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A Palestinian in Search of a Promised Land


Society & Culture  (tags: Israel, Palestine, Arabic, Hebrew, One-way, ticket, out, teaching, Illinois, life, Sayed, Kashua )

Sam
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Rose Becke (141)
Monday August 31, 2015, 3:44 am
Two weeks after Kashua’s commencement address, searchers discovered the bodies of the three kidnapped teen-agers in a mound of rocks in a field near Hebron. In Jerusalem, far-right protesters called on Jews to avenge the murders. Kashua watched the news, terrified. As far as he knew, there were only five Arabs living in Ramat Denya: him, Najat, and their three children. When air-raid sirens warned of incoming rockets from Gaza, Kashua sent his kids to the bomb shelter, but he stayed away, uneasy around his neighbors. One day, his teen-age daughter was pummelled with water bottles, apparently for being Arab.
FROM ARTICLE

Thanks Sam
 

Angelika R (143)
Monday August 31, 2015, 4:52 am
I'm afraid he's not going to find it, not there in Illinois and perhaps nowhere else.
What does "perve" mean? Can't find the word in a dictionary.
Thanks Sam for this very moving account of one family's fate, offering many deep insights.

After he came to his conclusion, most likely a correct one, bottom line: “I’m not coming back .... The lie I’d told my children about a future in which Arabs and Jews share the country equally was over.” he may, however, not have drawn another essential conclusion, why else would he still have the "Obama 2008" sticker on his car?
 

Evelyn B (63)
Monday August 31, 2015, 10:46 am
"Many Arabs, like Kashua, consider themselves both Palestinian and Israeli, a bifurcated identity that speaks to years of strife and longing. “People keep bringing up this question of ‘Would you want to live in a Palestinian state?’ ” Kashua told me. “Is there a Palestinian state? Where are its borders, exactly? What they’re asking is if you’d want to live behind a fence and be occupied. Of course not.”"

He explains clearly here why polls reflect Palestinian Israelis' answers about being part of a Palestinian State ... Who would opt to live behind a fence & be occupied?
 

Evelyn B (63)
Monday August 31, 2015, 10:50 am
Angie - did you mean "parve"? (not perve - which you wrote - & which is usually an abbreviation for "pervert", but which I don't see in the article)
I wonder if they wrote "parve" instead of "pareve"?
"Pareve" , I believe, is a colloquial tern for "neither one thing nor another"
 

Angelika R (143)
Monday August 31, 2015, 1:41 pm
Huh, you caught my typo...yes of course, 'parve'- sorry. I do know what perve means and now I also know what Parve means after a google search. Pareve and parve are the same. I would best describe it as 'neutral', yes.
Indeed a story well woth reading, refecting the disruption and inner conflict people like him have. Yet, also quite enjoyable reading bringing some smiles.
 

Maria Teresa Schollhorn (42)
Tuesday September 1, 2015, 12:43 am
Noted. Thanks for the article Sam.
 

fly bird (26)
Tuesday September 1, 2015, 7:52 am
Thanks, Sam, for sharing.
 

Evelyn B (63)
Tuesday September 1, 2015, 9:37 am
I'm glad C2NN's "hoover" is working well!
 

Angelika R (143)
Tuesday September 1, 2015, 10:28 am
Oh well, wtth today's news of that Police officer shot dead, though further north from him, I wonder what Kashua thinks of his exile home state now... For once it was not a black man killed but the other way round... or, to use this analogy, not a Palestinian but an IDF. Tragic nevertheless.
 

Darren Woolsey (218)
Tuesday September 1, 2015, 11:30 am
Seems humankind has many deep seated issues with identity. . .I wonder which is more deep rooted? Identity or territory, or are they inextricably linked?
 

Sam H (410)
Tuesday September 1, 2015, 1:08 pm
Under different circumstances, what Kashua was able to accomplish would have been quite fulfilling—mastering a new language and producing significant “literary” work in that language!

His mastery of Hebrew, however, came at the expense of foregoing his own language. “Arabic is a diglossic language, with literary and colloquial versions. Kashua, whose Arabic education ended when he enrolled in the Jerusalem academy, isn’t versed in the literary one.”

