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Fly
- 1435 days ago - mondoweiss.net
Much of the grim and murky circumstances of the Zionist ethnic cleansing of Palestinians in the late 1940s have gradually been exposed over time.



   

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fly b (26)
Sunday June 14, 2015, 5:14 pm
Israel’s coverup of the killing of the four little boys playing soccer, a whitewash aided and abetted by The New York Times, continues to fall apart.

The Israeli report gave the impression that the military made an effort to contact all witnesses to the killings on a Gaza beach during the Israeli invasion last July, and that Palestinians had declined to cooperate.

But the slaughter took place right in front of a hotel where many western journalists were staying. And as Dan Cohen writes, “no effort was made to contact journalists who witnessed the incident.” Peter Beaumont of the Guardian was one of the eyewitnesses. Beaumont writes today that the Israeli military made no effort to reach him or other witnesses who could have provided firsthand information.

The Israeli claims appear at odds in several details with what journalists were able to see at the time, Beaumont says, beginning with this Israeli assertion:


“From the factual findings collected by the investigators, it revealed that the incident took place in an area that had long been known as a compound belonging to Hamas’s Naval Police and Naval Force (including naval commandos), and which was utilized exclusively by militants.”

Beaumont disputes this:


The hut, however, was in plain sight of nearby hotels housing international journalists, none of whom described seeing militants in the area at the time of the attack…

The Israeli military also claimed that the alleged Navy “compound in question spans the length of the breakwater of the Gaza City seashore, closed off by a fence and clearly separated from the beach serving the civilian population.”

That wasn’t the case, Beaumont says.


The breakwater is both easily accessible from a side lane and also is located on one of the busiest parts of the public beach in Gaza port and accessible not only to the fishermen who use it, but to local Palestinians who come to sunbathe and swim within feet of it.

He cites an Israeli claim that a container inside the alleged compound “was used to store military supplies.” Beaumont says:


The container described in the Israeli finding also appeared to contain no military equipment.

As of now, the New York Times has not yet issued a follow-up report to yesterday’s stenographic article by Jodi Rudoren simply repeating what Israel military said as gospel without making any effort to get the other side. The Times has also never reported on the Breaking the Silence report on the Gaza invasion that documented attacks on civilians who happened to be in the vicinity of targets.

We await with interest the Times‘s followup on this tragedy.

We also note that 500 other children were killed during last summer’s attack, along with 1700 adults.
 

Henriette Matthijssen (154)
Sunday June 14, 2015, 8:02 pm
They are still at it to this day! Thanks Jess!
 

Evelyn B (63)
Monday June 15, 2015, 3:59 am
What is amazing is that they seem to think that their word is sufficient! It is like the report by "top level international military experts", paid for by an Israel Project fund (a fact stated at the bottom of the report) that is presented in the media as though it were an official UN report - finding that Israel displayed extremely high standards in Protective Edge ....

But there are recordings that went out immediately which do not confirm such (Israeli) official versions - and as a result, Israel's credibility slips a little further!

Thanks, Jess
 

Past Member (0)
Monday June 15, 2015, 6:36 am
Mondo Weiss is a known anti-Israel hate site, spreading lies and hate about Israel.

This site is frequently used by Islamist and Arab Nationalist propagandists to spread their dawah on the Internet.

Arab propaganda on Care 2 does not stop.
 

Glennis Whitney (393)
Monday June 15, 2015, 5:50 pm
Note. Deplorable yesterday and today. just never ending. Thank you for sharing Scooby.
 

Jaime Alves (52)
Monday June 15, 2015, 10:38 pm
Jess, innocent lives have been lost on both sides.
War is hell.
 

fly b (26)
Monday June 15, 2015, 10:50 pm
This was no war - it was an disgusting assault on a defenseless population, under siege, the same as last time.

Save the hasbara for someone else. Pitiful!

 

Jaime Alves (52)
Monday June 15, 2015, 11:33 pm
A defenceless people that are using missiles to target Israel and then Hamas hide behind woman and children, wow what great warriors they are, that's a joke, lol.
 

Evelyn B (63)
Tuesday June 16, 2015, 12:04 am
Jaime, "innocent lives have been lost on both sides. " is very true - somewhat disproportionately. These kids were not being used as "human shields", they were playing football. Just kids, playing. And the promised enquiry is a farce, not seeing out eye witnesses.

When an investigation fails to seek out a cross section of witnesses, & overlook eye witnesses, the credibility of the investigators is in question. We see it in discussions of police reports in the US - and sign petitions about such bias - so why swallow such one-sided reports because the State of Israel produces them?
 

