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U.S. Senate Democrats voted to uphold the hard-fought nuclear accord with Iran on Thursday, overcoming ferocious Republican opposition and delivering President Barack Obama a legacy-making victory on his top foreign policy priority.


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JL A (281)
Thursday September 10, 2015, 2:18 pm
Thanks for sharing this positive news for peace Sam!

Kathleen M (208)
Thursday September 10, 2015, 2:23 pm
Gleefully noted! Thanks for sharing, Sam. Eloquently worded title...

Angelika R (143)
Thursday September 10, 2015, 2:35 pm
:-)))) Thanks Sam!!
We knew it, they got what they deserved!
"a lawsuit to stop the accord." - LMAO !! Does Boehner realise his own ass is in trouble?
I saw reports of voices possibly sacking him as speaker.
I read the developments taking place there over the last few days earlier in Politico, they lost their minds.

Nyahh Nyahh Nyahh :P :P Nutyahoo- NOW WHAT?

Angelika R (143)
Thursday September 10, 2015, 2:47 pm
Despite this clear victory for Obama, all supporters and world peace, it was absolutely deplorable , despicable really, how most media reported and what was also reflected in many of the statements of approval by dem congress critters:
they took and worded it as a given that Iran even had the intention of building a bomb when there was plenty evidence of the opposite being true!

Sandrea S (278)
Thursday September 10, 2015, 2:51 pm
Haw haw!

Past Member (0)
Thursday September 10, 2015, 2:52 pm
Thanks for the news!

Lona Goudswaard (66)
Thursday September 10, 2015, 3:10 pm
Thanks, Sam, for posting this good news. Good thing that some politicians in Washington are still in charge of their faculties, as anyone to the right clearly isn't. But it's more than a year before the next president is inaugurated, so we can expect to see about 30-40 bills to repeal the treaty, one more inane than the other, each costing the tax payer about a million and probably the only bills coming out of the House. Another wasted year.

Angelika R (143)
Thursday September 10, 2015, 3:12 pm
So true Lona! Going by Obamacare, they should exceed 30-40.

Freya H (345)
Thursday September 10, 2015, 3:21 pm
This could indicate that Zionists' iron grip on our government is slipping. Poor babies.

Angelika R (143)
Thursday September 10, 2015, 3:21 pm
What's perhaps more interesting is what sort of response will the Nutyahoo receive at home now?
I'm still waiting for that Knesset seat #61 to start shaking...

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Thursday September 10, 2015, 4:46 pm

Thanks Sam ... and you'll be blamed for the title - LOL. Just wait and see! If at least you'd have said "Up your toches" - that would have sounded more familiar to "them" ... ;-).

Well, the first round is won but the battle is far from over; absolutely agree with the comments above. They don't give up that easy - they're just re-grouping and re-evaluating their strategies and looking for the next feasible step. As Lona says: more tax payer money and another year wasted.

While Israel is creating more peace-serving facts on the ground ...

Maria Teresa Schollhorn (42)
Thursday September 10, 2015, 9:30 pm
Thank you Sam.

Rose Becke (141)
Thursday September 10, 2015, 11:28 pm
LOL Sam re Title

Past Member (0)
Friday September 11, 2015, 12:01 am
I think they decided to make their top priority Defunding Planned Parenthood.
They knew they lost this.
Thank you Sam

Angelika R (143)
Friday September 11, 2015, 4:46 am
Nancy, what may be true for those ReThugLikuds on the Hill (though I think that isn't by far all, impeachment would be) isn't true for the Nutyahoo and his ilk. That's what Sam is predominantly addressing here I think.

But it IS also true for AIPAC which have basically lived, existed of and for the "Iran bomb". All their strategy was centered around this, now they've lost their "raison d' être" and their cash cow! (that is a QUOTE from a former AIPAC offical!) - Poor babies.

Evelyn B (63)
Friday September 11, 2015, 5:54 am
Yes - the power of AIPAC is slipping - and the voices of those American Jews (including Armrican Israelis ....) who do NOT see AIPAC as speaking for them are growing louder

Thanks, Sam

Angelika R (143)
Friday September 11, 2015, 12:18 pm
Up your ass AIPAC -?! good read here

AIPAC Spent Millions of Dollars to Defeat the Iran Deal. Instead, It May Have Destroyed Itself

Angelika R (143)
Friday September 11, 2015, 12:20 pm
That's a headline we''d finallyy love to see with the name of the Nutyahoo in it!

