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Six Miles Per Gallon? PLEASE TAKE ACTION ! !

Environment  (tags: environment, habitat, nature, protection, pollution, trucks )

- 3068 days ago -
Tell the EPA along with Department of Transportation to make sure the biggest trucks on the road emit less global warming pollution and cut our dependence on oil.


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Monica D (580)
Saturday January 22, 2011, 1:30 pm
And buy local.

Erin R (181)
Saturday January 22, 2011, 2:41 pm

Susan S (187)
Saturday January 22, 2011, 3:04 pm
Signed and noted. It is silly when there is a place for state/province and Canada but when you input your postal code it comes back with error...your zip code must be numeric. I hope that one day petition makers fix this glitch.

Michela M (3964)
Saturday January 22, 2011, 5:37 pm

SIGNED and Noted!! Thanks, Ciao!! Michela

Robert B (10)
Saturday January 22, 2011, 5:59 pm

Robert G (3)
Saturday January 22, 2011, 6:05 pm
Signed and Noted.

Patricia Geller (34)
Saturday January 22, 2011, 8:09 pm
Good place to start!! Thanks for info

tracey p (81)
Saturday January 22, 2011, 8:13 pm
couldn't sign without US zip code. Noted.

Carol H (229)
Saturday January 22, 2011, 8:34 pm
signed and noted, thanks Cher

Mac R (289)
Saturday January 22, 2011, 10:57 pm
Signed n noted, thanks Cher.

Sanja T (154)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 12:51 am
noted... and signed

Judy C (91)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 1:12 am
Commented and signed. Thanks, Cher.

Norm C (74)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 2:46 am
Done and done

. (0)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 2:52 am
Wouldn't allow me to sign. "The zip code must be a numeric 5-digit or 9-digit code".

Brenda Towers (0)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 2:56 am
Cut pollution from these huge vehicles!

Danuta W (1251)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 3:22 am

Ben O (128)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 5:50 am
Electric Freight Trains, that's my idea of Green transportation. Also a diesel train can haul as much freight as 280 trucks and move a ton of freight an average of 457 miles on one gallon...
Over a long distance (eg from the east coast to the westcoast) cargo Ships are the answer. An example: a quite ordinary ship takes easily a load of 25,000 tons...
To buy local as much as possible is of course the best!

Beanie Hudson (40)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 6:42 am
Done! =D

Past Member (0)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 6:45 am

Beverly L (72)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 6:52 am
Noted and signed ~ thank you Cher!

Morris G. (18)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 7:28 am
Does nobody see how faulty and ridiculous this reasoning is? Do you just sign petitions without considering what they are saying?
If a fully loaded truck (80,000lbs) gets 6 mpg this is nearly 2-1/2 times MORE EFFICIENT than a Prius (maximum weight limit 4,000lbs). Do the math: the truck can move 4800lbs 100 miles on a gallon of fuel while the Prius can only move 2000lbs 100 miles on a gallon.

Gary C (5)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 7:44 am
noted thankyou....

Destiney E (3)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 8:18 am
I still fail to see where we can't come up with SOMETHING better. Our transportation options, SUCK, and I think we are just being kept in someone's pocket.... Oil has been used for enough generations now, I just can't see where at least one of them hasn't done anything different.

Past Member (0)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 9:10 am
Why aren't we building a solar/wind powered Mag-Lev train across the country? Imagine the jobs then pride when it runs. That was my idea to save the country but we keep compromising with the fascist right.

Sir Walk F (124)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 11:26 am
Thank You, Morris, for being the only one here displaying critical thinking skills.

This petition offers no explanation of HOW commercial trucks should be made 'more efficient'. It just vaguely demands it. How American.

Here's a solution, stop buying crap that got trucked in on one of these things. Now THAT's efficiency.

Sunday January 23, 2011, 12:04 pm
Sir Walk F & Morris,

I would be willing to bet that the two of you already know that the average distance products are shipped in this country is about 1000 - 1500 miles!

It is crazy for companies to ship produce, meat and other goods over 1000 miles. It is a waste of limited natural resources. It contributes to the damage of the environment!

