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"..But, Don't We Have to Do Something About ISIS?"


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Angelika
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The most frequently asked question I'm hearing, including among people who have been active in opposing U.S. wars, is "but, don't we have to do something about ISIS?" Yes, "we" do. We -people living in this country- do have to send a loud message >>



   

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Angelika R (143)
Thursday September 25, 2014, 2:20 pm
If by “we,” you mean the U.S. government and its military, NO. The U.S. military cannot do anything to stop the violence of ISIS. It can only continue creating the conditions on which it grows: 9/11's all over the region.
 

Angelika R (143)
Thursday September 25, 2014, 2:27 pm
Please read this, including the links, spread the message if possible, thanks.

I'll add this from Glen Greenwald (https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/09/23/nobel-peace-prize-fact-day-syria-7th-country-bombed-obama/) :

Syria becomes the 7th predominantly Muslim country bombed by 2009 Nobel Peace Laureate Barack Obama—after Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Libya and Iraq.

The utter lack of interest in what possible legal authority Obama has to bomb Syria is telling indeed: Empires bomb who they want, when they want, for whatever reason (indeed, recall that Obama bombed Libya even after Congress explicitly voted against authorization to use force, and very few people seemed to mind that abject act of lawlessness; constitutional constraints are not for warriors and emperors).

It was just over a year ago that Obama officials were insisting that bombing and attacking Assad was a moral and strategic imperative. Instead, Obama is now bombing Assad’s enemies while politely informing his regime of its targets in advance. It seems irrelevant on whom the U.S. wages war; what matters it that it be at war, always and forever.
 

jan b (5)
Thursday September 25, 2014, 3:04 pm

ISIL recently began producing recruiting materials in both English and German that U.S. intelligence analysts say is a sign they are targeting western jihadists for recruitment.......... -a store selling its merchandise in Istanbul shows the extent of the militant group’s appeal. The owner claims “I am responding to a market demand. This is Islamic clothing. What else can I say?”


Not an excuse for doing evil but the reason ISIS obviously turned to evil. The story of their lives, ancient religious ideology, domestic abuse allowed by law in their homes, poverty, cruelty, degradation of women as lesser human, poor education........ then you begin to understand the power of this kind of oppression that made them angry and then dangerous.









 

Angelika R (143)
Thursday September 25, 2014, 3:44 pm
US intelligence say a lot of things...-some of them rubbish as well. That also goes for the conflicting reports about how many Americans are currently in Syria as fighters with ISIL, or for Assad. - 12-? 20-30? or 100?

Other reports say no group by the name of "Khorasan" was targeted recently, that is completely fake, the US strikes Tuesday were on positions of the Al-Nusra front, and it were al-Nusra fighters who were killed.
(Rami Abdel Rahman, director of the Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.,> http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-25/khorasans-fake-kardashians)
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday September 25, 2014, 3:58 pm
So what's the plan exactly?? These savages are relentless. Thanks Angelika
 

Justin Vale (13)
Thursday September 25, 2014, 4:03 pm
what are you guys talking about?
no respect for women. abuse in the home. conditions that created isis.
what?
not only is isis loaded with central european and german chicks. but the black widows are in mosul with them. and trust me, when the black widows are around you're gonna have respect for women.
isis is a phenomena, it exist but the explanations for why are in doubt. the perfect explanation of phenomena.
there are too many links between isis and the zionist' for us not to take them seriously. what flipped a lot of switches was the destruction of the peshmerga by just a few hundred secondary isis fighters. they took a town defended by almost 50,000 peshmerga, revolutionary guards and iraqi soldiers by attacking with only 800 fighters. they can't be stopped. not by middle eastern fighters anyway. and if the beast has a zionist motherboard where is it gonna stop? these guys are capable of reaching the indian ocean, and then heading east across africa to the atlantic. in all of africa and the middle east only israel and the boko can stop isis. there aren't any good armies there. it has to be us. and we're gonna have to put boots on the ground. and we have to do it quick b4 they figure out a way to use the billions they are sitting on to strike back at us.
baghdadi, the chechens, the black widows are in mosul. mosul is attracting monsters by the minute. we have to do something. they gotta be stopped.
 

Justin Vale (13)
Thursday September 25, 2014, 4:08 pm
but al nusra is isis now. the moment baghdadi reached out to the chechen brigade al-nusra became part of the deal. no way the chechen brigade join ranks with isis without looking out for the nusra front. both those groups play a lot of video games online together. and i mean a lot. some intelligence people think they use the games to send signals to each other.
the nusra front is a target now and so is the chechen brigade.
 

