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Adults Blame Parents for Education Problems


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Jae
- 3141 days ago - news.yahoo.com
An Associated Press-Stanford University Poll on education found that 68 percent of adults believe parents deserve heavy blame for what's wrong with the U.S. education system -- more than teachers, school administrators, the government or teachers unions



   

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Kit B (276)
Wednesday December 15, 2010, 4:14 am
I agree with the headline - being a parent and a teacher. A true "accidental" pregnancy is rare, we have many and various forms of birth control. Therefore having a child is a choice, a choice that is also a life commitment, far too often babies, like kittens and puppies become boring after the "cute" wears off. Our planet and even our own country is burdened with too many people, no one is under pressure to create more, and for those who still want to "play" - please do, just don't do that once you have a child. In many ways our society has tried to help while not interfering, parents can find parenting classes and ideas from local community centers, churches and even public schools. Not many will attend. Because it's done in certain way on TV and on situation comedies does not mean that is the way to rear children. In the 80's and early 90's a teacher could discuss the child's progress with parents and most knew what the teacher was talking about. That began to change, and has gotten much worse. Few parents know or care what the course of instruction is or how it affects their child. The easy out for any discussion on or about education is to blame the teacher. Teaching requires a dedication beyond most other professions and poor teachers will leave in under 5 years. So if we eliminate the excuse of too many poor teachers we are left with a society that expects the schools to do the task of teaching and preparing children for the world and parents who just don't make the grade.

Testing! If teachers and students are dealing with district wide, state wide or national testing then the first question is or should be - who is making money here, not how the students fare. I can guarantee the first words spoken will be "we must eliminate poor teachers" not "we must eliminate the crushing influence of politics on the schools." For the most part I ignored the most recent political changes and when I closed the classroom door I taught the essentials of education. Basics do not know politics or religion, they are the few real truisms.
 

Ramona Thompson (210)
Wednesday December 15, 2010, 6:34 am
Noted thanks.
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday December 15, 2010, 6:42 am
Noted, thanks Kit. I was never a parent, though I was a school teacher...and I agree with you completely. You can't make up for years of neglect and bad choices in a few hours every day in the classroom, especially if it's overcrowded.
 

Patricia Cannell (818)
Wednesday December 15, 2010, 6:54 am
A lot of the problem has to do with the economy. Sometimes it's all a parent(s) can do to keep food on the table and a roof over their heads. When I was growing up, (OMG, I've turned into my Mother!), my father worked two jobs and my mother had to take on a part time job then later a full time job. We ate porridge a lot when I was young but I never thought we were poor. My Mom made a lot of our clothing, not that we had a lot. Toys were something we got at Christmas only, along with clothing. We actually played outside. We did our own homework or stayed after school to ask the teacher for help.

Today it is different. Everyone seems to want to biggest house, the newest car, the latest electronics. Even the children are caught up in this materialistic world. Want is so different from need. With the parents working all the time and now putting the kids into every sport or lesson hoping he/she will be the next Gretzky of their day, when is there time for one on one studying?

I worry about the future of our planet. Our children will be in charge one day. Scary thought!!

Thanks for the story Joe. Noted.
 

Laurence M (43)
Wednesday December 15, 2010, 7:16 am
The educational system in France also meets many problems connected to our lifestyle... Thanks Jae
 

Terry King (113)
Wednesday December 15, 2010, 7:33 am
Teachers have your children a few hours a day for one year... You have them for a lifetime!
 

Caitlin M (104)
Wednesday December 15, 2010, 7:49 am
Once again, my brilliant (I'm kidding, sort of) remarks have been eaten up by Care2 processing. I'm sick, this time, because I actually think I had a good line of thought, which I cannot reproduce now. What it boiled down to is even if parents are the major problem, education, I think, may be the answer. It'll take the commitment of people like Michelle Rhee, who created StudentsFirst.org to address problems in schools and it will take the commitment of the schools to educate not only the to the 3Rs (which they barely do now), but also life choices information. Education toward responsible behavior has to be taught in schools because that's the only resource that is common ground to all children. Once children become educated properly, then as adults they will be able to make better parently decisions. There are too many uneducated parents of today I think. The other point to consider is that people will always be people and there will be no universal understanding of what "good" parenting or "good education" is. I do think if we can try to get the best teachers in the schools, as Michelle Rhee wants to do, we'll be heading in a better direction, though. It is the children who will be the parents of tomorrow. That's one fact that is indisputable. Give the children more necessary skills, the more future parents will maintain whose skills.

Thanks< Jae. This is a subject that is very worthy of brainstorming.
 

Caitlin M (104)
Wednesday December 15, 2010, 7:52 am
There are a few typos above, "parently" should be "parenting."
 

Hans Mueller (591)
Wednesday December 15, 2010, 8:08 am
If we always do what we've always done, then we'll always get what we've always gotten,

We are not put into this world to sit still and know; we are put into it to act.
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday December 15, 2010, 9:15 am
Noted and thanks Jae .
I kind of agree with Patricia C. I think it is a combination of poor parenting on some parents part and lack of support for parents in our society and our government. I know of schools that look more like zoo's that halls of learning and I don't think that is all the parents fault ,I think its the schools fault for allowing it .
 

Carole K (195)
Wednesday December 15, 2010, 9:26 am
Pink Floyd to teachers: --"All in all, you're just another brick in the wall..." Can anyone tell me what would motivate someone to want to be a teacher in this day & age? Been there, done that for over 30 yrs. (most of my adult life).
 

