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PETITION: Please Sign for the Unsung Heroes Who Said NO to Torture

Society & Culture  (tags: Obama, CIA, torture program, heroes who said no, formal honor, culture, americans, crime, abuse, law, government )

- 1613 days ago -
Ask president Obama Isn't it time we honored those who said no to torture? Formally honor those who, when our nation went off course, stayed true to our most fundamental ideals.


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jan b (5)
Tuesday December 16, 2014, 2:45 pm
Tell it to FOX TV ---that Americans do not approve of torture regardless of what Dick Cheney & Company say. It's against intern'l law and the more Dick Cheney talks the more he puts himself in prison ( we can only hope)

Kathleen M (208)
Tuesday December 16, 2014, 2:46 pm
Gladly signed, shared and noted. Thanks for posting, Angelika!

John Pierce (228)
Tuesday December 16, 2014, 2:48 pm
Signed & shared, thank you Angelika

Tuesday December 16, 2014, 2:48 pm
Done... Lets hope they actually said no

Angelika R (143)
Tuesday December 16, 2014, 2:49 pm
"Formally honor the members of the military, the CIA, and other public servants who, when our nation went off course, stayed true to our most fundamental ideals."
It seems clear there will not be any prosecution, as Obama had already said earlier. Even the UN High Commissioner's call may thus meet deaf ears, so the least thing the presdent can and SHOULD do is, honor those whose names we know.

Please also check out the individual ACTS OF COURAGE videos about some of the brave, read there stories and learn how withstanding the wrong was punished on top of all.

Slava R (1311)
Tuesday December 16, 2014, 2:50 pm
done thank u

Angelika R (143)
Tuesday December 16, 2014, 2:54 pm
At least European courts have taken some action long ago, is why Cheney, Rumsfeld &co cannot travel to Europe without getting indicted. Our AG is currently weighing in on a prosecution of others guilty of breaking the law.

Past Member (0)
Tuesday December 16, 2014, 3:05 pm
Noted and happily signed.
Thank you Angelika

Animae C (508)
Tuesday December 16, 2014, 3:48 pm
Thank you for calling on President Obama to honor those who said no to torture.

Thanx Angie

Stephen D (58)
Tuesday December 16, 2014, 4:09 pm
Isn`t it time? I think so. ... ty Angelika

Nicole W (646)
Tuesday December 16, 2014, 5:25 pm
Thank you for calling on President Obama to honor those who said no to torture.

Maria Teresa Schollhorn (42)
Tuesday December 16, 2014, 6:36 pm
Noted and signed. Thanks Angelika.

Past Member (0)
Tuesday December 16, 2014, 6:46 pm
Signed-thx Angie

Carrie B (306)
Tuesday December 16, 2014, 7:33 pm
Signed, noted, and tweeted.

Ana MESNER (201)
Tuesday December 16, 2014, 10:39 pm
Thank you for calling on President Obama to honor those who said no to torture.

t.y Angie

Angelika R (143)
Wednesday December 17, 2014, 5:19 am
I suggest you do watch some of the videos or read at least some of their stories. One of the most shocking facts to me for an alledged democratic country is the way the Pentagon instigated prosecutors to perversion of justice, another crime withing the crime.

Repeating llink from above : ** ACTS OF COURAGE videos and stories **

Angelika R (143)
Wednesday December 17, 2014, 6:26 am
We've in fact been seeing a major CRIME for years, decades. Already president Gerald Ford back during his presidency called the CIA a "cesspool" which would “ruin the U.S. image around the world”, when he forbid the Rockefeller Commission to make any inquiry into CIA foreign operations.

Ljiljana M (115)
Wednesday December 17, 2014, 6:48 am
Signed > Thank you for calling on President Obama to honor those who said no to torture
& Thank you Angelika

Ben O (131)
Wednesday December 17, 2014, 6:52 am
I live in Sweden, signed anyway. So, I thank myself for calling on President Obama to honor those who said no to torture!

JeanisAWAY G (136)
Wednesday December 17, 2014, 10:50 am
Thank you for calling on President Obama to honor those who said no to torture. Your support makes a difference.
Danke Angelika

Arlene C (28)
Wednesday December 17, 2014, 11:09 am
signé avec plaisir

JL A (281)
Wednesday December 17, 2014, 11:24 am
signed--possibly before, noted; thanks for posting Angei

Sheryl G (359)
Wednesday December 17, 2014, 1:11 pm
Thank you for calling on President Obama to honor those who said no to torture.

I wish every Country would not allow those who tortured, knew of it, partook in it, would be arrested upon entry of another Country. Lessen their ability to move around a bit. I don't ever expect this Country to throw them in jail where they belong but I'd like to at least see a Nation shun them where-ever they went. Don't buy their books, inform them that the room at the Inn is all booked up, stop asking them for interviews and speaking engagements, so on and so forth.