Justin Vale (13)
Thursday September 25, 2014, 4:19 pm
b4 you slam me again give this site a little look. these guys are dangerous.
http://www.chechensinsyria.com/
 

Rose Becke (141)
Thursday September 25, 2014, 6:58 pm
It is war
 

Evelyn B (63)
Thursday September 25, 2014, 11:43 pm
I have a nasty feeling that ISIS is expecting, and counting on, our screaming & saying "We must act - attack them". Because ISIS can then pick up more supporters from people who see "Shaitan Amerika" & the non-Muslim world, attacking the Muslims, attacking Islam. Islamophobia provides the best support to extremists like ISIS, because they polarise positions.
 

Angelika R (143)
Friday September 26, 2014, 2:59 am
Evelyn, those screams have already been out there, loud enough and coupled with action..and so have the responses from IS/IL.. we may not have to wait another 2 weeks to witness victim No 5 to get beheaded...

Justin's link is interesting, in so far as it links the chechens to be assisting the Ukrainian army fighting the Eastern resistance.(what some call "Russians") - but that's yet another subject, although connected.
 

Angelika R (143)
Friday September 26, 2014, 4:11 am
I just wish the EU officials involved in dealing with the issue could coordinate better and faster their strategies to counteract IS/IL's propaganda videos. These are non-lethal actions that i favor of course, to undermine recruiting and avoiding civilian casualties, which there have been already from airstrikes.
 

Angelika R (143)
Friday September 26, 2014, 5:22 am
As the first reports emerge-and certainly more to follow!- of CIVILIAN residential areas hit and civilians KILLED, (like in Gaza), that were far off from any military facility, people definitely need to rethink their approval of this military operation by the US led coalition. -ask yourselves if you really want your tax $$ financing years to come of wide spread war on end !?!

Once again, the world got too easily blinded by the gruesome videos put out, which was its purpose in order to get approval of military action. ("WMD" anyone?) Let's not forget these videos were launched to YouTube by SITE which is run by an Israeli . Not claiming this HAS to mean anything, but it could...
 

Angelika R (143)
Friday September 26, 2014, 6:22 am
No comments :( why?

I think i will also post here the message that IS/IL recently aired, only the part addressing president Obama (the "mule of the jews"), as an add to the image with this post, all the rest, quite long, anyone can read online. (https://ia601400.us.archive.org/34/items/mir225/English_Translation.pdf)
 

Angelika R (143)
Friday September 26, 2014, 6:34 am
Excerpt from ISIS message:

And O Obama, O mule of the jews . You are vile. You are vile. You are vile.And you will be disappointed, Obama. Is this all you were capable of doing in this campaign of yours? Is this how far America has reached of incapacity and weakness? Are America and all its allies from amongst the crusaders and atheists unable to come down to the ground? Have you not realized O crusaders –that proxy wars have not availed you nor will they ever avail you? Have you not realized, O mule of the jews, that the battle cannot be decided from the air at all? Or do you think that you are smarter than Bush, your obeyed fool, when he brought the armies of the cross and placed them under the fire of the mujahidin on the ground? No, you are more foolish than him.
 

fly bird (26)
Friday September 26, 2014, 7:17 am
Important post, ty Anglelika.
 

Abo r (107)
Friday September 26, 2014, 11:48 am
Noted thanks Angelika , it is very important subject.
Pres. Obama awarded the PEACE priz for being the WAR man as days proved .
I beleive the Peace priz to be withdrawn and to be given WAR PRIZ If preasent ...He plays 2 faces if not 3 ones .. .
Is he fighting ISiS ??? or wants the petrol.???
The Question is who created Isis and Alqaeda????? and why??/
 

Lois Jordan (63)
Friday September 26, 2014, 1:03 pm
Noted. Many thanks for posting, Angelika. I agree 100% with the article, and have been receiving mailings from "The World Can't Wait" for years. This region is in so much chaos, that few articles even bring up the Saudi Wahhabis and their influence, which makes this situation even more complex. No, you can't beat them with bullets; and bombing them just makes them grow. Fearmongering by our Corporate media has become rote in the U.S. and has served them well. Even many who are against these wars have turned fearful and willing to lash out at anything that moves. Syria was, if I recall, the only secular state in the region.....and The Powers That Be are hellbent on changing that.
 

