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Should Florida and Michigan Have Do-Over Primaries?


March 6, 2008 -- Posted by Catherine Morgan

Let me just start with this...Is there some way to "impeach" Howard Dean as the Chairman of the Democratic National Committee (DNC)? This whole situation is 100% his pig headed fault. I keep hearing him repeating over and over again, that Florida and Michigan are being "punished" and that is that. Has Howard Dean ever heard of the CRAZY idea that the punishment should fit the crime? When a handful of people make a decision that is punishable...those people should be punished (not a couple million people). Howard Dean appears to be is on some sort of power trip, and as far as I'm concerned, he should be the one that is punished. He should be fired for making such an overwhelmingly irresponsible decision regarding a state's right to move up their primary. Disenfranchising millions of voters because their state has moved up its primary, is just insane.

Why should the rest of the country care whether or not Florida and Michigan voters are disenfranchised? Well, let me tell you. In less than a year, Democrats need to win the general election, or McCain will end up in the White House. Need I say more?

I don't care how they do it, but the DNC better fix this problem before it is really too late. I recommend all Democrats contact the DNC and voice their opinion on this issue. You can use their contact form or you can call them at 202-863-8000. This isn't just a Florida/Michigan problem, this is a problem for every Democrat in this country. Take a stand. Insist that all votes be counted. This is the United States of America, we pride ourselves on our ability to conduct fair elections, and we DO NOT disenfranchise our citizens.



From The Wall Street Journal...
With no end in sight for the Democratic nomination fight, the past 24 hours have brought on a new round of debate over what to do about Michigan and Florida, including discussion of holding a second round of nominating contests to award the two states' delegates.

Govs. Jennifer Granholm of Michigan and Charlie Crist of Florida released a joint statement Wednesday calling for a resolution to the matter so their states' voters are not disenfranchised in the nomination fight. Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean is open to a second round of contests but shot down suggestions that delegates be awarded based on the first primary results. "We are not going to change the rules in the middle of the game," Dean said in statement Wednesday.

From Kay B Day at Covering Florida - Dems Stuck In Punish Mode Over Florida Primary
Dean's missing the boat on the importance of the legislative system, something that doesn't come as a surprise to anyone who's observed him over the years. The Florida Senate passed legislation enabling the earlier primary. The Florida House voted 118-0 to do the same—in May, 2007. Maybe next time we want to pass a law in the Sunshine State we better check with Howard Dean first?

The DNC hardline position is nothing more than a move to control candidates. Party of the people? Not. If Sen. Barack Obama had won Florida, you think the DNC would refuse to count the votes? Not. Try tacking on those 210 delegates to Sen. Hillary Clinton's numbers and see how they look.

Also See:

From Crooks and Liars

WizBang Blue

From CNN Political Ticker

The Huffington Post

The Buzz: Florida Politics

Don Surber - I Tried To Warn Them

The Reality About Legitimacy

What do you think about all of this?
69 Comments   add a comment >>
Kimberlee K.
Thursday March 20, 2008, 7:07 AM


After all that has happened the past several elections, one of the things that should be on the ballot in November is amending the Constitution to include the right to vote and to be counted for all US citizens 18 and older. The DNC, GOP, state governors, and party candidates running should NOT be the ones to decide whether our votes will be counted, it should be guaranteed to be counted for WE, THE PEOPLE! The Constitution sadly does not protect our votes and make every one count. As it is written now, the Constitution only protects individuals who vote from age,race, and gender discrimination along with not allowing poll taxes.
Kim K
Miami Springs, FL

Linda R.
Monday March 17, 2008, 10:15 AM


If there is indeed an election in November and the economy doesn't collapse before then and martial law isn't declared !



Rose S.
Sunday March 16, 2008, 12:16 PM


i have a solution....with all the millions of dollars already spent on elections, primaries, caucases, tv ads...it will probably exceed a billion dollars talling up all the Republican and Democratic candidates...

Election Day--November--EVERYONE STAYS HOME.....THAT WAY THE PEOPLE'S VOICE WILL BE COUNTED....THERE WON'T BE ANY VOTES TO STEAL....NO DELEGATES TO MANIPULATE.....NO MORE....

David Camp
Saturday March 15, 2008, 11:35 AM


Florida and Michigan broke Party rules by having their primaries too early. At the least, no DNC funds should be spent on "do overs". If a reasonable compromise can be found to help these state voters, fine. If not, that is ok.

David Camp

Linda R.
Saturday March 15, 2008, 7:26 AM


While I do agree that Dean shouldn't have disanfranchized the voters in Florida and Michigan I don't agree with Violet G that both candidates ran in Florida so only a do-over in Michigan should be allowed because neither candidate campaigned in Florida and Hillary was running on her voter recognition ! Personally I think all primaries should be held on February 5th so there is no conflict between the states ,caucuses should be stopped because they don't represent all the people in that state and hand written paper ballots should be used instead of machines that have proven to be flawed and easily tampered with disenfranchizing voters.
So what to do about Florida and Michigan now that we are in this fine mess ? Either split the votes in those states and seat the deligates or let both candidates campaign in those states and have another election and then seat the deligates and may the best man or woman win !

CHIEF DUBIE
Thursday March 13, 2008, 9:14 PM


How can the best man win, if all the votes aren't counted??? Ask Al Gore.

Janet N.
Thursday March 13, 2008, 5:34 PM


Since a redo involves unfunded expenditures a fair solution seems to seat the Michigan and Florida delegations at the convention with their votes evenly divided between the candidates.

Carol B.
Thursday March 13, 2008, 2:07 PM


NO DO OVER VOTING IN MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA

MAY THE BEST MAN WIN

Carol B.
Thursday March 13, 2008, 2:03 PM


To Richard H.
Good for you, that is right!

Carol B.
Thursday March 13, 2008, 2:00 PM


To Rich B.
Florida should not be forgiven, the people knew the rules and voted early anyway. Florida seems to mess up elections. The state after all these years, still don't have a unified voting system.


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