Angelika R (143)
Friday September 11, 2015, 12:21 pm
That's a headline we''d finally love to see with the name of the Nutyahoo in it!

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Friday September 11, 2015, 2:12 pm

That made excellent reading, thanks Angelika! ************

Poor AIPAC ... they serve as our "thermometer" ... who ever spoke/speaks in front of AIPAC at their annual and special gatherings was a no-no person. I do remember that our wanna be future President, Gamal "Jimmy" Mubarak (the junior), spoke trice in front of that illustrious audience and got thunderous applause; even standing ovations. Latest then we knew where the wind is blowing from ...

Now how do we evaluate politicians?

Angelika R (143)
Friday September 11, 2015, 3:43 pm
Thermometer ? lol-well, up your ass then!

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Friday September 11, 2015, 4:52 pm

Angelika - you want to thrust the thermometer up which butt ...??

Angelika R (143)
Friday September 11, 2015, 5:06 pm
NOT yours!! Whoever speaks at an AIPAC meeting!

Sam H (410)
Friday September 11, 2015, 5:09 pm
Had no idea anyone had more than one!

Angelika R (143)
Friday September 11, 2015, 5:18 pm
LOOOL Sam...well I think the Nutyahoo got an extra one stuck on his neck.

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Friday September 11, 2015, 11:00 pm

Lucky me ... I already started hiding in anticipation - LOL! You two always make me laugh early morning - thanks Angelika and Sam!!

As for the extra one in his neck ... he sure looks like it on the pic Sam used ... somehow distressed ;-)


John De Avalon (36)
Saturday September 12, 2015, 2:13 am
The deal actually helps Israel and serves their interests, if they stopped to think about it.. So I don't know why he is complaining.
Plus he may have got billions in extra aid as a sop.

Offering the hand of friendship is always the right course of action.

If the deal holds, we'll see a more moderate and peaceful government and political stance take hold in Tehran, which is good for everyone.

If the Iranians double cross the deal, the hand of the Americans will be forced and they'll bomb the nuclear sites.

People here may be laughing at Netanyahu, but I fancy he has played a crafty game throughout.

John De Avalon (36)
Saturday September 12, 2015, 2:14 am
Re the thread title:


Sam H (410)
Saturday September 12, 2015, 2:35 am
Zionists admire deceitful ways to achieve their goals. That’s CLASSY!

Instead of being embarrassed by a deceitful prime minister, you sing his praise!

As if we didn’t already have a clear idea about your moral bankruptcy!

Nicolai L (39)
Saturday September 12, 2015, 3:46 am
good thing =)

John De Avalon (36)
Saturday September 12, 2015, 7:10 am
Sam: I'm not singing his praises. He has played a crafty game throughout, that's what I said, and he has.
If the deal holds, the whole world has won, but Netanyahu will be the biggest winner.

John De Avalon (36)
Saturday September 12, 2015, 7:16 am
Sam: September 12th and that's the seventh anti-Jewish/anti-Israeli HATE thread you've posted this month.
Mind you that is pretty good for you, as last month it averaged one a day...

Why do you hate so much?

As I keep telling you, hate is an energy. It'll eat you up.

I don't believe Care2 is the right medium for you to be promoting your racial hatred agenda.

John De Avalon (36)
Saturday September 12, 2015, 7:20 am
As for the (yet more) personal abuse - that's a flag ...


John De Avalon (36)
Saturday September 12, 2015, 7:23 am
That's a small chunk of Sumatran rainforest saved though, so you do have your uses ...

Peace and love!

Sam H (410)
Saturday September 12, 2015, 7:40 am
"People here may be laughing at Netanyahu, but I fancy he has played a crafty game throughout." Admiring Netanyahu's hateful policies is an embrace of that hatred and those policies, John!

You fail to acknowledge that you're eaten up with hatred, John. I bet you can't point to a single instance where you condemned Netanyahu or Likud for their refusal to accept a two state solution.

You're promoting war, not peace John, but you lack the honesty to admit it. And that is fine. You're not the only Zionist warmonger in the world. But to hold those views and still claim you're for peace is pretty "crafty" to say the least--a Zionist trait!

John De Avalon (36)
Saturday September 12, 2015, 10:14 am
Sam: It was an observation, not admiration.

I suggest you read back through your Jew-bashing threads - though it may take you a while as there a multitude of them - you'll find multiple posts of mine were I've stated that both Netanyahu and Hamas are obstacles to peace and need to go.

And two nation solution??? (Something I've advocated from day one)
Last time I heard your take was 'one nation' death to Israel.