Sunday January 23, 2011, 12:22 pm
As a former Instructor, Risk Management Consultant for the trucking industry. I can say from personal experience that 5, 5.5, 6, 6.5 and 7 miles to the gallon for Semi's is already being done! (I even know of a few people who coaxed 8 miles to the gallon out of their semi's!

Because of my experience with this subject, I can say that State and Federal Regulations have been forcing changes on the trucking industry!

An interesting unforeseen problem that came up with fuel efficient Semi's. As the vehicles became more fuel and aerodynamic efficient, the industry started seeing more runaway trucks because the braking technology hasn't kept up. Drivers were burning up the brakes a lot faster!


Mike S (86)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 12:27 pm
Noted and thank you Cher.

Ludger W (65)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 12:30 pm
signed, ty

. (0)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 12:34 pm

William Y (54)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 12:44 pm
noted & signed

Ann L (15)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 1:00 pm
Signed. Thanks Cher

Mary Donnelly (47)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 1:06 pm
Thanks Cher. Signed and sent.

donald Baumgartner (6)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 1:12 pm

Bernell Trapp (236)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 1:16 pm
Noted, signed, and forwarded to others. Bernell

Alice B (241)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 1:17 pm

Krasimira B (175)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 1:33 pm
Noted, thank you Cher.

Robert Tomlinson (62)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 1:41 pm

Ruth R (246)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 1:54 pm
Signed. Noted.

Natividad P (104)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 1:54 pm
Noted and signed. Thank you

Morris G. (18)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 2:06 pm
"Why aren't we building a solar/wind powered Mag-Lev train across the country? Imagine the jobs then pride when it runs. That was my idea to save the country but we keep compromising with the fascist right."
MAGLEV trains are actually less efficient than jet airplanes. This is because at high speeds the air drag is higher on a MAGLEV than a jet at 30,000 ft where the air is much less dense. Of course they run on electricity so if you could generate enough of it without the use of fossil fuels they could potentially carry passengers as cheaply as jets. But the vast amounts of electricity they need would require nuclear generation if you didn't use coal. When it comes to freight though MAGLEVS are not practical. This is because a conventional train can carry 5 times the weight of a MAGLEV.

Sonny Honrado (5)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 2:22 pm

Kathlene Lentz (30)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 2:30 pm
If ANY vehicle is exempt, it should only be those that are emergency vehicles such as fire trucks.

anne Barusta (0)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 2:30 pm
could not sign, Canada is ok, but the postal code is not accepted.

Lloyd H (46)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 2:59 pm
Signed! But you do realize that it will require more evil government regulation from an angency tha the Repu-Tea Bagged are set on abolishing or defunding into total ineffectiveness?!? Along with all of the suggestion that Rep. Issa get back from the 150 letters he sent to Corproate Profiteers asking which regulations they no longer wished to have the ir profit margins lowered.

wendy w (47)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 3:30 pm
action taken,

Susan Pernot (75)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 3:58 pm
done and done

Ann Breeden (65)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 4:14 pm
Green trains is the way to go plus buy local as much as possible.

Past Member (0)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 4:22 pm
Signed. Thank you for posting.

Alicia N (87)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 4:59 pm
Action taken, thanks.

Bruno Moreira (61)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 5:04 pm
noted thanks

Past Member (0)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 5:10 pm
you are a 1000 miles away from the produce,
the options are
1 ship the produce.
2 ship you to the produce !
thanks morris and sir walk for being able to think and not just whine and complain constantly!
how many of you could get away from your keyboard and design a more efficient truck?

Marta B (45)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 5:16 pm
Noted. Thanks for sharing, Cher!

Linda G (187)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 5:38 pm
This and the comments above have given me plenty to think about. Aside from the obvious, buying locally, we need to rethink our massive desire to consume, consume, consume. How simply are we willing to live? The power of the pocketbook speaks much more loudly than petitions alone.

