START A PETITION 25,136,189 members: the world's largest community for good
START A PETITION
x

Why Aren't Americans Fighting Back? - "Americans Always Do the Right Thing, After They Have Tried Everything Else First."?


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: usa, poverty, socialsecurity, government, economy, freedoms, ethics, ruling class, under class, PROTEST )

David
- 442 days ago - truth-out.org
The big-business media is a slave of the capitalist order, whose only function is to make a profit, while keeping the majority of us misinformed. -- We are "consumers" who should only be concerned with earning money, spending money, and avoiding politics?



Select names from your address book   |   Help
   

We hate spam. We do not sell or share the email addresses you provide.

Comments

Dandelion G. (384)
Tuesday July 16, 2013, 6:02 am
In the article:

The majority of Americans are suffering terribly from the current economic crisis, but they do not yet have a political self-identity that will allow for a successful fightback. They don't know who they are or what they're fighting for. Neither do they understand whom or what they are fighting against.

My comment:

Well I hope to heck they figure it out soon I'm tired of waiting. I'll keep educating a few more until the masses "get it". I'll be giving another speech the first of August, so in hopes I can reach a few more ears to open their eyes and start acting from their heart.

The article:

The share of US wealth held by half of American households plummeted in 2010 to 1.1 percent, while the top 10 percent's share was 74.5 percent. And according to the British aid agency Oxfam, the 2012 income alone of the 100 wealthiest families in the world was enough to end global poverty four times over!

My comment: Criminal.

Get Up Stand Up
GET UP STAND UP
 

Dandelion G. (384)
Tuesday July 16, 2013, 10:19 am
Wanted to add this, as I've added this news thread onto others news that pertains and hopes they will read this good piece.

As the crisis of capitalism drags on, fightbacks will increase in quantity and quality. The oligarchy will be tempted to use every repressive weapon in its arsenal to instill terror and a sense of hopelessness and disorientation in its adversary, the international working class.

These terror weapons include cop harassment and violence, repressive laws, frame-ups, prisons, kidnappings, the use of torture, assassinations, private goon squads, and military invasions and occupations. The tallest nail gets hammered down. WHICH WE ARE SEEING ALREADY

State secrecy, already at its highest level since World War II, will only increase, as will the violation of privacy and attacks on all of the rights embodied in the constitutional Bill of Rights that working people fought so hard for. Attempts to physically disarm the working class will also intensify, even as it means decreasing the profits of the armaments capitalists.

In the beginning stages of the Big Fightback, we will likely witness the rise of mass fascist organizations, composed mainly of ruined middle class elements and the chronically unemployable, and funded and supported primarily by those same armaments capitalists. Ranks of Brownshirts will be loosed onto city streets in a desperate attempt to head off the revolutionary upsurge. There can be no illusions here. This will be a fight for the very existence of humanity.

Many of these terrorist measures were used unsuccessfully to stop the Roman plebeians and Polish Solidarity. What neutralized them in each case was a self-aware, organized working class, conscious of its mission, its abilities, and its enemy.

Get yourselves educated. Standing up for Fido's rights is commendable but don't forget about your OWN. That will also include Fido.
 

David B. (26)
Tuesday July 16, 2013, 10:34 am
Thanks for the video Dandelion... Very appropriate (as always)

Bob MArley The Legend Album Rastavibe13

Get Up, Stand Up, stand up for your right (3 times) Get Up, Stand Up, don't give up the fight Preacher man don't tell me heaven is under the earth I know you don't know what life is really worth Is not all that glitters in gold and Half the story has never been told So now you see the light, aay Stand up for your right. Come on Get Up, Stand Up, stand up for your right Get Up, Stand Up, don't give up the fight (Repeat) Most people think great God will come from the sky Take away ev'rything, and make ev'rybody feel high But if you know what life is worth You would look for yours on earth And now you see the light You stand up for your right, yeah! Get Up, Stand Up, stand up for your right Get Up, Stand Up, don't give up the fight Get Up, Stand Up. Life is your right So we can't give up the fight Stand up for your right, Lord, Lord Get Up, Stand Up. Keep on struggling on Don't give up the fight We're sick and tired of your ism and skism game Die and go to heaven in Jesus' name, Lord We know when we understand Almighty God is a living man You can fool some people sometimes But you can't fool all the people all the time So now we see the light We gonna stand up for our right So you'd better get up, stand up, stand up for your right Get Up, Stand Up, don't give up the fight Get Up, Stand Up, stand up for your right Get Up, Stand Up, don't give up the fight.
 

