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It's Time for Israel to Face the Music

World  (tags: Israel, crimes, against, humanity, war, Hague, ICC, International, criminal, court, Palestine )

- 1496 days ago -
The prosecutor of the International Criminal Court launched a preliminary probe that could clear the way for a full-scale investigation into possible war crimes in Palestinian territories -- plunging the court into this politically charged conflict.


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David C (80)
Friday January 16, 2015, 10:12 am
yes, but then so should the other side, too. however, it should be done in an unbiased (ha-ha) setting........

Sam H (410)
Friday January 16, 2015, 10:17 am
Of course, Dave. Usually those with blood on their hands are the ones who resist submitting to the rule of law.

Carol R (11)
Friday January 16, 2015, 10:48 am
Thanks Sam. The Palestinians are well aware of possible investigations into Hamas crimes as the article stated, but they joined the ICC anyway. The right thing to do but Israel and US are against this... a little hypocritical I'd say in the democracy, human rights and freedom departments they say they so strongly support. And maybe some fear (guilt) of having the fingers pointed back at them. Is that why neither belong to the ICC perhaps?

JL A (281)
Friday January 16, 2015, 10:49 am
Let us hope that it leads to improved human rights for and by all parties. Thanks Sam.

Maria Teresa Schollhorn (42)
Friday January 16, 2015, 11:14 am
Yes, it is time.
Noted. Thanks Sam.

Sandrea S (278)
Saturday January 17, 2015, 9:51 am
Sam, you could have warned about the graphic (scary) photo!!! Lol.

Sam H (410)
Saturday January 17, 2015, 10:59 am
If Hamas, the terrorist organization, is choosing to abide by the rule of law, what other criminals are still opting to be above the law?

Hamas welcomes ICC inquiry into Israeli-Palestinian conflict

Kathleen Mireault (210)
Saturday January 17, 2015, 11:20 am
War criminals everywhere on Earth should be held accountable for their actions, including the USA. Thanks, Sam.

Rose Becke (141)
Saturday January 17, 2015, 3:44 pm
I agree with JLA

Evelyn B (63)
Saturday January 17, 2015, 4:41 pm
Hamas has clearly stated their willingness to be investigated in this process. They admit to not being "squeaky clean" - but still want a full impartial investigation.

The irony is that the two countries boasting of their model democracies are the two doing their best (through threats & blackmail) to force the Palestinians to back down on the ICC! Might one ask "why" without having the "antisemitic" bullet fired yet again????

Angelika R (143)
Saturday January 17, 2015, 5:28 pm
The interesting part is the date here, note the court's jurisdiction begins on July 13, one day after the three teens were murdered.
A preliminary examination does not automatically have to lead into an investigation, but we certainly hope it will!

Angelika R (143)
Saturday January 17, 2015, 5:39 pm
Here's from Ms Bensouda:

Today, Friday, 16 January 2015, the Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court (ICC), Mrs. Fatou Bensouda, opened a preliminary examination into the situation in Palestine.

The Prosecutor's decision follows the Government of Palestine's accession to the Rome Statute on 2 January 2015 and its declaration of 1 January 2015, lodged under article 12(3) of the Rome Statute – the Court's founding treaty – accepting the jurisdiction of the ICC over alleged crimes committed "in the occupied Palestinian territory, including East Jerusalem, since June 13, 2014."

Upon receipt of a referral or a valid declaration made pursuant to article 12(3) of the Statute, the Prosecutor, in accordance with Regulation 25(1)(c) of the Regulations of the Office of the Prosecutor, and as a matter of policy and practice, opens a preliminary examination of the situation at hand. Accordingly, the Prosecutor has opened a preliminary examination into the situation in Palestine. The Office will conduct its analysis in full independence and impartiality.

A preliminary examination is not an investigation but a process of examining the information available in order to reach a fully informed determination on whether there is a reasonable basis to proceed with an investigation pursuant to the criteria established by the Rome Statute. Specifically, under article 53(1) of the Rome Statute, the Prosecutor must consider issues of jurisdiction, admissibility and the interests of justice in making this determination. The Office gives due consideration to all submissions and views conveyed to the Office during the course of a preliminary examination, strictly guided by the requirements of the Rome Statute in the independent and impartial exercise of its mandate.

