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Sam
- 1331 days ago - ft.com
Pension funds across the US could soon be forced to withdraw money from companies perceived to have boycotted Israel if a legislative initiative under way in the state of Illinois gains traction.



   

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Sam H (410)
Monday June 1, 2015, 5:42 pm
Boycotting South Africa was legal, but boycotting Israel is NOT!
 

Sam H (410)
Monday June 1, 2015, 5:42 pm
Boycotting Israel is illegal, but boycotting the conscientious boycotters of Israel IS NOT!
 

Sam H (410)
Monday June 1, 2015, 5:43 pm
It’s not enough that we’re squandering our wealth to support apartheid Israel, now Israel is taking away our own freedom.
 

Sam H (410)
Monday June 1, 2015, 5:43 pm
Not only is Israel robbing us, but it’s RUINING our way of life.
 

Sam H (410)
Monday June 1, 2015, 5:44 pm
Israel now controls us the same way it controls the Palestinians.
 

Sam H (410)
Monday June 1, 2015, 5:44 pm
When did Israel annex the United State?
 

Sam H (410)
Monday June 1, 2015, 5:45 pm
Enough is enough! We’re up in arms when the government forces us to buy health insurance. Where’s that rebellious spirit when the government takes away our freedom of speech and our freedom to invest our money anyway we damn please?
 

Sam H (410)
Monday June 1, 2015, 5:45 pm
Our way of life, our cherished ideals have no BIGGER ENEMY than ISRAEL.
 

Sam H (410)
Monday June 1, 2015, 5:45 pm
We did not fight to escape the tyranny of kings to subjugate ourselves to the tyranny of thugs!
 

Sam H (410)
Monday June 1, 2015, 5:49 pm
US pension funds to divest from Israel boycotters

Madison Marriage and John Reed

ft.com

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Pension funds across the US could soon be forced to withdraw money from companies perceived to have boycotted Israel if a legislative initiative under way in the state of Illinois gains traction.

Last month, Illinois became the first US state to pass a bill banning the state’s five pension funds from investing in companies that boycott Israel.

The bill is widely considered an attempt to undermine the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement, which calls for investors to pull money from companies it believes are complicit in violating Palestinian rights.

Some BDS resolutions and activists advocate a blanket boycott of Israel; others only of companies and institutions linked to Jewish settlements in the West Bank and east Jerusalem, which most of the outside world sees as illegal and an obstacle to peace.

While a growing number of European pension funds have blacklisted several Israeli companies due to their operations in the occupied Palestinian territories, it seems increasingly unlikely that their US counterparts will adopt a similar stance.

Israel’s government has been discussing ways of fighting the challenge from BDS since at least February 2014, when a government meeting was held at which ministers discussed tactics including legal action against institutions that boycott settlements or Israeli companies connected to them.

In addition to the Illinois legislation, some members of the US Congress — where support for Israel is strong — are seeking to append anti-BDS provisions to a free-trade agreement with the EU now under negotiation.

Stephen Tamari, associate professor at the Southern Illinois University Edwardsville, who focuses on the Middle East and Islam, believes other US states will follow Illinois’ lead and prohibit their pension funds from investing in companies deemed to have boycotted Israel.

He says: “I think this is probably the beginning of a wave of these bills. Very few US politicians will do anything that smacks of being anti-Israeli. The boycott movement, even though I do not think it has made a dent economically or politically for Israel, has people scared.”

Mr Tamari doubts whether many companies will be affected by such bills in practice. He says: “I do not know of any company that boycotts Israel. I think it is just a different way of attacking the BDS movement outside the court of public opinion, squelching debate about the boycott movement and making it seem like this is anti-semitism.”

Jeff Houch, senior public service administrator at the State Retirement Systems of Illinois, agrees that other states are likely to introduce similar legislation. “The intent of the sponsors [of the bill] and of the governor of Illinois [is that] this will serve as a model for other states to follow, and I am sure some states will take a look at it,” he says.

Mr Houch is also uncertain, however, about which companies could be affected.

