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As Seen From Afar 10/20/2016


World  (tags: Clinton, Debate #3, populist, Trump, Trump voter, World )

Lona
- 911 days ago - politicsplus.org
Donald Trump may be on his way out, but what about the Trump Voter?



   

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Roger G (148)
Thursday October 20, 2016, 10:14 am
noted, thanks
 

JL A (281)
Thursday October 20, 2016, 10:38 am
Thanks for the international news summary that bears attention even in the US. Wikileaks showed us that Clinton/her campaign wanted Trump to be the GOP nominee to run against...but she didn't reckon on dealing with the real problems of why he had so many supporters that point to policy needs she has yet to sufficiently address despite giving lip service to many of Sanders' issues that did partially address (it is the failed foreign policy aspects fueling the income inequality no major party candidate has tackled to date). Well done Lona.
 

Pat B (356)
Thursday October 20, 2016, 12:05 pm
Good to read about how other nations view the DT saga/campaign, with their input, and how it will be after the voting date.

Great article, and am passing this on too.

Thank you, Lona for this.
 

Ed Site Issues V (198)
Thursday October 20, 2016, 12:11 pm
Noted, Thanks
 

Barb SiteIssues V (202)
Thursday October 20, 2016, 12:46 pm
Noted, Thank you
 

Ted W (127)
Thursday October 20, 2016, 12:48 pm
Noted, forwarded and shared ultra-liberally! Many thanks for adding as seen from afar viewpoint! Thanks Lona!! :)
 

TomCat S (128)
Thursday October 20, 2016, 1:50 pm
Great perspectives, Lona. I commented more extensively at the site.
 

Joanne Dixon (37)
Thursday October 20, 2016, 1:58 pm
Thanks Lona – and of course you are right that Trump supporters were with us before Trump and they will be with us after he has gone. (I cringe ot call them populists because populist means to me someone who is for people, ALL people, and it it is clear they are not that, but I do see the thread there that makes them classifiable with Bernie supporters.) I do not, however, see Trump disappearing just because he is defeated. If he could, he would be a happier and a better man than he is; but he is addicted to attention, and that addiction, which has been lifelong, has been ratcheted up a notch by this campaign.He will become one of those people who has political power without holding any elected office, and he will whine, and whine, and whine some more for – well, probably for the rest of his life. Thank God he is seventy.

And all his followers, and a great many who are not his followers, are suffering from Hillary Derangement Syndrome. Like Obama Derangement Syndrome, it will make them less able or even unable to accept anything that she does as being any good at all. It makes Joss Whedon's Tweet look a lot less funny and a lot more likely. Transcript: "i don't trust Hillary i say LOCK HER UP in a room with NO CORNERS, a sort of oval room, then HARD LABOR running things for YEARS, maybe 8"
 

Mandi T (366)
Thursday October 20, 2016, 2:02 pm
Noted and ty Lona, and Ted for the forward.
 

Evelyn B (63)
Thursday October 20, 2016, 3:34 pm
Excellent - good to bring the other perspectives (and parallel situations) into the picture.
Thanks, Lona!
 

. (0)
Thursday October 20, 2016, 4:04 pm
Noted. The ones that see Trump as their hero are the uneducated and the so called left behind, plus those who are unhappy with the US not remaining white. They blame new immigrants for taking jobs and changing their culture. Interestingly, it's automation that has claimed 2/3 of jobs (mainly factory), and globalization 1/3 of jobs in the USA. The trend for automation to claim another 40% of white collar jobs in the coming years is also worrying, and it won't have the off set of what previously happened, with the demand for IT jobs. Globalization ends up bottoming out, due to those countries wages increasing, ie. note Japan. It is China now, then India and eventually it will be Africa.....until it runs out of poor countries to exploit. We are seeing now that there will never be enough jobs for all people, and the question is , "how do we make an equal and cohesive society in the face of that dilemma?" Thanks, Lona.
 

Animae C (508)
Thursday October 20, 2016, 4:13 pm
TY Lona
 

Sam H (410)
Thursday October 20, 2016, 5:17 pm
That's a very good point, Lona! Imagine the disappointment his supports will endure when they wake up and discover that there's no wall between Mexico and the US! But on the bright side, there will be no shrink left unemployed, for the emotional needs of Trump and his supporters will have to be attended to after such a devastating loss. FULL ENPLOYMENT FOR SHRINKS! And that's how America will be great again!
 