There are no timelines provided in the Rome Statute for a decision on a preliminary examination. Depending on the facts and circumstances of each situation, the Office will decide whether to continue to collect information to establish a sufficient factual and legal basis to render a determination; initiate an investigation, subject to judicial review as appropriate; or decline to initiate an investigation.

For full press release go to (But the rest is just explanation of legal background why a declaration under article 12(3) could be lodged now and not earlier.)


Angelika R (143)
Saturday January 17, 2015, 5:46 pm
Best of luck in collecting evidence! Not exactly an easy task with one side not cooperating... let's hope the prosecutor's office will receive lots of additional information from outside parties!

Angelika R (143)
Saturday January 17, 2015, 6:06 pm
To my knowledge the EU has not yet put Hamas back on its blacklist after the group was removed from the terrorist list in mid December on procedural grounds, perhaps another small plus added at the current time.

Warren Webber (26)
Sunday January 18, 2015, 4:42 am
Live long and prosper!

Angelika R (143)
Sunday January 18, 2015, 4:56 am
As the threats by Bibi toward the Palestinians if they'd dare joining the ICC have been mentioned above, threats we all know of, I am really wondering if now, after the court actually did open a preliminary examination, very likely putting Israel under some more srcutiny,-at least from the world's eyes, if not by the prosecutor who has other tasks-, now will there actually BE any retaliation to fill those threats with action????

This to me seems more unlikely now but then, one never knows what the twisted mind of a hard-line campaigner might come up with around election time.

Janis K (129)
Sunday January 18, 2015, 9:00 am
Thanks for sharing.

Angelika R (143)
Sunday January 18, 2015, 11:25 am
Israel lobbies foreign powers to cut ICC funding

:-) ..something I am sure Ms Bensouda will not be very pleased to hear... that's how one keeps digging their own grave and some are just mastering that

Sam H (410)
Sunday January 18, 2015, 12:55 pm
And Lieberman is using a very diplomatic language to do so!

“We will demand of our friends in Canada, in Australia and in Germany simply to stop funding it.”

fly bird (26)
Sunday January 18, 2015, 1:24 pm
Thanks Sam.
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Carrie B (306)
Sunday January 18, 2015, 1:29 pm
Why is so difficult for some to understand that war crimes were committed on both sides. The assertion that blame is all one sided is ludicrous! Israel and Palestine both need to take responsibility for their actions.

fly bird (26)
Sunday January 18, 2015, 2:35 pm
There is no equivalence - Israel started it's aberrant oppression and forced displacement of Palestinians, decades ago, with the Nakba, and has continued racist policies, violating he human rights of Palestinians, ever since.
There have been 'disproportional' , brutal attacks on Palestinians in Gaza, 3x in 6 years - causing almost complete destruction of the infrastructure, hospitals, schools, etc, and the massacre od thousands, including children. These are crimes against humanity.
The siege on Gaza for years, now, is designed to suffocate and destroy Gazans.
There is much more going on, and that has happened, over many years of gross violations of International Laws and the laws of war, in Gaza, and in OPT.

The illegal occupation for decades, also chokes Palestinians. Excessive force and abuses/violations of administrative detention and crimes against Palestinian children, continue, daily.

Resistance is not terrorism. Apartheid policies of disenfranchisement and dispossession, as in South Africa, under Israeli governments, and Netanyahu, are the cause of the conflict - and the injustices and indignities heaped on Palestinians for almost 7 decades.

As Mandela said, there is no freedom without the freedom of Palestinians.

Israel is an oppressive, apartheid state. Israelis, typically, are protected. Palestinians are persecuted, harassed and abused, in their own lands, lorded over by Israeli repression and control, in every malevolent, conceivable way.
The occupation must end. The apartheid regime must be boycotted, the Israeli lobby and Jewish lobby must be exposed, and America must stop funding Israeli the illegal occupation, settlement building, and Israeli forces' aggressions and violations on civilians.