Morris G. (18)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 6:00 pm
Good comments from those that are adding to the discussion. Since trains seem to be so popular(with me as well) it is interesting that tied for the largest categories of freight shipped on trains are actually coal for power generation and TRUCKS with 21% each. Well more specifically they are trailers and containers that will be hooked to a truck at the rail yard.

Liev Black (4)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 6:11 pm
I'm always appalled that the most polluting vehicles on the road are the ones exempted from cleaning up their act >.

Sir Walk F (124)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 6:16 pm
The only reason companies can afford to ship goods thousands of miles via truck is because the government subsidizes the price of a barrel of oil, keeping it affordable for consumers and producers and shippers alike.

Removing these subsidies is the best way to make using big fuel-guzzling trucks unaffordable and therefore less likely.

In addition, as others like Morris G have already implied, these large semi-trucks are actually incredibly efficient for how much weight and mass they can carry.

Sir Walk F (124)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 6:21 pm
Morris- I would appear most people want a magic wand that will make their consumer lives more 'eco-friendly', instead of learning to NOT use infrastructure. They want magic trains that operate on butterfly farts and semi-trucks delivering 'organic' lettuce from california running on water.

Peggy A (109)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 6:27 pm
Action taken

Lionel G. (4)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 7:44 pm
fA freight train can move a ton of cargo 436 miles on a gallon of fuel vs at best 205 miles on a pavement-pounding big rig. One of the reasons is this low rolling resistance of steel wheels on steel rails. Maglev can't move freight at all for the reasons given in another post. It isn't even that good for passenger service. We rode the Shanghai Maglev in 2005; it reached 258 mph. A Chinese steel-wheel passenger train recently ran at 302 mph. this was stock off-the-shelf equipment. And yes, we are unnecessarily shipping food and other merchandise huge distances (like 1500 miles avg for food) just to fatten the corporations that love globalization. China has its problems, but their transportation is not dictated by a highway lobby as ours is.

Susan Ayres-Lynch (126)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 8:30 pm
Noted and signed.

Rhonda Maness (580)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 9:16 pm
Thanks Cher

Colleen L (3)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 9:28 pm
Signed. Thanks Cher

Past Member (0)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 9:33 pm
Signed and noted, thanks

Past Member (0)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 11:19 pm
This may not have occurred to you but everything is not available everywhere all the time!
Wheeled trains are more efficient on fuel use but require large investments in land and infrastructure.
IE the train companies want government subsidies which will raise your taxes.
It still might be worth it in some cases.
Fuel cost for semi trucks is a very real concern,
Much has been done to make them more efficient.
6 miles a gallon is not unreasonable considering
how large a truck is and how much it can carry.
IE more tax dollars for more high paid government workers to notice
that things are almost as efficient as they can be now.
Again rather than sit at you computer and complain
take a science class and come up with a better idea!

Genoveva M (328)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 11:34 pm
Thanks Cher, signed and noted.

Lisa Zarafonetis (168)
Sunday January 23, 2011, 11:43 pm
Signed & Shared on Facebook!!! :(

Dogan Ozkan (5)
Monday January 24, 2011, 12:54 am
signed and noted

Lynne B (0)
Monday January 24, 2011, 3:37 am
Six miles a gallon? They wouldn't be running vehicles like that in Britain. It's approx $2 a LITRE. It doesn't protect the environment, but it certainly stops companies from using these kinds of vehicles.

Annick Letourneau (67)
Monday January 24, 2011, 4:58 am
Signed and noted... but problem with zipcode... Thanks

Esther Z (94)
Monday January 24, 2011, 5:00 am
Noted and signed.

Helena K (57)
Monday January 24, 2011, 6:09 am
signed and noted ty

Marcus B (13)
Monday January 24, 2011, 7:30 am
signed and noted

Carol C (2)
Monday January 24, 2011, 8:04 am
Sent the message and some thoughts of my own. Natural gas use, update rail and roads. We must work toward "greening" our country.

Care two is lost (252)
Monday January 24, 2011, 8:08 am
Green progress is a must!

Lidia E F (8)
Monday January 24, 2011, 8:30 am
Noted,and signed.