Angelika R (143)
Saturday September 12, 2015, 11:29 am
This JdA deliberately ignores to differentiate "jews" and Zionists! A difference like between day and night.
And the word was two- STATES solution, not "nation" Palestinians ARE a nation, they need their own nation STATE!
Pleaae Stop insulting people here with your false accusations!

fly bird (26)
Saturday September 12, 2015, 10:14 pm
LOL, ditto!!

fly bird (26)
Saturday September 12, 2015, 10:16 pm
Play it again, Sam!!

John De Avalon (36)
Sunday September 13, 2015, 6:49 am
Sam: That's another flagged up.

John De Avalon (36)
Sunday September 13, 2015, 6:53 am
Angelika: An independent Palestine and an independent Israel, that's what it means. Two states.

Or are you advocating / hoping for another Jewish holocaust?

John De Avalon (36)
Sunday September 13, 2015, 6:54 am
If it was left to the ordinary people, there could be peace there tomorrow.

The famous documentary 'Promises' showed what is possible when the haters are out of the picture.


John De Avalon (36)
Sunday September 13, 2015, 6:58 am
Angelika: Sticking thermometers up ... That's rather coarse and undignified language to be using, don't you think?

You could make your point without resorting to unladylike behaviour I'm sure.

Evelyn B (63)
Sunday September 13, 2015, 8:52 am
It is very simple - some people choose to conflate Netanyahu, Israeli government policies é strategies & Zionist with "Jewish".
One may not criticise Zionist, extremist settlers (even when they burn babies alive), Israeli government, or Netanyahu ..... criticism of anyone or anything Jewish is to criticise ALL Jews (or to be a self-hating Jew - or that TERRIBLE, sinful group - a Left Winger ......) ... i.e. Jew hating or anti-Semitic ...

IF you are good, and avoid ALL such criticism, your pro-peace stance MIGHT be acceptble

Otherwise, you are one of the bad guys!!

Uncomfortable reality for John & his friends - more and more Jews don't share this idea that all Jews are always victims if Israel, Zionism, extremist settlers, Israeli right wingers are criticised .....

John De Avalon (36)
Sunday September 13, 2015, 10:55 am
Evelyn you're a fine one to talk, You and your friends went in to overdrive when the arson attack happened. Blaming all Israelis.

It was an infant not a baby, but obviously baby is more emotive and has more propaganda value.

When I reminded you of the Israeli baby who had its throat slit by Hamas extremists, deliberately and in cold blood, none of you could bring yourself to condemn the monsters that did it.

Those Zealots who (it appears) committed the arson attack want to see the destruction of Israel the same as Hamas do.

Sam H (410)
Sunday September 13, 2015, 11:38 am

This is the effect of brainwashing and indoctrination Zionists get at an early age. This sorry excuse for a human being can’t bring himself to call the killers of the Palestinian child monsters. Instead, they’re zealots! But the killers of an Israeli child are monsters. They don’t get the zealot defense. How can a rational human being NOT see all killers as monsters, unless he’s a zealot himself who can justify, through hate, the killing of Palestinian children? His motto: our killers are zealots, theirs are monsters. The type of peace this creature seeks with the Palestinians is the same type of peace Hitler sought with the Jews. He just sees no shame in embracing those Zionist beliefs!

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Sunday September 13, 2015, 4:21 pm

Evelyn and Sam - I couldn't have summarized it in a better and more precise way. I always find it interesting that Israeli kids stay babies until well past the age of toddlers ... where Palestinian (Christian and Muslim) kids are already "children" at the age of 6 months or so. Not really surprising as Palestinian kids as young as 7 are put in prisons with adults and treated accordingly.

Thinking of it ... Palestinian Christians and Muslims are born as adults - wouldn't that make it a whole lot easier to deal with them?!

fly bird (26)
Sunday September 13, 2015, 7:49 pm
Nothing to add to great comments from Eleonora, Sam and Evelyn ... except, up your's, Brownsville et al.

Enough Zionist bollocks!

John De Avalon (36)
Monday September 14, 2015, 5:54 am
Sam: Another one flagged

John De Avalon (36)
Monday September 14, 2015, 6:02 am
Sam: Of course the ultra-Zealot Jews who intentionally or unintentionally killed the infant in the arson attack are 'monsters'. I have no qualms about that. The same as the two Hamas terrorists who slit the Israeli baby's throat are 'monsters'.

I invite you to label the two Hamas killers as 'monsters' ... I'm sure not even you could have any excuses for failing to do that.