The bill prohibits state pension funds from investing in companies deemed to be “engaging in actions that are politically motivated and intended to penalise, inflict economic harm on or otherwise limit commercial relations with the state of Israel, or companies based in the state of Israel, or in territories controlled by the state of Israel”.

Danish financial institution Danske Bank is one of the few known examples of a company that has divested from Israeli companies on ethical grounds. Last year, Danske added Bank Hapoalim, Israel’s largest bank, to its exclusion list on the basis that the bank was “involved in activities in conflict with international humanitarian law”.

Danske’s decision followed that of PGGM, the Dutch pension fund, to drop its holdings in five of Israel’s biggest banks due to their financing of Israeli settlements in the occupied Palestinian territories.

An independent board comprising seven individuals — four selected by the Illinois governor and three selected by the state pension funds — will be responsible for putting together a list of companies deemed to have boycotted Israel by April of next year.

The board will then write to those companies and provide them with 90 days notice to reverse their stance or risk losing investment from the state pension funds.

Omar Barghouti, a human-rights activist and co-founder of the BDS movement, appears unconcerned by the legal developments in Illinois, which some academics have dubbed “lawfare”.

“Israel’s legal warfare against the BDS movement reflects its failure to date in hampering the accelerating growth of BDS, especially in the US where its impact counts the most,” he says.
 

Sam H (410)
Monday June 1, 2015, 5:54 pm
I usually don't post whole articles, but this one was hard to read any other way.
 

Cheryl Aaron (18)
Monday June 1, 2015, 6:14 pm
This is the case for treason. Israel is a foreign country. Our dealings with them is against our best interest. Anytime that an American elected official threatens to sanction American companies, non-profits, educational institutions, individual small businesses, etc., in support of a foreign country is treason. Thank you, Sam...peace.
 

Past Member (0)
Monday June 1, 2015, 6:42 pm
Sam again attached a fake and provocative Pallywood cartoon to replace the original photo of the article, and replaced the title of the article. The cartoon, like always, is of the highest quality and is expensive to make. But Arabs never spared expenses on propaganda, thanks to US Aid money, UNWRA money, EU Aid and Arab states Aid.

Islamic Dawah promoters often use the tactic of placing highly provocative professionally made cartoons to cheat those, who does not have time to check things properly.

After knowing the level of their effort, a person who made 11 sequential posts arguing with himself to promote this article does not look imbecile, but rather determined to achieve "a great victory" in his Internet Jihad.
 

Past Member (0)
Monday June 1, 2015, 8:38 pm
Like Earl says--the Media is a huge problem. Jewish votes are also a necessity 4 most elections. thx Sam
 

Evelyn B (63)
Monday June 1, 2015, 11:51 pm
Natasha - apparently there is considerable difference between the Jewish votes and the Israel Lobby - exist polls after elections suggest that AIPAC is supported by a relatively small proportion of Jews .... BUT - those supporting AIPAC include most who have the $$$$ & power (and interests) ... AIPAC is NOT the voice of American Jews as a whole.

Sam - do I gather that it is fine to boycott those who boycott products of the settlements ?
Fine to boycott anything except that which touches Israel - so it's officially fine to be racist against Palestinians & their rights?
Are we allowed to bocott those who boycott those who boycott human rights????
 

Maria Teresa Schollhorn (42)
Tuesday June 2, 2015, 1:32 am
Noted. Thank you Sam.
 

Angelika R (143)
Tuesday June 2, 2015, 3:51 am
And you though Canada's hate speech law probably to come was bad....
Thanks Sam. Keep em coming so that EVERY American understands the result of that reassessment of US-Israel relationship! Step by step.
 

Sam H (410)
Tuesday June 2, 2015, 5:51 am
You packed two lies into one sentence.

Lie No. 1: Characterizing exposing Israel's undue influence on our country as anti-Semitism;

Lie No. 2: Pretending to know what Care2 does on a daily basis when your membership in Care2 is barely a day old. NOT EVEN!
 

Angelika R (143)
Tuesday June 2, 2015, 5:55 am
I thought you might welcome back our zombie kittie, didn't you say before that you missed her, Sam?
Husband again? ;)
 

Sam H (410)
Tuesday June 2, 2015, 6:03 am
But that was 43 years ago! If it worked for Bernie, it should work for me!
 

