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Turkey Descends Into Civil War as Conflict in Southeast Escalates

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In southern Turkey a local rebellion has escalated into regional devastation


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Past Member (0)
Sunday February 7, 2016, 11:51 pm

Arild Gone for now (174)
Monday February 8, 2016, 5:06 am
Turkey - a NATO member - is playing a dirty game against the Kurds.

Animae C (508)
Monday February 8, 2016, 5:13 am
O charming, another war!! Just what this planet needed!!!

Winn Adams (179)
Monday February 8, 2016, 6:16 am

Marianne R (78)
Monday February 8, 2016, 7:43 am
Sad -

Paul Christensen (1)
Monday February 8, 2016, 1:23 pm
Wasn't it the Kurds who were among the most effective in countering IS?....Better sign an arms deal with the Turks now I guess.Just to make sure the fighting continues,region wide,and the arms dealers can continue to keep their profit projections on track.This whole deal just make me ill as well as ashamed .Western "democracies"and their corporations go home you foster nothing but suffering in the middle east period

Past Member (0)
Monday February 8, 2016, 2:16 pm
To add to the show. Peace waits somewhere in time---guess it has an infinite amount of patience and tenacity. Thanks Cal.

Birgit W (160)
Monday February 8, 2016, 2:30 pm

Lois Jordan (63)
Monday February 8, 2016, 4:00 pm
Noted. Thanks, Cal.
I agree with Paul C.'s above comment. Bring home our troops and treasure!

Janet B (0)
Monday February 8, 2016, 5:34 pm

Sheila D (28)
Monday February 8, 2016, 7:56 pm
This is appalling. Thanks for the post, Cal.

LucyKaleido ScopeEyes (82)
Tuesday February 9, 2016, 3:29 am
Turkey has from the beginning been using the Syrian crisis and, even more so, international intervention against ISIL as an excuse to attack the Kurds, which is simply horrendous particularly when you know (as someone pointed out above) that the Kurds have been just about the only forces on the ground fighting against ISIL aka Daesh & bravely sacrificing life and limb in the ongoing battle.

Turkey has always been against the Kurds because the Kurish nationalist & separatist movements are a threat to Turkey; Kurdish autonomy & self-determination are a threat to Turkey's territorial surface area & borders.

Turkey has systematically opposed Kurdish autonomy and self-determination, ever since the collapse of the Ottoman Empire. Iran & Syria are also countries with Kurdish populations from the Kurdish diaspora and have also, historically, taken a hard line against Kurdish self-determination & autonomy. Take a look at the Wiki article on the Kurds @

The Kurds have been denied their OWN nation-state for centuries, I think.

Ĺucia A (16)
Tuesday February 9, 2016, 1:38 pm
Noted and shared. Stop wars.

Jim Ven (0)
Tuesday February 9, 2016, 3:59 pm
thanks for the article.

Sheila S (49)
Wednesday February 10, 2016, 3:53 pm
PLEASE TAKE NOTE: There is a HUGE difference between the Government of Turkey and the People of Turkey. Let's not get those two confused - especially when making sweeping generalizations. I have a dear C2 Friend in Istanbul - only about 15 hours from this fighting - who wants nothing more than peace.

LucyKaleido ScopeEyes (82)
Thursday February 11, 2016, 5:26 am
When I say 'Turkey' I am talking about the actions of the country as led by governments, past or present, depending on the context, which I make clear.

A majority of Turks voted the present government into power, otherwise the country wouldn't be led by the awful, Islamo-fascist, right-wing, nationalist president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

There are also many Turks who are against him & his right-wing policies. He has never stopped regular attempts to punish & silence opposition voices and muzzle the press, arbitrarily rounding up and arresting journalists and editors, again and again, conducting a virtual take-over of the country by himself & his 'Justice and Development' party aka the AK party (in Turkish AK=Adalet ve Kalkınma Partisi), which "has spread its tentacles across Turkish society," "sometimes overtly, but often by stealth and dissimulation." (See the Economist article linked to below)

=> Huffington Post, 01/20/2016 - "Jailed Journalists In Turkey Say Arrest Aimed At Gagging Press" - "Two editors from the left-wing Cumhuriyet newspaper were arrested on Nov. 26, 2015.":

"Two jailed Turkish editors, accused of spying and helping a terrorist group, have told Reuters in a faxed message from prison that their arrest was designed to send a warning to journalists.
Can Dundar, editor-in-chief of the left-wing Cumhuriyet newspaper, and its senior editor Erdem Gul were arrested on Nov. 26 over the publication of footage purporting to show the state intelligence agency helping send weapons to Syria.
.../... President Tayyip Erdogan has cast the newspaper's coverage as part of a bid to undermine Turkey's standing on the world stage.
"Our arrest is a clear message aimed at the press, saying: 'Don't write.' This is a direct drive at self-censorship," the two journalists said in a handwritten fax, cleared by a prison committee that reads inmates' correspondence. .../... "

=> Today's Zaman, December 29, 2015 - 3 journalists released pending trial, 30 still behind bars in Turkey -Excerpt: "According to a report by the New York-based Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ) released on Dec. 15, Turkey is fifth on the list of the world's leading jailers of journalists ranked after China, Egypt, Iran and Eritrea."