Angelika R (143)
Friday September 26, 2014, 1:08 pm
Thx Lois, very true. I think i should throw in here as I did on other threads this link for better explanation of the complexities of this proxy wars > Professor As’ad AbuKhalil’s explanation
 

Terry H (15)
Friday September 26, 2014, 1:22 pm
Let the wildfire burn out, don't fan the flames or provide fuel.

Yes this is a cartoon but it makes it's point very well.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cartoon/2014/sep/24/first-dog-terrorism
 

Angelika R (143)
Friday September 26, 2014, 1:52 pm
Thx Terry, too good not to share! :) Woof,woof ^^
 

jan b (5)
Friday September 26, 2014, 2:47 pm
Angelika---the jews are not our enemies---- And Obama and the jews are not responsible for the actions of the Islamic barbarous monsters.

So, here's a list of the major items you need to nix quickly in Boycoting the JEWS you blame for all that is wrong. .

Step 1. Remove all Intel Pentium and Celeron computer processor chips from personal computers (desktops, laptops and notebooks) as these were either developed or manufactured in Israel.

Note that the revolutionary new Ivy Bridge processor will be manufactured in Israel. Any computers running the Windows XT operating system must be turned off immediately as this was developed in Israel. All current Microsoft operating systems are not to be used as Microsoft is heavily reliant on its Israel R&D centre.

Step 2. Any computers that still work need to have their anti-virus software and personal firewalls removed as this technology originated in Israel. The organisation’s firewall will also need to be switched off. Staff should no longer open external emails as most of these will be infected with viruses. No outgoing emails can be sent. The algorithm (code) that’s used today for sending e-mails, was made by an Israeli who worked at the Ben-Gurion University in Be’er-Sheva in 1980.

Step 3. Discard all mobile phones, as this technology was developed in Israel, where the first mobile phones were manufactured. Mobile chip technology from a single Israeli company has now been installed in over 100 million devices. Only top-level staff may retain mobile phones for emergency situations. However the use of SMS (Texting) is expressly forbidden as this facility was developed in Israel. No 4G devices can be used, as the chipset is Israeli.

Step 4. Turn off your voice-mail service and delete any recorded messages. Israeli companies invented the voice-mail system. If someone you do not know answers your phone-call, then hang up. Israeli call-centres and call-centre technology is in widespread operation in the UK.

Step 5. Before accepting any printed material, check that the supplier has not used the Israeli device that might have saved up to 50% of the ink used.

Step 6. At home, do not use Facebook as many in-built and add-on applications are Israeli-developed. Do not watch videos on the Internet as the platform used to upload them may be from AOL and hence from an Israeli company. Do not use the Internet to search for answers to your questions as this may involve use of an Israeli-developed search engine. Better to remain unenlightened.

Step 7. On your TV or home entertainment centre, do not use Video On Demand (VOD) to watch movies as you may inadvertently see an advert displayed using Israeli software. Do not purchase any games devices as these are likely to use Israeli technology.

Step 8. Do not read books using an e-book as this may contain Israeli technology. Do not use data storage as it may have been developed at Israel’s storage technology R&D center.

Step 9. Do not buy an electric car as it is likely to be powered with an Israeli battery or use Israeli developed charging mats. Continue to sit in traffic knowing that you are polluting the environment and financing oil-rich despotic regimes.

Part Two – Health

Destroy all personal medication. Israel’s Teva Pharmaceuticals, the largest generic drugs company in the world, will have manufactured many of your medicines. Staff with the following illnesses will need to take specific precautions.

This means you’ll need to dump any and all medication or treatments for Cancer, AIDS and HIV, Diabetes, Multiple Sclerosis, Parkinson’s, Epilepsy, Liver disease, Emphysema, and Myeloma. You shouldn’t undergo surgeries that require a surgical laser, heart stents, or use any method of treatment which utilizes Israeli patented methods. I hope you’re still able to find a hospital that doesn’t use any of those.

You’ll also need to dispose of any catheters, steroid creams and non-steroid alternatives to allergies, dyslexic reading systems, or artificial hearts. Most antibiotics will need to be removed from your cabinet as well.

Reject all products from the USA. Analysis conducted in a typical US state shows that Israeli innovations were responsible for $2.4 billion in direct revenue to that state’s economy in 2009 and generated nearly 6,000 jobs.

