "imaginary friend" of Christians teaches love for mankind and animals and teaches a man to love his wife so much to die for her. Atheism teaches no purpose to life, no value to life, other than to do whatever you want. Atheist Communist regimes did and continue to do what they want, which is cause immense suffering especially of Christians. While Madhu and you and others may have personal beliefs about treating others with respect, you have no moral authority to impose that on others. There is no moral authority in Atheism. We are simply products of chance floating through the universe. If humans torture others, to whom they have to answer according to Atheism? No one. Everyone meets the same hopeless fate of having no existence after the grave. So why not torture and rape? That is Atheism playing itself out in the real world.

Perhaps if Atheists followed the "imaginary friend" of Christians and of Jews, Atheists would instead possess the view that we all are made in the image of God and therefore have immense value rather than teaching meaningless existence and the immoral consequences of such meaninglessness.
 

DaleLovesOttawa O (198)
Tuesday March 18, 2014, 8:45 pm
Violence in the name of any religion is not acceptable. That goes without saying.

All aspects of militant fundamentalism are a threat to individual liberties since fundamentalists tend to be very intolerant and their mindset is carved in stone. This applies to all fundamentalists who are doctrinaire in nature, be they Islamic,Christian or anyone else. The hard core fundamentalists often resort to hatred, violence, intolerance to achieve their objectives.

I agree with Ruth Ann W. I also see the same sort of intolerance promoted by some who seem to despise all Muslims on the planet and see them as some species of sub-human. Intolerance is often a two way street.

"Rape is Islamic", pontificates Rahman Qureshi who seems to be on an endless crusade in Care2 everywhere pointing out anything negative about Islam, also stating that some Atheists are responsible for torturing Christians although there are a lot of them who never would torture a fly, let alone a person.

Rape has occurred on the planet before Islam arrived and is endemic in the West and other nations as well, it is hardly an Islamic creation. Rape culture exists everywhere and India for example has quite a history of it along with western nations. That does not mean that there is no rape culture in Muslim nations, obviously there is as with the rest of the world Women throughout the history of the world have been endlessly victimized by rape culture.


I see that Rahman Qureshi continues with the everything that Muslims/Islam does is the scourge of the earth campaign. It would be interesting to look at Christians during the Crusades.


Debbie Tate said that: "We need to wipe the pious Muslims,MB and AQ and all affiliates off the face of the earth!"

Now, that sounds as fanatical as some of the hard core fundamentalist Muslim extremists. Sounds like the same sort of intolerant hatred to me. Many religious people are pious without being fundamentalist extremists. Pious simply means devoutly religious, which can apply to Christians and other religions as well. Being pious is hardly being a fanatic unless one is an fundamentalist extremist which applies to most religions. Of course those pointing out that fundamentalist extremists exist in all religions are called dupes of Muslims or whatever insult is the flavour of the day. In the end, to me, fundamentalist extremists are the threat, no matter which religions they espouse.

One thing for certain, it does help to have a separation between church and state, Western nations for the most part have accomplished this although there are some fundamentalists who yearn to bring the state back into religion and impose religious based laws.


patrica and edw jones say that: "The Muslims are certainly good at vandalising and defiling everything they touch."

Fascinating how some can label every Muslim responsible for the acts of hard core fundamentalists which is like labelling every white American responsible for the KKK which would be another ridiculous assumption. Fundamentalism is its extreme form can exist in all religions, there was the bloody history of the Crusades that cost countless lives, the Spanish Inquisition and other actions as well.


Rahman Qureshi said:"When there are people who are irrational and barbarians there is no possibility to talk rationality to them. Their minds are warped beyond any comprehension to be able to comprehend anything sane!"

If you discuss die hard fundamentalists of any religion that often applies, but it appears that some simply wish to bash anything that is Islamic or Muslim as if anyone of that faith are all fanatics which is as unfair as saying that all Christians are fanatics on account of some hard core fundamentalist fanatics that would take western democracies back to the stone age if they could ever seize power in the U.S. and the rest of the world.




 

Rahman Qureshi (76)
Wednesday March 19, 2014, 1:07 am
Dale O. - Instead of drawing attention to this important story, instead of noting it you try to exonerate Islam.

