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Bravo Theresa, "As far as MI is concerned, Hillary, Kucinich, Dodd and Gravel where on the ballot. Obama and Edwards were only ones not there. They "chose" to take their names off the ballot. To have a nomination process where by two states don't have a say is not right!!"
Who is hurting the Democratic Party more? Obama? Clinton? Or the media?
 March 31, 2008 - Posted by Catherine Morgan
Why is the media trying to convince Democrats that if Hillary doesn't drop out now, it's the end of the Democratic Party as we know it? The Democratic Party has already, single handedly, ostracized all the voters in Florida and Michigan. Now they want to alienate even more voters, by suggesting that Clinton supporters don't really matter, and later primary states aren't relevant to the nomination. As far as I am concerned, the only people hurting the Democratic Party, are the people suggesting Hillary should drop out, as well as the media who are sacrificing their journalistic integrity for sensationalized stories and ratings. This is from USA Today Allowing the Democratic presidential race to continue several more weeks will not hurt the party's chances in November, former president Bill Clinton said Sunday in San Jose, Calif. He urged people to "chill out" and let the balloting run its course. This is from The Washington Post THE GROWING chorus among some Democrats and other interested observers for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) to get out of the race for the Democratic Party's nomination for president is troubling. We're not promoting Ms. Clinton over Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.), or either of them over Republican Sen. John McCain (Ariz.), for that matter. A time may come when someone should gracefully bow out. But their extended contest informs the electorate and serves to battle-test them both. From an Associated Press article... Debra Starks has heard the calls for Hillary Rodham Clinton to quit the presidential race, and she's not happy about it. The 53-year old Wal-Mart clerk, so bedecked with Clinton campaign buttons most days that friends call her "Button Lady," thinks sexism is playing a role in efforts to push the New York senator from the race. Starks wants Clinton to push back. "The way I look at it, she's a strong woman and she needs to stay in there. She needs to fight," Starks said at a Clinton campaign rally. "If you want to be president, you have to fight for what you want. If she stays in there and does what she's supposed to do, I think she'll be on her way." Amid mounting calls from top Democrats for Clinton to step aside and clear the path for rival Barack Obama, strategists are warning of damage to the party's chances in November if women -- who make up the majority of Democratic voters nationwide, but especially the older, white working-class women who've long formed the former first lady's base -- sense a mostly male party establishment is unfairly muscling Clinton out of the race. From Taylor Marsh As to whether the Republicans could be picking our nominee, I've answered that question before. Boy's Against The Girls? Hate to bring up that gender thing again, but here they are: From Talk Left On George Stepanopoulos' show, Ed Rendell represented the Clinton campaign and John Kerry represented the Obama campaign. Here is the video. It seems clear that the Obama camp has completely backed down from the "Hillary should quit" campaign. That's good. Now they are engaging the the winning metrics. Especially the Michigan and Florida issues. Frankly, I think Kerry did as well as he could with a tough hand. Rendell has become quite adept at this though and he talked "popular vote," the will of the people and MI/FL. For me the Clinton argument is better than the Obama argument. What do you think? Who is hurting the Democratic Party more? Obama? Clinton? Or the media? |
Theresa M.
Monday April 7, 2008, 8:12 PM
"I would have to say the media". But like someone on here said negative reporting seems to sell. But the anchor people have a habit of gloating as well. Take Amy Holmes for instance, that is one women who has a chip on her shoulder. But it don't help that she is Black so there is a bias there. I guess what bothers me the most is when someone says that phrase Hillary is to decisive, it is almost like they are speaking for me. Do me a favor...don't speak for me. As far as MI is concerned, Hillary, Kucinich, Dodd and Gravel where on the ballot. Obama and Edwards were only ones not there. They "chose" to take their names off the ballot. To have a nomination process where by two states don't have a say is not right!! The Democratic party shot themselves in the foot this time. What would have been better is give them a hefty fine. Not punish the candidates and the voters! Obama supporters send him some chicken soup and a pillow, if he can't stand the heat then maybe he should drop! I heard he took a three day vacation, what is he going to be another Bush Jr. and take a vacation once he is in the Whitehouse? In all my years of watching candidates I never saw one take a vacation in the middle of a primary. The longer the primary goe on the more we see how inexperience Obama is.
Joan G.
Thursday April 3, 2008, 5:32 AM
I am a 74-year-old woman who says "a plague on all your houses." The only candidate who was worth considering was Joe Biden and I will write in his name on my ballot.
Kim F.
Wednesday April 2, 2008, 2:06 PM
I campaigned for Obama in the early stages of his candidacy, I too was "all fired up". I had heard the One America speech and it really stoked me, then I noticed discrepancies. If it wasn't about race, why was I only calling black voters. So I decided to do some homework and I did not like what I saw. This was over six months ago and more is coming out daily. I do not like racism and consider my family to be a "melting pot". However, I am sick and tired with being called a racist simply because I no longer support him. I support Hillary, I know there are drawbacks, and maybe the media encouraged me. I am tired of the sexist remarks and the constant harassment about her ankles, her pantsuits, and everything else.
William Boune
Wednesday April 2, 2008, 9:34 AM
Media gone mad?
The media does focus on the negatives, because this raises their ratings, people love dirty laundry!
I think that Hillary and Bill have hurt themselves and the party more than the media coverage of their tone.
I feel that Barack Obama's adult conversations with the public about race and other issues are good for the Democratic party and the country, I want more adult leadership.
As to Michigan and Florida, The Clinton campaign signed the same agreement the other Democratic campaigns did, accepting that those votes may not count. Now Hillary want to change the rules, sounds a lot like the current President to me.
