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Capitalism at a Dead End; a Few Pages of a Dynamic Book Soon to Be Published

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Did you know that King James I of England commissioned his bible so that the super rich 1% could use the word of God to control the 99% masses? What does the king's control of the printing press mean to us today?


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Fiona Ogilvie (562)
Tuesday May 15, 2012, 7:58 am
The super rich and the king controlled the technology and equipment of wealth production and the technology and equipment of communication, a situation that had always prevailed.

Today, the super rich (1%) control the technology and equipment of wealth production in the capitalism dominated world but the mastery in the use of the technology and equipment of communication belongs to the creative and innovative. Creativity and innovation are qualities that completely elude the 1% parasites.

Fiona Ogilvie (562)
Tuesday May 15, 2012, 8:01 am
From Capitalism at a Dead End:

there are rumblings of resistance from down below that are
sure to grow in frequency and intensity as the crisis deepens and
workers, communities, students and youth come under even
greater pressure and suffer even greater hardships.
No one can know when and how the struggle will grow and
spread. The only certainty is that it will.

Past Member (0)
Tuesday May 15, 2012, 8:48 am
There is kernel of truth in that. It's always amusing to me. when these charlatans condemn the newer bibles, written in American English as spoken today. They prefer the arcane "King James" version, written in Elizabethan English. More of a Shakespearean play, than anything. I guess it's easier to twist things around preaching from a text that an ordinary person can't easily comprehend, on their own.

Jason S (50)
Tuesday May 15, 2012, 9:12 am
Capitalism been dieing for long time, it mean to no end, don't fix problems make by man for man to profit off out. we can do better if we choice too.

Lydia S (155)
Tuesday May 15, 2012, 9:15 am
Thanks Bee .

David C (75)
Tuesday May 15, 2012, 10:34 am
capitalism needs to go the way of the dinosaur and dodo....its killing the world, now its the time for it to be stopped....

Abdessalam Diab (145)
Tuesday May 15, 2012, 10:36 am
An enlightening book.Thanks Bee.

Joe R (190)
Tuesday May 15, 2012, 11:00 am
The future looks mighty grim.

Past Member (0)
Tuesday May 15, 2012, 11:14 am
the earth is our shared home, all beings under the truth of evolution are our family and to do good should be our shared religion. education is key to togetherness
we are change, silence is acceptance
life has value beyond measure
Peace and Love

Past Member (0)
Tuesday May 15, 2012, 11:25 am
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. Thomas Jefferson, (Attributed)

Kit B (276)
Tuesday May 15, 2012, 11:41 am

His bare bones facts are close to accurate. His promise of unveiling ideas of newly created thoughts to substitute for capitalism are just not in the article. I have studied enough history, political theory and social science to know that what we do not want is to return to the ideals of Lenin. If the only option allowed is to sublimate individuality to support the state collective, then he offers us nothing in this article. We need to look at functional paradigms, not just a recap of past failures.

Fiona Ogilvie (562)
Tuesday May 15, 2012, 11:50 am
Thank you, Joe, Michael, Armand and Nyack. What we have is not working.

Kit, I hope the full book will not be so bare bone. Marxism, pre-Lenin, should be reexamined. Truthfully, it has not been tried before and has not failed. Lenin's expedients were all detrimental to true Marxism.

Ellen m (215)
Tuesday May 15, 2012, 12:30 pm
I tried to check on what is the "preferred" version for the signing in of politicians, but couldn't find out anything definitive other than it is not even a requirement (good!)..they could probably just as easily get away with swearing or affirming using the Kama Sutra.

As for Socialism today, i daresay go to any Occupy event and you will see that there is no shortage of younger people at the booths set up by the American Socialist party, or people willing to promise them the world should they decide to get behind them...and i have to say i do resent to a certain degree their presence as they are not there to stand with us as a whole but rather to prey on the disenfranchised or impressionable.
I did find there presence at the Troy Davis rallies counter productive and distracting, and after attending one meeting to see what they were really all about feel there isn't a snowballs chance in hell for it to ever succeed in this country... Thanks Bee, but i think i'll pass on this read :-)

Cynthia Davis (340)
Tuesday May 15, 2012, 12:50 pm
Very good read TY Bee

Yvonne White (229)
Tuesday May 15, 2012, 12:52 pm
Since America really is a melting pot, why not just pick & choose our political theories & social ideals? The Constitution has Lived for almost 300 years - it should be our bare bones "bible"! Everything else is gravy..
What the 1%ers did not consider is that poor Americans Never intended to stay that way, and the Middle Class never Imagined being pushed down into the poor pit - so the New Masses are not your grandfather's "great unwashed", they are showering at the "Y" & pi$$ed off about it! Americans are used the being #1, even if it's only in their own minds. So we are not the 3rd World poor, or the Post-WWII European poor, we are Americans who have always been & will always be Entitled to Our Dreams! WE are Demanding, Irritating, and NOT the SILENT Majority! We will Never STFU!;) So politicians had better start Leading us Back to the Promised Land or we'll kick them to the ditch where they belong!