When you say "violence in the name of any religion is not acceptable", I agree with that concept. As for you, the issue is how you define violence. What if it not in the name of religion. Is it then OK with you? Also, do you consider it to be violence if a police officer shoots a man stabbing people? Would the police officer's action be violence to you?

Instead of using the generic word "violence", let's use the word terrorize. When pious Muslims terrorize, you assume they are incorrectly doing so in the name of their religion. By saying "violence in the name of any religion is unacceptable", then you are saying Islam / Qur'an / Muhammad are unacceptable. Terrorism is intrinsic to Islam. If I'm going to choose between your "knowledge" of Islam and that of the spiritual leader of an entire network of Muslims, Sheikh Qaradawi, hands down the Sheikh wins. If you think you know more about Islam than him, please say so and prove yourself a fool.

Here's what the Sheikh, spiritual leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, said:

"If they had gotten rid of the apostasy punishment Islam wouldn't exist today."

Muhammad said: “Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him” (Bukhari 9.84.57). The death penalty for apostasy is part of Islamic law according to all the schools of Islamic jurisprudence, Sunni and Shi'a alike. This is so intrinsic to Islam that terrorizing people into acting like Muslims is acknowledged in Sura 9:57. When the terrorist Muhammad died, the first Caliph Abu Bakr waged the two year Ridda wars to terrorize back into Islam those who left Islam after thinking they were free of its terror reign. So many left Islam that it took two years of waging war against the apostates to regain the level of terrorism seen under Muhammad.

What the Muslim Brotherhood Sheikh says is absolutely accurate. Terrorism is intrinsic to Islam. Islam has to terrorize its own people into staying Muslim. That's how weak Islam is. And because Islam is so weak, it has to terrorize to expand Islam. That is how Muhammad expanded Islam, as his own words in the most authentic Muslim source of Sahih Bukhari #220 make clear: I have been made victorious with terror.

So terrorism (violence if you will) is 100% Islamic. If you say "extremists" act like that, then you've called the founder of Islam an extremist. Go to a Muslim country, let's say Pakistan, and walk around with a sign that says "Muhammad was a violent extremist". You will see exactly how many "tiny minority of extremists" exist. Then come back and report to us. Oops, sorry, you wouldn't be able to because you'd be dead! All those pious Muslims will show you just how "peaceful" Islam. You will be murdered, ironically, for "defaming" Muhammad by calling him a violent extremist. Pious Muslims will have no problem proving just how "wrong" you are that Muhammad and his true followers are violent by murdering you.

Now on to your blanket statement, trying to apply it to Christians. "The hard core fundamentalists often resort to hatred, violence, intolerance to achieve their objectives." Do you know who is the most "hardcore fundamentalist" in Christianity? Jesus Christ. On what planet do you live that you consider "love thy neighbor as thyself" to be "hatred, violence, intolerance"? In case you don't know, those are Jesus' words. A Christian is one who patterns his or her life after Jesus.

Are there Christians who commit violence. Yes. But would they be classified as following Jesus or going against him? The answer, of course, is they would be going against his teachings and example. In contrast, are there Muslims who commit violence? Absolutely. Would they be classified as following Muhammad or going against him? The answer, of course, is they would be absolutely in line with his teachings and example.

You like to use the buzz word "intolerance" as if by itself it has absolute meaning. Are you tolerant of child rape? No? Then you show intolerance, they same thing you denounce others for.

At this point you will now try to defend yourself by clarifying what you mean as "intolerance." Why not before you throw around that buzz word against others?

I assume now you are ready to define "intolerance." I am completely intolerant of any supremacist ideology, like Islam and Nazism. I am completely intolerant of those who wish to impose Islamic Shari'a law on Muslim females and on all non-Muslims. In case you don't know, Shari'a is legal wife-beating, pedophilia, slavery, prostitution, sex slavery, oppression, rape, torture, mutilation, terrorism and murder. Are you against those things Dale? Then you are against Islam because Islamic Shari'a law draws all of the above from the Qur'an and Muhammad! You show the same amount of "intolerance" as me or any other person denouncing Islam.