In 2005, Israel gave Gaza to the Palestinians. Israel gave up every inch of the land, uprooting thousands of settlers and relinquishing strategically vital territory. Rather than getting peace in return, Israel got terror: Hamas control of Gaza, Qassam rockets raining down on southern Israel, and the kidnapping of Gilad Shalit. The Gaza experience proves that "land for peace" doesn't work.


 

Angelika R (143)
Friday September 26, 2014, 3:00 pm
jan b. - correct, the jews are not our enemies and nobody , least myself!- said that.
The rest of your rubbish has been posted before..no need to repeat. I do not wish to have any discussion with you on that, period.
 

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Friday September 26, 2014, 3:11 pm

Thanks Angelika - doesn't this say it all? "“This is a vision of the world in which might makes right, a world in which one nation’s borders can be redrawn by another.”

Doesn't Israel act in exactly that way since before it became officially a state? America does the very same except that it doesn't actually annex land but puts their puppets in place. See Afghanistan, Iraq, Egypt (under Mubarak and Morsi - Sissi we're still to find out), Libya before it went out of hand (or so it seems) and so on and so forth.

Syria was to be bombed a while ago (remember the "gas attacks" which by hook and by crook had to be done by the government although the reports said different?) and now the MIC of the US got its way anyway through the back door.

I mean ... how much sense is there to bomb Syria (with a considerable number of oil facilities targeted) if ISIS is now mainly operative in Iraq? Yes, I know, we shouldn't think too much nor ask too many questions ... but until I find the button to switch off my brain ...

How did Obama say: "We must declare war on war so the outcome will be peace upon peace". What about practicing what he preaches and stop the continuous aggression by the US on everyone they or their ally doesn't like, need the resources of, their land, their aquifers or whatever else comes to their minds?

If the continuous war stops ... that'll be the end of the US, its ally and its puppets. Who in the right frame of mind (from the US viewpoint) would allow this to happen? It's coming anyway but why should they facilitate it?

Al Qaida, ISIS, Boko Idiots, Muslim Brotherhood et al. ... the perfect "little white ghost" to scare gullible folks with. To make it stick properly - well what's a bit blood between friends? It's just the people who pay the price - no harm done!

Sorry got to stop here - my stomach turns ...
 

M B (62)
Friday September 26, 2014, 3:20 pm
Thanks Angie for this important post.
 

Angelika R (143)
Friday September 26, 2014, 3:29 pm
Sorry Eleonora, get better soon! I know what you mean^^ - here's a hint when you can't switch off your brain: try watching/reading MSM for a change ;)
 

Angelika R (143)
Friday September 26, 2014, 3:51 pm
Flash back:
Sept 2013 in St Peterburg right after the G20 summit-

“I was elected to end wars, not start them,” he said. “I spent the last four-and-a-half years doing everything I can to reduce our reliance on military power as a means of meeting our international obligations and protecting the American people. But what I also know is that there are times when we have to make hard choice if we’re going to stand up for the things we care about. I believe this is one of those times.”

In blunt terms, the president also cast himself as a man who seeks peace but has been thrust into the position of involving the U.S. into another Middle East conflict.
Mr. Obama spent much of the G-20 gathering of industrial and leading developing nations trying to rally support for action in Syria, but efforts to build a grand international coalition have failed. ( notes the Washington Times)





 

S J (124)
Friday September 26, 2014, 8:02 pm
I think first let change it's name since it's not true Islam nor a state. why honour a coward killing unarm civilians. I love the French idea though.

thank you Angelika
 

Bruce C D (89)
Friday September 26, 2014, 10:06 pm
A good analysis can be found at this Kos article:
 

Bruce C D (89)
Friday September 26, 2014, 10:12 pm
Well, that didn't work for some reason, so let's try again.

A good analysis can be found at this Kos article:
War on ISIS Delusions

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/09/23/1331811/-War-on-ISIS-Delusions

Russell Brand delivers much-needed perspective with a light touch in this segment of "Trews:"

>a href="http://stopwar.org.uk/news/russell-brand-will-obama-s-bombs-stop-the-isis-beheadings">Will Obama's Bombs Stop Isis Beheadings?

http://stopwar.org.uk/news/russell-brand-will-obama-s-bombs-stop-the-isis-beheadings
 

Angelika R (143)
Saturday September 27, 2014, 5:51 am
Thanks for all your comments, and that extra link from Bruce! Good account as well and interesting, Cambodia, huh, well, fits, as pretty much like the Kmer Rouge.
Yes, there are numerous good articles out on this, hard if not impossible to catch them all.
The main reason I chose to post this one is because of the call to ACTION and I asked above to check the links within. a massive public protest may be the only way to prevent this from escalating, if not stop it.

