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Henry Kissinger: To Settle the Ukraine Crisis, Start at the End


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Angelika
- 1875 days ago - washingtonpost.com
Far too often the Ukrainian issue is posed as a showdown: whether Ukraine joins the East or the West. But if Ukraine is to survive and thrive, it must not be either side's outpost against the other- it should function as a bridge between them.



   

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Angelika R (143)
Thursday March 6, 2014, 10:54 am
These are some interesting and not at all unwise thoughts there by Kissinger. However, right now the paths taken point in another, mabye not so wise direction. I think the catch lies with is the fleet outside Sevastopol.
 

JL A (281)
Thursday March 6, 2014, 4:01 pm
A perspective that seems more promising in finding a peaceful solution than most of those that have been filling the news.
 

Angelika R (143)
Thursday March 6, 2014, 5:33 pm
Very true, Jl, while I am fully realising the name of Kissinger would turn off many from even reading the article, but, while not being a fan of him myself yet I found it quite worthy of posting,
 

Kit B (276)
Thursday March 6, 2014, 6:25 pm

Have you ever really listened to Kissinger? The man is an excellent salesman that has yet to say one word that had lasting meaning. We do not need to be saber rattling, nor responding to Putin with threats. I realize that Putin thinks he is challenging Stalin; but his insanity should be used to set our foreign policy agenda.
 

Fiona O (562)
Thursday March 6, 2014, 8:52 pm
Henry has always been overrated.
 

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Friday March 7, 2014, 1:31 am
From past experience I've learned that one should instinctively do the opposite of what this war ciminal "suggests". He should stand trial in Den Haag (together with a number of other public figures) rather than get paid to give his "opinion" - the world has suffered enough from the consequences of following them.


The US is since a long time involved in the Ukraine via its own people on the ground as well as via its henchmen (see below). But naturally one has always the option of burrying ones head in the sand ...

For further verification check out Globalresearch's article with link to the full JTA article: http://www.globalresearch.ca/ukraine-israeli-special-forces-unit-under-neo-nazi-command-involved-in-maidan-riots/5371725 - also check the various articles on GR website regarding Ukraine and the wider "interests" involved.

Quotes from the article:

"The leader of the “Blue Helmets of Maidan” is Delta “the nom de guerre of the commander of a Jewish-led militia force that participated in the Ukrainian revolution”. Delta is a Veteran of the notorious Givati infantry brigade, which was involved in numerous operations directed against Gaza including Operation Cast Lead in 2008-2009.

The Givati brigade was responsible for the massacres in the Tel el-Hawa neighborhood of Gaza. Delta, the leader of the EuroMaidan IDF unit acknowledges that he acquired his urban combat skills in the Shu’alei Shimshon reconnaissance battalion of the Givati brigade.

According to the JTA report, Delta was in command of a force of 40 men and women including several former IDF veterans. In the EuroMaidan, Delta was routinely applying his skills of urban warfare which he had used against the Palestinians in Gaza.

The Maidan “Street fighting unit” under Delta’s command was involved in confronting government forces. It is unclear from the reports whether the EuroMaidan combat unit was in liaison with IDF command headquarters in Israel:

The Blue Helmets comprise 35 men and women who are not Jewish, and who are led by five ex-IDF soldiers, says Delta, an Orthodox Jew in his late 30s" End of quote

Now this whole issue sounds so terribly familiar …
 

Ben O (135)
Friday March 7, 2014, 7:16 am
Right Kit; -"Have you ever really listened to Kissinger?" -No, I have not, and I never will!
 

Angelika R (143)
Friday March 7, 2014, 10:45 am
I admit i posted this to encourage debate and, hopefully get some responses of the kind Eleonora posted above, so to lead you to some of that which I also posted in other stories. There are many links given, like in my story "Neocons and the Ukraine Coup ", which lead to similar and the same findings as Eleonora's posts do.
So I thank her for her info!
The fact alone, that Miss Nudelmann (Victoria Nuland) was involved should have thrown enough hints i thought.
 

Gary L (138)
Friday March 7, 2014, 12:25 pm
is this the same Kissinger that along with the CIA helped overthrow the duly elected government of Chile? he is a war criminal and no platform given to him unless there's a trap door and a noose around his neck
 

Robert K (31)
Friday March 7, 2014, 12:30 pm
Taking advice from Kissinger is like playing Russian Roulette with one unloaded cylinder.
 

