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Happy Holidays From the Lawrenceburg Indiana Police Department

US Politics & Gov't  (tags: Fourth Amendment, usa, police state, unaccountability )

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They shot up an apartment in a high density housing complex full of military grade tear gas. Then went in and vandalized the house from top to bottom. The wrong house and have left a woman and her two young children homeless. Watch the video. Phone!


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Past Member (0)
Monday December 24, 2007, 9:50 am

The Fourth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America says:

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probably cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Does anyone think there was a warrant specifying that this woman's laundry be searched and her children's toys be seized? Of course not. This is Bush's America and no warrants are necessary. No courts will hold these criminals responsible. The Supreme Court believes that the Constitution is just a g*ddamned piece of paper because Bush The Decider, the dictator they illegally installed by unconstitutionally nullifying the 2000 election, said so.

This is a police state run by thugs. It is totally corrupt. The police brutality that until recently was regularly inflicted upon people of color is now inflicted upon everyone and anyone at random. Unless police departments exercise a certain amount of unjustified police brutality, they cannot qualify for bountiful Homeland Security grants paid for by our tax dollars.

Will they come "by mistake" to your house next? Will it be you and your children made homeless by the fascist police state?

Congress will not impeach or act. They are the bureaucrats of the fascist police state and their loyalty is to the military-industrial complex. Even the few who vote against war are nothing but shills who throw their support to their party's warmonger nominees after the primaries in every presidential election year. It is the system that is corrupt, and it is totally corrupt from top to bottom. There is no accountability, there is no respect for law, and there is no freedom or democracy other than by accident, meaning that they just haven't gotten around to you yet. They will.

We must not be silent. We must not consent. Rise up!

Michele DiGiorgi (320)
Monday December 24, 2007, 10:16 am
Wow, that's really messed up Mark...can you imagine..Are we not save anywheres?...I thought home is our haven...What happened to our Human Rights as citizens?...
thanks Mark..this is noted, and scary too.

RC deWinter (418)
Monday December 24, 2007, 10:51 am

. (0)
Monday December 24, 2007, 11:51 am
Noted with outrage that this happened happen at all but then to refuse to take responsibility is not acceptable!
Thanks Mark and this police dept. will be hearing from me as well as the mayor and the governor of Indiana.

Michael W (72)
Monday December 24, 2007, 4:31 pm
Sometimes there are stories that are so outrageous in their nature that framing a comment which can adequately express the loathing and disgust that needs to be manifest is impossible. This is one of those. I would be willing to reverse the exchange rate (dollars to rand) if any of these cops if subjected to the same would feel such a search was justified on them.

Penelope P (222)
Monday December 24, 2007, 6:42 pm
Just doing my jog he said
It's a pity that the guy is dead
It's not me . It's the rules
He said
This sort of blunder is inevitable like the stuffed up executions -as long as people feel that the they are not responsible for what they do -The rules and the bureaucracy etc is.

Mark I would love to know where the information stuffed up in the first place wonder if it was someone over worked and underpaid (in the interests of efficiencey) ,doing more data entry than ever before on some brand new system- Having the right to break in kike that can make people callous iover time-That is the best argument for not having those rights given to law enforcers -just as the fact that we are all human and stuff up and make mistakes including the police and judiciary is the best reason for not having the death sentence.As regards the latter ;Did you know that 10% of people on death row in USA are thought to be entirely innocent?

Peace Monger (185)
Tuesday December 25, 2007, 1:03 am
Welcome to the "new" United States, one nation under martial law, where law enforcement can do as they please and has the right to consider you guilty before you can be judged by a jury of your peers.
*note with disgust Mark

Marian E (152)
Tuesday December 25, 2007, 3:30 am

It isn't just the police that wind up at the wrong houses. It's CPS caseworkers, Guardian Ad Litems, ad infinitum. It seems that any Govt. agency or court agent can go to the wrong home and cause misery for the occupants and then just walk away.

We (the public) are going to have to force them to make reparations and face repercussions when they do this kind of thing. (That would entail contacting your State Legislators.)

Thanks Mark.

Past Member (0)
Tuesday December 25, 2007, 11:18 am

If we had a democracy and a justice system, that police department would have pay for what they did out of their own personal time and money. They'd have to go there and remove every item from the apartment one by one and inventory it. Then they'd have to hire a licensed, certified decontamination team to come in and clean the whole place. Then they'd assign each item on the inventory to individual officers to replace with new ones. In cases where they couldn't find the exact same item of clothing or child's toy, they were be allowed to replace it with something similar but of better quality. And when they were done, they'd have to all sign an apology to be published in the local paper.

But we don't have a democracy or a justice system. Extreme public pressure and media coverage might shame them into doing a small part of what they should do, which is no more than they would insist be done if it had happened to them, and cannot even ensure that they don't continue to do similar things.

I don't know the cause in this particular event, but I do know for a fact that many times when the police arrest somebody, they tell them that they can get a better deal if they cooperate by naming somebody else, and many criminals who want the better deal but are afraid of naming other criminals who might find out, and who they might encounter later on in prison, just make up names or addresses out of whole cloth. Putting pressure on criminals to "cooperate" by naming names, is similar to torture in that the criminals will often try to tell the police anything they want to hear. The torture in Abu Ghraib, according to Jennifer Harbury, resulted in three different people confessing to being Osama bin Laden, and none of them looked anything like him at all. That's why warrants were required by the Constitution, back when we had a Constitution, and they had to be based on probable cause AND an oath or affirmation. The word of an informant alone should never be enough to bring about a police action. Had they simply observed the home and the family for a few days, they'd have known that their information was wrong.

It is also sad that we have lost the Magna Carta and reverted to the Divine Right of Kings, in the modern guise of "federal immunity." From the time of the Magna Carta until just recently, even kings could be held responsible for their actions. I never thought I'd be saying that the 1600s were the good old days, but we have definitely reversed any progress made since then.


Sandra M Z (114)
Tuesday December 25, 2007, 1:18 pm
noted, thanks Mark.

Michael W (72)
Tuesday December 25, 2007, 2:00 pm
There was no extreme public outcry when Jackson State occured or Kent State. I think Americans have been conditioned to believe stuff like well they must have been "guilty of something' or at least known of something. You really do give your police a huge degree of unaccountabilty except by peer review. Also, the Patriot Act andThe HGTA wants every American to be a cop. Watch your neighbors, ask there kids when they are playing with yours questions about the house etc. That really is the definition of a policy state. I can remember in the 50's when we were told the terrors of a communist police state - constant surveillance, no warrants, people disappearing without accountability ad inf. all things America has become or moving toward and before the "Cream Bush" cry goes up remember its the same now as it was at the end of 2006 except the HGTA was put on the table by Pelosi for a vote. Absolute power corrupts ___. and this is giving police absolute power.

Mary R (987)
Tuesday December 25, 2007, 6:30 pm
Anyone who thinks this is not a police state, is sadly mistaken!

Marty H (119)
Wednesday December 26, 2007, 12:48 am
Grrrr! Idiots!!! Noted and thanks Mark!

Pam F (221)
Wednesday December 26, 2007, 12:56 am
Noted - in disbelief!

Past Member (0)
Tuesday January 1, 2008, 12:13 am
Noted and disgusted.Here is another point of facism. That police department should replace, clean, apologize, find suitable temporary lodging for this woman and her children. Why should she be the one to clean it up. They made the mess. Can't they read numbers? This makes me furious!!!!!
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