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The Minerva Research Initiative: Buying Science for the Military

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The US Department of Defense wants to give away $50 million for "social science research" aimed at decoding terrorist recruitment, the growth of the Taliban and other social methodologies that will benefit the miitary. How many takers will there be?


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RC deWinter (418)
Sunday August 3, 2008, 7:19 am
While I can see a legitimate interest in wanting to discover more about how all this stuff works, will the research institutions that accept the government's Minerva money be free focus on what is scientifically important, or bound to report what the government wants to hear? Will the research, if disseminated, be gutted and twisted for the benefit of the defense department, like Cheney's people strangee the EPA and CDC?

RC deWinter (418)
Sunday August 3, 2008, 7:21 am
strangle that Medusa's snakes!

Joycey B (750)
Sunday August 3, 2008, 7:37 am
You hit the nail on the head Cate. Noted with thanks.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Sunday August 3, 2008, 7:44 am

Thanks, Cate.

The US Department of Defense should, more accurately, be called the Department of Offense.

Past Member (0)
Sunday August 3, 2008, 7:45 am
Blah blah blah is right..more money for distructive means by our government..I would like to see 50 million go to health care or education..Thanks Cate..noted

Joan Mclaughlin (133)
Sunday August 3, 2008, 7:50 am
Thanks Cate,NOTED

Todd R (45)
Sunday August 3, 2008, 7:52 am
Just think what that money could do for the good of Our country.

Jessie Cross (295)
Sunday August 3, 2008, 7:56 am
They already know all they need to about the Taliban: (from an article I submitted about 2 days ago by Eric Margolis):

Taliban was created in the early 1990's during the chaos and civil war that engulfed Afghanistan after the Soviet invaders were driven out. Drawn from Pashtun tribes of southern Afghanistan, who make up half that nation's population, Taliban was a religious movement that took up arms to battle the Afghan Communists, stop the wide-scale rape of Afghan women, and halt banditry and the drug trade. Both Pakistan and the U.S. secretly aided Taliban.

Taliban, most of whom were mountaineers, imposed a draconian medievalist culture that followed traditional Pashtun tribal customs and Islamic law.

The U.S. quietly backed Taliban for possible use in Central Asia, against China in the event of war, and against Iran, a bitter foe of the Sunni Taliban. U.S. energy giants Chevron and Unocal negotiated gas and oil pipeline deals with Taliban. In 2001, Washington gave $40 million in aid to Taliban until four months before 9/11. The U.S. only turned against Taliban when, at Osama bin Laden's advice, it gave a major pipeline deal to an Argentine consortium rather than an American one.

Everything that happens in Afghanistan is based on tribal politics. Taliban came from the heart of the Pashtun tribal grouping, the world's largest tribe which also accounts for up to 20% of Pakistan's population. Tribal and clan loyalties trump all political alliances.

The Taliban leadership had nothing to do with 9/11, a plot that, according to European prosecutors, was hatched in Germany and Spain, not Afghanistan. Nor did it have anything to do with subsequent attacks ascribed to al-Qaeda. After 9/11, Secretary of State Colin Powell vowed to published a White paper demonstrating Osama bin Laden's culpability in the attacks. Curiously, the promised paper was never issued.

Osama bin Laden was a national hero of the anti-Soviet struggle, wounded six times in battle. Taliban's collective leadership, in keeping with the Pashtun code of hospitality and honor, refused U.S. demands to hand over bin Laden until Washington issued a proper extradition request with evidence of bin Laden's guilt and promised him a fair trial. Washington refused to go through legal channels and, instead, invaded Afghanistan.

WHAT MORE DO THEY NEED TO KNOW? They supported them.


Carolyn T (234)
Sunday August 3, 2008, 8:34 am
Noted. All those posting above mine, please take a nailed it so far as my thoughts/reactions are concerned. Thank you, Cate...well done, once again.

RC deWinter (418)
Sunday August 3, 2008, 8:52 am
Good one, Carole!

RC deWinter (418)
Sunday August 3, 2008, 9:26 am
Yes, Jessie, it's laughable. The US funded the Taliban against\ the Russians. I can't believe we did this without thoroughly researching the outfit. But then's the US government...maybe they just threw money at the problem as usual.

RC deWinter (418)
Sunday August 3, 2008, 9:27 am
Like the proverbial drop of water on a stone, I am going to keep mentioning Julie's petition until the goal of 1,000 signatures is reached. SIGN, spread the word! Justice for Julie THANK YOU!

Susan L (118)
Sunday August 3, 2008, 10:29 am
Noted and thank you.

Tim Redfern (581)
Sunday August 3, 2008, 10:36 am
This is so wrong on so many levels.

My dear friend Carole,
it would be so fitting if the
Dept. of "Defense" went back to
the original name it had before WW2:
The Dept. of WAR.

Thanks, Cate.

David Gould (155)
Sunday August 3, 2008, 10:52 am
Criminal profiling is not a new science...this just seems like another way of paying themselves more of your money to achieve very little...maybe people kill us because they don't like us...there that insight was free!

RC deWinter (418)
Sunday August 3, 2008, 11:24 am
And worth every penny, David...*grin*

Eternal Optimist (115)
Sunday August 3, 2008, 7:07 pm
Noted thank Cate. So right Tim, their real name is the Department of War!

Denice G (45)
Sunday August 3, 2008, 8:54 pm
Noted. There are many more places that money should go. Thanks Cate

Mary Neal (183)
Sunday August 3, 2008, 11:30 pm
Thanks, Cate. I hope everyone remembers these things and that we can get the GOP out of the White House in November!


. (0)
Monday August 4, 2008, 8:42 am
Noted and disgusted.

Terrie W (798)
Monday August 4, 2008, 4:30 pm
It is all beginning to sound like Charlie Brown's teacher.....

Wah wah...wah wah wah...wah...wah wah wah wah wah

The drone....

Imagine, like so many of us here have already premised....what all that money that is spent for NOTHING but the KILLING of people could do if directed towards education, healthcare, housing, employment, PEACE.


pete O (242)
Tuesday August 5, 2008, 2:21 am
funny name for it !

RC deWinter (418)
Tuesday August 5, 2008, 7:36 am
darling hippy pete...if you READ the story you would know that these fools named the project after the goddess of wisdom and warriors...LOL!

Bill McGlone (103)
Wednesday August 6, 2008, 2:38 pm
As a Social Worker I wonder where I fit in?

Wednesday August 6, 2008, 11:02 pm
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