As for Muslims, show me where I wrote "I despise all Muslims on the planet and see them as some species of sub-human." Having difficulty, Dale? Re-reading all my comments? Still can't find those words? Exactly, because I never wrote such words. It is precisely because I care about Muslims that I want to free them from the bondage of Islam. Half of my family is Muslim. The entire family of the Pakistani Muslim woman I fell in love with are all Muslims. Her mom is one of the most gentle, kind-hearted people I have ever met. But are they Muslims according to Islamic doctrine? NO! Do they know that? NO! They are ignorant of what Islam teaches. Can you imagine Hitler being described as a gentle human being who never hurt anyone and spread his ideology by peace and only fought in self-defense? Well that is what these Muslims think of Muhammad. That is how deceived they are. Let me tell you, when I show them from their own Qur'ans even a few passages they never knew were in there, their heads spin. I hate to see them hurt so much but it is necessary for them to understand they are in a death cult called Islam.

There are a second category of Muslims who are peaceful. They are the ones who totally ignore the over 100 jihad verses in the Qur'an, who totally ignore all of the child rape and sex slavery rape verses in the Qur'an. Who totally ignore all of the verse calling Jews and Christians apes and pigs and the worst of creatures and vilest of animals and not to be befriended. In other words, they know Islam is a lie, but because they don't want to rock the boat or come to terms with it, they choose to live in a pretend world.

Both categories of peaceful Muslims I've just described are totally irrelevant. When the "tiny minority of extremist Muslims" riot over a cartoon or video, do you see the so-called "peaceful majority" of Muslims confronting them for "hijacking" their religion? NO!

The most dangerous category are those who only appear peaceful, but are just waiting for the Muslim population to grow in the host country to show their true colors. In other words, act like pious Muslims in the pattern of two-faced Muhammad. In the meantime, they contaminate the host country, like a virus or cancer, destroying it from within though soft jihad. In fact, they write about it in their plans. The Muslim Brotherhood in America (Hamas-CAIR, ISNA, ICNA, MSA, MAS, etc.) have had their internal documents discovered, revealing their plan of "eliminating and destroying Western civilization from within and 'sabotaging' its miserable house by their hands..."

The openly terrorist ones have no time to put up an act. They are full on jihadis like Hezbollah, Boko Haram, etc.

Rape is Islamic. Again, let's g back to Hitler. Do you denounce him and Nazis? Why? Why don't you talk about the positive achievements of Nazis? Hitler promoted humane treatment of animals, banned smoking in public places like restaurants, established programs to collect charity for the poor, promoted the development of an affordable automobile for the average citizen, pioneered film-making techniques still in use today, and a bunch of other good things. In addition, Mein Kampf contains only 7% anti-Jewish sentiments. So why do you condemn Hitler, Mein Kampf, Nazis and Nazism? Why don't you show more "tolerance" and stop being so "judgmental"? Why would you insist on "harping on the negative" instead of talking about positive? Could it be that the negative is so bad that it must be exposed? Exactly. The same with Islam.

At any time a peaceful Muslim can turn into a pious one. What turns them? First, a belief in Islam. Then, pious Muslims show them Islamic doctrine, informing them that they are supposed to be deceptive, hateful of innocent people, love rape, love terrorism, torture and murder in the name of Muhammad and his god Allah. When I and others like me expose Islam, we run the risk of peaceful, ignorant Muslims turning into pious Muslims. This is why I hit Islam so hard. I want Muslims to leave Islam, and many do because they were genuinely peaceful people who realized they were sold a pack of lies about Muhammad being peaceful. In fact, even pious Muslims leave too. And these ex-Muslims end up becoming the most vocal opponents of Islam. I'm talking about ex-terrorists and ex-Imams in addition to regular ex-Muslims.

It is critical for non-Muslims as well to know the real nature of Islam. Why? The goal of Islam is to terrorize and murder the non-Muslim world into submission. Only Christians and Jews have the possibility of living as semi-slaves, while all others including Atheists must convert to Islam or die. Even with the dhimmi option, many pious Muslims seek to not even want that and are doing what they can to eliminate Christians from Muslim lands and lands becoming increasingly Islamic. Pious Muslims recognize Christianity as the number one threat to Islam, so they want to eliminate Christianity. The targeting of Christians also occurs in Atheist lands.

If you actually care to see real-life details on what makes Christians the number one persecuted peoples in the world, go to persecution.org. There you can see accounts of persecution by region and even country.

Are there Atheists who would never hurt a fly let alone a person? Sure. Some of my friends. But, aside from their own personal opinion about treating people nicely, do they have any absolute moral authority outside of themselves to say that torturing people is wrong? No. The authoritative leaders of the Atheist community, whose words I have quoted, show that.

