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US Politics & Gov't  (tags: Politics, Furies, banking, Muslims, children, allergies, jail death, black lives )

- 1204 days ago -
A post on TomCat's blog. A couple of stories this week which seem to me to call for the intervention of the Greek Furies.


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Lona G (66)
Saturday February 27, 2016, 5:24 am
Hijab: can understand at some level where the employees in the bank were coming from when a woman in hijab entered after they had a robbery at gunpoint by thugs with facial coverings. Occurrences like that led to Dutch laws prohibiting anyone from entering a public building with his or her face covered. It doesn't matter if that is a motor helmet with visor, a baklava or a burqa. Lawmakers wouldn't go any further when our darling Geert Wilders wanted the hijab - or head rag as he called it so charmingly - banned. Common sense dictated that anything worn that made identification impossible and was threatening to others could be banned without infringing on their human or religious rights. However a head rag or hijab, doesn't cover the face and isn't banned. So the SNB on Omaha went far beyond that by requiring that everyone entering must remove all face, eye, and head coverings and worse, still refusing the women entrance when she removed the hijab. From that moment on it was undoubtedly discrimination an the basis of religion and Meagra has her job cut out to deal with both the bank employees and the posters of these obnoxious comments. As if she hasn't enough on her plate these days ;-((

Allergies: This one is a tough one, you needed to be there to see who was applauding, when and why. Some say people applauded only because the plane finally took of after 1.5 hours delay - was that all due to the allergic reaction? - and they didn't even know that people were getting off. The family has felt they were applauded off the plane, so for some close by that may have been the case. And would they have been applauding if the family not had been Hispanic? And would the crew have been so callous if they weren't delayed or the family Caucasian. That the father has terminal throat cancer is beside the point, so why bring it up. All in all a piece of reporting that leads to more questions than answers it.

Death through dehydration: I think this is a case for both Tisiphone and Alecto: Tisiphone for the murder of Joyce Curnell - If you drag a woman from a hospital's emergency room where she was brought by ambulance and then leave her to die in a cel without medical treatment then you've committed murder in my book - and Alecto for the fact she was dragged from hospital for unpaid court fines. WTF (excuse my language), is it now normal that hospitals now do background checks on black people who are brought in, report any warrants to law enforcement and have them taken away mid-treatment. How come they have access to this information in a hospital!!! It's not like she had murdered someone and was on a wanted list. And because BOTH hospital and jail refused her treatment she is dead.

JL A (281)
Saturday February 27, 2016, 6:05 am
Knee-jerk policy changes are always risky because conflicts with laws can be missed too easily, like what happened in Omaha.

My heart goes out to that boy and his family. The airline does have a responsibility for passengers' health and safety.

I think the hospital has some liability on this one, too.

Animae C (509)
Saturday February 27, 2016, 6:50 am
Thanx Joanne

Pat B (356)
Saturday February 27, 2016, 7:06 am
Banking while Muslim: Imo, this lady was discriminated as soon as she approached the door. Would they have asked a nun to remove her coif, or a rabbi to remove his kippah? Perhaps the banking staff can take cultural relations classes to learn how to treat ALL their customers with respect.

Megaera2: I feel bad for the little boy & his family. Allergic reactions are nothing to scoff at, and must be handled appropriately, and immediately. I hope the airline recognizes this, and handles this accordingly.

Tisiphone & Alecto: My god, like the county couldn't have waited?? until Ms.Curnell was released from the hospital in good health, to issue a bench warrant?? I can't believe the hospital released her to go to jail in poor health....and that when she got there at the jail, no medical treatment was provided, and didn't get any water!!! I agree with JL, in that both facilities were negligent in Ms. Curnell's passing. Such a tragedy that could have been avoided !! So sad.

Thank you, Joanne for post.

Lona G (66)
Saturday February 27, 2016, 12:16 pm
Darn speller. I know there's an expression with "egg on your face", but baklava? It's sticky enough, but of course I meant a balaclava ;-)

Debra G (0)
Saturday February 27, 2016, 6:40 pm
It was Joyce Curnell's son who called the police. He was afraid she'd been drinking again (she was an alcoholic) and hoped she'd detox in jail. She was surrendered to the authorities after being discharged from the hospital with medication for her illness. The health provider (oxymoron) nurse for the jail was under the impression that her nausea was part of her alcoholic detox. She was offered a chance to retrieve her gastroenteritis medicine, but she said she was unable to do so, and nobody else could get it without a doctor's order. Piss-poor care by the jail, and a son carrying around a lot of guilt.

JL A (281)
Saturday February 27, 2016, 7:37 pm
She should have been in the medical portion of the jail and the discharge summary from the hospital given to the medical staff responsible for continuing her medical care-not in an ordinary cell.

Dt Nc (0)
Saturday February 27, 2016, 8:56 pm

Joanne D (37)
Saturday February 27, 2016, 9:47 pm
Thanks Debra, that is more information than I had from three sources, including all the comments thereon. I had gathered that her son made the call, and it had something to do with her alcoholism, and that it was apparently done for a caring reason which went horribly wrong. Since I didn't really have facts at posting time, I left that out, thinking that anyone who pursued it to the comments would see what I had seen. We can talk all we want about how dumb it was to think law enforcement could help, but there are a lot of people who are really not informed about law enforcement, and I don't see at his fault, although if he felt guilt before, he will probably feel more now, along with the loss.

Incidentally I gather that the jail was government operated, but that the medical provider was a private firm contracting to the jail. When you start looking at what in the prison system is for-profit as opposed to government run, you get into quite a labyrinth.

Past Member (0)
Sunday February 28, 2016, 12:17 am
As usual, inept, perhaps more than uncaring prison system. The masses are extremely expendable. Corrupt government. Even when private medical providers get meds to prisons, it's too often the prison who fails the inmate. Also, the son sure went to great lengths, didn't he--if he cared that much, he should have looked into alternates---including natural alternative medicine rehab centers, with Doctors of Integrative Medicine. They have great success with her issue. I personally know two. In her case---too late. I don't feel sorry for his feelings of guilt. When you plan to meddle in someone else's life, even to try to save them from themselves, be sure you have a success-documented, safer alternative. Often some of the ingredients missing in the troubled person's life are free--knowing someone truly cares, love and any assistance they'll accept, including simple things like being treated to dinner, bringing them healthy food, giving them a relaxing joy ride, taking them to a scenic spot for a walk, gifts of exercise and other healthy tapes, videos, cds, books. Just sit down and think, be thoughtful about what may be missing in their lives. I wouldn't talk to them about it. If they learn that you don't intrude, they may eventually talk to you. I've helped hundreds, maybe thousands in my life without being intrusive. If I offer, or give free info on their problem and receive no reply, I either never approach them again, or depending on the seriousness and other complications, might try two or three times. I know I've saved several lives, and not by intruding.
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