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Church Wavers on Child Sex Scandals in Pope's Homeland

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Despite the Argentine pope's pledge to punish pedophilia, several Latin American countries are grappling with molestation cases and the church's hushed responses.


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Past Member (0)
Wednesday October 23, 2013, 7:37 am
New Pope...same old. Thx Cal

Bryna Pizzo (139)
Wednesday October 23, 2013, 8:29 am
Thank you, Cal, for exposing the truth about the Catholic church. I'm saddened to hear that nothing has changed. It's truly tragic for the children.

Gene Jacobson (290)
Wednesday October 23, 2013, 8:55 am
"For critics, the cases show the church under Francis — who was archbishop of Buenos Aires before becoming Latin America's first pope — still has a long way to go in how it handles pedophile priests."

How this "church" can accept this for SO long, which I am thinking is since its creation, and still call itself a ministry is beyond my understanding. That so many within are in denial over the truth, that pedophilia seems to run rampant through the "celibate" ranks of its priesthood is disgusting. Why any ndividual still contributes to this giant child abuse ring is also a mystery to me. Yes, they do some good. But they also do a LOT of harm. I don't think the surface has been scratched by the investigations conducted so far. I think this is so deeply rooted in the institution that the institution is beyond saving. I think they ought commit all their resources to removing every trace of this infection or shutter their doors and find other work. Not with children.

Theodore Shayne (56)
Wednesday October 23, 2013, 9:42 am
Whitewash and hogwash. The Ethiopian can not change the color of his skin or the leopard its spots and neither can the church change its liturgy of sickness. The people should rise up against it and demand reform to the point of kicking them right out of the country. No priest can expiate your sins; sell you indulgences to buy your loved one out of purgatory or turn water into wine or wafers into Christ's actual flesh. Then of course there's the selling of relics and seeing Jesus' face in everything from a wall to a potato and bleeding statues.
The Catholic Church is the purveyor of material wealth and one of the biggest Ponzi schemes in mankind's history. One cardinal was heard saying to another how Christianity was the biggest and most lucrative idea the Church ever had.
It's up to the individual to worship and as long as you give these people power over your lives, child molestation; questionable politics and high chicanery will continue to malignantly grow. Mind you the Protestant churches have a lot to answer for too and Martin Luther was just as harsh and self righteous as any bishop or cardinal.

. (0)
Wednesday October 23, 2013, 2:12 pm
Stars to Theodore and Gene.

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Wednesday October 23, 2013, 3:51 pm

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Wednesday October 23, 2013, 4:39 pm
'Francis’ new tone may be an attempt to reverse that trend by making Catholicism more accessible and reaching out to those who felt excluded by its moral admonitions on a range of issues, from reproductive rights to homosexuality.
In a recent interview, he called on Catholics not to be so "obsessed" with imposing doctrine
Yet the pontiff may be thwarted by resistance from conservative priests.'
Utter, utter NONSENSE!!!
NOBODY is fooled by this!!! [Except for those who WANT to be fooled, for their own pitiful psychological reasons, i.e., the "True Believers" in spite of everything.]

The REASON that the previous Pope-a-dope resigned, and the New Guy was produced out of a hat, was ENTIRELY a P.R. REASON.
The Old Guy wasn't presenting a very good FACADE for the Church any more.

Pope Francis, whose very NAME is a carefully-chosen P.R. gimmick, just DOESN'T WANT YOU TO LOOK AT THOSE "CONTROVERSIAL" AND CATHOLIC-DAMNING ISSUES any more!!!
Yeah, blame "the pontiff may be thwarted by resistance from conservative priests."
Yeah, uh-huh, SURRRRRE.....
The Hierarchy will ALWAYS BE THE SAME, the Bishops will ALWAYS be the same, the Pope WILL ALWAYS BE -- THE SAME, in Catholic Doctrine.

NO Pope-a-dope, NO Hierarchy - and NO CATHOLIC, really, truth be told - has ANY CHOICE in the matter.
The Pope and the Roman Catholic Church will be restrained FOREVER - by the Doctrine, the Dogma of "Papal Infallibility". That means, that the CHURCH CANNOT CHANGE ITS POSITION. No way, NEVER.

Since, according to the RIDICULOUS Doctrine of "Papal Infallibility", ANY and ALL Popes are STUCK WITH, FOREVER, what a Previous Pope has said {officially, on Church Doctrine}.
The Doctrine claims that "God wouldn't allow the Pope {officially speaking} to make a mistake... the Pope speaks FOR God". So, any and all Future Popes are HAMSTRUNG by any NONSENSE their Predecessors have said {officially speaking}.