So, he is now reduced to teaching Hebrew to Jewish kids in Illinois so they can be better prepared when they emigrate to his homeland and become full-fledged citizens, something he could never hope to attain in spite of his many achievements and in spite of having been born there!

And in so doing, he’s no different than a Palestinian laborer who gets hired by the Israeli settlers to build their settlements on Palestinian land.
 

Sam H (410)
Tuesday September 1, 2015, 1:10 pm
“People keep bringing up this question of ‘Would you want to live in a Palestinian state?’ ” Kashua told me. “Is there a Palestinian state? Where are its borders, exactly? What they’re asking is if you’d want to live behind a fence and be occupied. Of course not.”

His answers may sound witty, but had Jews given the same answer to that question, there would have been no Israel. Such is the commitment of Kashua and a segment of the Palestinian population to a Palestinian state. What the Palestinians need is a Jewish-like commitment to their homeland without the bigotry and religious fanaticism they endure every day. Many possess that commitment. Unfortunately, Kashua is not one of them. If the rest of the Palestinians followed the Kashua model, they would be settling somewhere in the Midwest and Palestine would be reduced to a footnote in human history—a dream Netanyahu loses no time to bring to reality!
 

Fiona Ogilvie (562)
Tuesday September 1, 2015, 1:54 pm
Is there a Palestinian State? Well, are there Palestinians who lived in the land in which they were born? Do these Palestinians suffer at the hands of non-Palestinians to continue to live in the land in which they were born? Well

Sam, I want to tell you that I do not miss that picture of that guy that just keeps getting uglier and uglier .... which you include with many of your articles.

Thank you for this article in particular. Will forward on facebook and twitter.
 

JinnySITEISSUES L (33)
Tuesday September 1, 2015, 2:17 pm
My question is.....why do humans possess so much hate ? Is it because it is the strategy of power seeking political leaders to spew it? Thanks Sam!
 

Angelika R (143)
Tuesday September 1, 2015, 3:06 pm
Sam, excellent observation in your first comment above and sadly, accurate conclusion!
As for your second comment, I'd ask can you tell us who e.g. you're referring to with "Many possess that commitment." ?
The 'jewish-like' commitment to what they regard as their homeland is grounded in a determination to maintain that homeland through perpetual recklessness, violence, force. And of course in the confidence in their sponsors.
'Promotive' circumstances that Palestinians lack to a large extent. Unless one thinks of the militants among the Palestinians. So how can they develop such a commitment, other than in a non-violent manner, such as BDS etc.? And most probably not under the current PA.
 

Angelika R (143)
Tuesday September 1, 2015, 3:08 pm
Kashua's answer wasn't witty at all, it testified of resignation. The worst thing the Palestinians could adopt.
 

Evelyn B (63)
Wednesday September 2, 2015, 2:02 am
Jinny - Your comment is so "spot on"! One star isn't enough
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Look around the world, at the crises, the divisions within society ...
And look carefully how many politicians and power brokers push the buttons that provoke fear - leading to hatred - to suck in followers & supporters.
Look at the break up of Former Yugoslavia - that is how the leaders played it (and play it to a large extent today)
Look at Rwanda (and Burundi) - Same game played.
Look at India .... come pre-elections, & you'll find the same game
Look at Erdogan in Turkey right now - he's playing the same strategy against the Kurds
You'll even find it it the political spiel in many countries against immigrants, migrants, the blacks, the poor, the unemployed, the elderly & their pensions, etc etc
You'll find it between Hamas & Fatah ....
ISIS uses it to build support against non-Sunni .....
Some use ISIS to build fear & hate of all Arabs/ Muslims

And of course, in Israel, in the pro-Zionist/ right wing ... and through the hasbara handbooks & their users, around the world through the pro-Zionists ....

Sometimes just hot air to give "sound bites" (just as dangerous, because some take it seriously), sometimes very seriously ....