Rose Becke (141)
Wednesday December 17, 2014, 1:25 pm

Angelika R (143)
Wednesday December 17, 2014, 4:07 pm
what can I say--- maybe "if only Americans knew"- I guess you all do realise that you were presented in public with only about one twelfth of the initial report and full scale of this crime.You won't read about except on alternative online media like this:

jan l (89)
Wednesday December 17, 2014, 5:48 pm
Are we expecting, when in war, that everyone "plays nice?" Crimes against the tenets of the Geneva Convention have gone unheeded and ignored for far too long. No nation came to the aid for American POWs and MIAs. Why not HONOR those who stoodfast in their beliefs and did not inflict torture of any degree. Tortuture isn't always barbaric nor seemingly cruel. Leaving it at that, perhaps there should be an award - for going aginst orders, and not participating? Or can it be worded otherwise --- humane treatment under inhumane conditions. i think Pegasus could even make that one fly.

Angelika R (143)
Wednesday December 17, 2014, 6:36 pm
Jan, I like the idea of honoring ALL those who stoodfast in their beliefs and did not inflict torture of any degree.
Only, we have no petition at hand for those, let's honor them nevertheless. But you're wrong in saying "torture isn't always barbaric nor seemingly cruel", it is pretty clearly defined what torture is.
The "award" for for those going against order and not participating has in some cases been decades of jail sentence, this we also know.

Bruce C D (89)
Thursday December 18, 2014, 12:13 am
Signed, noted. Thank-you, Angelika.

I agree with you, Angelika, that it wouldn't be called torture if it wasn't barbaric, cruel, and inhumane. However, I know of no American military personnel or civilian who ever was sentenced to decades of jail sentence for refusing to participate in torture.

There is one American who could possibly face decades in prison (if not pardoned), and that is Chelsea Manning. However, Manning was sentenced not because of a passive refusal to participate, but for treasonous actions in actively releasing classified material. Now, don't get me wrong, I happen to think Manning did the right thing, and I don't think she deserved to be jailed and treated as she has been. But it isn't the same as saying she is being imprisoned for decades for not participating in torture.

Jonathan Harper (0)
Thursday December 18, 2014, 1:16 am

Past Member (0)
Thursday December 18, 2014, 4:16 am
Let's work for true equality

Arild Warud (174)
Thursday December 18, 2014, 4:51 am
Signed,thanks Angelika.

Angelika R (143)
Thursday December 18, 2014, 6:42 am
" But it isn't the same as saying she is being imprisoned for decades for not participating in torture."

Bruce, I am very aware of this difference but, the phrasing Jan I. used included "for going against orders".
Since you already attested me to have a "simplistic view" on American matters, just attribute my wider interpretation of that point to that, thus justifying to include all CIA officials turned whistleblowers. Primarily John Kiriaku whose original sentence of decades jail time (300 months) was changed to 30 months only due to a dubious deal.

Winn Adams (179)
Thursday December 18, 2014, 7:11 am

Angelika R (143)
Thursday December 18, 2014, 7:39 am
If you've not already, please also SIGN THE AI PETITION here
* Demand Accountability for Torture *

Past Member (0)
Thursday December 18, 2014, 9:01 am
done ty

Sharon L (132)
Thursday December 18, 2014, 11:27 am

Joanne Dixon (37)
Thursday December 18, 2014, 12:55 pm
I would like for the honorees to include John Kiriakou.

Lois Jordan (63)
Thursday December 18, 2014, 1:20 pm
Noted. Both petitions gladly signed. Many thanks, Angelika.
Hoping to increase my donation to ACLU in 2015.

Birgit W (160)
Thursday December 18, 2014, 2:30 pm
Gladly signed. Thanks Angelika.

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Thursday December 18, 2014, 3:49 pm

Gloria H (88)
Thursday December 18, 2014, 6:41 pm
the only justice that Cheney will get in this lifetime will be when his medical miracle heart gizmo finally stops beating. Until then, the Bionic Demonic Cheney will be like the Energizer Rabbit...going on ticking, ticking, ticking.
Years from now, maybe some tell all book will chastise him at least in print, but he, like Nixon (opening the way to China trade) , like Reagan (Honest tell the truth Ronnie) will be remembered for all the $good things they have done for the world of busine$$.

M B (62)
Friday December 19, 2014, 1:06 am
Signed both petitions, thanks.

Alfiya Topchiy (80)
Friday December 19, 2014, 7:34 am
Signed and noted

Patrice Z (16)
Friday December 19, 2014, 8:10 am
Signed and noted.

Ingrid A (524)
Friday December 19, 2014, 9:56 am

Helga Ganguly (138)
Friday December 19, 2014, 1:24 pm
I don't know why people still behave as if it were some great surprise. After Abu Ghraib? After Guantanamo? Damn it-after reading Lord of the Flies? You think Americans are superior to a handful of children left to their own devices? I don't. The only difference between Cheney and Hitler is geography and the oh so feeble press.

ewoud k (68)
Friday December 19, 2014, 1:40 pm
S&N, thanks Angelika!