Rosie Lopez (73)
Tuesday May 15, 2012, 12:59 pm
thanks so much for sharing!!

Past Member (0)
Tuesday May 15, 2012, 1:03 pm
You cannot currently send a star to Kit because you have done so within the last week. shucks!
The new paradigm is definitely something the rich rulers will never be the first to reveal.
It could most easily be defined by compiling a list of their greatest fears for the future of Capitalism.
Capitalism is not the system we adhere to presently.
Capitalism would have punished Wall Street for their crimes against their investors.
If Capitalism were actually allowed to function, it might be more successful than we presently believe.
Capitalism is a financial structure, not a governing structure.
For too long the line has been blurred as the politicians are usually successful Capitalists and cannot resist furthering that career by selling their political influence to the highest bidders.
Absolute power has been another problem, when the courts stopped hearing individuals and became more or less a 'rubber stamp' sentencing program we lost our judicial balance. Now we are all presented with two alternatives, only being allowed to choose between them. There is another choice out there but it is for the strong and the brave. Until we find our personal strength and the courage to exercise that third choice we will remain at the mercy of the same old criminal gang that dominates Washington politics.
Lesser Of Two Evils

Agnes N (703)
Tuesday May 15, 2012, 1:41 pm
Thanks Betsy..

Fiona Ogilvie (562)
Tuesday May 15, 2012, 2:05 pm
True, Nyack. I could applaud the profit motive of that kid.

John B (185)
Tuesday May 15, 2012, 2:33 pm
Thanks for posting Fred Goldstein;s Pamphlet a very heady and great read. Read and noted. Thank you Bee.

Kamila A (141)
Tuesday May 15, 2012, 3:23 pm
Capitalism would work if the sociopathic ones who cheat, steal and hoard could be eliminated. These are the ones, like King James, who have always managed to manipulate things as they have. Competition and reward done for the greater good, in other words, a system of capitalism based on spiritual priniples, ie the Oneness principle, is the best system that supports life. Currently we live in a Draconian, ie evil or negative system run by sociopathic personality types. Romney is the perfect example of this type. He is completely wrong for the future of this nation.
It will be interesting to see how this country chooses. Religion is dead, and this article is great for helping people wake up and choose spiritually based ideas. We are humans, citizens of one little planet Earth, and we better choose wisely or we won't have anything and the irony is that if the cold blooded ones keep it up, they won't survive very long either.

Fiona Ogilvie (562)
Tuesday May 15, 2012, 4:17 pm
So true, Camila, Earth is shared with the 1% and they do not realize it is a fragile planet and they do not care and they seem bent ruining on our only home.

Nicole W (646)
Tuesday May 15, 2012, 4:36 pm
we can do better, but the 1% won't allow it because it affects their bottom line. :-(

mary f (200)
Tuesday May 15, 2012, 5:05 pm
most of the trouble in my country is caused by greed and bailing out banks while people wait for urgent operations on hospital trolleys there must be a better way

Lois Jordan (63)
Tuesday May 15, 2012, 5:37 pm
Very interesting--thanks for posting. Well, this lays it all out pretty well and makes complete sense to me. The system might have continued to work if massive greed and hoarding by the 1% hadn't turned America into a Fascist state. Yes, the SCOTUS ruling on Citizens United sped the process along. Replacing Glass-Steagall with Gramm-Leach-Bliley was a terrible error. Congress has only served to cater to the wealthiest; most members vote against the best interests of the majority of their constituents.....and those who signed Norquist's "pledge" are Corporatists who will never vote in the best interests of the 99%. The system IS broken, and all attempts to fix it are shouted down and eliminated. There seems to be no recourse for most of us--voting hasn't made any significant positive changes, especially if the machines are rigged and votes are counted improperly.
I've seen firsthand in my own family what the future holds and the writer is correct. My kids and grandkids will be beholden to the 1% for their daily bread, and the way things are going, will be lucky to get a slice so they don't starve to death. It's way past time for change, and this seems the likely direction to go.
Maybe the worst thing is that Democrats in Congress don't fight for what the party platform used to stand for. They gave up on too many issues and gave in to radically conservative bills that have deeply hurt those who can least afford to be hurt. Cutting "Meals on Wheels"? Privatizing Social Security? Significant cuts to Medicare? Possibly eliminating the tax break on homes? Raising college tuition? Not taxing the wealthy, subsidies to industries and companies that don't need them, allowing Wall St. to continue their gambling with our money, not breaking up the just continues, and the flow of money is now upward, hurting the rest of us and must end.

