New York Archbishop Says Gay Marriage will Lead to Incest

An New York archbishop who has major pull in opposing efforts to pass marriage equality in the state said during an interview this week that same-sex couples have no more entitlement to marry each other than he is entitled to marry his mother, and alleged that legislating for marriage equality will lead to further “tampering” with marriage.

These were the words of the Archbishop of New York Timothy Dolan when he spoke to Morely Safer on the 60 Minutes Overtime program.

From The Advocate:

The former Milwaukee archbishop explained the Catholic Church’s opposition to marriage equality to Morley Safer with a baseball analogy.

“I have a strong desire to play shortstop for the Yankees,” he said. “I don’t have a right to, because I don’t have what it takes. And that would be what the church would say about marriage. We would say marriage by nature, marriage by definition is between a man and woman for life, giving children. Don’t tamper with the definition.”

Pressed by Safer to explain how exactly marriage equality would harm heterosexual marriages, Dolan responded, “Because where then would the tampering stop?”

“I mean, I love my mom,” said Dolan. “I don’t have the right to marry her, OK? There are certain rights and attractions in life that are very beautiful and noble but don’t entitle you to marriage.”

Head over to The Advocate to watch excerpts from the interview.

While I’m always pleased to hear someone showing love for their mother, Dolan fails to even brush the truth of this topic with his labored analogy.

If Dolan can not distinguish between the love he feels for his mother and the love that same-sex couples feel, it may be wise for him to steer clear of that minefield entirely and let those that can make that distinction enjoy the rights of marriage they deserve.

I would offer, however, that an increase in loving couples marrying and therein seeking to commit themselves to one another could do nothing but strengthen marriage as a societal concept and while I entirely respect Safer’s right to freedom of speech, I would caution that his opinion on the religious definition of marriage should not be brought into a discussion on civil marriage equality in the state.

Safer’s views on how the Catholic Church feels about marriage equality would also seem to put him out of step with the majority of American Catholics.

New research by the Public Religion Research Institute has found that American Catholics are in fact more supportive than any other Christian tradition when it comes to favoring legal recognition for same-sex couples, and while there’s still some division over whether that recognition should be civil marriage (43%) or civil unions (31%), only 22% are categorically opposed to any form of recognition. The survey also shows that a majority of American Catholics are dissatisfied with the way the clergy handles the issue of homosexuality. Read more on that here.

The Human Rights Campaign is currently running a New Yorkers for Marriage Equality campaign, featuring videos by the Fabulous Beekman Boys, Russell Simmons, Mark and Sunrise Ruffalo, John Slattery, Joan Rivers, Barbara Bush, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Whoopi Goldberg, Daphne Rubin-Vega, Kyra Sedgwick and Kevin Bacon, Fran Drescher, Moby, Mayor Michael Bloomberg, Jeanne Moutoussamy-Ashe, Julianne Moore and Kenneth Cole – with more to follow in the coming weeks and months.

You can find out more information and watch videos from the series at New Yorkers for Marriage Equality.

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Tanyaisa P.
Tanyaisa P6 years ago

how much more ignorant can a person get to say such things

Monica B.
Monica B.6 years ago

Good, because it's ridiculous to say that gay couples shouldn't get married.
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Kathy Perez
Kathy Johnson6 years ago

I used to try to convince people that being in love with someone of the same sex isn't a "choice", it just IS. I used to try to convince them that same sex couples are people who love one another and who have the right to live together, be married, adopt, live their lives; after all, they aren't hurting anyone. But now it seems so pointless, because some people are so stuck on there own personal brand of "normal" that they can't accept someone who is different from them in even the smallest ways. It shouldn't matter who you love... it shouldn't matter who you marry... if you don't agree with same sex marriage then don't be gay. Who put this guy in charge of other's decisions anyway? We should simply disregard these types of people and fight for those who only want happiness and equality.

Don Go
Don Go6 years ago


Maarja L.
Maarja L6 years ago

Religious marriage? Yes, if it amuses the archbishop then he doesn't have to wed same-sex couples in his church, because his favorite passage of holy writ forbids it. Some churches will do it, and that is not his concern any more.

But civil marriage? This isn't about uniting people in holy matrimony, with religious approval et cetera. And I can't see how same-sex marriage leads to incest. Yes, for some people they are similar, because they consider both of these things abnormal, but... really?

Ed U.
Ed U.6 years ago

Sounds a "little" backward. Hasn't the church acknowledged genetic factors that aren't reversible? I resent judgmental conditions from religion.

Rachel S.
Rachel S6 years ago

I agree with Lika S. nuff said

Lika S.
Lika P6 years ago

So marriage is permission to have sex, and sex is for procreation only, and a man's job is to provide for his family... If you go by that scenario, men who don't make a livable income for his family with benefits and what not shouldn't have a family. So lets give vasectomies to all poor men so women won't get pregnant from them, because welfare queens should be illegal. the male procedure is out patient, the female one is in patient, so it's more logical right?

Does my post sound ridiculous so far? Good, because it's ridiculous to say that gay couples shouldn't get married. Why would anyone want incest? It makes no sense.

Lets ban porn because it leads to insane expectations of men wanting to be larger than their normal size, and that women can have orgasms w/o being touched, or in acrobatic positions... Oh, wait, I suppose it's wrong to have sex for pleasure even when it bonds a couple, because sex is for procreation only.... so a man with a low sperm count shouldn't be married because he can't help make babies? A woman who goes through menopause should be cheated on because she can't bear children?

A committed couple is a good thing, and maybe the gay couples will show us that they are more faithful and teach straight couples how to have a long marriage.

Kathleen O.
Kathleen O.6 years ago

If the Catholic church means to only allow people to marry who "have what it takes" to make babies, then no couple could marry if they were past childbearing age, or one of them was infertile.

Mike S.
Mike S6 years ago

I question the validity and truth of a Catholic prince of the church...after all, it is HIS organization which has been sodomizing and raping young boys and girls around the world for years...and the ONE HOLY APOSTOLIC CATHOLIC CHURCH (I remember from my catechism class) has been instrumental in covering up these crimes...and allowing their buddies to get reassigned and remain in contact with children. This church is a place of self rightousness, deceit, lies, perverted sex, pediophile, and sin. The bishops and archbishops should put sackcloth on, roll in ash, and roam the streets begging for forgiveness and collecting money to help the children (now adults) whose lives they shattered. Since they have no moral position, they should keep their mouths shut about something they do not and compassion between two human beings.
I have to wonder, did his mother sleep with him...or did his father sodomize him...I wonder because of his perverted view of life.