Faith Billingham (3)
Monday January 24, 2011, 9:12 am
signed and noted

Jere W (9)
Monday January 24, 2011, 11:10 am
Noted & signed

Natalie Eline (0)
Monday January 24, 2011, 12:01 pm

Laura S. (1)
Monday January 24, 2011, 12:42 pm
Agreed and with buy local oil!!!!

Past Member (0)
Monday January 24, 2011, 12:49 pm
Critical thinking. Where have I heard that before?
Don't improve mpg because we're doing so-so?
Don't have a Mag-Lev that is powered by nature because it has drag?

Who calls THAT critical thinking? Raise your hand if you know right from wrong. How about we think about it? Negative thinking didn't get us to the moon. It has never served the people that I can remember. Wow.

Ramona Thompson (210)
Monday January 24, 2011, 1:14 pm
Good news story. Thank you Cher. SN.

It is enlightening to find how ignorant I was. Gee, I was thinking the (regular) railway system (intermodals) could help with lowering fuel consumption and pollution of these BIG trucks. Time would be a factor, though as I see it.

No matter what, no one here should feel badly about expressing their ideas and opinions. We are just regular people expressing sincere concerns about what we see destroying our planet and trying to make it better.

tom Booth (84)
Monday January 24, 2011, 1:21 pm
wow alot said. good post good comments

Alexandra S (24)
Monday January 24, 2011, 2:08 pm
noted, and unfortunately i don't live in USA so i can't sign. In my country(switzerland) we have succeeded in transporting a great deal per train. And we're constantly switching even more:D
Building the new tunnel helped a great deal. Hope we will be able to transport everything without trucks in the future.

Janice Bernath (20)
Monday January 24, 2011, 2:14 pm
Signed and noted. GRRR! I hate those trucks! As for natural gas (mentioned above), NO FRACKING PLEASE! I and my family live in NY and PA. And buy locally - if Reagan hadn't 'given' the family farms to agribusiness in the 1980s, we'd still have them and they'd still be in business on their own instead of BEING owned by overseers.

Morris G. (18)
Monday January 24, 2011, 2:36 pm
"Six miles a gallon? They wouldn't be running vehicles like that in Britain."
Actually they do run trucks just like that in the UK. As far as mpg they are virtually the same as US trucks. In fact many of them ARE US built trucks. They can appear to be slightly more efficient per load because the UK allows 97,000lbs (44 tonnes) maximum vs the US allowed maximum of 80,000lbs. Due to road maintenance and safety issues the US mandates a lower gross vehilce weight..
However the UK is LESS efficient overall in moving freight because they do not have the rail freight infrastructure that the US has. 90% of the freight moved in the UK is by truck whereas only 70% of the freight moved in the US is by truck.

beba h (89)
Monday January 24, 2011, 3:00 pm
Grow a garden, buy from a local farmer's market.

Past Member (0)
Monday January 24, 2011, 3:02 pm
The single thing that would save more diesel fuel than anything else is to out law leaving a truck or train idling when it is not moving. For some reason diesel fueled vehicles are never turned off! With semi trucks it is for the comfort of the driver sleeping in the back. Some truck stops have back up power and heat, air conditioning.
Again buying locally is not an option, it is winter, there is no fresh food here at all!

Tuesday January 25, 2011, 7:58 am

Jason Green (235)
Tuesday January 25, 2011, 8:03 am
Thank you for taking action

Past Member (0)
Tuesday January 25, 2011, 12:09 pm
All of this waste has to stop TODAY and that is a fact.

I signed and expressed myself.


Quanta Kiran (67)
Wednesday January 26, 2011, 9:15 am

Debra Van Way (12)
Wednesday January 26, 2011, 11:56 am
Signed and noted. Thanks.

Ira M (211)
Thursday January 27, 2011, 8:27 am
Signed and noted, thank you!

Ann Eastman (31)
Friday January 28, 2011, 11:03 am
Noted, had already signed.

jane richmond (10)
Monday May 2, 2011, 6:25 am
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