The Palestinians have no army. The Israeli militaryis one of the largest, thanks to U.S. tax dollars. Take back America and put the tax dollars, where they belong - support American families and economy, not Israel.
Israeli occupation has to go.

Americans do not work to subsidize continuous, ongoing, Israeli state crimes against disenfranchised Palestinians. WAKE UP AMERICA
Funding the Nazis would have been,no better....

UN Rights Expert Cancels Trip to Palestine after Visa Denied by Israel - January 17, 2015

An official visit by a UN expert on violence against women was cancelled Friday, after Israeli authorities refused to give her a visa which would allow entry into Palestine.

According to Ma'an News Agency, the UN Special Rapporteur on violence against women, its causes, and consequences, Rashida Manjoo, had been invited on a fact-finding mission by the Palestinian Authority to "obtain first-hand understanding of issues related to violence against women" from Jan. 19-29, 2015.

However, all travel in and out of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip is controlled by Israel, and authorities there refused to give her a visa, a statement from the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights revealed.

"For the past six weeks, I have repeatedly sought the cooperation of the government of Israel to facilitate access to the occupied Palestinian territory for me to undertake this visit. Regrettably, I did not receive the necessary support, including a visa by the Government of Israel, ahead of my travel, which is scheduled for tomorrow," Manjoo said in the statement.

"It is unfortunate that I have been denied the opportunity to engage directly with women survivors of violence, and that the exercise of my mandate has been hindered by the unwillingness of the government of Israel, as the occupying power, to facilitate access to the occupied Palestinian territory."

"My intention, as per practice during my country visits, was to support the Palestinian Authority to strengthen its capacity to protect and promote women's rights and to meet its international human rights obligations," she continued.

"The program of the visit included meetings with Palestinian officials, law enforcement agents, representatives of civil society organisations and survivors of violence in different locations. It also included visits to prisons, refugee camps and shelters for women survivors of violence, among others."

Despite Israel's refusal to give her a visa, Manjoo said in the statement that she was still "interested in visiting the occupied Palestinian territory," calling upon "Israel as the occupying power, to facilitate access to the territory," Ma'an further reports.

Israel regularly denies visas and refuses entry to those it deems sympathetic to the Palestinian cause, but it relatively rare for authorities to target international representatives with the policy.

In November, Israeli authorities banned the Colombian foreign minister from visiting the West Bank after discovering that she did not plan to meet with Israeli officials as well.

The case came shortly after Norwegian doctor Mads Gilbert, who has famously worked in Gaza hospitals throughout Israeli bombardments, announced that he had banned by Israel from ever returning.

Sarah Dyson (139)
Sunday January 18, 2015, 3:37 pm
I guess this is a time for all the dirty laundry to be aired. Ben and Angelia said it good. Now I wonder if Bibi will be at the front of another peace march.

Angelika R (143)
Sunday January 18, 2015, 4:01 pm
LOL Sam, I assume the response-IF ANY- he will recieve would be equally diplomatic, both in words and nature. If ear there isn't anyone in our govt with enough guts to tell him STFU ..

Angelika R (143)
Sunday January 18, 2015, 4:17 pm
Ths Jessfor reminding us all here just how very cooperative the Jewish state is when it comes to investigations, and that is not even on their own state.
No entry= no investigation= no information= impeded preliminary examination=stayed or no opening of prosecution....

Justin Vale (13)
Sunday January 18, 2015, 5:09 pm
this is abut yesterday. today and tomorrow are not about bibi. southern lebanon will soon explode. the zionist are going in. hezbollah has been raped and left for dead by isis and their vulture masters are not about to take advantage of the free feast. islamic resistance is not there to defend hezbollah like in 06. the zionist is gonna come knocking. the icc should wait a little. a bunch of new charges can be added if they do.

Justin Vale (13)
Sunday January 18, 2015, 5:12 pm
they already did. they just killed a bunch of them in syria.

fly bird (26)
Monday January 19, 2015, 4:47 am

Angelika R (143)
Monday January 19, 2015, 9:22 am
Thx jess. He and we still have that dream.. sadly, to come true seems further today than ever before .
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