Angelika R (143)
Tuesday June 2, 2015, 7:27 am
lol; got your point.(though it was only about 2 weeks ago;) )

Mr Tamari is right thinking this is the beginning of a wave of such bills. Groundwork for that is being done, like with this legislation here in TN :
Tennessee legislature first in nation to approve anti-BDS measure

Language has also been expanded to include "anti-Zionist" propaganda, not just anti-semitism.
 

Angelika R (143)
Tuesday June 2, 2015, 7:33 am
Pretty much of the same here in INDIANA'S Anti-BDS Bill
"The Indiana bill contends that the global spread of anti-Jewish speech and violence “represents an attack, not only on Jews, but on the fundamental principles of the United States.”
??HUH, where's the violence in a peaceful BDS movement??
 

Angelika R (143)
Tuesday June 2, 2015, 7:53 am
While the Financial Times kept the wording neutral business style, the WaPo ran a pretty bias piece on the subject
Illinois passes historic anti-BDS bill, as Congress mulls similar moves
 

Sam H (410)
Tuesday June 2, 2015, 7:56 am
Thanks Angelika for another disturbing illustration of how Israel and its supporters control every aspect of our political life.

But then what do you expect from a resolution sponsored by a Ham and a Butt? Can’t really be kosher!
BDS must be as “deeply damaging to the causes of peace, justice, equality, democracy, and human rights for all peoples in the Middle East” as boycotts of South Africa were damaging to the people who suffered under apartheid.

It’s very telling that Palestinians don’t figure anywhere in that resolution!

P.S. This pertains to the Tennessee resolution. Haven’t read the Indiana one yet.
 

Sam H (410)
Tuesday June 2, 2015, 8:15 am
I really fear that if such efforts continue, they would give rise to "real" anti-Semitism.

Such a rise in anti-Semitism will play into the hands of extreme Zionists. Just note how Netanyahu, after the murder of innocent Jews in France, wasted no time to invite the French Jews to pack up and leave.

What could be more anti-Semitic than to suggest that Jews don't belong in France or anywhere else in the world?
 

Angelika R (143)
Tuesday June 2, 2015, 9:40 am
Many share that fear wich cannot be ignored nor dismissed. But I'm beginning to wonder if that could be the intention of such efforts? After all, with extreme Zionism strenghtened, that would automatically strenghten the current Israeli government, giving it more power. As shaky as that coalition is set up, this may be urgently needed.
 

Janis K (129)
Tuesday June 2, 2015, 4:50 pm
Thanks for sharing.
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday June 2, 2015, 5:16 pm
What a cheer nonsense...
 

Sam H (410)
Tuesday June 2, 2015, 9:30 pm
This is worth 29 minutes and 29 seconds of your time!
 

Debra G (0)
Tuesday June 2, 2015, 10:35 pm
Frickin' amazing that
 

Debra G (0)
Tuesday June 2, 2015, 10:51 pm
Rest of post: amazing that less than 2% of the world's population demands such fealty. Is it the money? Pffft. Maybe 4 Jews in the top 60 of the world's billionaires. Do they control the media? Hardly - neither Rupert Murdoch nor Carlos Slim is Jewish. So what conspiratorial plan is in place?
 

Fiona Ogilvie (562)
Tuesday June 2, 2015, 11:07 pm
Yep.
 

fly b (26)
Tuesday June 2, 2015, 11:15 pm
A picture tells a thousand words - Cartoon, speaks volumes.

Thanks for sharing, Sam.
 

Evelyn B (63)
Wednesday June 3, 2015, 3:26 am
And people try to tell us that BDS doesn't work?????

Just think how much money has been (and is being) invested in getting boycotting & sanctions against BDS!! Even in building mechanisms against BDS into the TTIP & the TPP ....

That is proof that BDS is an effective non-violent means of resistance ...
 