Rape, like you said, has occurred before Islam, and occurs in non-Islamic societies too. What you fail to understand is that Islam codifies rape. It makes rape part of Muslim culture. The Qur'an sanctifies rape and prostitution, and Muhammad pushed his men to do it without restraint. Let me cite authoritative Islamic doctrine to make this clear. There is so much on rape of women and rape of little girls that my fingers would wear to the bone typing before I even scratched the surface in exposing Islamic sanctioning of rape. So let me cite Muhammad to give you a good idea of how rape is codified in Islam:

Narrated Ibn Muhairiz: I saw Abu Said and asked him about coitus interruptus. Abu Said said, "We went with Allah's Apostle, in the Ghazwa of Barli Al-Mustaliq and we captured some of the 'Arabs as captives, and the long separation from our wives was pressing us hard and we wanted to practice coitus interruptus. We asked Allah's Apostle (whether it was permissible). He said, "It is better for you not to do so. No soul, (that which Allah has) destined to exist, up to the Day of Resurrection, but will definitely come, into existence." (Bukhari Volume 3, Book 46, Hadith #718)

Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: We got female captives in the war booty and we used to do coitus interruptus with them. So we asked Allah's Apostle about it and he said, "Do you really do that?" repeating the question thrice, "There is no soul that is destined to exist but will come into existence, till the Day of Resurrection." (Bukhari Volume 7, Book #62, Hadith #137)

and from Sahih Muslim Book 8, Hadith # 3373 -

Abu Sa'id al-Khudri (Allah be pleased with him) reported: We took women captives, and we wanted to do 'azl with them. We then asked Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) about it, and he said to us: Verily you do it, verily you do it, verily you do it, but the soul which has to be born until the Day of judgment must be born.

And from Sunan Abu Dawud Vol. 2 # 2150 -

Abu Said al-Khudri said: The apostle of Allah sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives. Some of the Companions of the Apostle of Allah were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Quranic verse, ‘And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess’. That is to say, they are lawful for them when they complete their waiting period.

Dale, in case you are wondering which Qur'anic verse this last reference is talking about, read Sura 4:24. Also read 4:3, 23:6, 24:33, 33:50-52, 70:30, 65:4.

Now for Christians during the Crusades. Do you even know what the Crusades were? Are you going by the lie you and I were taught in school that they were offensive to attack peaceful Muslims in their own lands minding their own business? The Crusades were a response to 4 centuries of Islamic jihad. tens of thousands of churches had been destroyed by Muslims. Half the Christian world was gone. Countless Christian females raped by pious Muslims. Surviving Christians were subjugated under 4 centuries of dhimmitude, meaning living as semi-slaves per Sura 9:29. There was an appeal made to liberate the Levant from the Muslim oppressors. Using their own money, risking life and limb, Christians drove back Muslims. Had they not done that, the whole would most likely be Islamic by now. At one point 3/4 of the world was under Muslim rule.

I will point out that some Crusaders did wrong things, like attack Jews along the way. I fully condemn the individuals among the Crusaders who did that. But the overall goal of the Crusades should be supported by every freedom-loving person, Christian or not.

As for Debbie Tate's comment, Dale do you want to entertain terrorists in your home? Why not? Do you support the killing of terrorists? Would you support a police officer shooting a man trying to kill your wife or mother or daughter if you have one? Why? Only because it is your family member? Only your family has value? The rest of us don't?

Pious Muslims want us dead and the remaining of us enslaved or forcibly converted to Islam or converted to Islam under duress. You don't think opposing their goals by force is justified?