Patrick Donovan (318)
Tuesday July 23, 2013, 12:02 pm
Excellent posts David and Dandelion. We all need to remember Mr. Marley's words.
 

Joan AWAY McAllister (1083)
Tuesday July 23, 2013, 1:06 pm
Good article. Noted Thanks David & Dandelion
 

. (0)
Tuesday July 23, 2013, 2:07 pm
Excellent post. I think more and more Americans are waking from their comas ( she said hopefully) TY David and Dandelion
 

Birgit W. (145)
Tuesday July 23, 2013, 2:30 pm
Excellent article, thanks David & Dandelion. The corporations just love how we take all their punches without speaking up.
 

Michael Kirkby (85)
Tuesday July 23, 2013, 4:06 pm
Shhhhh! It's all in the interest of national security.
 

Eternal Gardener (743)
Tuesday July 23, 2013, 4:21 pm
Most of them have a tremendously hard time to wake up from their "American Dream"!
 

Rose NoFWDSPLZ (275)
Tuesday July 23, 2013, 5:27 pm
Wonderful post
 

Roxy H. (337)
Tuesday July 23, 2013, 5:46 pm
Rise up! In solidarity, The Wolf Army , Idle No More, Anon , Thanks Dandy1 for passing on
 

Susan Allen (221)
Tuesday July 23, 2013, 6:27 pm
Noted and shared
 

Nancy C. (798)
Tuesday July 23, 2013, 8:01 pm
it's time. I really should get some neighbors and friends interested in getting on board the protest train. I do much of my thinking alone. Gotta ponder on this...
 

David B. (26)
Tuesday July 23, 2013, 8:16 pm
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)

So much of the history of the struggle between good and evil can be explained by Edmund Burke's observation. Time and again those who profess to be good seem to clearly outnumber those who are evil, yet those who are evil seem to prevail far too often. Seldom is it the numbers that determine the outcome, but whether those who claim to be good men are willing to stand up and fight for what they know to be right. There are numerous examples of this sad and awful scenario being played out over and over again. -- Why is it so?

Protests fix things, silence doesn't.
 

Rosemary Rannes (632)
Tuesday July 23, 2013, 11:03 pm

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it.
Martin Luther King, Jr.

All posted to Twitter - getting the message out to the masses ! Thanks Sheryl for your strength and courage of conviction. You've lit a fire - keep of the flame ! We won't let it go out!


 

Rosemary Rannes (632)
Tuesday July 23, 2013, 11:04 pm
... not for the credits but my apologies... David thank you for sharing this!
 

Susanne R. (249)
Tuesday July 23, 2013, 11:49 pm
Why aren't Americans fighting back? That's a question I've been asking myself for years. Are they apathetic? Have they lost hope? Are they expecting the "next" guy to do it for them? Are they buying into the ample propaganda and misinformation that surrounds us? Do they assume that someone will come to their rescue when they hit rock bottom, so they don't have to bother? I don't know the answer, and I certainly don't understand how anyone can sit back and let this injustice go on.

Thank you, David and Dandelion, for posting this thought-provoking article.
 

Terrie Williams (772)
Wednesday July 24, 2013, 10:03 am
Susanne, all of the above in your comment. I would also add....fear of pain and/or death. Our government sanctions torture now and people can also be 'disappeared' into supermax prisons and 'GitMo's' . That alone gives the average person much pause.

BUT, when one hits the final bottom and nothing is left but one's life and one has come to NOT fear 'the end', then one becomes the ultimate weapon that the Fascists/Authoritarian 1%ers fear the most.....an awake individual multiplied into a mass of individuals who will no longer take anything they dish out.

Imagine the entire world becoming awake....I imagine it all the time. Karma is coming, get ready!
 

Dandelion G. (384)
Wednesday July 24, 2013, 10:14 am
Also denial. People hate to learn they've lived a life of lies being fed to them. It's not something one "wants" to awaken to, but after the sting of being lied to has worn off, then people want to stop being a pawn in it. No one likes to feel they've been used.
 

Lois Jordan (56)
Wednesday July 24, 2013, 6:58 pm
Thanks for posting, David...and Dandelion for the link.
I do believe Occupy served to wake up a lot of people. Many of us here do share petitions and articles with family & friends. I rarely hear from those I share with off Care2, but I keep doing it anyway. I keep hoping I will get a response of some sort....and I occasionally do, and it's positive. But, people are either very busy or just complacent. There are some who disagree, of course. Funny thing is, many of those rightwingers who "want their country back" are really on the same page on many issues....and are continuing to find that out. The "kids" with their social networks are sharing so much good info, and I believe we will all be coming together in protest very soon.
 