Once again:
Protests opposing the U.S. bombing of Syria
List of nationwide actions

check the list please.
 

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Saturday September 27, 2014, 6:06 am
Are you serious Angelika??? Would I do that I would definitely be verrrrry sick!!! LOL ... but thanks for the wishes anyway!

You may also want to check out:

The Islamic State “Big Lie”

The real reason we are bombing Syria

Hours Before Strikes
 

Angelika R (143)
Saturday September 27, 2014, 6:15 am
Saw them already thx Eleonora! ( I don't think you misunderstood me ;) ) sorry my star bank closed for most of you ://
 

Maria Teresa Schollhorn (42)
Saturday September 27, 2014, 6:17 am
Thanks for this great article Angelika.
 

Sheryl G (359)
Monday September 29, 2014, 9:16 am
Noted earlier....sorry for delay on comment.....dealing with family issues and my loss of an Aunt. Am a bit behind.

Firstly, great selection of photo of our Nobel Peace Prize President.

I guess there is no Institution that hasn't sold out........When I think of all those who have truly stood up for peace, all the nameless ones......and the more famous ones........

well it wasn't that the prize had to go there for lack of choices.

Even further down from this article, I read of the young man, Jacob David George, who became another one of our youth, the 22 a day, who has served this Country, now taking their own life.

Send our youth, before they might "know" something, to the ongoing misadventures that keep piling up. Send our youth to destroy and then become destroyed as well. Their bodies broken, their minds in tatters, the red of their blood spilled for the Greedy Heartless Ones........a game to them, a way to make money for them, the Vision of theirs gone horribly wrong; but they'll not admit to it.

That this ongoing Vision of destruction doesn't work......

Keep forging on, don't worry....go shopping as Bush had said.....I guess for those who still have some money.

No, the Greedy Heartless Ones Vision isn't working.......

For all the other David's of this Country, or the other nameless women appox. 200 in Iraq who died and 140 who shed their blood until the life drained out of them in Afghanistan. It will not be admitted to the civilians of any Country, the ones we had at our side or the ones we invaded, that their Vision isn't working.

It isn't working for Aaron Swartz who also chose suicide when an over zealous Justice system came after him nor for Maria Fernandes who had to work 4 low paid jobs with no time to go home to sleep so slept in her car between jobs and was overcome with fumes. It isn't working for Charlene Dill who also worked low wage jobs and still didn't make enough with all 3 of them to take care of her medical condition on her heart and had no medical insurance, she is just as dead as Maria. It isn't working for Chelsea (Bradley) Manning who was bold and brave enough to tell the truth.

"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

All youth, all citizens in their 20's and early 30's.......all dead from a system that is CRUSHING the life out of them. One at a time........nameless to most of us, but dying across this Nation. That doesn't take into account the injured, maimed, lost, suffering, hungry, homeless, and without medical care.

Doesn't count the children without their parents now; nor the Mothers and Fathers whose children were taken in this Cold Heartless Vision.

We shouted no going into Syria.....with the Peace Prize Presidents request and the Red Line. It didn't happen then; but wait for the "terrorist" to come along and now it's all okay.

As Rachel Maddow pointed out, there are as many in Boko Haram that are murdering people, stealing girls, selling them into slavery, raping, pillaging, destroying whole villages, terrifying people. Yet we hardly hear a word about them. Why is it some lives are important to protect and other lives are not?

Why do we have to be anywhere? Bombing hasn't helped in any of these places.

Instead of asking important questions too many of the people get all upset that our Peace Prize President gave a salute with a coffee cup in his hands. If ONLY that was the least of our concerns.

As John Trudell said in this documentary I recently posted.......This Vision isn't working for anyone.
John Trudell Not Working For Anyone Said in First 5 Minutes

 

Angelika R (143)
Monday September 29, 2014, 10:05 am
Thx Sheryl, no need at all to say sorry, we know of your personal situation. Thx very much for coming by and yet another great comment !
As I posted somewhere else, on Eleonora's or Evelyn's thread, when he left St Petersburg G20 meeting last year, he tried to get that coalition together to bomb Syria, but failed then- so this is only the logical 2nd try and successful so far.. pushed by weknowwho..and too cowardly to withstand..and most likely his own goal as well, on behalf of his ziocons in the adnin and the MIC.
 

