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Are We Living in a Designer Universe?


Society & Culture  (tags: interesting, humans, science, universe, origins )

Michelle
- 3124 days ago - telegraph.co.uk
The argument over whether the universe has a creator, and who that might be, is among the oldest in human history. But amid the raging arguments one possibility has been almost ignored - the idea that the universe around us was created by people like us.



   

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Judy C (91)
Friday September 3, 2010, 7:46 pm
I find this a bit hard to swallow, but very thought-provoking just the same!
 

Laurie IS AWAY S (128)
Friday September 3, 2010, 8:06 pm
I agree Judy. On a side note,I don't know about creating black holes, but it would be neat to create worm holes!
THX MICHELLE :)
 

Patrizia S (315)
Friday September 3, 2010, 8:42 pm
noted thank you
 

Alex Keir (0)
Friday September 3, 2010, 9:25 pm
If the world spent as much time honoring our own accomplishments and inspiring more of the same - as they do religion in any of it's forms - we would all be much better off.
 

William K (308)
Friday September 3, 2010, 9:26 pm
I do not buy this argument either. If our universe were created in an atom-smasher in another universe, then who created that universe?
 

Ralph R Sutton (56)
Friday September 3, 2010, 9:30 pm
Green Star, Alex Keir. You hit the nail on the head.
 

Linda G (187)
Friday September 3, 2010, 10:18 pm
Fun article to ponder on... but even though I do not belong to a particular religion, it's very hard for me to believe in no Creator because of the miracle of birth and the rich diversity of flora, fauna, man and minerals on this planet. However when I try to even think about infinity, no beginning and no end or other space/time continuems my brain cells start short circuiting. I like "what ifs". It keeps me from being old and dotty. Thanks, Michelle
 

gail dair (0)
Saturday September 4, 2010, 1:08 am
Thanks Michelle
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday September 4, 2010, 9:48 am
Thanks; The Mystery of Mysteries.
 

Cef V. (2)
Saturday September 4, 2010, 10:42 am
Ask Professor Hawkins or better yet to Professor Xavier, maybe our universe was created by Tony Stark trying to find a world to go escaping from the menace of Marvel Zombies...

Then again I think we are, as always, over estimating our own capabilities and role in the Nature, first arguing that an anthropomorphic esoteric being created the magnificent cosmos in seven days and made our species kings of everything, then saying that maybe ancients myths were bat crap crazy and wrong, but there's still a chance that super advanced monkeys (or humans) created the universe using technology.

Why should the universe existence be so linked to us? Don't the tiny plankton in the sea and the humble earthworm in land fulfil far more important roles on keeping the planet alive than our destructive species? And why should the universe be considered as comprehensible based on our vision of it, like if our brain would dictate the rules of it's motion instead of the inverse, because as we know our brain evolved in this universe and we have achieved enough knowledge to understand it's laws by observing and accepting that our existence is directly influenced by these laws?

It's paradoxical though, because if some ancient humans created our universe, then other more ancient humans should have created the universe they were in, and some even more ancient humans should have created the universe those ancient humans lived in, a loop that would lead us to conclude that the first ever human creators were floating in the vacuum of primordial Nyx.

This neo-anthropocentrism It's just a childish and square ideology, a dream of vanity that keeps alive the silly question of "what's our very very important role in the universe?", when we already have the answer: we are just another species in the vast diversity of Nature, not more important than a cat, a dog or even a microbe. We humans think we are so special, and that is the first mistake that separates us from the Nature, creating this mess that we call progress and civilization, instead of pursuing the respect of all life forms.

.C.
 

pam w (139)
Saturday September 4, 2010, 12:58 pm
That was fun!
 

Sharon Balloch (127)
Saturday September 4, 2010, 1:04 pm
Not sure about the rest of the human race but I am still amazed by the butterfly.. and when we can make one of those when we can move on to a a frog maybe.. or a fruit fly.. then the universe. I was really tired this morning and had trouble making toast.. so I may not be much help with the sun...
 

Margaret Skinner (94)
Saturday September 4, 2010, 2:12 pm
THANKQ AND NOTED....
 