=> The Economist - Special report: Turkey - Feb 6th 2016 - "Getting Off the Train" -"Mr Erdogan’s commitment to democracy seems to be fading" - Excerpts:

"Early in his career Mr Erdogan made a telling remark he was later to regret. Democracy is like a train, he said; you get off once you have reached your destination. Now many of his party’s critics fear that Turkey’s president may be getting close to that goal."

"One example is the use of legislation that penalises insults to the head of state. Turkey’s criminal code has contained such a law since 1926, but it was rarely applied before Mr Erdogan was elected president in August 2014. Opposition MPs say that since then state prosecutors have investigated more than 1,500 people for insulting the president, a crime that can carry a sentence of more than four years. In the first ten months of 2015 nearly 100 people were held in custody on such charges, including cartoonists and journalists, but also teenage boys who had defaced campaign posters or posted Facebook messages. A woman in Izmir was recently sentenced to 11 months in prison for a rude hand gesture directed at Mr Erdogan."

"An illuminating case of a different kind is that of Sevan Nisanyan, a 59-year-old linguist and author of an etymology of modern Turkish. Mr Nisanyan is also known for his work to restore a semi-derelict village near Turkey’s Aegean coast, a rare example of careful conservation in a region better known for rampant tourist development. Since January 2014 he has been in prison, sentenced to an astonishing 16 years for various minor infractions of building codes, in a country where illegal construction is commonplace; even Mr Erdogan’s new presidential palace violates zoning laws. Mr Nisanyan is of Armenian extraction, as well as being an outspoken atheist and a critic of the AK party."

"The most glaring example of the AK party’s creeping annexation of the public sphere, however, are Turkey’s media. By putting pressure on private owners and making vigorous use of laws against incitement, defamation and the spread of “terrorist propaganda”, the party has come to exercise control over all but a handful of broadcasters and news publishers. “I don’t remember any time when it was like this,” says Erol Onderoglu of Reporters Without Borders, a watchdog group. “Hundreds of journalists have been fired or arrested in the past five years, and we expect more every day.”

"In recent months the assault on press freedom has involved not just threats and spurious judicial procedures but outright violence. In September mobs attacked the offices of Hurriyet, one of Turkey’s few remaining independent newspapers, after Mr Erdogan criticised its editors on national television. Soon afterwards thugs, several of whom were later found to be AK party members, beat up a popular television presenter, Ahmet Hakan, in front of his Istanbul home, breaking his nose and several ribs. In December Mr Hakan found himself threatened with an investigation for “propagating terrorism” after a guest on his programme said it was a mistake to dismiss the PKK as a terrorist organisation.
.../... "

=> February 10, 2016, - Turkey’s Revival of a Dirty ‘Deep State’ -Excerpts:

"Exclusive: NATO keeps backing Turkey, one of its members, despite its aid to the Islamic State and other jihadists fighting Syria’s secular government — and even though Turkey’s erratic President Erdogan may be leading NATO into a risky showdown with Syria’s Russian allies ...."
" .../...
Like many of his secular predecessors, Erdogan has reverted to waging an all-out war against radical Kurdish separatists, the PKK. He is dramatically expanding the once discredited National Intelligence Agency, which in years past recruited Mafia criminals and right-wing terrorists to murder Kurdish leaders, left-wing activists and intellectuals. And he appears to be forging an alliance with ultranationalist members of the National Action Party (MHP), who supplied many of the ruthless killers for those murderous operations."
"“The intimidation and the number of arrests have steadily risen in the last 10 years,” Der Spiegel observed in 2013. “Many journalists no longer dare to report what’s really happening, authors avoid making public appearances and government critics need bodyguards. The anti-terrorism law is an effective instrument of power for the government as the supposed terrorist threat is an accusation that’s hard to disprove. It plays on a deep-rooted fear among Turks that someone is trying to destabilize and damage the nation.”

"The two big trials that fanned that fear were based on falsified evidence and a politicized judicial system. The injustice was effectively recognized by Istanbul’s high criminal court in 2014 when it freed the former army chief of staff convicted in the Ergenekon case. In March 2015, a prosecutor admitted that evidence submitted in the Sledgehammer case was “fake” and 236 convicted suspects were acquitted. .../... "

=> Haaretz, Feb 3, 2016 - First They Came for Turkey's Journalists, Then Their Academics

Roger G (148)
Thursday February 11, 2016, 11:17 am
Bravo Lucy..
noted, thanks
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