I can understand Debbie's fervor. However, I think that the terrorists in America (Muslim Brotherhood, etc.) cam be defeated without violence, but only if they are exposed and stopped early. If they are allowed to continue their successful infiltration of the government, media and education system, they will only grow in more power and influence. Their top goal is the end of free speech, that is, when it comes to saying anything they don't want said about them or Islam or Muhammad or the Qur'an. Their openly violent counterparts implore terrorism to drive fear into the hearts of Westerners so we grant concessions to the MB and all other Muslim supremacists among us. Believe you me, there are more than you think. I was assaulted outside a mosque in America during the Muslim "holy" month. What for? Disseminating literature straight from the Muslim sources. The "peaceful" Muslims responded by assaulting me. Had it not been for the police coming to my aid after I was able to call them, I may not be here today. What if the police was full of Muslims or Muslim influence? Would they have sided with me? Nope. This isn't speculation but reality. Christians, for doing nothing more than peacefully talking to Muslims on public streets, were arrested in Dearborn, Michigan. There is a heavy Arab presence there. This wasn't Riyadh or Cairo or Karachi, this was a US city! The restriction of free speech, when it comes to criticism of Islam or even asking Muslims questions which can create doubt about Islam, is Islamic. A Muslim doesn't have to be violent to support the destruction of the First Amendment. There is a spectrum of Muslims, some are willing to commit violence, but most are willing to enforce all the other aspects of Islamic Shari'a law like no criticism of Islam being allowed.

I can get into details on the issue of separation of church and state, since almost everyone these days has no idea what that originally meant. But let me summarize. The Founding fathers didn't want one church to be dominant, like what occurred in England. To accomplish this, government was not to be involved in the church to ensure separation of church and state, but the church was to be involved in the government without one church (let's say Lutheran or Anglican) becoming the "official" church. Their basis for "all men are created equal" was the Bible.

In Islam, however, there cannot be any form of distinction between government and Islam. Islam is a state, a religion, a legal system, a complete way of life, even dictating how one is to have sex. Muslim countries all implement some level of Shari'a, and the more Islamic a country the worse it is, especially for females and religious minorities.

Your KKK comparison is seriously flawed. First of all, the Klan murdered over 3,000 black people. Do you know who else they killed? Over a thousand whites? Do you know who was the dominant political party in the racist Klan? Democrats. Do you know who were the white victims of the Klan? Republicans standing up for black people. It think it is important to insert that history lesson here. If you are interested, you can learn more by reading the book A Short History of Reconstruction, (Harper & Row Publishers, Inc., 1990) by Dr. Eric Foner, the renown liberal historian who is the DeWitt Clinton Professor of History at Columbia University. As a further testament to his impeccable credentials, Professor Foner is only the second person to serve as president of the three major professional organizations: the Organization of American Historians, American Historical Association, and Society of American Historians.

Since you mentioned the Spanish Inquisition, pious Muslims murder more people each year than all 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition. And as for the Klan, pious Muslims murder more people daily than the Klan did in 50 years. So much for "everyone does bad and no group is better or worse than the other." Muslims are involved in at least 90% of the wars going on in the world. The number one source od Muslim death, by far, is other Muslims. Pious Muslims have such an urge to kill that they kill each other. If they are willing to kill each other, how much more the rest of us.

I've thoroughly destroyed your attempts at moral relativism and at obfuscating the inherently murderous, supremacist, rape-endorsing ideology of Islam.


 

Hilary S (65)
Wednesday March 19, 2014, 1:33 am
how is it that muslim men committing crimes expect leniency, and yet if anyone offends them in any way there is hell to pay?
 

P. L. Neola (21)
Wednesday March 19, 2014, 1:01 pm
“General secretary of the temple committee Surja Mohan Sarker said they left the temple about 7:30pm on Tuesday night. But in the following morning they found that all the idols have been vandalised.”

At least, they allowed them to go home before attacking the temple. However, that will not always be the case. Eventually, the Muslim vandalizers will begin attacking the Hindu population.
 

DaleLovesOttawa O (198)
Wednesday March 19, 2014, 5:37 pm
Rahman Qureshi, you say that: I am trying to "exonerate Islam," instead of addressing the issue. To me, the issue is religious extremism in all of its forms and I did state that violence is not acceptable.


I also read other comments and agreed with Ruth Anne W, when it comes to the fact that there are extremists everywhere.


It just appears that almost everything that you comment about or post news about is something negative about Muslims/Islam, which makes me curious. You seem to be on a one person campaign in Care2 to discuss Muslims/Islam all the time.


My main point is that extreme fundamentalism, no matter what the source, be it Muslim, Christianity, etc., is what is dangerous. Violence, by any religious advocate is totally out of line.


I am really not interested in The Numbers Game where you focus on how many people Muslims kill compared to how many people that fundamentalist Christians have killed throughout history. (Not to mention fundamentalists involved in violence from any other religions across the world throughout history and present time). My point is that all extreme fundamentalists are dangerous as many will use violence to achieve their ends, not simply fundamentalist Muslims.