Jamie Clemons (282)
Friday March 7, 2014, 12:52 pm
The US paid Natzi organizers to start riots. Yes they paid them to riot. A CIA man was caught there The US was a prime financier of this classic coup. The legitimate elected head of the Ukraine asked for Russia to send in troops. Russia has long standing ties with the region that is right along their border. Crimea has their largest naval base and best access to the black sea. Do you think that is Germany which is much farther away from us than the Ukraine is to Russia suddenly decided they were going to revolt and turn communist that we would not be in there in a heart beat with troops and guns and protect our interest and our military bases? Of course we would. It is sheer folly to think that Russia would not do the same regardless of wether or not Putin is a good man he is not a fool and is not willingly going to give up their largest naval base in the region.
 

Past Member (0)
Friday March 7, 2014, 12:53 pm
Henry the international criminal!
 

Angelika R (143)
Friday March 7, 2014, 1:07 pm
While I agree with all voices above as to the person of Kissinger, these suggestions here, more like a hypothetical wishful thinking, do make sense to me and appear to voice exactly what leaders right now are actually claiming they also want, only their actions are not matching their words. The assessment he makes about Crimea "But it should be possible to put Crimea’s relationship to Ukraine on a less fraught basis. To that end, Russia would recognize Ukraine’s sovereignty over Crimea." does not look like the reality we have at this moment.
 

Birgit W (160)
Friday March 7, 2014, 1:16 pm
Thanks for sharing.
 

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Friday March 7, 2014, 1:54 pm
Angelika - just a quick one (I hope to be back later). Let's not forget that the Crimean Parlament has VOTED that it wants to be part of Russia AGAIN like it used to be. Let's also not forget that the President was democratically elected - the same one which now was toppled by the West. Yes, let's call a spade a spade. He was toppled by the West (fill in whoever you want ;-) ...).

Now compare this to the "uproar" when the Egyptians kicked out Mursi last year ... remember the outcry which still goes on because the USA and its poodles didn't get what they worked and paid for in Egypt? A firmly established extremist regime which was ready, willing and able to deliver the various goods to Israel and to the USA. Also remember the tantrum they threw when they didn't get their way to bomb Syria to smithereens? Now it's the Ukraine. Does nobody connect the dots? We said 9 weeks ago, that what's going to happen in the Ukraine will be a blueprint for us in this region. We'll see ...

Where is the outcry from the West about the Ukranian President being kicked out? Why is the will of the Crimean Parliament (remember they enjoy "autonomy") not respected? Democracy anyone???

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jan b (5)
Friday March 7, 2014, 2:36 pm
Someone asked me why the Ukraine-Russia problem is our's and I responded that I really don't know why. We have no dog in that hunt.

But when it comes to using drones to take out terrorist who have agendas to do us harm.....it's better than sacrificing more of our young to do the same job. We gave billions to Pakistan to help us find terrorist.....and who found OBL ....under Pakistan's nose? When we used planes to take out our enemy did people object ....so why not drones .....do we have to experience another 911 .....do we need another crisis in order to okay pre-emptive strikes.
 

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Friday March 7, 2014, 2:49 pm
A very interesting take by Uri Avnery (founder of Gush Shalom, the Israeli Peace Bloc) on the Ukraine and how this was "Putin's gift to Netanyahu":

http://zope.gush-shalom.org/home/en/channels/avnery/1394214313/ "God bless Putin"

If one knows that Israel has doubled the units of settlement buildings in 2013 as compared to 2012 then one can understand where Uri is coming from.

Polit-Israel is just one of the many profiteurs.
 

Angelika R (143)
Friday March 7, 2014, 3:11 pm
Eleonora, have you NOT noticed that I HAD ALREADY posted that very petition and it is on front page?
Thanks anyway for mentioning it here again! Also thx for hinting/ pointing to Uri of whom I guess/hope most will be quite aware as well. I used to follow all his blogs back from the Lebanon war on but, admittedly have neglected my habit in recent times. Need to pick up again.
 

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Friday March 7, 2014, 3:17 pm
Here's some more insight at who's who in the Ukraine:

“Democratization” and Anti-Semitism in Ukraine: When Neo-Nazi Symbols become “The New Normal”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/democratization-and-anti-semitism-in-ukraine-neo-nazi-symbols-become-the-new-normal/5371919

I highly recommend to read the article and have a look at those people in the various pictures as well as the various flags/symbols displayed in the Ukranian parliament in late Dec. 2013.

Here are some exerpts:

“Numerous reports have exposed the links between the U.S. government and Svoboda [ultra-nationalist], and several pictures show U.S. and European authorities with the controversial Svoboda leader Oleh Tyahnybok.”



