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A Tale of Two Veterans

US Politics & Gov't  (tags: Politics, Veterans, Refugees, Congress, Oklahoma, Steve Russell, Ivano Rodriguez, Iraq, Afghanistan, PTSD, marijuana, citizenship, petition )

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This is a story of two very different veterans, both of whom have something to contribute to the discussion about who gets in, and who stays in, the US.


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Jim Phillips (3247)
Saturday November 21, 2015, 9:08 am
Thank you for signing VoteVets' refugee petition


JL A (281)
Saturday November 21, 2015, 9:11 am
Excellent contrasting vets JD--petition already signed. Much of the verbage in GOP mouths these days is indeed WWII vintage and demonstrating a desire to return to mistakes rather than learning from them.

Yesterday I read a piece indicating it is corporate fossil fuel interests who are dictating both ISIS actions, since they are funded by Mideastern oil either via monied persons in the region or by bootleg operations in occupied areas, and GOP responses.

Thanks for the petition cross post here Jim.

Darren Woolsey (218)
Saturday November 21, 2015, 9:21 am
Signed petition.

Past Member (0)
Saturday November 21, 2015, 10:46 am
Thanks Jim 4 the petition link which i signed+thanks Joanne. Vets are treated so poorly--it's appalling.

Pat B (356)
Saturday November 21, 2015, 10:54 am
Ivano's story is so so sad. I also feel that anyone (non citizen), who has gone to battle (or not), served our Country should receive an automatic citizenship. Kind of a military Veteran fast track. Again, do what's right for social justice and for the man/woman who has served in the military.

The refugees need our help and be welcomed to the US.

Have already signed this petition

Highland News: I hope/pray for all the Ali's and Ayland's, it's so tragic!

Thank you, Joanne for post.

Lona G (66)
Saturday November 21, 2015, 1:21 pm
Surprising and good to see that even a Republican Representative can have some brief moments of sanity and clarity of thinking, peppered with a dash of compasion, as Steve Russell has shown us. Too bad it didn't last very long and it didn't change anything at all.

Then we're put straight again with the sad and twisted tale of Ivano Rodriguez. If Republicans can't find compassion in their heart dealing with a legal alien who has lived in America most of his life and served it in the military better than most even though he had no citizenship, then it is no wonder they don't have any feeling in their icy hearts for refugees on the run for their lives from the Da'esh.

Animae C (507)
Saturday November 21, 2015, 2:11 pm
Thanx for the petition link Jim.
Thank you for signing VoteVets' refugee petition

Thanx Joanne

Mitchell D (82)
Saturday November 21, 2015, 6:41 pm

I have to echo TC's comment. It is sad that Russell could, in one moment be talking about compassion, and in the next bow to GOPig marching orders.

Rodriguez' situation is sad in a different way.He ought to be given citizenship. The feds ought to let go of their bs about medical pot.

Lynn Squance (235)
Saturday November 21, 2015, 7:21 pm
"… my feeling is than any non citizen who serves in the US military is automatically entitled to citizenship, and we should by God give it to him."

I could not agree more, JD. I read earlier about Ivano Rodriguez and was appalled at his treatment. Earlier this year, I read about a veteran from American Samoa who was not accorded the respect he should have received from the US. And several years ago, I read about some other non citizen US vets that also did not receive the care and respect they should have received. As I remember, all these veterans had been good "soldiers" sent into harms way. This is not the way it should be.

It is unfortunate that Russell chose not to vote his values, voting instead in lockstep with the Republican Party. I wonder if such duplicity will be remembered come election time as a positive or negative, if at all.

This from Wikipedia:

As a state senator Russell authored the Soldiers Relief Act that made Oklahoma’s serving military tax exempt, affecting over 50,000 soldiers and their families. He also authored the Soldiers Credentialing Act, the law that allows credit for soldiers skills through direct certification rather than lengthy schooling allowing them to quickly enter the work force. He was also the lawmaker most known for the defense of the 2nd Amendment, restoring lost firearms freedoms and as a staunch defender of the Bill of Rights.

When it comes to the military, it seems Russell is in the wrong party.

Laurie H (818)
Saturday November 21, 2015, 7:37 pm
TY for the petition Jim & Joanne for sharing & JL for sending!!~

Edith B (146)
Saturday November 21, 2015, 9:11 pm

Thanks for posting this, Joanne. I really am sorry Russell did not vote his consciences, but chose to follow his party. He seems to have the right ideas, but maybe lacking in courage. Ivano Rodriguez should certainly receive citizenship and should not be punished for using medical marijuana. Seems to me using that against him is another illustration of the small minds that run most of our government these days. Anyone who has served in the military and risked their life should be given citizenship. The xenophobia is at an all time high now.


Nita L (127)
Sunday November 22, 2015, 12:46 am
Signed the petition and shared. Thank you Joanne.

James Maynard (84)
Sunday November 22, 2015, 6:12 am
Petition signed. Thank you!

Terrie Williams (798)
Sunday November 22, 2015, 9:00 am
Thank you for signing VoteVets' refugee petition. (Twice.) Shared and noted, Thanks, Jim.

Our Immigration system is whacked and to do this to someone who served our country in two different war beyond sickening.

The Rethug Rep, he gets it as far as the difference between a refugee and an immigrant. Not many on his side of the isle does or are willfully ignorant of it. He's still a pandering GOPeepad though...but I thank him for his service.

Gene J (285)
Sunday November 22, 2015, 9:10 am
"We must not become them. They win if we give up who we are, and even more so, without a fight."

This is and should always be THE key to our foreign policy and our response to the variety of evils inhabiting our world in these times. Hold to your values, let love be the answer to every question, and everything else will fall into place. It has always been thus. We just don't always seem to know that.

Angelika R (143)
Sunday November 22, 2015, 11:08 am
Thx Joanne! signed earlier from email, of course!
I see hope, even if pale and little. But there ARE those voices disagreeing with what's wrong, that is encouraging! Even in Congress where at least 3 brave ones (HI, VA +GA) took action with a bill against the hypocricy and charade in Syria! That's in addition to all those speaking out for taking in refugees.
Always better to AVOID veterans in the first place!

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Saturday January 30, 2016, 10:56 am
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