Angelika R (143)
Monday September 29, 2014, 3:33 pm
I've decided to add this piece by William Boardman to my existing post here as it fits in.

Hysteric POTUS Channels Bushist War Shtick Before UN

The U.S. without a war is like an apple pie without apples


Nobel Peace Prize recipient is among the loudest voices for war nowadays. Better, this Nobel Peace prize recipient has unchecked power to wage war and uses it willfully in a variety of nations. Perhaps best, this prize-winning peace president has set out a plan to make a desert and call it peace, for which a grateful power structure might well give him yet another prize.

Such absurdity dominates the world we live in now, because people in governments are committing us all to irrational choices based on no credible public explanation. Examples are myriad, but President Obama’s shrill war cries at the United Nations offer a paradigm of the present bloody moment that is, in part, a near-parody of grandiloquent George W. Bush doing his most preening strut as a feckless “war president.”

The following excerpts from President Obama’s long and specious 39-minute speech to the U.N. on September 24, 2014, are chosen to highlight the contradictions and deceits so carefully packaged with familiar, false pieties about imaginary realities. The pitch is fraudulent from the moment the president begins, with a pseudo-lofty, tripartite cliché untethered from the real world:

“We come together at a crossroads between war and peace; between disorder and integration; between fear and hope.”

Yes, every moment is a crossroads between war and peace in some place, a moment waiting for some commander somewhere to cross the line and start killing “enemies.” The president’s moment at the U.N. was NOT, for him or anyone else, a “crossroads” – he had long since proceeded straight across the intersection, extending the Iraq War of 2003 into its second decade; he had already escalated that war into Syria; he had long since carried on wars in Yemen, Libya, Somalia, and who knows where else. He has no legal authority to expand wage these wars, but he knows he has no Congress or court or any other opposition with both the will and the standing to challenge his decision for more killing in the blood zones of the Middle East.

There is no “crossroads between disorder and integration,” a meaningless construction about conditions that may exist independently or simultaneously. “Integration” is an especially absurd word to apply to the police states that stretch from Iran to Egypt. U.S. policy has failed for decades to promote even the most elementary, necessary integration of Israelis and Palestinians. U.S. policing now, as ever, only heightens the disintegration among Sunni and Shia. Disorder is the hallmark of the region, and the West has only made it worse for centuries. The present U.S.-sponsored war only increases the disorder, with no promise and little likelihood of a happy ending.

In the words of Chicago mayor Richard Daley circa 1968, commenting on his city’s police riot with unintentional accuracy: “The policeman is not here to create disorder. The policeman is here to preserve disorder.”

And so it has been with the American presence in the Middle East, where the world’s policeman helped to preserve disorder for decades before ratcheting up the intensity in 2003 by bringing fresh chaos to Iraq and the rest of the region. As the self-appointed policeman of the world, the U.S. has much to regret and atone for.

And there is no “crossroads between fear and hope.” These are emotions that often coexist, not artifacts from a Pentagon planning project. If truth were told, there are no crossroads at all in this moment of American “leadership.” There is only a headlong president whose hope now is that fear will lead to dead bodies strewn across several landscapes, and that those bodies will make him look good.

In his U.N. speech, President Obama moved from his imaginary crossroads into a couple of paragraphs of selective happy talk about progress, peace, poverty and prosperity. These remarks coming from an escalating commander-in-chief were not without irony as he cited the U.N. as “a unique achievement – the people of the world committing to resolve their differences peacefully, and solve their problems together.” Moments later, without explanation, this became “the failure of our international system.” Rhetoric requires no real basis in fact so long as choice emotive buttons get pushed effectively:

“The brutality of terrorists in Syria and Iraq forces us to look into the heart of darkness.”

If this line has meaning, it’s not likely a suggestion to review the brutality of others in the region, least of all our “allies.” And the line is surely not a humble recommendation to explore the dark heart of American methods of torture and killing over the past decade, and it’s not an expression of willingness to end the brutal penal colony at Guantanamo, where innocent and possibly guilty alike suffer without hope until they die. These horrors, like drones assassinating wedding parties, are brutalities that President Obama has failed to “look into,” much less tried to degrade and destroy.