. (0)
Thursday October 20, 2016, 7:55 pm
There is a real concern that Trump supporters will not accept the results of the election. I only hope the 'lock & load' folk do not start a violent reaction towards other citizens or to Hillary herself. Trump has wound them up so much with lies, conspiracy theories and vote rigging stories, that I would be somewhat concerned, sadly. We will have to wait and see if sense prevails. Hopefully it will. Thanks, Lona.
 

Edith B (146)
Thursday October 20, 2016, 9:02 pm
Thanks, Lona.  This is a great article.  I agree with Hans Beerekamp.  Our media created him and have paid homage to him since the campaign started.  He is appealing to the disgruntled, dissatisfied voter who is unwilling to learn the facts and work to change the system.  I hope Hillary heeds the IMF when when she  is elected.  
 

Dawnie W (250)
Thursday October 20, 2016, 9:31 pm




❤️A very good article with snippets of how the world is thinking.❤️




❤️Thanking you kindly Lona for sharing this very interesting and important information❤️




💕💛ღ❤️Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ💕♥L💜ve, Hugs and Peace go with you all♥💕Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ❤️ღ💛💕
 

Danuta W (1251)
Friday October 21, 2016, 3:03 am
noted
 

Arielle S (313)
Friday October 21, 2016, 6:39 am
I do think a good many Americans are feeling just the same - what in the world would make anyone with a brain vote for Trump? I, for one, will not relax until it's over and Hillary is President....
 

Terrie Williams (798)
Friday October 21, 2016, 6:51 am
What ma peep, Arielle, said. The very last sentence of the article says it all, actually......Hillary will do well to heed the angry mod out here because after the Mussolini Wannabe is gone, they will still be there.
 

Gene J (287)
Friday October 21, 2016, 8:39 am
I can understand why other countries might feel a bit confused by what is happening here. But that 40% of Americans who favor him no matter what? That's a mirage, Lona. Those numbers aren't real. They never were. We don't have 40% Republicans in this country. There are some die hard Trump supporters but they are the lunatic fringe every country has. They are nowhere near 40% of us. The ultimate popular vote totals will prove that and hopefully put minds elsewhere at ease. There are die hard Hillary opponents, for lots of reasons, some of them rooted deeply in misogyny, just as a good bit of the always angry Obama opponents are deeply rooted racists (though they deny it as do the misogynists), but those are NOT 40% of our country.

Every poll on issues shows that roughly 2/3's of the country is at or near, or sometimes beyond, Hillary's positions. Republicans? No, they aren't. But they are dwindling in numbers with every election. And those Trump supporters are just plain haters, they'll crawl back under their rocks till next time, they aren't activists, they don't actually DO anything in support of their ideas except what Donald does, piss and moan and nothing else. Honestly, there is nothing to worry about IN or our out of this country. Trust me. They make a lot of noise but there aren't as many of them as people think. They are the noisy minority, and they have always existed, but never in the majority. And they never will be. Good people outnumber them 3 to 1 at minimum. And they always will.
 

Veerle D (153)
Friday October 21, 2016, 10:06 am
Thanks for sharing.
 

W. C (7)
Friday October 21, 2016, 10:49 am
Thank you.
 

Lona G (66)
Friday October 21, 2016, 10:59 am
I think you are right, Gene. But it's a little disturbing that all those polls come up with about the same percentages and that all the media - including ours - are just putting them out there without a second thought. It gives Drumpf voters an acknowledgement and legitimizes their Weltanschaung.

A few days after November 8 we'll know from the popular vote across America how big or small the percentage of Drumpf voters really is. It'll be interesting to find out how many million people voted for him compared to the millions who voted for Hillary.
 

Lenore K (0)
Friday October 21, 2016, 12:17 pm
ok
 

Birgit W (160)
Friday October 21, 2016, 1:41 pm
Noted.
 

Janet B (0)
Friday October 21, 2016, 2:26 pm
Thanks
 

pam w (139)
Friday October 21, 2016, 3:03 pm
Save us from the TRUMPSTERS.
 