Yes, Jinny - it is the strategy of power seeking political leaders to spew fear and hate
 

Angelika R (143)
Wednesday September 2, 2015, 4:32 am
..and perhaps more importantly, to MAINTAIN that power by all means, once they've gained it!
Yes, look around the world, but, first and foremost look at USRAEL!
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday September 2, 2015, 6:10 am
Allow everyone a home
 

Charles Wallis (111)
Wednesday September 2, 2015, 8:26 am
TFTS
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday September 2, 2015, 8:31 am
Sad to say but it's gone--it's been stolen from ruthless dictators. thx Sam
 

Lawrence D (3)
Wednesday September 2, 2015, 11:28 am
Thanks.
 

Janet B (0)
Wednesday September 2, 2015, 12:47 pm
Thanks
 

Elizabeth M (65)
Wednesday September 2, 2015, 2:20 pm
Noted with thanks Sam. My heart goes out to this man Kashua ,.and all Palestinians. Jinny , yes it is the power seeking political leaders that 'spew' the hate.
 

S J (124)
Wednesday September 2, 2015, 7:06 pm
that seems to be no where...i m sorry.
thanks Sam
 

Gillian M (11)
Thursday September 3, 2015, 10:33 am
Angelika, what a racist/anti-Semitic statement to state that ALL Jews are violent. HOW DARE YOU? I suppose that all Germans are Nazis committed to the genocide that Hitler demanded!
 

Gillian M (11)
Thursday September 3, 2015, 10:37 am
To put Angleika's racist statement into persepctive, Jews are determined to protect their land and their right to survival. The Muslim terrorist organisations attack Israel and Israelis on a daily basis and the Israelis have the same right to protect themselves as any other nation.

I have yet to see anyone condemn these same Muslim terrorists for these attacks or their abuse of their own people using them as human shields and teaching tiny children to hate and to fight as combatants, which are war crimes.
 

Evelyn B (63)
Thursday September 3, 2015, 1:16 pm
How typical, to put words in Angie's "mouth" (or keyboard) that were not actually there ....

Are you intentionally trying to tell people that Angie is referring to "ALL Jews" when she says
"The 'jewish-like' commitment to what they regard as their homeland is grounded in a determination to maintain that homeland through perpetual recklessness, violence, force." ....
When in fact she is talking about those who support/ justify violence ?

And you then go on the "justify" that "Jews are determined to protect their land and their right to survival." - apparently covering ALL Jews (where Angie wasn't) ...

I would challenge that ALL Jews feel that violence is the way to " protect their land and their right to survival".
You don't represent ALL Jews with your all too frequent expression of rapid hate of Muslims and Islam.

There are many Jews who are ill at ease with the policies and strategies that feed fear, hate, violence ....
Even if there are also some Jews who believe that all violence against Palestinians is justified .... especially among the extremist settlers & a number of right-wing leaders & followers ...

But it was not Angie who was categorising ALL Jews ...
It was you
 

Angelika R (143)
Thursday September 3, 2015, 1:43 pm
Thanks Evelyn. But why not just ignore the agitating firebrand. Who even takes her serious.
 

Evelyn B (63)
Thursday September 3, 2015, 2:23 pm
There is a comment by Angie that doesn't seem to show up here yet!

Hopefully it will come up sooner or later
But as I want to answer it ......

She wrote: Thanks Evelyn. But why not just ignore the agitating firebrand. Who even takes her serious

I want to reply - every now and then one needs to remind others (or inform those who haven't realised yet) of the way that some people twist the truth in order to spread false images .... & malign those who dare to criticise political matters concerning Israel.
This was one blatant occasion
 

Janet B (0)
Thursday September 3, 2015, 2:52 pm
Thanks
 

Janis K (129)
Thursday September 3, 2015, 10:12 pm
Thanks Sam
 

Past Member (0)
Friday September 4, 2015, 5:09 am
STOP THE RACIST JUDEOPHOBIA!
 

donna m (97)
Wednesday September 9, 2015, 12:48 am
noted
 

donna m (97)
Wednesday September 9, 2015, 12:49 am
thanks for sharing
 

Jim M (38)
Wednesday September 9, 2015, 2:47 pm
thank you
 

Jim M (38)
Wednesday September 9, 2015, 2:47 pm
noted
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday January 19, 2016, 9:59 pm
THANKS
 
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