There is little if anything the Islamic State has done to earn the hyperbolic fear-mongering it gets from this administration and the Fox network’s echo chamber. There is perhaps no grisly act the Islamic State has committed that has not been committed by the U.S. and/or its allies, with the possible exception of posting videos of beheadings on YouTube. Beheadings themselves are commonplace in countries like Saudi Arabia.

It’s not the beheadings that separate the brutality of the Islamic State from the brutality of others near and far, it’s the deployment of pictures of beheadings that has upset polite societies well-steeped in their denial. Posting such videos, censored as they are, has achieved a metaphorical beheading: leadership in the U.S. and elsewhere has lost its head over a theatrical provocation as effective emotionally as it is unimportant geopolitically. Some forty countries are now at war against a threat of minimal proportions, largely as a gut reaction to a disturbing movie. That’s not so much a heart of darkness as a head of darkness.

President Obama speaks from a darker heart when he refers to “Russian aggression” with no meaningful context. Failing to acknowledge the civil war in Ukraine, the U.S. president promises to “support the people of Ukraine,” when he means only some of the people of Ukraine:

“We call upon others to join us on the right side of history – for while small gains can be won at the barrel of a gun, they will ultimately be turned back if enough voices support the freedom of nations and peoples to make their own decisions.”

In countries all over the world, from Iran and Cuba to Afghanistan and Iraq, as well as all of Latin America, the United States has consistently opposed and often crushed “the freedom of nations and peoples to make their own decisions.” Even when native movements adopted their own versions of American founding documents the U.S. was not assuaged, as the Vietnamese learned at horrendous cost in the face of American brutality that makes the Islamic State look like a bunch of Quakers.

President Obama does not acknowledge this imperial history any more than his government’s present imperial imperative. As far as Ukraine goes, the fault is all with Russia, according to the president, who even lies about MH-17 to reinforce his phony bill of particulars. He certainly omits reference to his favored Ukrainians burning opponents alive in Odessa. Nowhere does he acknowledge anything like a Western-supported coup in Kiev that established an illegitimate government with a neo-Nazi tinge, whose war crimes in the east are documented by U.N. observers. Nowhere does this Nobel peace laureate acknowledge twenty years of Western stealth aggression against Russia, in which his own administration remains active.

With no apparent shame or sense of irony, the president refers to reducing nuclear arsenals and destroying Syria’s chemical weapons as “the kind of cooperation we are prepared to pursue again—if Russia changes course.”

Actually, these are things worth pursuing for their own sake, and if anyone needs to change course, it’s the West, the U.S./NATO/EU/IMF and the rest. The way the president couches it is intellectual fraud and moral blackmail.

The president takes a similar, not-our-fault-and-not-really-our-responsibility approach to various other issues, including poverty and climate change, where the evidence is to the contrary. Long as it is, the speech at the U.N. does not gain in coherence. The president who recently said he doesn’t have a strategy apparently still has no strategy, unless casting blame is somehow strategic:

“But as we look to the future, one issue risks a cycle of conflict that could derail such progress: and that is the cancer of violent extremism that has ravaged so many parts of the Muslim world.”

In context, the president’s implication is that Muslim extremists prevent the rest of the world from dealing sensibly with climate change. Read the speech, these are in consecutive paragraphs. And these bad Muslims are fearfully powerful:

“… they have embraced a nightmarish vision that would divide the world into adherents and infidels…. And it is no exaggeration to say that humanity’s future depends on us uniting against those who would divide us along fault lines of tribe or sect; race or religion.”

Or as President Bush put it thirteen years ago: “Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists.” The presidential rhetoric of 2001 lives on in the presidential rhetoric of 2014. Moments later, President Bush added, “This is the world's fight. This is civilization's fight. This is the fight of all who believe in progress and pluralism, tolerance and freedom.” Then he lied his country into war in Iraq.

In other words, it absolutely is an exaggeration to say that “humanity’s future” depends on fighting the Islamic State, a force numbering in the thousands, a force without nuclear weapons, and virtually defenseless against attack from the air. Like so many other governments and rebels, the Islamic State has committed atrocities, perhaps on the scale of Lidice, Wounded Knee, Suchow, My Lai, Dublin, or other mass killings. President Obama charges the Islamic State with committing “the most horrific crimes imaginable,” which is flatly untrue. Islamists have not perpetrated a Holocaust or the atomic vaporization of a city. These are accomplishments of Western civilization.