John De Avalon (36)
Monday September 14, 2015, 6:10 am
Eleonora: In the Hamas attack a three year old CHILD was stabbed in the heart. And a 3 week old BABY had its throat slit.
In the arson attack, the child who died was 18 months old. At 18 months a child is an INFANT, not a baby.

John De Avalon (36)
Monday September 14, 2015, 6:14 am
Jess: Flagged that too.

No need to use coarse, foul language.

John De Avalon (36)
Monday September 14, 2015, 6:18 am
Care2 Admin: As you'll be viewing this thread, maybe you'd like to explain why you allow this group of people to persistently post hate threads? The sole aim is to stir up racial hatred, that much is clear.
Not to mention the personal abuse.
Not to mention the crude language.

Is this 'making the world a better place'?

Sam H (410)
Monday September 14, 2015, 7:21 am
I can't believe you're that oblivious to the venom you're spewing, John!

What part of this you didn't understand?

"How can a rational human being NOT see all killers as monsters, unless he’s a zealot himself who can justify, through hate, the killing of Palestinian children? His motto: our killers are zealots, theirs are monsters. The type of peace this creature seeks with the Palestinians is the same type of peace Hitler sought with the Jews. He just sees no shame in embracing those Zionist beliefs!"

You're still not sure if the "ultra-Zealot Jews... intentionally or unintentionally killed the [Palestinian] infant in the arson attack."

As if that makes a difference to the parents who were bunt to death in the same attack. Of course, you're going to argue that they were not burnt to death because they didn't die on the spot.

Even Israel's president, in a rare moment of honesty, recognized Jewish terrorism for what it is. But alas, you're incapable of having such a rare moment yourself.

If you're the peacemaker you claim to be, how come you have more in common with the baby killers than with their victims?

You seem to want peace as much as Netanyahu, John!

It is to the Palestinians' credit that they never produced a leader like Netanyahu in spite of all the crimes you've been committing against them!

Evelyn B (63)
Monday September 14, 2015, 12:32 pm
NO killing of children (including babies, toddlers & older children ) justifies more killing of children.

Extremists who practice violence are just as wrong, whichever ethnic, religious or political group they belong to - and contrary to what John would like readers to believe - Sam, Jess, Eleonora, Angie, Carrie & all those John tries to paint as anti-Seminitc Jew haters have never condoned such actions - be they by people from Hamas, IDF, extremist settlers, ISIS/Daesh or any other category. ...

Digging through archives to find any events of similar horror - finding only one that took place in 2001,another in 2003, another in 2004, and one in 2011 & posting them in an attempt to make the heiniousness of events a few weeks ago (from which only one family member is still alive) is, quite frankly - sick.

Wrongs do not "even things out" -
Pretending that others CONDONE such wrongs is yet another form of abuse ....
And trying to whitewash this by claiming that those who criticise politics and acts are driven by hate .....
This cracks badly the "peacemaker" jargon & image .... sorry. Not convincing at all - because there is ZERO effort to respect and try to understand BOTH sides .... just to demand that the Palestinians make themselves into a doormat ....

As for "support for a Two State solution - while actively endorsing the slicing up of one of these states into an archepelago of enclsves without even a reliable communications network that would allow the citizens to move around in their State .... Each week sees the "Bantustan" process extended, killing further any practical Two State solution (since the settlements certainly will not tolerate being assigned to the geographic state in which they are physically located - and the extremist settlement terrorists demonstrate this all to loudly)

It is like saying "I love lions" and supporting the hunting tourist industry ... NOT convincing

John De Avalon (36)
Monday September 14, 2015, 12:35 pm
Sam: That's not what I said. Even if they've not been convicted, I'd say it was fairly obvious it was them that did it. They meant to burn the houses down, yes. They meant to run the Palestinians out, yes. But did they mean to burn those people to death? That part is not clear.

In the Palestinian attack, the child was stabbed in the heart . They missed the baby, but heard it crying as they were leaving and went back in and slit its throat. So their intent was not in question.

BTW you forgot to brand the Hamas murders as 'monsters'. Go on, here's another chance for you to show you don't support such monstrous evil.

Have you never heard of Yasser Arafat? Or Abu Nidal?

Evelyn B (63)
Monday September 14, 2015, 12:55 pm
The attack you are referring to - several years ago - was done by violent extremists - who are monsters whoever they claim to support.
But why do you need so badly to pull a parallel from the archives? Does it make it any "better" that 3 deaths including an 18 month old were caused?

