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Georgian-Russian Conflict Nears Total Engagement


World  (tags: Georgia, Russia, war, conflict, invasion, Eastern Europe )

RC
- 3937 days ago - nytimes.com
Intensifying invasion and attacks from Russia are being met with increased resistance from Georgia. The powderkeg is about to explode. Don't miss the riveting photos of this tragic event.



   

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RC deWinter (418)
Saturday August 9, 2008, 11:46 am
Russian ground troops are being sent in to land on the coast of Georgia, and Russia has notched up its bombing. Putin left Beijing and is now in Vladikavkaz, a city in southern Russia on the border of Georgia where a large strategic military staging area is planning an full-scale invasion. The US, along with European allies, is throwing its full weight toward mediation, while debating whether or not to grant a request from Georgia to airlift its troops in Iraq home to defend their own country. Will Russia and Georgia be persuaded to step back and talk before all-out war is inevitable? Is Putin masterminding a re-annexation of former Soviet territory?
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 9, 2008, 12:13 pm
Such tragic news and war just continues to go universal. When do we ever learn as human beings..noted
 

Chris Nielsen (75)
Saturday August 9, 2008, 12:17 pm
There have been dead and wounded reported on both sides. They are fully engaged.
 

Joycey B (750)
Saturday August 9, 2008, 12:18 pm
I have been listeng to this on the news all day. I pray war does not break out. Thanks Cate.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 9, 2008, 12:29 pm
Cate Putin is waging "war" since the trade embargo and the price increase for natural gas - something Georgia totally relies on - sort of a black mail sheme. Nevertheless they done well - too well - as their economy was looking towards the west. I guess Putin deceided that this way of laying siege to this country was taking too long? Afterall what are embargos, but a modern siege?
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 9, 2008, 12:34 pm
Russia was WARNING - get this WARNING - NATO not to get involved (CNN News)
 

Tim Redfern (581)
Saturday August 9, 2008, 12:35 pm
This bears very close watching indeed.
Pray to whoever it is you pray to that
NATO does not get involved.
Thanks, Cate.
noted.
 

Marion Y (322)
Saturday August 9, 2008, 12:37 pm
Not good.
 

Jeff D (80)
Saturday August 9, 2008, 12:44 pm
This is a bad moon on the rise, and we "The Peoples", have voices. Start the hurricane up guys, it's time to sweep some bad assks out of the picture. By that I don't mean prevail war on anyone with violence, but with mass communication, petitions even, keep rockin the walls of violence till we shatter them with peace, freedom & human rights.

It's time for a serious society change, and democracy is the way to go.
 

Estella Ameigh (22)
Saturday August 9, 2008, 1:04 pm
Thanks Cate. Let there be peace on earth not war.
 

Jim Phillips (3247)
Saturday August 9, 2008, 1:14 pm
This situation makes me ill. Is it about oil... Is this about pro-western democracy...

The UN has a very important decision to make...

I would appreciate any updates in this comment section. Thanks ahead of time.

TY, Cate.

 

Linda H (199)
Saturday August 9, 2008, 1:29 pm
This is so tragic!I fear the end will not come too soon!Can we have a little peace for a while?
 

RC deWinter (418)
Saturday August 9, 2008, 1:33 pm
Too late! Georgia declares state of war with Russia Sigh...
 

RC deWinter (418)
Saturday August 9, 2008, 1:35 pm
Link:Georgia declares state of war with Russia Everybody, pray for peace, however you do it.
 

Pamela R (159)
Saturday August 9, 2008, 1:45 pm
Sending positive thoughts for the innocent citizens, and for a quick resolution to this very upsetting event.
 

Karen Williams (163)
Saturday August 9, 2008, 1:52 pm
Peace on Earth...Yes the words sound nice but from what I've seen/read throughout our world's history, up to this present day...it AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN! I'm sorry to employ such harsh words but this is the REALITY of the situation!
At present, I am all for Georgia to bomb the crap out of Russia and drive them back to "their side of town"! Look at the Russian war machine in comparison to what meager arms the Georgians have!(not to mention the almost non-existent manpower)! More power to the Georgians and Blessings upon your cause!
 

Joan Mclaughlin (133)
Saturday August 9, 2008, 2:09 pm
Thanks Cate.What can you say about killings and war?! It just makes me sick.
 