Colleen L (3)
Friday October 21, 2016, 11:09 pm
Thanks Lona
 

Gene J (287)
Saturday October 22, 2016, 6:33 am
You're right, Lona. 11/9 will tell us a lot. I expect it to be one of our historically largest landslides ever. And we've had some big ones going all the way back to Dukakis and our own Walter Mondale running against Reagan for his second term. Despite what people say in response to polls (and some of those are just terribly worded - and so SMALL, I have NEVER in my entire life been polled) when it comes to issues, most, 2/3's or more want health care for all, abortion to remain legal and a woman's rights, gender equality, LGBT equality, pay equality and so much more. It is these broad, generic biased questions that draw out the crazies. But even there, when they get in the voting booth, they are voting on issues more than people. We aren't afraid, we aren't cowering like Trump says - yes there have been incidents, but nothing like what happens in Europe or the middle east apart from 9/11. There are fools here as there are everywhere but that isn't the majority of us. The popular vote will show that. I'm sure of it. :^)
 

Vivian B (169)
Saturday October 22, 2016, 11:28 am
Here's to hoping the crazies go back to their hopes on Nov. 9! :/
 

Janet B (0)
Saturday October 22, 2016, 8:06 pm
Thanks
 

Janet B (0)
Sunday October 23, 2016, 12:22 pm
Thanks
 

Trish K (29)
Sunday October 23, 2016, 3:24 pm
In China they would all vote for Trump. Hillary is to haughty because she uses her mothers name _ In The Middle _ and then his name. Those who in not so ancient times bound the feet of women for beauty or so that beauty couldn't get away ? Turn the Congress Blue - Vote Blue and be happy you did. One more nail in the coffin of the Red.
:voting is a secret ballot - you don't have to tell anyone who - just what you think they want to hear.
 

Debra G (0)
Sunday October 23, 2016, 9:45 pm
I dunno, 40% sounds right. After all, the average IQ is 100. Sooooo many people in economic pain without insight or understanding of macroeconomics or globalization. There always has and always will be job churn, but when it's your own job, all bets are off. I saw a coal miner being interviewed on tv. He wants Trump to restore the primacy of coal so his 2-year old grandson could go in the mines. What a thing to wish on a kid. No thoughts about the environment, new energy sources, etc., just bring back his once- good-paying job. Change is hard - Hillary will need all the help and goodwill she can get from Congress, so vote Progressive downticket.
 

Cyn F (137)
Monday October 24, 2016, 10:55 am
Thanks, Lona
 

Janet B (0)
Monday October 24, 2016, 12:25 pm
Thanks
 

Sheila D (28)
Monday October 24, 2016, 6:53 pm
Sometimes it's hard to see what's right in front of us. Those who live in the same place, never travel, and have had the same job as their fathers and mothers have no perspective on the world, much less on how their lives will be affected negatively if DT is elected. The biggest complaint I can pull out of those I know on the Right about HIllary is that she isn't (and never was) a stay-at-home mother. Men AND women say this. It's good to know how the rest of the world sees us, but it's next to impossible to get people to change how they feel and think. Thanks for the post, Lona.
 

Kay M (46)
Monday October 24, 2016, 10:00 pm
Good evening and thank you for this article - which I read and noted- just because we defeat trump on nov.8th,2016 that does not mean we can get rid of his voters ---THE KKK-WHITE NAZI- SKIN HEADS- AND ALT RIGHT MEMBERS---that easy- they will just go back underground AND JOIN TRUMPS tv show on face book ALONG with rioger allies-steve bannon- rudy G- chris Christy- ben carson- hannityt -from fox news- sincerely KAY M.
 

Margie FOURIE (148)
Tuesday October 25, 2016, 12:45 am
Thank you
 

Lenore K (0)
Tuesday October 25, 2016, 4:05 pm
ok
 

Lenore K (0)
Saturday October 29, 2016, 12:45 pm
ok
 

Janet B (0)
Sunday October 30, 2016, 1:04 pm
Thanks
 

Hartson Doak (39)
Sunday October 30, 2016, 2:01 pm
I find it interesting about this "I will build a great wall." statement. There is already a 600 mile wall in place. Why doesn't someone point this out? Mr Trump makes it sound like it is a new idea of his.
 

David C (78)
Sunday October 30, 2016, 2:54 pm
DON'T GET COMPLACENT, GET OUT AND VOTE.....SEND TRUMP BACK TO HIS BUSINESS AND BANKRUPTCIES
 

Lenore K (0)
Wednesday November 2, 2016, 1:38 pm
ok
 
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