I want a fair minded leader, one who is patient and responds only after a good deal of forethought, intelligently and with classy calm. Someone who has sufficient imagination to look ahead, around the corner, to visualize the unintended results of potential intended actions.
"President" Bush admitted that they lacked imagination prior to 911, that this was their greatest failing and it still is. I would argue they gained no imagination after the 911 attack!
We may get attacked again next year, after the swearing in, if this happens, I want a calm leader with great principled imaginative and intuitive leadership, Barack Obama is the only candidate with these qualities.
This 58 year old white male believes that Obama is the best thing for the party, the country and the future.
I feel the final primaries will turn the tide from the dark side
The media does focus on the negatives, because this raises their ratings, people love dirty laundry!
I think that Hillary and Bill have hurt themselves and the party more than the media coverage of their tone.
I feel that Barack Obama's adult conversations with the public about race and other issues are good for the Democratic party and the country, I want more adult leadership.
As to Michigan and Florida, The Clinton campaign signed the same agreement the other Democratic campaigns did, accepting that those votes may not count. Now Hillary want to change the rules, sounds a lot like the current President to me.
I want a fair minded leader, one who is patient and responds only after a good deal of forethought, intelligently and with classy calm. Someone who has sufficient imagination to look ahead, around the corner, to visualize the unintended results of potential intended actions.
"President" Bush admitted that they lacked imagination prior to 911, that this was their greatest failing and it still is. I would argue they gained no imagination after the 911 attack!
We may get attacked again next year, after the swearing in, if this happens, I want a calm leader with great principled imaginative and intuitive leadership, Barack Obama is the only candidate with these qualities.
This 58 year old white male believes that Obama is the best thing for the party, the country and the future.
I feel the final primaries will turn the tide from the dark side
Anna L.
Wednesday April 2, 2008, 8:15 AM
Thank you Carol t.! I too am an over 50 white woman and am pro Obama. You are right about Sen Clinton running to Bill and I was not impressed with the tears she showed in NH. Those things did not make me see her as more "human" but put the sexist spotlight on herself which we women didn't need (did we see any other candidate weep when things got tough?) Women have always had that stuck in their face and she backed it up. Then people wonder why Barack has such a large male following (besides his approachable manner and what appears to be some sound ideas for this country).
To anyone who may want something to think about, outside the box, so to speak...we keep hearing about who has the experience for this "job". Tell me, do we have college courses President 101,
are there seminars on the internal workings of a President, or the real one, internships like Doctors or Lawyers have?? And, if experience means following what was done before (that is the definition is it not?) do we want "experience"? Experience in dealing with people of all walks of life, knowing how the Government and all its components work, and the ability to take others advice into consideration when making decisions are things where experience is essential. As for the Rev. Wright, has anyone bothered to listen to all the good things he accomplished? Regardless of the negative, there must've been a lot more positive. Or are people now against Oprah and other well known people who also went to this church?
To anyone who may want something to think about, outside the box, so to speak...we keep hearing about who has the experience for this "job". Tell me, do we have college courses President 101,
are there seminars on the internal workings of a President, or the real one, internships like Doctors or Lawyers have?? And, if experience means following what was done before (that is the definition is it not?) do we want "experience"? Experience in dealing with people of all walks of life, knowing how the Government and all its components work, and the ability to take others advice into consideration when making decisions are things where experience is essential. As for the Rev. Wright, has anyone bothered to listen to all the good things he accomplished? Regardless of the negative, there must've been a lot more positive. Or are people now against Oprah and other well known people who also went to this church?
Anna L.
Wednesday April 2, 2008, 7:05 AM
I beleive the media is doing the most damage, howewver, the voters themselves must carry their share of the blame.....we listen to all that hype. How about just getting down to who plans on doing what for all of us. The pages of my life are pretty much written, its my children and grandchildren whose quality of life I am concerned with (the ones all this affects the most aren't old enough to have a say!).
I do want to say though, as a Michigander and Democrat to boot....the state was originally at fault by ignoring the "rules", and then Sen. Clinton must bear her share for putting her name on the ballot when the rest went along with the party sanction. If the others had played underhand like she did at that time I honestly don't think she would have gotten the kind of results she thinks. Now that it is tainted there is no way for an honest, legit, vote. As they say around these parts, "You get what your hand calls for!" Deal with it!!
I do want to say though, as a Michigander and Democrat to boot....the state was originally at fault by ignoring the "rules", and then Sen. Clinton must bear her share for putting her name on the ballot when the rest went along with the party sanction. If the others had played underhand like she did at that time I honestly don't think she would have gotten the kind of results she thinks. Now that it is tainted there is no way for an honest, legit, vote. As they say around these parts, "You get what your hand calls for!" Deal with it!!
Ann Bolton
Wednesday April 2, 2008, 1:56 AM
When are we Floridians going to sign a petition to Howard Dean that says we will not vote at all if our primary vote doesn't count. Michigan should do the same.
Wednesday April 9, 2008, 1:47 PM
i am a sophmore.
in my opinion.
i dont want a terrorist controling me.
obama has be to school oversees as a child and taught and trained all this stuff.
i do not trust him having control over our country.
in the bible it states.
and i will translate it.
it is in revolations.
that a mean or neither skin white or black will take over the strongest country. then send in his people to take over the world.
it also states in translation that he would be a democrat.
so i look at it like this.
obama is neither white or black.
he is musslim.
he is a democrat .
and also he says he does not practice that anylonger but how do you know.
can you read his mind and say " oh no he isnt anymore because his mind just told me?"
no you cant.
if anything i would want hilary to win the democratic party.
she has once before help run our country and did a very well job of it.
she is more experience with not only the u.s. but also the world.
thanks for your time on reading this.
kortni harper
16 years of age
louisiana