“According to Per Anders Rudling, a leading academic expert on European neo-fascism, the self-described “socialist nationalist” Mykhalchyshyn is the main link between Svoboda’s official wing and neo-Nazi militias like Right Sector. (Max Blumenthal, Is the US backing Neo-Nazis in Ukraine?, Alternet, February 25, 2014)”



“The ADL doesn’t address the fact that former Israeli soldiers fought alongside with known neo-Nazi militants who now claim to reject antisemitism. This sends the paradoxical message that neo-Nazism is somehow acceptable. It is worth noting that the US media as well as the ADL refrain from using the terms “neo-Nazi” , neo-fascist and “extremist”. Instead of condemning this abnormal alliance, the ADL sees a glimmer of hope in the “promises of Right Sector and Spilna Sprava”, groups which the Israeli media itself qualified as “fascist and neo-Nazi”.

Along with similar fascist and neo-Nazi groups such as Spilna Sprava (Common Cause) and Afgantsy (a coalition of veterans from the Soviet war in Afghanistan), Pravy Sektor has played a key role both in seizing government buildings and providing security for the sprawling protest camps against riot police. (Ari Soffer, Ukraine: Neo-Nazi Militia Leader Threatens ‘Civil War’, Arutz Sheva, February 5, 2014)

Israel’s Haaretz also reported that members of Svoboda and Pravy Sektor, were “flying flags with neo-Nazi symbols” and were “distributing freshly translated editions of Mein Kampf and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion in Independence Square.” (Anshel Pfeffer, The new dilemma for Jews in Ukraine, February 25, 2014)

The Anti-Defamation League should not only firmly condemn the presence of all the fascist and neo-Nazi groups in the post-coup Ukrainian government, but also denounce the countries which support them morally and/or financially, like the U.S., Canada, and member countries of the European Union.



“Today, former Israeli soldiers are fighting with Svoboda allies, the ADL is not “alarmed” and Avigdor Lieberman has not condemned this unholy alliance.”



“What kind of example are we talking about exactly? Alliance with neo-Nazi groups is ok as long as they’re not anti-Semitic?

The presence of former Israeli soldiers in the Maidan protests along with neo-Nazi militias and the attitude of the ADL and Israeli officials in this matter raise questions about what the Zionist lobby and Israel might possibly gain from the coup which put in power, among others, Igor Kolomoysky, a Ukrainian-Israeli who was appointed governor of Dnepropetrovsk, Ukraine’s vital business and political center.

The newly-appointed Dnepropetrovsk governor is Igor Kolomoysky, Ukraine’s third-wealthiest man, with an estimated fortune of $2.4 billion. He co-owns the informal commercial group Privat, which includes Ukraine’s largest bank Privatbank, which Kolomoysky heads, as well as assets in the oil, ferroalloys and food industries, agriculture and transport.”



“Kolomoysky also owns the Jewish-interest news channel Jewish News One and heads the European Council of Jewish Communities which describes itself as the “the pan-European umbrella body for Jewish communities and organizations across the continent, representing Jewish community life across West, Central and Eastern Europe covering around 40 countries.”

There is hardly any mention of the presence of neo-Nazi personalities in the new government on Jewish News One.

It is also interesting to note that in a country struggling with an important national debt, Mr. Kolomoysky’s PrivatBank was the Ukrainian champion of offshoring in 2012. Economic Pravda reported in July 2012:

“Ukraine which is struggling from poverty of the majority of its population is able to make banking transfers to Cyprus and British Virgin Islands of billions of US dollars in two month period. The question is who does those transfers and what are the destinations? …

The first place is taken by the biggest Ukrainian bank- PrivatBank. The result of the entity which is owned by Ihor Kolomoiskiy and Hennadiy Boholoubov is almost fantastic.

For the first two month of 2012 the PrivatBank has transferred to the offshores 3 billion 863 million US dollars.” (Treasure Islands, Economic Pravda, July 13,2012)”
 

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Friday March 7, 2014, 3:22 pm
Angelika - nope ... I obviously didn't otherwise I wouldn't have posted it (again) ;-). I just fell on your article by accident searching for something about my "friend" Kissinger. Coincidence.

But as the German saying goes: "doppelt gemoppelt haelt besser".

Stay safe!
 

Roger G (148)
Friday March 7, 2014, 3:55 pm
noted, thanks
 

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Friday March 7, 2014, 4:22 pm
Angelika, you mentioned Victoria Nuland; funny how “Nudelman” transformed into Nuland ;-)!