Jeannette A (137)
Wednesday December 15, 2010, 9:58 am
We are all in this together... parents, teachers, neighbors, relatives. If we ALL seek to nurture and educate children, they stand a much better chance to grow up to be the healthy individuals we want them to be. We are herd animals and the responsibility for raising a child cannot be allowed to fall on just one person. If the focus is always kept on the nurture of the child, no matter whether it be from the parents or the teachers or anyone else, then all the diverse problems of our society will not stop us from giving these children what they need.
 

pam M (98)
Wednesday December 15, 2010, 11:16 am
"You cannot currently send a star to Kit because you have done so within the last week"

I totally agree with your assessment. Too many parents turn the rearing of their young over to the school system and this is a big mistake. They disengage themselves as soon as the child is in full time classes. Most never bother to take an interest in the child's school activities unless apprised of some negativity such as bad grades or behavior problems. Then blame the school if the child is scholastically lacking in the future.

It's quite easy to become a parent, birds do, bees do and any monkey in a tree can do it, that doesn't mean that all should do it. Anybody can become a parent but it takes a hell of a woman and a man to be a parent.

No "owners manual" arrives with your newborn the challenge is for the parent to train the child in the way it should grow and TV is a horrendous teacher. If the parent comes from a dysfunctional unit (which most do) this will be past down to the child. The Ozzie and Harriet mold is a myth (even the Nelsons agree) children are individuals, and can't be raised in a cookie cutter method.

Common sense and parenting classes are the best way to go.
 

Dotti L (85)
Wednesday December 15, 2010, 11:42 am
Kit and Caitlin, Always like reading your posts - right on. Never worry about typos or mis-spells. Those who critisise (sp) should be concentrating on the subject being discussed.
 

Mac R (289)
Wednesday December 15, 2010, 1:52 pm
Caitlin has it right. They need to concentrate on teaching critical thinking skills. Once they instill those skills then learning becomes much easier with its exponential effect. With the exception of a couple of excellent teachers in all of the schools I went to (15 different schools) almost none were teaching or using critical thinking skills. They almost exclusively used rote memorization which does not help one learn much. When over 80% of high school seniors can't even pick out Florida on a map or name the Vice President or understand how to balance a checkbook, you know something's wrong.
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday December 15, 2010, 5:49 pm
Noted , thanks Jae for sharing this important issue. Thank you kit. You really sum it up.
 

Michael C (217)
Wednesday December 15, 2010, 7:42 pm
Noted...however, I can't blame my Parents, especially my Mother, she made sure, I did my homework, when I got home from School, and sat there, and watched me like a hawk...Then she would check everything, I did, before I was allowed to get up from the table, to do anything else...
 

patrica and edw jones (190)
Wednesday December 15, 2010, 11:39 pm
we didn't get homework when we went to school.....we were disciplined at home and at school. Woe betide anyone playing up in the classroom - out came the cane and our parents were notified. We were never asked how our school day was or what we were learning - our parents were busy keeping food on the table and seeing that we were reasonably attired.......we grew up during the War(2) - most Dad's were away fighting and it was up to us children to be responsible for our own education. We all became responsible adults and so have our children. Hopefully so will our grandchildren.......so the discipline and character building starts in the HOME. Thanks Jae for a most interesting post and to all who have shared their thoughts here.
 

Kathy Chadwell (354)
Thursday December 16, 2010, 8:53 pm
Conservatives were more likely than moderates or liberals to blame parents.

Wow, glad to see that, as a parent & a Nana, I've had to constantly learn so I could help with homework. I've now done 3 book reports after graduating high school & skating by without ever having to write a single one:) All 3 were for Sydney, I'm amazed at the level of thinking that is expected from elementary children these days. Hey, we got an A on all 3 reports:)
 

Jae A (316)
Thursday December 16, 2010, 11:02 pm
The majority of today's youth have their own Tv's/Computers other electronic gadgets..aka...tempting distractions, out the gazoo or they spend their every waking minute trying to get their parents/guardians to buy all thosepopular items that ''they just have to have'' in order to survive from one day to the next :-). Many of todays youth also have their own automobiles...some even have their own credit card via mom and dad's signing for them... all before they graduate from high school. Add all those items together and the ones with the parents who are unable to find the time to help them with their schooling through their school years and well ..today..there starts their problems I think.

The youth oriented items I mentioned, as their personal items...especially those that are comunication and entertainment related items of distration/time, weren't around much less in the hands of school age children, during the period that patricia and edw mentioned above. At the time, that was a huge help for the youth of that period in their efforts to focus more on other things...schooling being one. With so many modern distractions and the temptations that come with nearly each of them,requiring their attention,schooling is all too often not something , in many cases, that even discipline can not over come...Not unless they already have that for themselves by the time most reach elementary school age .

The few that do for themselves, are responsible and more self disciplined are far too few obviously..as the topic of the thread helps to point out. If there wasn't a reason to poll who people think is the 'blame',then that too few"..wouldn't be the case ...or so I believe.
 

Jae A (316)
Friday December 17, 2010, 3:04 am
Ooops, I did forget to add that only Tv was around when I was of college age..so I am in the age group that was a little luckier as to having fewer distractions/temptations available from high school on also. :-)
 

Krasimira B (175)
Saturday December 18, 2010, 4:14 pm
Agree with Mac. Noted with thanks.
 

Barbara Erdman (63)
Wednesday December 22, 2010, 1:15 am
Noted I kind of agree with Hans. Here , Here. If you don't like it do something about it. I took my son out of public school and placed him in a private situation. It worked out well for him and I still managed my finances fine.I bellieve when there is a will there is a way! I also have a strong faith in my Lord to lead me. :-) thanx
 
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