And why do you need to try to convince yourself that the perpetrators probably/ possibly didn't realise that they would kill?? That kind of fire bombing leaves little chance of escape. It is more a miracle that, exceptionally, the neighbours weren't home that night, so weren't killed as well .... You appear to want to cover "your monsters" while demanding a repeat of past condemnation of a past action by other (non-Israeli) violent extremists ...... Can't you see how unbalanced your stance is?

John De Avalon (36)
Monday September 14, 2015, 1:10 pm
Evelyn: And how convincing are you? The number of Israeli bashing threads you've posted and posted on.

And may I remind you it was YOU who brought the dead Palestinian child into this debate
As I said the child was an infant not a baby, but using the word baby is more emotive and stirs up more hatred.

You are happy to persistently use this dead child as a political football to score cheap propaganda points.
I thought this was a crude thread designed to sneer and mock Netanyahu, for what purpose is there to bring that dead child into the debate? And then you lecture on morality! To quote you - sick.

You go into overdrive at the Palestinian child, but you lot can't cough up a single grudging word for the Israeli baby.

As for using the Palestinians as a doormat. There could be peace in the Holy Land tomorrow if it was left to the ordinary people - as the documentary 'Promises' showed - and the haters were out of the picture.
And most of these haters don't even live in the region!!! And they don't know what it is to be bombed, or homeless, or hungry, or unemployed, or destitute, or without hope. Yet they are happy to stir the hate pot and keep the Palestinians in their wretched state.

Palestinians are no different to anyone else. They have the same hopes, dreams and aspirations as anyone else - peace, security, a well paid job, a nice home, a car, white goods, holidays a good life with hope for the future.

If you promote hate, hate is what you'll get in return. And hate inevitably culminates in violence.

If you want peace, promote peace.


John De Avalon (36)
Monday September 14, 2015, 1:16 pm
Evelyn: 'Their neighbours weren't home' which might suggest they didn't think the other family were home either. So yes, maybe they didn't intend to kill.
Or maybe they did.
Neither of us know either way do we. So it's hardly unreasonable to state as much.
But either way they should face justice. Nobody has any dispute on that.

Sam H (410)
Monday September 14, 2015, 3:14 pm
Just incorrigible!

He is still defending the criminals. That’s how the Zionist mind works. It relies on hate-driven rationale!

The bottom line is that the Zionists have a country, the Palestinians don’t.

And when the Palestinians resort to peaceful means to advance their cause, the Zionists cry ant-Semitism.

It seems the Zionists are leaving the Palestinians no other choice but to employ the same tactics the Zionists employed to establish their country!

Such is the Zionists’ contribution to peace! Well, their most recent one!

John De Avalon (36)
Tuesday September 15, 2015, 1:06 am
That's it, Sam, carry on your JIHAD BY PROXY from the comfort of your armchair.

Who appointed you as the Palestinian spokesperson?

What the Palestinians want? Maybe you should leave that to the Palestinians.

Numerous independent research studies have shown that the majority of Israeli Arabs would rather live in Israel, as Israelis, under Israeli governance, than live under PA/Hamas/Fatah rule.


Evelyn B (63)
Tuesday September 15, 2015, 5:54 am
John - you really should check things before writing.

An infant is a very small baby in the first stage of life. (Infant mortality is during the first year of life).
Baby is a looser term, covering a longer period (indeed "baby brother or baby sister can be used to refer to older children)
Had you demanded that "toddler" be used to describe Ali, you would have been more accurate.
Because in discussion of child development, the stages are: infant - baby - toddler -

You are so keen to whitewash the arsonists that you want to give them the benefit of the doubt.
But the probabilities were more in favour of the houses being occupied than unoccupied ... At best, the arsonists didn't give a darn if there were people there .... at worst, they expected both homes to be occupied ... they certainly did nothing to avoid killing the inhabitants - not "roof-knocking" for them.

You also refuse to read condemnation of previous killings ... of ALL such killings by extremists, be they Israeli, Palestinian, IDF, Hamas, Islamist splinter groups, settlers or whoever ...... You zap such statements and demand again and again why you don't find a specific phrase that you want to see. And you continue to use insults when you can't play the puppeteer.