She has a … lovely … husband called Robert Kagan, who was (among other things) the co-founder and director of PNAC – The Project for the New American Century. His partner was William “Bill” Kristol, a hard-core Zionist and neocon. PNAC is now non-operable but what’s remaining is the “Weekly Standard” published by Bill Kristol.

To understand what PNAC’s intent was have a look who was also on the list of “honorable” PNAC signatories which read like a “Who’s Who” of war criminals, hard-core Zionists and neocons (often they’re all in one) like e.g.:

(Original Signatories) Elliott Abrams, Jeb Bush, Dick Cheney, Eliot A. Cohen, Steve Forbes, Aaron Friedberg, Francis Fukuyama, Frank Gaffney, Fred C. Ikle, Donald Kagan (brother-in-law of Nuland), Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Norman Podhoretz, Stephen P. Rosen, Henry S. Rowen, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz.

(Additional Signatories) Morton Abramowitz, Madeleine K. Albright, Uzi Arad, Richard L. Armitage, Robert L. Bernstein, John Bolton, Mark Brzezinski, Lee Feinstein, Aaron Friedberg, Richard C. Holbrooke, Martin S. Indyk, Jeane J. Kirkpatrick, Charles Krauthammer, Sen. John McCain, Richard Perle, Daniel Pipes, Dennis Ross, Sen. Charles Schumer, James Steinberg, Dov Zakheim, Robert B. Zoellick ... and it goes on and on.

PNAC has not gone away – it just has re-grouped.

Some of these folks appear also in Gatestone Institute like Bolton and Kristol which is very prolific in spreading hate, incitement and disinformation. Does it come as a surprise that this Institute carries a lot of articles and links connecting to Jihad Watch (R. Spencer) and to BNI? I don’t think so.

Throw in as a décor Condoleeza Rice’s speech in Tel Aviv in 2007 where she publicly presented the “New Middle East” – some also labeled it “The Greater Middle East” and the the circle is almost closed.

Don’t be mislead by the name “New Middle East” – by no means is it restricted only to the Middle East.

We should never forget that breaking up countries into small(er) entities makes the work of the few remaining strong countries i.e. controlling and oppressing while milking their resources so much easier and/or marginalises them.

As we've seen in Irak, Libya (although not officially), Sudan, Egypt was planned and started already under Mursi, Syria was planned (and is by no means finished) and so on.

Meantime China is thinking aloud if they should switch the denomination of their reserve currency (which would mean that the US is bankrupt tomorrow) … while Obama is going to Saudi as they are financing the arms deals from Russia to Egypt …

To me it seems to be a veritable and hot mess that’s cooking – what I don’t like is that I sit in the inner circle of this pressure pot too.

Stay safe!
 

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Friday March 7, 2014, 4:31 pm
To Janice B. - read again the many articles and you'll see the many "dogs" the US has in there.

As for the drone strikes - there is still something called "due process" and the legal right of the defendant to be heard! After all the US is always portraying itself as the one upholding the laws - good joke, eh? - ... bringing democracy (although on the wings of a B52 but these are details ...) ... and so on.

BUT if drone strikes become suddenly legal not only for the US and Israel ... then we best start making a waiting list because there are many countries which have bones to pick with some US and IL officials. After all - they should be having a shot at it too for fairness ... no??
 

Angelika R (143)
Friday March 7, 2014, 4:42 pm
Thanks again Eleonora for breaking it down here for the uninformed!
Yes, it is more than unfortunte you being where you are
Janice may start perhaps with getting some information about 911 inside job...and yes, if the US keeps up with drone strikes at random, killing civilians, you WILL have another revenge disaster I'm afraid.
 

Past Member (0)
Friday March 7, 2014, 5:49 pm
Kissinger, there IS NO room for morality in POPULATION REDUCTION..clear.? Involuntary euthanisation at age 54..clear ? Fascists..racists, psychotics, the wests' best guess..:) My govt would never hurt me...ahahahahahahah...ok doky..you been warned long enough..If the NWO don't kill ya someone else will :0)
The Ringer..remember..looks like a duck, walks like a duck..buit it aint a duck..
what is it..The Govt United states of America global..hah.,dems and rep gop..smoke and mirrors..they are posers..totally Bilderbuggered into selling out America..and inhiding..:) in the senate..:) congress, whitehouse..across the land the pinkos are at it again..:)
 

Colleen L (3)
Friday March 7, 2014, 8:23 pm
I have to admit it's a real mess. Wish I could wave a magical wand and sprinkle peace all over to solve it. Thanks Angelika
 
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