Bet the Catholics wish they'd never come up with such an IDIOT Doctrine... but they can't go back, can't CONTRADICT it...
it was, of course, ITSELF stated by an "Infallible" {and certifiably insane!} megalomaniac Pope...

milca V (79)
Wednesday October 23, 2013, 4:59 pm
not much more to say... gene and theodore said it perfectly... but as a european, from a protestant family (but being religion-free myself), i must salute the courage of the original protestants in europe, who dared disagree with the supreme dictatorship of the catholic church (and many where burnt alive for it) ...and where reading the bible in secret, at the risk of their lives... (the church services were said in latin, incomprehensible for the people)... discrimination from the catholic church vis a vis protestants still exist in Europe... for instance, protestant chaplains need to work longer before retirement, wages are less than catholics (while protestant can marry and have children, and catholics, not... ) , they have to pay for their 'military parade uniforms, catholics not... etc... incredible, no?...

Sonny Honrado (5)
Wednesday October 23, 2013, 5:18 pm
I think this scandal is "universal" in nature.

Rose Becke (141)
Wednesday October 23, 2013, 5:23 pm
should this really surprise us ?

Sheila D (194)
Wednesday October 23, 2013, 7:54 pm
This has been going on since the founders of the Church decided no women allowed, that priests had to keep celibate. Wonder who had that bright idea in the first place??

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Wednesday October 23, 2013, 8:34 pm
'Although Latin America spawned the “liberation theology” movement of leftist priests who dedicated themselves to helping the poor — and which John Paul II decried as Marxist — it’s also home to some of the most reactionary clergy in the world.

Cipriani, the archbishop of Lima, is the most senior cleric in Opus Dei, the movement that follows a literal — its critics say harsh — interpretation of the Bible.'
Yes, THAT Opus Dei. The one in the novel "The Da Vinci Code".
It really DOES exist. And it really IS an Evil Force in the world!

"Liberation Theology" was OF COURSE called "Marxist" and "Leftist" and "Communist" and everything BAD, because it was a CATHOLIC Doctrine in Latin America that sent priests out to live with, and work directly with, the Poor.
Of COURSE that's "Communist", on the face of it!
The current Pope at that time, working together with the CIA from the U.S., made sure to SQUELCH that "evil doctrine", that the wealthy Landowners in those countries didn't like, at all.

While Pedophile priests went on their merry way totally unbothered, "Liberation Theology" priests were excommunicated, humiliated, forced to recant, and it some instances the really stubborn ones were murdered.
The present Pope, while a Cardinal in Argentina, was up to his eyeballs in this repression of "Liberation Theology" and its practitioners...
Now he wants us all to FORGET all that... and we do have such SHORT memories, we like the versions of Reality that are spoon-fed to us according to what the media manipulators know we WANT to believe... and hope for...

Dogan Ozkan (5)
Wednesday October 23, 2013, 9:56 pm
noted new pope old traditiom

Athena F (131)
Thursday October 24, 2013, 1:40 am
same as it ever was..
thank you!

Ken O (55)
Thursday October 24, 2013, 1:56 pm
So, if a Bishop spends too much money that will get him bounced but if he molests 50 children is ok? Business as usual in the Church of the Holy Pedophile.

Birgit W (160)
Thursday October 24, 2013, 2:49 pm
Nothing has changed. I am waiting for the time when all the religions are being abolished. Wouldn't it be nice if all the killings about different religions would be gone?
This does not mean that you have to give up your personal believes in a higher power.

Charlene Rush (79)
Thursday October 24, 2013, 3:36 pm

We should have had more Pope Francis' around, in our past.

Robert T (62)
Thursday October 24, 2013, 5:18 pm
It is beginning to look like the Pope holds little influence in the Catholic Church. He gives an order and it may or may not be obeyed. Although, I am not Catholic I hoped that Frances was about to make real changes in the church.

Winn A (179)
Thursday October 24, 2013, 5:25 pm
I don't understand how the Catholic Church still survives with the disgusting and despicable priests who are still involved in pedophilia activities. Will this "religion" never do the right thing? I call on the Catholic church, in every country, from top to bottom, shine a light on these disgusting and despicable activities and have these people arrested, prosecuted and put in jail. How can these "priests" just get away with this? And, who in their right mind would continue to be affiliated with this "religion"?

John van Nijnatten (6)
Friday October 25, 2013, 6:15 am
Noted, thank you for sharing.

Roger G (148)
Sunday October 27, 2013, 1:54 pm
noted, thanks

DaleLovesOttawa O (198)
Sunday October 27, 2013, 9:00 pm
Pedophiles, no matter who they are or where they are, must be punished unconditionally! No exceptions.

Nimue Michelle Pendragon Gaze (339)
Monday October 28, 2013, 5:30 am
Same old crap. The catholic church will never change, no matter who's in charge.

Jessica O (9)
Monday October 28, 2013, 10:22 am
Organized religion is a farce. If I ever get into a "heaven", it is because I have respected others and any life on earth and done my best to preserve it.
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