And as always - misinformation ... Who in their right mind would opt to live under occupation, away from their family roots, rather than as second class citizens in Israel? The issue isn't Israel vs PA/Hamas/Fatah ..... it is OCCUPATION ... and the Israeli Palestinians are from neither Gaza nor the West Bank .... most are not even from East Jerusalem. Why should they opt to live under the constraints of occupation? They're not crazy, and they are living in the land of their forefathers ... why choose to leave it? They may be unable to live in the actual village of their forefathers - too many were destroyed, and they've been forced to live elsewhere - but they are in the land of their ancestors. The question is totally misleading .....

Not that the PA/Fatah/ Hamas are ideal political leaders ... they are not. Many Palestinians living in the Occupied Territories & Gaza don't like living under their governance ...... it adds insult to the injury of living under Israeli Occupation .... Elections are long overdue ... And meanwhile, any viability of a Two State solution is rapidly being eaten up as the Israelis extend their settlements & their "no go" areas of occupied territory ... eating up Palestine (within the '67 borders ...)

Evelyn B (63)
Tuesday September 15, 2015, 5:56 am
"Question: What's the Difference Between Baby, Newborn, Infant & Toddler?

Answer: On this site, the word baby means any child from birth to age 4. Newborn refers to babies under three months of age. Infants are babies from three months to one year old. Toddlers are babies from one year to four years of age."

Angelika R (143)
Tuesday September 15, 2015, 8:54 am
I cannot believe how one zionist supporter managed to successfully highjack a post about a MASSIVE DEFEAT of the warmonger Nutyahoo!

John De Avalon (36)
Tuesday September 15, 2015, 1:55 pm
Evelyn: Maybe a good idea to learn the Queen's English before mouthing off. You can't have an 18 month old baby any more than you can have a thirty year old teenager ...

John De Avalon (36)
Tuesday September 15, 2015, 2:00 pm
Angelika: It was your chum Evelyn who hijacked the thread. Using a dead infant as a propaganda football.
She has certainly got some mileage out of his death, poor soul.

Just when I see I flicker of genuine humanity ... then, 'No, I was right the first time'.

John De Avalon (36)
Tuesday September 15, 2015, 2:03 pm
So, if the Iranians genuinely do get rid of their nuclear weapons programme, without the Israelis firing a shot, and if Netanyahu gets billions in extra aid ... Yes, a massive defeat.

Sam H (410)
Tuesday September 15, 2015, 6:34 pm
They should book a room for Netanyahu in Tehran!

While Netanyahu looks for a handout, Tehran is making money the old-fashioned way!

I fancy Tehran played one hell of a crafty game throughout!

John De Avalon (36)
Wednesday September 16, 2015, 2:05 am
Good spot, Sam! You've exposed their ulterior motive! I thought there had to be something more to it.

Angelika R (143)
Wednesday September 16, 2015, 4:45 am
The ulterior motive of the entire Western world happens to be BUSINESS! Well done, and that's just the beginning. Iran must somehow get rid of its massive billions of debts, the one it owes Germany being among the biggest.So, we may well be next in line!

Angelika R (143)
Wednesday September 16, 2015, 5:12 am
In fact, the ink on the nuclear deal wasnt dry yet and we had already sent a trade delegation to Tehran as the first nation to do so! While the Israelis are going hysterical, given the close ties between our countries, take a guess who will be stronger, our business community and lobby or the Israel lobby .

I hope it will equally be the voices of reason now to pressure our govt. to stop supporting Israel's proxy wars by the US led West /NATO regarding Syria.
An open letter to our govt., leadership and Media by a renowned stock exchange 'guru' has been published that doesn't mince words! Wish I could present it, but its naturally all in German.

Angelika R (143)
Wednesday September 16, 2015, 7:47 am
No Weapons For Israel

Evelyn B (63)
Wednesday September 16, 2015, 9:38 am
Thanks, Angie -

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Wednesday September 16, 2015, 2:31 pm

Thanks Angelika - signed!!

Carol R (11)
Thursday September 17, 2015, 6:38 am
Signed, thanks Angie!

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Thursday September 17, 2015, 6:54 am

Ros - I can't tell you how much I missed you and your great comments - LOL!!!

A whole Galaxy for you *****************************************************************************************

Evelyn B (63)
Thursday September 17, 2015, 6:54 am
Ros - LOL!!
As he ignored the definition from a site about parenting, I think that he can't read the Queen's English ... but maybe you're right and he's a very precocious .... toddler? infant? whatever ..... whose reading capacity is erratic. But he took a short phrase in a longer comment, & hijacked the thread to discuss babies, infants & even (erroneous) definitions of these terms rather than Iran!

Sam H (410)
Thursday September 17, 2015, 9:14 am
The theme of this thread seems to be catching on!
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