Angelika R (143)
Wednesday June 3, 2015, 4:50 am
Yes Evelyn, money AND legislation. And the more they invest, the more effective BDS will become!
They just haven't grasped yet that they're looking like Don Quixote in their fighting.
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday June 3, 2015, 6:33 am
Debra, Arabs prefer to follow myths, rather than logic. That's why your questions will be left unanswered.

I like this discussion about BDS, when Israeli imports into Arab countries is at all time high. Sometimes I even think that BDS is an invention of Arab investors on how to make stock Israeli public companies cheaper.

 

Sam H (410)
Wednesday June 3, 2015, 9:16 am
I don’t know why we waste our time talking to those flunkies! But it’s interesting to note how lack of education when mixed with this much hatred can produce the type of creatures that roam the
streets of Livonia.

ARABIC LOGIC according to Stanford
Encyclopedia of Philosophy
.

Arabic logic is a philosophical tradition which has lasted from the mid-eighth century down to today. For many years, western study of Arabic logic tended to concentrate on the early parts of its history,
especially on the Greek antecedents of Arabic logic, and on the writings of the foundational philosophers, Alfarabi (d. 950), Avicenna (d. 1037) and Averroes (d. 1198). Recently, however, there have been
notable excursions beyond these areas of traditional concentration, and I make a special effort in this entry to mention the contributions of post-twelfth-century logicians to the philosophical resolution of
disputed points.

More RIGHT HERE.
 

John De Avalon (36)
Wednesday June 3, 2015, 1:36 pm
Bob: Re the inappropriate cartoon.
Geography is obviously not their strong point.
 

Sam H (410)
Wednesday June 3, 2015, 1:58 pm
This is what Encyclopedia Britannica says about geography:

“However, during western Europe’s Dark Ages, much of that wisdom was lost, but the study of geography—notably cartography—was nurtured in the Arab world.”

THE LINK
 

John De Avalon (36)
Wednesday June 3, 2015, 2:00 pm
And these are friends of Palestine???? The effect of the boycott is open to question. Even if it did achieve its objectives the only tangible results would be Palestinian workers losing their jobs, with they and their families becoming destitute.

The SodaStream factory is a classic case in point. The Palestinian workers were very happy to be working there. They were earning good money and enjoying a decent standard of living.
They got on well with their Israeli co-workers. Even when Hamas and the IDF were at each others throats in Gaza, life in the factory carried on as normal, in a spirit of peace and harmony.

Rather than a hate-inspired boycott, there needs to be investment in creating employment and economic prosperity for all. This would create a more moderate political stance and the framework for a two-nation solution and a lasting peace.

 

John De Avalon (36)
Wednesday June 3, 2015, 2:03 pm
Sam: The USA is not and never has been situated in the Indian Ocean.
 

Angelika R (143)
Wednesday June 3, 2015, 2:51 pm
Well now it is. A clear evidence how that big fat nazi -style boot has alredy deranged that country! With the next kick it might sink and drown.
 

. (0)
Wednesday June 3, 2015, 6:44 pm
It can't.
 

Roslyn M (32)
Thursday June 4, 2015, 2:47 am
Noted - this cannot be allowed to happen
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday June 4, 2015, 7:11 pm
No one can trust Sam on the materials he posts.

Besides attaching fake photos and titles, Sam just did a plain copyright violation. The image he attached was stolen from here: Image Stolen by Sam

I hope Care2 won't get in trouble for such things.

Angelika, you got it wrong again. The boot is NOT Nazi-style because Nazi's boots were much higher. You should learn more from a German culture when you claim you live in Germany, and not in Turkey.

The original descriptions under this boot say: "A worn boot is stepping on Planet Earth.", "Brown Boot", etc.


 

Sam H (410)
Thursday June 4, 2015, 7:41 pm
Sam’s sources are quite unreliable! He only relies on some scholarly work done at Stanford or published by the shady Encyclopedia Britannica or by that rag they refer to as the Financial Times!

None of that meets the standards of the Livonia nitwit.
 

Angelika R (143)
Friday June 5, 2015, 4:26 am
Let me rephrase then: (for the record, not to please Canadian/Livonia creatures)
The worn out zionist entity has deranged and reduced the USA in size and meaningfulness and is about to sink it in the polluted ocean.
 
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