Jaime Alves (52)
Tuesday June 16, 2015, 12:28 am
True Evelyn there is always two sides to a story, and then there is the neutral point of view.
There are problems all over the World, crimes against Humanity is a problem for all , how do we fix things is the question for us all.
So much suffering and injustices , how can we stop the hatred and find love and compassion for all humans is the question for our generation and future generations.
We need to forgive and love each other to save our beautiful planet Earth and all living creatures on it.
 

Carol R (11)
Tuesday June 16, 2015, 6:53 am
Thanks Jess.
 

Parsifal S (96)
Tuesday June 16, 2015, 8:15 am

Israel bars UN envoy from entering occupied Palestinian lands
Israel has blocked a United Nations envoy from visiting the occupied Palestinian territories.

The Israeli foreign ministry said the decision was made because the mandate is anti-Israeli.
This is the second time that Makarim Wibisono, the UN’s special rapporteur on human rights is denied entry to the occupied Palestinian lands.
Wibisono is working for the UN Human Rights Council which has been studying last year's war on Gaza.
On Sunday, Israel released its own report defending its actions during the Gaza war.
Tel Aviv called the offensive lawful and legitimate.
But the UN said Israel is responsible for the deadly bombing of several UN institutions where Palestinian civilians had taken shelter.
More than 2200 Palestinians were killed during the Israeli war on Gaza last summer.
Nearly 540 children were among the victims

 

Parsifal S (96)
Tuesday June 16, 2015, 8:20 am

Suzannah Mitchell aka Barbara D. aka Shaina et al. Hasbara Zionist back with a backup profile
 

TOM TREE (247)
Tuesday June 16, 2015, 9:37 am


UNBELIEVABLE !!
 

Evelyn B (63)
Tuesday June 16, 2015, 12:14 pm
Jaime - I'm not sure if it is possible to have a "neutral" view on the Israel-Palestine situation - when one tries to put a neutral perspective, the come-back pushes one into a defensive role ... and when one tries to state fairly aspects from both sides, again, one is slammed by "anti-Semitic" labels (or Islamist or whatever) because one hasn't taken a position of total endorsement of official Israeli government/ right wing/ pro-Zionist narrative.

The challenge is how to bring to the table a will to recognise wrongs on both sides, and a will to understand where narratives are coming from. And that includes recognition of wrongs as well as "rights".
 

Evelyn B (63)
Tuesday June 16, 2015, 12:17 pm
Thanks for that link to the report about the UN Envoy , Parsifal.
 

John De Avalon (36)
Wednesday June 17, 2015, 3:07 am
Jess: Just wondering why the photograph in the Guardian 'Witness to a shelling' article of the first "missile" strike on the "dilapidated fisherman's hut' - taken seconds after impact - does not tally with the Mondoweiss picture?
Compare the two - the standing west wall, the billowing smoke ...

Also, if it was a state of the art guided missile that hit the boys, on open ground, 1) Where is the crater? 2) Why were the boys not blown to pieces?

I'm not disputing the poor souls were killed, but the articles you've posted contradict each other. Explain please.
 

John De Avalon (36)
Wednesday June 17, 2015, 3:09 am
Whoever killed them, karma has their number ....

We need to stop both sides firing on and killing each other, and make peace.
 

Evelyn B (63)
Wednesday June 17, 2015, 4:15 am
John - how do you know there was no crater? The kids were still running away after the hut was hit, in the photo - and I see now film or photo of the beach afterwards. Perhaps you are making assumptions ? You don't know (a) what shells were used; (b) to what extent the injuries were due to shrapnel and resulting flying debris .... from the explosions ... especially the second. I've not read anywhere that the missile/shell directly hit any of them, but that the shelling caused their deaths is undeniable ... too many witnesses.

But Jess was not there at the beach, nor in the hotel. The witnesses should be asked, not Jess.
And the Israeli investigation did NOT ask the witnesses ...

Your last comment is less based on bias - I agree, karma has their number
And BOTH sides have to stop ..
 

John De Avalon (36)
Wednesday June 17, 2015, 6:36 am
Evelyn: We have all seen the impact of Israeli missiles on structures of concrete, brick and steel during the Gaza Conflict. They demolished them; ripped them asunder.

If it was an Israeli missile it would have left a crater on impact. Taking a photograph of any such crater is vital forensic evidence in establishing who fired the missile that killed those boys. In fact as Hamas do not have planes or heavy artillery, and their short range rockets do not have the same explosive capacity the Israeli weaponry has, a crater would have exposed the Israelis, got them bang to rights, no defence, no excuses.
Yet there seems to be no photographic evidence of this. I'm just curious why.

If you read the aforementioned 'Guardian' article, eye-witnesses say whoever was firing appeared to adjust their fire to deliberately 'target the fleeing children'. So we are looking at a direct hit.