Terrie Williams (772)
Thursday July 25, 2013, 8:58 am
Well, dagnabbit ...the star police won't let me send you a star yet , Sheryl, but your are correct. I awoke in my early 20's. First, I knew deep despair, then I got mad....then I got enraged.....then I got my dead calm/dead-eye (something my father used to say when he would see me that way because he recognized the import behind it) face on and proceeded to play trhe game for a few decades, all the while trying to throw kinks in the system. Sometimes I succeeded, other times failed, but they always knew I had been there and left my mark.

Now, I wait....and I am dead calm.
 

BMutiny TCorporationsEvil (467)
Thursday July 25, 2013, 1:09 pm
"If you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles . . . if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle." These are the words of Sūn Zǐ, a 6th century BCE Chinese general, military strategist, and author of The Art of War, an immensely influential ancient Chinese book on military strategy.
GREAT QUOTE!
But then the article goes on to say:
"All fighting is the same. Self-knowledge and knowledge of the enemy confer on the fighter the outlines of a winning strategy, based on the best utilization of available weapons of offense and defense.

The majority of Americans, unknowingly, are members of the working class, AKA the proletariat, and will be fighting for the kind of socialism in which sharing, cooperation, volunteerism, and wellness replace the drive for individual profits, competition, ego, and the desire for power over others."
======
Well, it may be so.
BUT, the words used in this article, "proletariat", "Bourgeoisie", and so on, WILL NEVER "RESONATE" with people in the United States - they are "old-fashioned" words that ONCE had Power - but that Power cannot be REVIVED - however much a "Lefty" might yearn for it to!!!
Language CHANGES over time. The words "Middle Class" mean something far different than in Marx's day - when used by ordinary "people on the street" and not by Scholars! A "Middle Class Standard of Living", which for a Worker, would have been UNTHINKABLE in Karl Marx's time, was achieved for many Workers by Union efforts.
Anyway, be that as it may, it is better to see how people ACTUALLY USE LANGUAGE, than try to "correct" them - especially "setting the standard" to language essentially OBSOLETE - however useful it may once have been!

I think the language that DOES RESONATE with people now, is the language of MORALITY - of Good and Evil. Completely SEPARATED, now, from the OBSOLETE religious concepts of "Sin", "Satan", "Sex", and all that!

The language of THE COMMONS. The language of THE PUBLIC GOOD. The language of ETHICAL ACTIONS.

The language involving the "Proles", seemed to me to be based more on ENVY. The fat-cat "Bourgeoisie" had this "high standard of living" that the toiling workers COVETED. Well, the Unions got that for them. And left the workers still discontent, and the World a mess.
And it took NO NOTICE OF THE ECOLOGY AND THE ANIMALS AT ALL, classical Marxism didn't.
It was like, the Environment would KEEP ON PRODUCING ENDLESSLY, except the goodies from raping the Forest and Foreign lands, would go to European workers, instead of to the fat-cat "bosses" and their families.

WE HAVE ADVANCED TO A LARGER CONSCIOUSNESS THAN KARL MARX HAD.
Therefore, we need to DEFINE OURSELVES by a VOCABULARY that REFLECTS that!
A SECULAR MORALITY, of GOOD and EVIL - Evil being that which HARMS PEOPLE, and the Environment - such a Morality, can both DEFINE, and UNITE us.
[Marxism was supposed to be "Scientific", and therefore didn't use the language of Morality - which in his day, anyway, was entirely co-opted by the Church.]

Signed by my full name,
BMutiny TheCorporationsAreEvil
 

Devon Leonard (54)
Thursday July 25, 2013, 1:36 pm
The world is upside down...it has been for some time now.... Our nation and others as well are heading full throttle for a return to a feudal system where the corporations are crowned as our ruling kings and queens.....
And the name of their god is greed. And that sort of greed is like a hungry ghost whose thirst for more can not be quenched.
I feel there are two energies at work in our reality... One is the energy of Love... And the other is the energy of fear. From these two energies comes forth all that is... It's our choice.
I am so thankful for the Awakeners, the Peacemakers, the ones who Stand Up...naked in the Truth...
Thank you David and Dandelion and to millions of us who Stand Up for the sacredness of life.
SHINE ON AND ON AND ON........!
 