I have no stats to prove that Muslims are involved in 90 percent of all wars in the world (or are you saying all wars throughout human history or all the wars that presently taking place?)

Yes, is it true that in many countries that Islam is dominant, these are theocracies, however, most people already know this unless they are unaware of political systems around the world. I did mention that secular states, aka many western democracies keep church and state separate. However, there are some on the far right in democracies who would like nothing more than to introduce laws that involve religion, where church and state would not be separate. (These people are in a minority, of course and they will never get to impose this, especially in the U.S.).


It just appears that whenever I see you comment, you seem to be very active against anything to do with Muslims in general. Are you saying that every person that is Muslim is never to be trusted? That tends to be the impression I get rather than the idea that extreme fundamentalists that are Muslims are not to be trusted. I would not trust any extreme fundamentalist, be they Muslim or any other religion. There are many out to indoctrinate the world in their religion and only their religion, but that is true of fundamentalists who are also Christian. Not all Christians (despite the advocacy of some to spread the word of Jesus) are intent on changing everyone to become Christian. There are no doubt, some Muslims who could care less if I am Christian, they just are Muslims and live their lives and worry not about what I do or believe. There are, I agree, extreme fundamentalist Muslims who want everyone converted or to destroy them, but that is not every Muslim on the planet. Such extreme fundamentalists are a threat, period. However, I don't fear everyone who happens to be a Muslim.



I simply don't like seeing generalities thrown around, the idea that many have that all Muslims everywhere are somehow waiting to pounce and take over the entire world. There are the extreme fundamentalists who obviously do dream. plot, train terrorists and would do anything to defeat those of us not following their extreme version of what they believe Islam is. Those are the people who need be watched, feared and defended against by western intelligence. (I am just addressing the western world for now).


However, when you say things like: "In America, we have already seen Muslims involved in sex slavery as in the high Muslim Somali population in Minnesota," it makes me wonder, since the sex slave is not exclusively something that some Muslims are active in, there are non-Muslims in the west and all over the world just as active in the sex slave, so it appears to be generalization once again. It gives me the impression that you believe that all Muslims are evil, and that perhaps you do believe that no one who is Muslim can be trusted, that every Muslim is not to be trusted.


I don't worry as much that the U.S. police forces, government and intelligence agencies will be taken over by extreme Muslims. Infiltration of all governmental institutions, police agencies, etc., occur all over the world. I am sure that some communists are still infiltrating some aspects of the American governmental structure, but like extreme Islamic fundamentalists, the communists will never overthrow and take control of the American political structure. I don't believe that Americans are all totally unable to protect themselves from outside takeover. There will never be a Muslim/Islamic American government takeover. Not ever.

There are many other points that you made that at present I don't have time to address, so I will have to return to discuss them.






 

Manuela Gewert (88)
Friday March 21, 2014, 11:42 am
In jeder Religion gibt es schwarze Schafe, das war schon immer so! Ich finde wir in Care2 sollten uns darum bemühen zu zeigen das es auch anders geht! Wir möchten doch alle eine Welt haben in denen sich alle respektieren. Ich bin mit 13 Jahren von einem Pakistani vergewaltigt worden, aber ich habe mir immer gesagt, das nicht alle gleich schlimm sind. Jetzt muss ich erst mal wieder alles verdauen.
 

Manuela Gewert (88)
Friday March 21, 2014, 11:46 am
Jeder soll doch glauben an was er will, ich finde es nicht gut das Tempel geschändet werden! Wann werden wir das endlich einmal einsehen?
 

Gina Caracci (219)
Sunday March 23, 2014, 7:58 pm
they will only get stronger until people step up
WAITING....
 

Lone W (197)
Sunday May 17, 2015, 10:25 am
Western goverments must move away from their Chamberlain-like policies of apeasement of these dangerous extremists. They already tried that with Hitler and it did not work.

And, NO, poverty or in many of the cases of these etremists, claimed poverty, is not an excuse for violence. Work is the answer.
 

Catherine W (35)
Sunday April 2, 2017, 12:31 pm
It's so much easier to hate and the cycle never seems to end. This has been going on for 1000's of years.
 
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