Judy C (91)
Friday December 19, 2014, 2:25 pm
Signed this and the other petition, as well. I agree with Joanne, honor Kiriaku. Thanks Angelika.

Judy C (91)
Friday December 19, 2014, 2:27 pm
Will check out the video, too.

Bonnie Lynn M (1)
Friday December 19, 2014, 6:59 pm
Petition signed. Thank you

Colleen L (3)
Friday December 19, 2014, 7:19 pm
Petition signed. Thanks Angelika

Angelika R (143)
Saturday December 20, 2014, 5:32 am
For coming visitors here- please also sign the AI PETITION- link further above!

Joseph P (0)
Saturday December 20, 2014, 3:57 pm
Close to 30 years ago, I swore a sacred oath, the first line of which is "PRIMUM NON NOCERE". For those of you not up on your Latin, it means, "First, do no harm" and it is the first sentence of the Hippocratic Oath. I've tried my best to be faithful to that oath; it speaks to me personally about why I became a physician and then a psychiatrist working with victims of Rape, Child Sexual Abuse, etc. I find it incredulous that any physician would use this Oath for toilet paper and his/her skills to aid and abet torture. I may be incredulous, but the facts (some still hidden) speak for themselves. I've been practicing for nearly three decades and hold multiple doctorates and a lot of "juice". (My kid sister was Chief of the Sex Crimes Bureau in a major city and accepted a promotion to Chief Executive ADA to enable her boss to find a suitable candidate.) I've been able to tell the powers that be to go DIRECTLY to HELL when they have approach my colleagues or me to pervert our knowledge of the healing arts. In turn, some of my "connected" friends and colleagues have extended me their protection. (Would YOU bother me knowing that I've successfully treated the children and grandchildren of about 20 Supreme Court, US Court of Appeals and Federal District Court judges? These weren't easy cases. I haven't had an easy case except for my sister's yearly Rx for Percocet 10/325 for severe migraine-type/variant HAs!) A medical degree is not just, a character in an episode of "Law & Order:SVU" stated, "A certification of skill." (I would have fired her for that statement alone.) It's more than that. In microcosm, our commitment to heal represents our nation's commitment to do the right thing the right way. We, as licensed healthcare providers — whether RNs, NPs or MD/PhDs — have the moral responsibility to take a stand, a stand in support of the Hippocratic Oath. I
ve thrown a few monkey wrenches into the homegrown Gestapo's and SS's plans. I control a great deal of federal and private grant money. I learned how to write grant proposals from my brilliant mother. When the whisper stream told me that one of more of my staff was going to be co-opted or "drafted", I announced that anyone who participated in whatever atrocity would be fired (that's legal for healthcare professionals), would no longer be making $100-200K (or more) working on the research project in question and face serious charges before their states Offie of Professional Conduct's Disciplinary Committee. Those people can suspend or revoke licenses, suspend or revoke Controlled Substance prescribing privileges. I'm to young to have fought there Nazis during World War II, bit I'm doing my best to fight them here and now. Physicians are HEALERS, not technicians and not overseers of "torture lite".

Joseph P (0)
Saturday December 20, 2014, 4:00 pm
From Dr Joey — I usually type more accurately, but when I'm REALU angry, almost anything can escape from my keyboard. I really am literate and I really did earn that PhD as well as my MD. I thank people of goodwill for standing with us on this issue. After all, the man whose birth we celebrate next week came incarnated as a manto "save the world from Satan's power" and redeem our sins. (No offense to non-Christians, of course.(

Angelika R (143)
Saturday December 20, 2014, 7:45 pm
"homegrown Gestapo 's and SS's plans" covers it all pretty accurately I think. That seems where the deeper problem lies. thx Dr Joey.

Sheryl G (359)
Sunday December 21, 2014, 5:44 am
"torture isn't always barbaric nor seemingly cruel"...............Jan really?

Amazes me how someone could even write that sentence. Hello, the word is TORTURE.

Sigh.....and we wonder why.

roxy H (350)
Wednesday December 24, 2014, 6:21 pm
Traps hold wolves and animals with LOVE and Warmth and Bombs are only meant to speak LOUDLY not to cause pain or death, also Poison is only used to cause a little internal DISCOMFORT..... Now we all can Paint those words with fluff and glitter, but if you really look.... Poison, Traps, and Bombs are all TORTURE!

Angelika R (143)
Thursday December 25, 2014, 3:30 pm
Rxy, I absolutely agree on tnat!

Carol Bischoff (409)
Wednesday January 21, 2015, 2:47 am
Noted and signed. Thank you Angelika.
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