BMutiny TCorporationsEvil (467)
Thursday July 25, 2013, 3:56 pm
The reason that Marxism and that whole Vocabulary associated with it, is such a big DUD - and that article doesn't acknowledge that! - is, that Marxism was supposed to be "Scientific", the Big Deal in the 19th Century.The "Science" of Economics {as still taught in schools}, and Behaviorism as the "Science" of Psychology, were supposed to make Human Behavior as PREDICTABLE [and therefore controllable!] as anything in "Nature".
Like a Sunflower seed grows into a Sunflower, not into Poison Ivy or into a Violet - PREDICTABLY.
Inevitably, given proper nutrients and Environment...
The reason this DOESN'T WORK IN HUMAN BEINGS, is, that Human Beings have Free Choice. Free Will.
Not "unlimited" choices, but we DO have choices - unlike a plant or animal or rock.
A "Working Class" person, can choose to have "Class Consciousness" - or NOT.
Plenty of them CHOOSE "not" to.
The Capitalist advertisers have for a LONG time, been MUCH smarter than the Marxists. They have known how to make the "Proletarians" see things THEIR way - not they way that was "good for them"!
I guess this confuses the Marxists! "But - it's UNscientific!" Well.... yeah!

Since we Humans DO have CHOICES - these are MORAL CHOICES.
Choices we make every day, to HARM or to HELP. To HURT or to BENEFIT. Other Human Beings {and animals!}, and the Planet itself.
Repeat: These are MORAL Choices.
That is why the LANGUAGE OF MORAL CHOICES is the kind of Language we should be using - to ATTRACT people to our Movement.
NOT the Language of supposed "self-interest", the PSEUDO-SCIENTIFIC language of the PSEUDO-SCIENCE of Academic Economics. {Whether Straussian or Marxist.}
We don't want "Revolution" just so that WE get our crack at "Power"... Power to Exploit for OURSELVES...
 

Dandelion G. (384)
Thursday July 25, 2013, 4:05 pm
My ancestors, the original inhabitants of North America, had a saying, "How will what you do affect seven generations. That caused each person to ponder upon their actions either individually or as a group before they did anything. That was language of moral choice.
 

Roseann D. (178)
Thursday July 25, 2013, 4:12 pm
I SOOOooo agree Dandelion. Living amongst the redwoods is a great privilege. They are great neighbors. ;-d. I worry about some of our trees that are growing close to a house that's for sale. A dinky little shack that should come down, not the tree. I say it's far too arrogant to cut down a living thing that has the potential to live for a couple thousand years, for the comfort of someone who will live another 40+.

When the new owners realize the crap they've got into with that crappy piece of property, hopefully they will move and not the tree.
 

Giana Peranio-Paz (388)
Friday July 26, 2013, 8:47 am
Great words, all of you up there, but what can actually be achieved. To date the only thing I found that worked was care2 causes and petitions and that still gives me hope.
 

Gina Caracci (231)
Friday July 26, 2013, 8:38 pm
Great article
seems people will only stand up when it affects THEM
SOMEDAY when everything is destroyed, they will wonder why 'no one' did anything. Hopefully it wont get to that point. Im THRILLED to see more and more organizing, even if it is many different agendas. theres ALOT to fight against so lets do THIS!

THX DANDELION as usual!
 

Gina Caracci (231)
Friday July 26, 2013, 8:39 pm
Sorry..thx David for the post and Dandelion for the fwd!!
 

Helen Porter (40)
Saturday July 27, 2013, 4:18 am
Giana, you are saying what I am convinced of.....Care2, together with the other activists groups with which we are united, is the only hope we have.

If we win, we will know that we helped.

If we don't win, at least we will know that we tried.

We will not be saying "If only I had it to do over again."
 

Judith Hand (59)
Monday July 29, 2013, 1:51 pm
Noted. Led me to think of my college course "Social Stratification" going on 40 years ago. It had a distinct Marxist perspective. There's a lot of truth in there. (Dare I put that on a computer that the NAS may take a peek at? Well, it is what it is).
 

Syd H. (48)
Monday August 5, 2013, 2:55 am
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power."
~~ Benito Mussolini


And so it is that we were conquered after all...
 

Dandelion G. (384)
Monday August 5, 2013, 5:41 am
Indeed, and the sad fact is there are still those who don't even realize it.
 
Or, log in with your
Facebook account:
Please add your comment: (plain text only please. Allowable HTML: <a>)

Track Comments: Notify me with a personal message when other people comment on this story


Loading Noted By...Please Wait

 


butterfly credits on the news network

  • credits for vetting a newly submitted story
  • credits for vetting any other story
  • credits for leaving a comment
learn more

Most Active Today in US Politics & Gov't

David B.

David B.
David's contributions:
Stories noted recently: 0
Stories submitted: 500
Front Page stories: 7




 
Content and comments expressed here are the opinions of Care2 users and not necessarily that of Care2.com or its affiliates.