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The Episcopal chaplain at Yale University has resigned just over a week after he wrote a letter to The New York Times ascribing blame for rising anti-Semitism in Europe to Israel.


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Sam H (410)
Tuesday September 9, 2014, 10:48 am
This is his letter:

To the Editor:

Deborah E. Lipstadt makes far too little of the relationship between Israelís policies in the West Bank and Gaza and growing anti-Semitism in Europe and beyond.

The trend to which she alludes parallels the carnage in Gaza over the last five years, not to mention the perpetually stalled peace talks and the continuing occupation of the West Bank.

As hope for a two-state solution fades and Palestinian casualties continue to mount, the best antidote to anti-Semitism would be for Israelís patrons abroad to press the government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for final-status resolution to the Palestinian question.

Groton, Conn., Aug. 21, 2014

. (0)
Tuesday September 9, 2014, 11:07 am
the (so-clled) "rise in anti-semitism(*)" is mostly (and quite deliberate on behlaf of UsraHell('s PTB -- may they soon become (an embarrassing page in the book of) history!) i'd venture) due to conflating / equating critique of israel('s policies, cruelty and crimes) with "anti-semitism"

*) please don't miss the ultra-oxy-morony of prevalent usage !
" I still believe that it is no more anti-Semitic to oppose Jewish supremacism than it is anti-Italian to oppose the mafia. " -- Dr. David Duke ((former chief-boohoo of KKK, which whose statement i (nevertheless) couldn't agree more))
On Sept4, 2013 California adopted H.R. 35, which defines criticism of Israel as anti-Semitic.
" 'Anti-Semite' used to mean a man who hated Jews. Now it means a man who is hated BY [certain] Jews." -- Joseph Sobran (1946-2010)


Kathleen Mireault (211)
Tuesday September 9, 2014, 12:00 pm
Noted. Thanks for posting, Sam. Opposing Israeli Government policies and IDF thuggery is not anti-semitism. Period.

Lona G (66)
Tuesday September 9, 2014, 12:04 pm
Well, the title of the article you posted, Sam, doesn't help much either, does it: "Yale Chaplain Resigns Over Letter Blaming Israel for Anti-Semitism". His letter clearly doesn't blame Israel for anti-Semitism, he merely notes there is a trend that correlates carnage in Gaza and the most effective way to curb it is for more pressure on Netanyahu to find a peaceful solution.

By pointing out Israel's role, i.e. daring to criticize it, he has the tables turned on him and he is cast as being anti-Semitic himself. Now where have we seen this before?

Angelika R (143)
Tuesday September 9, 2014, 3:28 pm
".. loss of hope among Palestinians "and the continuation of annexation policies in the West Bank have some relation to the deplorable anti-Semitic crimes that we deplore."
I SECOND THAT! Not just "some"either, THANK you Rev.Shipman! One man who understands. His letter was short and polite, calling reason and naming facts! We're so glad your "toxic words" have been distributed in over 1,000,000 newspapers and preserved for eternity in the digital world !!

"As Jews, we do not always need to press the panic button, but we must sound the alarm so the international community takes heed of the acute nature of this growing and disturbing problem."


Yes, correct Mr Troodler, please do sound the alarm, BUT PLEASE FOR THE REAL problem as addressed by Rev. Shipman
THx Sam for another great post!
sounds to me as if his resignation was not entirely voluntary..., if so, again Dr Masri's words ring in, cademic boycott where and when needed.


Angelika R (143)
Tuesday September 9, 2014, 3:41 pm
Although I do agree there are growing anti-semitic trends which I deplore, I suppose for many of those it is their own way of stone throwing in protest, not really directed at jews, but at policy.

Evelyn B (63)
Tuesday September 9, 2014, 3:55 pm
While some groups within Israel can be very unpleasant towards those who criticise the State of Israel - there is little doubt that there is more space allowed for criticism there than in many communities within the US. What Shipman said - and for which he has been pressurised - people are saying in Israel . Uri Avenry has made this point in his articles more than once - Gideon Levy has done so, too. Don't have references to hand - but some such articles from within Israel HAVE been posted on C2NN

Current policies, strategies & actions of the State of Israel sadden, disappoint & increasingly disgust people who expect greater tolerance & integrity from a people who have themselves so often been victims of discrimination .... But the State, the pro-Zionists & the extremist settlers throw up that sand in the eyes "Anti-Semitic" labels for those who DARE criticise ... The attitudes of those who insist on presenting Israel as always in the right (i.e. free to act with impunity) create an environment where they lump the anti-zionists, the anto-Israeli Government and the really anit-semitic (Jew haters & Arab haters) ... allowing the last group to hide themselves among the many who do NOT hate Jews ... but DO hate Israeli government & extreme right policies, strageties & actions ... And are VERY clear about the difference

Brave man, Rev Shipman, and paying the price for it. I hope that he realises that his position coincides with that of a number of very admirable Israelis

Carol French (121)
Tuesday September 9, 2014, 5:36 pm
Better now than never,that the Episopal chaplain of Yale would resign now. After he wrote the letter if Hate & all!!

Rose Becke (141)
Tuesday September 9, 2014, 6:29 pm
Well said Evelyn

Maria Teresa Schollhorn (42)
Tuesday September 9, 2014, 11:31 pm
Noted. Thanks for sharing Sam.