Carmen S (611)
Tuesday May 15, 2012, 6:09 pm
wow, this is very interesting, thanks Betsy for sharing this

JL A (281)
Tuesday May 15, 2012, 8:35 pm
anyone know what verses got added to that version of the Bible?

Mary T (178)
Tuesday May 15, 2012, 8:56 pm
Thanks Betsy, A very interesting article, Bookmarked it so I can go back and really read it good,Capitalism seems to only work for the ones that are already rich.

Fiona Ogilvie (562)
Tuesday May 15, 2012, 9:43 pm
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Ancil S (175)
Tuesday May 15, 2012, 10:58 pm
Thanks Betsy,I'm going to save the PDF file in my laptop to read later,looks interesting.

greenplanet e (155)
Tuesday May 15, 2012, 11:42 pm
Don't know what the answer is, but the system we have now is not working for planet and most people.

Peace Monger (185)
Wednesday May 16, 2012, 12:26 am
predatory capitalism works for only so long 'til the 'slaves to the machine' realise the truth of their programming. Capitalism on the whole is healthy as long as the goal is to bring much needed products to society which benefits & enhances life to all forms on our planet. Sustainability or the benefit to life as a whole aren't in the hand-guide of the present system. :-/

However... there is hope; humans are awakening to the reality we are responsible for the proper management of our planet & to do this, we must take our planet's resources back from those who seek to enslave.

WE (& our planet) are the ones we've been waiting for!

The first peace, which is the most important, is that which comes within the souls of people when they realize their relationship, their oneness with the universe and all its powers, and when they realize that at the center of the universe dwells the Great Spirit, and that this center is really everywhere, it is within each of us. ~Black Elk, Oglala Sioux

Penelope P (222)
Wednesday May 16, 2012, 1:10 am
Probable that James's commisioning it for thie purpose of controling the poor is not true-There was already at least one translation in English in Tudor times. The Bible was then banned as reading matter for the lower classes as it was considered too incendiary;Which of course it is!

The idea of using the bible to control the mob didn't really take till the nineteenth century ;As Marx points out,
the fright engendered by the French and other revolutions of the eighteenth century(there were lots all over Europe),caused the Bourgious to back religion and even in France to to get back into the pews and dine "Maigre"(fish only) on Sundays.

In Britian the Salvation Army and several other sects were heavilly financed by the wealthy to make the poor resigned to their ;lot.

It is in an essay of his on the origin of family and property

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Wednesday May 16, 2012, 4:37 am
This pamphlet was written by the Workers World Party, there are good facts in it, read it and learn something.
But the Workers World Party is one of the many "splinter" parties on the Left; it has been around for ages, is quite small, does not see "uniting" with any of the OTHER "splinter" parties on the Left; and has very little popular appeal, either in all the past decades, or now.
The Occupy Movement is much, much bigger than all the "splinter" parties combined. The various splinter parties, including the Workers World Party, the Revolutionary Communist Party {RCP}, and the International Socialist Organization {ISO}, and, for all I know, there may be others -- they hang around Occupy places, trying to recruit. They think this is "Da Beeg Ra-vo-lu-shun" they've been waiting for! Well, good luck to them {said with irony}. They are, by the way, NOT committed to Non-violent change! which is probably why they will fail. They try to get on the coat-tails of the Occupy Movement..... sorry if I offend anyone.
However, do read this and LEARN STUFF YOU OUGHT TO KNOW.

The stuff about the King James Bible is very mis-leading. Translating the Bible into various "common" languages, including English, was very much a PEOPLE'S movement. As was DISTRIBUTING these DANGEROUS translations across borders and oceans. Before that, the Bible was exclusively in LATIN, understood only by SOME educated Clergy, and the Catholic Church and the Power Structure tried to KEEP IT EXCLUSIVELY IN LATIN. Those who dared translate the Bible, were persecuted as Heretics and burned at the stake if caught!
Of course, the revolt reached a point where the Ruling Class HAD to take over this "people's movement". The King James Bible was based on the Wycliffe Bible, and he was a martyr for the cause. King James called a group of scholars together to make the best translation possible from the original languages. It was an attempt to unify the country and aid the Protestant cause against the hold-out Catholics.