. (0)
Saturday September 4, 2010, 3:05 pm
Actually, since no one of us is actually capable of "building universes", nor do they just build themselves around us, I think God deserves the credit for both man and his creation,planets and universes included, in which man still has no idea how many they are, and most likely NEVER will!
 

Jean A (14)
Saturday September 4, 2010, 3:16 pm
We are evolving and we seem to be a big chemical clone of ourselves. I study the Bible, it has many layers and we assume that God created the heaven and earth approximately 6,000 years ago. Some of us believe that the planet was here before He created Earth and the three heavens. It says a void was here but if you believe in eternity that is yesterday, today and tomorrow forever. Earth will go and God will create another world as is stated in Revelations. When one looks out into the sky and one sees the vastness with our mere eyesight it is way beyond our understanding. The first heaven is where the birds fly and we also. The second is the Universe and all the planets and the third heaven is where God lives. I hope I make it!!!
 

Shirley H (49)
Saturday September 4, 2010, 3:26 pm
I will never buy that. Our World and the Universe was all created by a Higher Being - I call him God.
Shirley H.
 

josie batlles (44)
Saturday September 4, 2010, 4:50 pm
Seems a bit far fetched but...Thanks very much for sharing this interesting article. x
 

Mary Donnelly (47)
Saturday September 4, 2010, 8:08 pm
Thanks Michelle.
 

NICKY MELVILLE (119)
Saturday September 4, 2010, 11:26 pm
The answer to the title of this article, is... 'We just don't know!"... I am convinced that all the universes did NOT just happen by chance! I find it impossible to get my mind around the fact that there was no 'designer' involved in it's existence! That, to me, is as illogical as saying.(. and here, I quote the tired old analogy.).. " It is as ridiculous to think that the universe happened by chance, as it is to think that the works of Shakespeare would be created when there was an explosion in a printing factory!" ( Probably a bit mis-quoted, but I am sure you get the drift!!) IF we are taught from birth that the words of some genius, such as Professor Hawkins are the truth , the whole truth and nothing BUT the truth.. well.. is very hard not to think of what you hear as FACT! By the way...... I am convinced when it says in the BIble. "Man was created in God' Image" It was meant to mean nothing other than we have been born with an insatiable desire to CREATE... ( but not the wisdom of how to use that creation wisely!) What ever, it is fascinating to see how many people can be so SURE of their own personally theory.. when, we still, in reality, don't have a clue!
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday September 5, 2010, 12:23 am
Noted. Thanx!
 

Mary Donnelly (47)
Sunday September 5, 2010, 2:13 am
Voltaire semmed to think that if God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent Him. Humans ahve done that; now we call Him Science or Nature.
 

Jose Ramon Fisher Rodriguez (13)
Sunday September 5, 2010, 3:19 am
I don't think humans are smart enough for that.
 

Bracha Katz (31)
Sunday September 5, 2010, 5:11 am
I would not base whether or not to believe in God on science. Science changes all the time. Radical new discoveries are being made all the time. Science today is very different from science 50 years ago. Who know what will be discovered next?

I once read somewhere, I think it was on everystudent.com, a Christian website, that if archeologists would find a piece of pottery buried somewhere, they would reach the conclusion that people once lived there. Would they say that maybe the wind, water and pressure somehow formed it? No. Is it possible? Maybe, but why would you think that?
Thanks Michelle
 

Jose Ovidio Perez Morel (50)
Sunday September 5, 2010, 5:27 pm
Im agree, this theory is more real than the idea of the religions........
 

Anna Borsey (66)
Monday September 6, 2010, 2:57 pm
Wiiliam Kirkham - "If our universe were created in an atom-smasher in another universe, then who created that universe?"

Well, it is a bit like that picture of the "Laughing Cow", I think. She wears, as an earring, the picture of herself wearing an earring featuring the picture of herself wearing an earring . . . and so on, ad infinitum.
 

Marie Therese H (10)
Monday September 6, 2010, 3:19 pm
Truly mind boggling! But less superstitious than our present beleifs.
 
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