Evelyn B (63)
Wednesday September 10, 2014, 2:41 am
Carol - if you confuse "Jewish" with policies of the Israeli State (or is you consider the terms as interchangeable), you will inevitably interpret this as "hate"; reread his text with the awareness that the State's policies, strategies & actions are political - not religious - and you might realise that there is not hate there - but deep concern that such politics can (and does) also feed real anti-Semitism, which is not good for Israel and is not good for humanity.

Anti-Zionism is a political stance - not a racist stance against the Jewish people. It is a political stance taken by Jews as well as non-Jews. Several Israeli authors have made strong statements that the Zionist extremist policies & strategies may become the primary factor of a failure of the Israeli State ... And they express the same concern about this.

Carol French (121)
Thursday September 11, 2014, 8:20 am
Well here I am again people , I don't believe in Anti-Semitism, I do believe that you don't put politics & religion together. Shipman got fired I think because he did just that & told the truth while he was at it.
Disregard my first submission please!!!

Angelika R (143)
Thursday September 11, 2014, 8:27 am
Carol, he did not "get fired", as you correctly said in first comment, he resigned. But, as I implied above, the truth may well be somewhere in the middle...
I am glad you acknowledge that religion nd poolitics should never be put together. But that is precisely what the Zionist state has been doing.

Sheryl G (359)
Thursday September 11, 2014, 9:59 am
Shipman claimed in an email to the newspaper that he was not trying to rationalize anti-Semitism, but was saying the loss of hope among Palestinians "and the continuation of annexation policies in the West Bank have some relation to the deplorable anti-Semitic crimes that we deplore."

He hit the nail on the head. No one, in good conscious, wants attacks on other people, but to understand why this is happening is to in fact go to the root and understand why. Why is this rise happening now. As a man of faith I think he searched for the correct words, if you do not want this continuation of Anti-Semitic acts then it must factor in various ongoing events that are taking place currently. One has to look at how others are being treated and if that is causing the rise of hate.

That others fail to see that, because he points out the blemish that is festering as to what is leading to the sickness that is most unfortunate. I think he showed love and caring for all, that others did not or do not see that is something they need to deal with and to check inside their hearts.

I'm sure he'll find a spot to welcome him at some future point. That he removed himself from the facility is in fact another act of love. A place that he served he did not want to be negatively affected by what his heart had spoke to him to say. A true these troubled waters many do not see it.

Gary L (138)
Thursday September 11, 2014, 1:37 pm
god forbid if you tell the truth about the murderous rabble who run Israel the truth will set you free but first it will expose the Jewish people who are nothing but bigots and accomplice's to murder and war crimes

John D (50)
Thursday September 11, 2014, 1:56 pm
I for one do not agree with what Isreal has done and continues to do; does that make me anti-semitic?

Thursday September 11, 2014, 3:11 pm
Noted & shared. Thanks Sam

Kate Kenner (215)
Thursday September 11, 2014, 4:19 pm
I have to agree with Shipman. Disagreeing with Israel is not anti-Semitic but what Israel has been doing gives the anti-Semites of the work an excuse to carry out their acts of hatred. Why blame Just Israel when you can blame the whole Jewish population no matter where they live? Anti-Semitism has been around for as long as there have been Jews and sadly it will be around until way after I am gone. No matter what Israel does (and I do not condone much of what they have done and as a Jew am extremely disappointed in them) but they must have the right to exist and they have been fighting for their existence since the UN took the land from the Palestinians in 1948. Sadly they seem to have gotten no blame for their part in all this.

Carol French, what do you mean you do not agree with anti-Semitism? Do you think it doesn't exist or you don't condone it? It was an oddly put statement.

Past Member (0)
Friday September 12, 2014, 4:21 am
Gary A L.
"but first it will expose the Jewish people who are nothing but bigots and accomplice's to murder and war crimes"

That comes across as totally bigoted in its own right. You are lumping all Jewish people together and passing judgement on the group of people around the world based on religion

Past Member (0)
Friday September 12, 2014, 8:57 am
To be against violence and hatred does not mean you are against a certain culture or religion. It means you are against violence....period!!

Jamie Clemons (282)
Friday September 12, 2014, 9:05 am

Angelika R (143)
Friday September 12, 2014, 1:14 pm
@ Lorna and Gary -I too stumbled over that remark but, knowing Gary, what I think he meant to say would be " these/those Jewish ..etc" referring to those responsible for the crimes and/or support them. Hope I'm right.

Debra G (0)
Friday September 12, 2014, 9:55 pm
No, I think Gary meant the Jews. If he meant the Israeli government, which includes Christians and Muslims, the comment would show ignorance. As written, it shows the depth of hatred for the Jewish people. Hating the government of a country usually is demonstrated by protesting at embassies or burning flags. What we're seeing world-wide are synagogues bombed, cemeteries desecrated, heritage museums attacked, and people on the street murdered for being (or suspected of being) Jewish. That is anti-Semitism.

Gary L (138)
Saturday June 13, 2015, 9:18 am
Debra you're just another troll no profile just lies I DO NOT HATE ANYONE BECAUSE OF Their Religion just those who hide behind it to justify their crimes not all Jews are the problem in fact it's really only a few big mouths just as all blacks aren't criminals and on and on please don't try to think for me Debra you're not smart enough
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