Nevaeh M (75)
Saturday August 9, 2008, 2:31 pm
Given the reality of violence and war, what should be done to create a universal and lasting peace? pray for peace thanks noted.
 

RC deWinter (418)
Saturday August 9, 2008, 2:36 pm
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/57/Justice-for-Julie-Amero">Sign
 

RC deWinter (418)
Saturday August 9, 2008, 2:37 pm
Dammit...Justice for JulieSign please, we're getting closer. Thank you for all you do and for caring.
 

RC deWinter (418)
Saturday August 9, 2008, 2:53 pm
A Reuters report - Casualty tolls in Caucasus conflict Also, just postedGeorgia calls for truce in South Ossetia I hope there IS a ceasefire, a truce and a diplomatic intervention - QUICKLY!
 

Margaret P (76)
Saturday August 9, 2008, 3:09 pm
noted, thanks, Cate
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 9, 2008, 3:09 pm
Just seen the latest reports on this on the news.Its awful. Thanks Cate
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 9, 2008, 3:09 pm
Last I heard on BBC WorldNews was that US and urggg my mind - I think European? troops are moving towards the region - guess they move them from Afghanistan?
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 9, 2008, 3:12 pm
Also Navy movement ...
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 9, 2008, 3:16 pm
For very good update go to

http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 9, 2008, 3:41 pm
EU, U.S. back Georgian call for truce in S.Ossetia
Sat Aug 9, 2008 6:25pm EDT
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSL768040420080809?virtualBrandChannel=10112
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 9, 2008, 4:00 pm
July 16 th - A history lesson

Geopolitical Diary: The Multiple Messages Of Military Movement In Georgia
http://www.stratfor.com/geopolitical_diary/title_geopolitical_diary_multiple_messages_military_movement_georgia

The US deployed 1000 personel to train Georgia's military ..... Russia does not like that ..... read and all is clear!
 

RC deWinter (418)
Saturday August 9, 2008, 4:41 pm
Why are they killing civilians ? Russian bombs hitting civilian targets And now ships in the Gulf? MORE BLOOD FOR OIL? Staggeringly unbelievable...here comes that big crisis for Georgie so he can call off elections while he struts around in his faux-flyboy jacket.
 

. (0)
Saturday August 9, 2008, 4:43 pm
Nato needs to stay out of it and we need to stay out of it, I read where bush warned Russia he best stay out and I will pray for these people who are being bombed. also praying for peace this County compared to them has not a chance. so sad. Thanks Cate
 

Marion Y (322)
Saturday August 9, 2008, 4:46 pm
"here comes that big crisis for Georgie so he can call off elections while he struts around in his faux-flyboy jacket."

Cate...my same thoughts. Martial Law...
 

Marion Y (322)
Saturday August 9, 2008, 5:19 pm
Article: War between Russia and Georgia orchestrated from USA

Russian officials believe that it was the USA that orchestrated the current conflict. The chairman of the State Duma Committee for Security, Vladimir Vasilyev, believes that the current conflict is South Ossetia is very reminiscent to the wars in Iraq and Kosovo.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20469.htm

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I tend to agree with this assessment. This is more of the same tactics used with used with Iraq. Go behind the house, make deals with the ally, then stand back innocently and act like we had nothing to do with it.

This battle smells...and it smells like Cheney's agenda...


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20469.htm
 

Blue Bunting (855)
Saturday August 9, 2008, 7:52 pm
WAR: Russian jets targeted major oil pipeline...
 

Brenda H (29)
Saturday August 9, 2008, 8:02 pm
NOT LOOKIN GOOD FOR OUR WORLD! THANKS CATE!
 

Aletta Kraan (146)
Saturday August 9, 2008, 8:27 pm
Noted , not a good thing !!
 

Denice G (45)
Saturday August 9, 2008, 8:32 pm
Sadly noted.
 