While the Tudor and Stuart monarchs {King James was a Stuart}, while they or their officials, CENSORED the press -- of course! -- THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT DID NOT OWN OR CONTROL THE PRINTING PRESSES. You had to have a license to print something; however, all SORTS of people were printing all SORTS of things! Wine-importing was a government monopoly; PRINTING WAS NOT A GOVERNMENT MONOPOLY. Nor did the government think of making its own propaganda, like modern govts do. Of course, like in every country at that time, there WAS an official State religion, and you were REQUIRED to go to church and listen to the sermons! It was the PREACHERS who were actually the govt propagandists if you will, who were sometimes instructed by the govt what to preach on! ["Pray for the Queen/King", that sort of thing.]
It is just wrong to say that the British govt "controlled" the printing -- and the reading -- of the Bible. With the Bible fairly inexpensive as big fat books went, and becoming widespread, all sorts of Sects developed with their OWN interpretations..... Quakers, etc....... one such sect "revolted" against the king and came over here on the Mayflower..... another group of Bible fanatics made a Civil War and cut off the king's head [Charles I].... even uppity women dared make their OWN interpretations of the Bible and speak in Church [horrors!].
So religious analogies between present and past, in this instance, do not hold.....

Sofia Natsis (8)
Wednesday May 16, 2012, 8:46 am
Noted thanks.

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Wednesday May 16, 2012, 10:58 am
More "splinter" Left groups: the Socialist Workers Party {SWP}, the Freedom Socialist Party {FSP}, the International Workers of the World, the Wobblies {IWW}, not to be confused with the Workers World Party.

Altho these groups now engage purely in electoral politics {which NEVER has worked for them yet!}, they have never given up their dream of "Revolution" like Russia, China or Cuba -- armed workers. It just is that "it isn't the right time for it yet". They put out lots of written materials on history, and on THEORY. Worth being acquainted with! Some interesting ideas there.
But, I believe, this whole new Gandhian-Kingian ORGANIZED AND PURPOSEFUL NON-VIOLENCE thing is NOT where they are at. They are feebly trying to co-opt the Occupy Movement -- but, fortunately, they don't have the strength to do so! We outnumber all the splinter groups combined, by the THOUSANDS!

However, I am saying, read their stuff anyway, they certainly DO reveal stuff the Capitalist Press generally WON'T tell you! Then, don't go pick up a gun for "revolution" -- SUICIDE, these days! -- but, go to a workshop or read a book on NON-VIOLENT ACTION FOR SOCIAL CHANGE. Combine Knowledge, with Practical Wisdom, ya can't lose! We can trust people to consider various ideas, learn from all points-of-view, and think for ourselves, draw our OWN conclusions...... the best ideas, won't be kept down, we hope there will develop a Consensus......

Wednesday May 16, 2012, 1:08 pm
Like slavery, the industrial revolution, and serfdom capitalism has served it's purpose. Something new is needed and indeed is coming. There are already signs a kind of socialism in social security, medicare, public housing, and public education. No matter how hard the corporate elite try to take us back to servitude, it will not work.

Look at Europe and Latin America. The vast majority of the people are tired of market driven economies with the result being eventual austerity after the greedy banksters have driven their economies to the brink of collapse then the ruling elite attempt to solve deficits and debts they have built by cutting back on programs for the poor and middle class.

The people have decided that we are not going to take it anymore. Thanks Green Bee!

Fiona Ogilvie (562)
Wednesday May 16, 2012, 3:13 pm
Thank you, Terrance, something else is indeed coming.

Thank you, BMutiny, for your explanation of printing in the times of the Stuart and Tudor monarchs. I think that the one who lost his head, Charles I, was a son of James I. Imagine having to be the religion of your monarch. That was tyranny. You explained things very well.

Eternal G (734)
Wednesday May 16, 2012, 3:25 pm
Evolve and move on, capitalism is on it's last legs...

Ingrid A (524)
Wednesday May 16, 2012, 8:34 pm
Thank you Green Bee. Its noted.

Norm C (74)
Thursday May 17, 2012, 1:52 am
I wish that Socialism according to the dictionary definition were intergenerationally sustainable. Unfortunately, it is not in my opinion. But the core intent of it, if not quite the form, is. What I refer to is the worker-owned and worker-managed cooperative within a mixed economy. In my opinion that is the future if the human species is to have one at all.

Kristen H (25)
Thursday May 17, 2012, 8:08 am
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