Bad as it was, Islamist treatment of Yazidis in Iraq came nowhere close to the Turkish genocide of Armenians in the early 20th century. Yet genocide-denying Turkey is a much-desired ally. And the president, citing “videos of the atrocity [of beheading],” says somewhat hysterically of the enemy du jour:

“No God condones this terror. No grievance justifies these actions. There can be no reasoning – no negotiation – with this brand of evil. The only language understood by killers like this is the language of force. So the United States of America will work with a broad coalition to dismantle this network of death.”

And the way the United States will do this is to bring more war, death, and suffering to a region already hostile to the West for its centuries of abuse. But the president presumably knows that some God condones that terror. For all his high-pitched condemnation of Islamic State beliefs, the president omits their nurturing safe haven in Saudi Arabia, where the state religion is a conservative Sunni belief system with much in common with the Sunnis of the Islamic State. Saudis have supported the Islamic State for years. Saudi Arabia is a police state that allows the open practice of no religion other than Islam.

For the United States, this is not division “into adherents and infidels,” this is just a quirk of a major oil producer. Besides, as the U.S. president told the U.N., the real problem is elsewhere:

“It is time for a new compact among the civilized peoples of this world to eradicate war at its most fundamental source: the corruption of young minds by violent ideology…. We must offer an alternative vision.”

The answer to the whole problem turns out to be marketing! And not just any marketing, marketing to the young!

So war is just marketing by other means? And marketing is way more persuasive than justice? And blaming victims, the young who have no effective power to change anything happening to them now, is an intellectually tenable position? And it’s a moral perspective? And God condones it?

The president’s “final point” is:

“… the countries of the Arab and Muslim world must focus on the extraordinary potential of their people – especially the youth.”

This may sound like patronizing nonsense, but perhaps the president means it as another example of “the freedom of nations and peoples to make their own decisions.” Or perhaps not:

“If young people live in places where the only option is between the dictates of a state, or the lure of an extremist underground – no counter-terrorism strategy can succeed…. No external power can bring about a transformation of hearts and minds. But America will be a respectful and constructive partner.”

We’re talking to you, Saudi Arabia and Bahrain and Kuwait and other police states, the president seems to say, and we don’t really mean anything by it, we just have a home audience that needs gulling.

The Islamic State has few if any friends, so bombing its people has little or no immediate political cost. Better, they can be punished without disrupting much of the oil business, while at the same time boosting the arms business. Down the line there may be blowback – again – but that’s down the line.

And besides, America is exceptional, and that exceptionalism means that God condones whatever we do, or as the president puts it:

“… we welcome the scrutiny of the world…. we fight for our ideals, and are willing to criticize ourselves…. we hold our leaders accountable, and insist on a free press and independent judiciary…. we address our differences in the open space of democracy – with respect for the rule of law….”

That’s part of the ideal, to be sure.

The reality is that each of the five most recent presidential administrations has committed war crimes (and other crimes), for which almost no one has been held accountable and some have received presidential pardons. Government secrecy continues to expand, police state tactics continue to spread, the “free press” is controlled by fewer and fewer people, and this president has responded to these trends by criminally charging more reporters than all his predecessors combined.

The president, who wages war without legal authority, concludes:

“The people of the world look to us, here [at the U.N.], to be as decent, as dignified, and as courageous as they are in their daily lives. And at this crossroads, I can promise you that the United States of America will not be distracted or deterred from what must be done…. Join us in this common mission, for today’s children and tomorrow’s.”

The candidate of hope and change in 2008 has somehow become the president of war and fear in 2014, channeling his predecessor’s rhetoric while pursuing similar policies somewhat less recklessly. How did this happen?

Somehow this U.S. president has reached the point of making an Orwellian argument that war is peace, that war is decent, dignified, and courageous, even (or especially) against an outnumbered, militarily helpless, hapless, non-state enemy (a “muscular new course,” the New York Times called it). And why, why should this one-sided war be waged?

Do it for the children – or at least for the ones who survive. That’s what it comes down to in President Obama’s crie de guerre.
(http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/26141-focus-hysteric-potus-channels-bushist-war-shtick-before-un)
 

Angelika R (143)
Monday September 29, 2014, 3:41 pm
Don't miss the comments section there.
( example excerpt: "Leaders" and the propaganda machines have now so completely brain-washed the pitifully gullible general public that when "leaders" command: "shit your britches NOW", the Pavlovian conditioned response from the public is merely "how full, Sir ?")
 

Vallee R (280)
Sunday November 9, 2014, 11:55 am
It is all political and set up! The elite are always behind these things.
 
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