Blacktiger P (247)
Saturday August 9, 2008, 8:53 pm
Ah-hemmm, those soldiers sent in to train the citizens, were actually snipers sent to pick off people who would not sign over their land. Thing is not enough of them got shot so now the Big Guns are literally coming in. Get wise about this all, it is all about oil and gas, not getting the wee country back. Though if it goes that far Putin will be happy, 'cuz then he can run his pipelines through to the water.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 9, 2008, 11:41 pm
I'm against war!Gerorgia is near to my country...
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 9, 2008, 11:56 pm
Maria Oniga

WE ARE ALL AGAINST WAR

And Georgia is near to my country and near to the world. Enviromental pollution such as DU will yet affect us all - plants and animals included. What ever happens you are in it.
Sadly some people still deem themselves "safe" - they have not realized that there is no more safe.
 

ANNE Lx (69)
Sunday August 10, 2008, 1:57 am
yeah...just what the world needs....more violence...sigh
 

Brent Bartholomew (82)
Sunday August 10, 2008, 4:27 am
I RODE THE EMTRAX WITH A NICE 22 YEAR OLD GIRL FROM MOSCOW,SHE WAS AMASED I NEED SOME RUSSIAN. I WENT THERE IN 100- WITH A GROUPE PEACE THRU SPORTS, WE WERE 20 MASSAGE THEREAPIST. WANTING TO EXCHANGE MASSAGE TECNIQUES. IT WAS A FUN MONTH. MY NEW FRIEND SAID THE PEOPLE LOVE THE CHANGE NOW THAT THE OIL $$$$ bhas improved there lifes its the usa were peoples life are fallking apart its from this congress 30 years of greed the same people in our congress suport the oil companys so much we went to war to secure we have more it all for control of oil since the usa has only 3% of the world oil we need to end the addiction we need to go back to 1920 when henry t ford with hempn instead of plactic made from oil hemp can & will save theusa we just need people with sense in our congrass.ford made bio0disel from hemp he made his modle a
 

Dolores H (2)
Sunday August 10, 2008, 4:59 am
Another outrageous war! Georgian troops have now pulled out of South Ossetia and talks of a cease-fire are on the table. I pray this ends soon.
 

RC deWinter (418)
Sunday August 10, 2008, 2:11 pm
Russia is loaded for bear. Russian Ground Forces Assault Vital Georgian City I think they're determined to grind Georgia into the dust and hold that pipeline hostage.
 

Marion Y (322)
Sunday August 10, 2008, 2:33 pm
Cate...Russia has had plenty of classroom training watching Bush's attack on Iraq.
 

RC deWinter (418)
Sunday August 10, 2008, 2:50 pm
Well, frankly, Marion, I think Russia will be more "successful" in Georgia than we have been in Iraq...more's the pity.
 

David Gould (155)
Sunday August 10, 2008, 3:20 pm
As always it is the innocent that suffer...family members, lifelong friends killed or terribly injured, familiar places shelled into rubble, that pervaiding sense of betrayal an unreality as the secure becomes the desert of violence. One side or another might cliam victory but the real loosers are those whose lives have been wrecked beyond repair. Our hearts bleed for them...but mankind never learns...never listens...and so back we go to scenes familiar in any war torn country.
 

Emma Beverage (11)
Monday August 11, 2008, 11:48 am
My sister has been predicting World War III for almost two years now. I guess her prediction is about to come true! If you get to the bottom of most wars somebody with big money was manipulating politicians to do their dirty work for them somewhere along the line. You and I can't walk into a bank and rob it but our politicians can use the common people for cannon fodder and start a war anytime they please! As long as the common people allow those whose addiction to greed is out of control, ... as long as we allow them to control our governments we will continue to have wars. I don't know how to give the control back to the common people but I have a sense that it will have something to do with us learning to control our own tendancy towards greed. We will need to give up our desire for instant gratification. Quit buying because we WANT something and only buy what we NEED. Change our values from trying to keep up with the Jones' to valuing compassion and value those who help others. Our heros should be those who contribute to the improvement of life on earth. By improving life on earth I don't mean by inventing a new toy that everyone wants to buy right now. For example stop buying new cloths to keep up with the latest fashion and wear the perfectly good cloths that are hanging in your closet, wear them until they are wore out. Recycle,trade off the things you no longer need for what you do need and try to consume less. This will feed those who are addicted to Greed, this will FEED THEM LESS PROFITS and leave a smaller footprint on this earth. Create less strain on the earth for our having passed through here. Okay, I feel helpless to change what those in power are doing and so I am rambling but I do feel it boils down to greed and we must stop allowing this addiction to control how we as a people behave.
 
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