This next bit is unclear, but the journalists lined up in the vicinity appeared to shout at gunners unknown to stop firing 'they are only children'.

And the 'dilapidated fisherman's hut' in the Guardian first strike photo, has walls standing and a roof and black smoke billowing. The Mondoweiss picture taken "seconds later" has the same structure, no walls, no roof, no smoke at all.
How do you explain that?

I resent the accusation of bias. Jess posted the Mondoweiss article and it was Mona who posted the Guardian one. Not Bob and Stan! The articles do not tally. I don't think its unreasonable to ask for an explanation and I'm sure I wasn't the only one who noticed it. Indeed, how could anyone not notice it????? You'd have to be blind not to see it
 

Evelyn B (63)
Wednesday June 17, 2015, 2:00 pm
John - you should ask the reporters, not Jess -
Write to the papers concerned -

All you can get here is suggestions. I don't know - neither do you - what "missiles" were used. We don't know when the photos were taken - immediately, or later, after the bedlam around the children - injured and dead - settled down. You didn't give any link at all to the Guardian article ... I googled it.

You also do not put forward your suggestion of why no journalist or other eye witness appears to have been interviewed in the "investigation" ... which would seem inadequate whether covering rocket damage in Siderot or the events on the beach. Would you consider an investigation of rockets on Siderot that was entirely based on interviews of Hamas leaders and militia? I wouldn't ....
 

John De Avalon (36)
Wednesday June 17, 2015, 4:40 pm
Evelyn: Yes Google 'Guardian Witness to a shelling: first-hand account of deadly strike on Gaza port' you'll find it.

You've not answered the questions
Why did a direct hit from a state of the art missile not destroy a dilapidated fisherman's hut? The Guardian picture clearly shows a large plume of black smoke billowing, but the roof and walls still up.
Why does the Mondoweiss picture, supposedly taken seconds later, show the walls and roof missing and no smoke at all?
Why is there no bomb crater?
Why were the boys not blown to pieces?
Who were the journalists shouting at, telling them to stop firing, 'they are only children'?
 

Evelyn B (63)
Thursday June 18, 2015, 12:06 am
John - please - read answers before repeating yourself.

I WAS NOT ON THE BEACH - ASK THE JOURNALISTS WHO WERE EYE WITNESSES

Who told you that the photos were seconds later?
How do you know what kind of missile was used ? There are many different kinds of missiles used by IDF - Obama's embarrassment last summer was over the fact that less precise US-made mortars were found to have been used in shelling the UNRWA school being used as a shelter..
I find it strange that you sound as though you are questioning if the strike even happened. Immediately after the event, Israel recognised that they had fired - and the report "justifies" by claiming that they were aiming at structures they believed to be housing Hamas military materials. Their denial concerns targetting the kids - not the fact of having shelled the beach area.
 

Stan B (123)
Thursday June 18, 2015, 1:57 am
Mondoweiss. Enough said.
 

John De Avalon (36)
Thursday June 18, 2015, 2:14 am
Evelyn: The eye-witness accounts tell us the blasts were about 30 seconds apart.

Evelyn, I'm not stupid. You're not stupid. This story does not add up.
 

John De Avalon (36)
Thursday June 18, 2015, 1:57 pm
And if it was two Israeli missiles, where are the missile casings/fragments?
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday June 18, 2015, 8:12 pm
Parsifal, I like the care you show for Palestinian Arabs, especially ones in the West Bank.

Why don't you show the same level of care about Palestinian Arabs living in Syria and in Jordan?

Palestine is not limited to the West Bank, as you know...

 

Evelyn B (63)
Friday June 19, 2015, 12:19 am
John - I repeat - ask people who were on the spot.

It doesn't appear as though even the Israeli investigators checked this out.

They failed to cover the on-the-spot part of the investigation. Including interviewing eye witnesses.
Which is the topic under discussion.

Nobody would be satisfied with investigations of Ferguson riots or Baltimore Freddie Gray riots that were done only in NY or Washington offices, mainly taking police statements, not visiting the sites and interviewing eye witnesses. So why is this perfectly adequate for an Israeli investigation?
 

John De Avalon (36)
Friday June 19, 2015, 10:35 am
I'm curious why Israel would do that too. Especially as there is not a shred of forensic evidence - no missile casing/fragments, no crater - to implicate them.
Eyewitness accounts heard no aircraft and saw no missiles. In fact they seemed to imply the firing was local.

And the Mondoweiss photo is fake. So obviously so.

The truth will come out no doubt.
 

John De Avalon (36)
Friday June 19, 2015, 4:11 pm
Indeed the truth will come out, because an Australian film crew had a camera running, by chance, and got the lot on film.
 
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