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"Torturing Democracy"--in 3 Parts


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: Torture, Govtfearmongering, constitution, corruption, Gitmo )

Janet
- 3623 days ago - torturingdemocracy.org
Part 1: From 9/11 to waterboarding:The inside story Part 2. From the CIA to Guantanamo:[Copying harsh Communist interrogation methods]Part 3. While hundreds of men remain imprisoned in Guantanamo, Congress grants immunity to U.S. officials



   

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serge vrabec (278)
Saturday November 15, 2008, 2:25 pm
It is great to see this part of OUR history coming to a close, I AM glad to see a surge of new WILL from the people and the government that is ending this chapter in history. Lets just leave it all behind and start creating some NEW stuff, Together, Thx Janet

Gitmo will close, soon.
 

serge vrabec (278)
Saturday November 15, 2008, 2:26 pm
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Judith Jaehn (199)
Saturday November 15, 2008, 2:36 pm
I have watched part of this but my husband and I are watching this tonight! I am sorry but I can't leave this behind! Crimes have been committed! People must pay for this! War crimes are against the law! And the law has been broken by the powerful as they laugh in our faces! No! I will not leave this behind!! Never! Thank you dear Janet! Noted!
 

Scott Shaubel (816)
Saturday November 15, 2008, 3:02 pm

I'm with Serge,.. and Janet

It is great to see this part of OUR history coming to a close,


 

Past Member (0)
Saturday November 15, 2008, 3:20 pm
Thanks for the submission Janet. I truly hope we are headed for new and exciting vistas.
 

Lydia S (71)
Saturday November 15, 2008, 4:46 pm
Thanks, Janet ... I hope that this part of our history is indeed coming to a close. I pray that we will see some accountability, but more importantly -- that JUSTICE will prevail! I hope that the Unconstitutional, Illegal laws & Acts will be repealed and our rights restored. NOTHING LESS WILL DO!

May we see Peace and Prosperity, Truth & Justice return. I am tired of feeling disillusioned, cynical, and angry!



POWER TO THE PEOPLE!
 

David Gould (155)
Saturday November 15, 2008, 5:27 pm
Will those who committed these crimes ever stand and have to answer for what they have done to a court of law? Even if they are they will be treated decently. The world must not tollerate this Nazi disregard to basic human rights. I have watched the first third..i have come up for air....but I know what is coming is worse...much worse...i have heard Begg speak/

What I do know is that if GWB and his criminal henchmen think they can evade justice in this world...by hell they will find it in the next...
 

David Gould (155)
Saturday November 15, 2008, 5:28 pm
I Used To Be Proud of my Country

I use to be proud to be British
I thought its cause was just
but now I not so sure of that
Iíve been made to think again

I used to be proud to be British
I thought its justice was fair
but now Iíve seen the other side
I see things differently now

I used to be proud to be British
Its Union flag flew up high
but now we been made part of
dark deeds that shouldnít be

I used to be proud to be British
and held my head up high
but that was before our wars
and these secret torture camps

I used to be proud to be British
but now I hang my head
we lock up innocent people
before deporting them for death.

I am no longer proud of my country
its name now means shame
we are worse that many others
because we should know better.

David © 9th September 2008
 

David Gould (155)
Saturday November 15, 2008, 6:32 pm
OK I have watched all three parts now and I have to say it was every bit as bad as I feared. How any of this has been allowed to happened while the chief architects of such crimes write laws that free them from any due legal process is astounding, disturbing and downright dishonest. This whole war on terror has been based upon lie after lie and conducted in a manner that would have pleased Hitler himself.
 

Raja G (142)
Saturday November 15, 2008, 11:04 pm
Who will bring out the horrors from many such GTNMOs in many countries around the world. We only saw the glympse of such torture cells of USSR Iraque and Afghanistan.
Human beings are the most reacherous creatures on this planet.
 

Tony Fields (342)
Sunday November 16, 2008, 3:51 am
Whoaaa, thankz Janet and everyones inspiring comments, well let us hope that such human behaviour as this remains history, and never allowed to resurface...crikey, humankind iz so sick...tho kharmic law will catch up them, thricefold...
 

Scott Shaubel (816)
Sunday November 16, 2008, 10:53 am

now that yous have found out that part is all real, maybe you will have time to think about the rest of reality, like all the stuff I (and everyone else that wants to)have been going through and telling all about it.

.. God Consciousness, ether, lizzy, etc.etc.etc.

.. why would I make that stuff up... and get ridiculed for it.

 

Past Member (0)
Sunday November 16, 2008, 10:56 am
This is the sickness to end all sicknesses?...Guess that, or something very similar, has been said before and things only got worse...Hopefully the New US regime will help to slow the onslaught of such gross stupidity a little?...

Thanks for the article Janet and thanks for fwd David..Great poem, Works just as well (nearly) stet British, insert American :)...

Surely the only thing that may stop Cheney/Bush for being tried for war crimes is instant Impeachment?...Lot's of talk, no action (yet)?...

Now that all here are understandably depressed (The truth can do that) and, I certainly hope, ANGRY...Relax and...

Check out Amnesty International\'s virtual campaign to tear down Guantanamo Bay. By signing their pledge, you get to take down one pixel. Once 500,000 people have signed, the virtual Guantanamo Bay will come down. Join me and get your own pixel.

http://tearitdown.org.

If you follow the link at the end of amnestys' "tearitdown" site you will find a place to petition various entities, including Obama, requesting that an end to torture, Guantanamo etc be given top priority by the new administration to CEASE!...

Sorry folks, it's another cut and paste...ONE day, sigh, I'll get it right in blue...HELP! :)
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday November 16, 2008, 11:11 am
"Relax"...My comment, above, is a little off the mark...But the link http://tearitdown.org is an invitation for YOU to do something positive about ending this 'disease'...THEN you can relax in the knowledge that you have contributed a little medicine of your own...
 

Judith Jaehn (199)
Sunday November 16, 2008, 6:57 pm
Thanks David! I feel a tiny bit better! I signed! # 144,425!
 

Elderberry T (201)
Sunday November 16, 2008, 7:45 pm
Bush, Cheney,Rumsfeld, Rice and everyone in the CIA for starters NO ONE SHOULD BE ABOVE THE LAW. Blair inc.
We none of us can move on...folks ALL THE WAR CRIMES THESE PEOPLE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ARE STILL HAPPENING!! THEY NEED TO BE ARRESTED AND CHARGED! THESE KILLING FIELDS OF IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN AND NOW PAKISTAN ARE NOW!!!!!!!!
WE CAN'T SWEEP IT UNDER ANY CARPETS NOR ALLOW ANYONE ELSE TO. HUNDREDS ARE STILL DETAINED AND TORTURED SECRETLY WITHOUT CHARGE...THEY HAVE BEEN EFFECTIVELY KIDNAPPED/ABDUCTED WITHOUT ANY RIGHTS WHATSOEVER.
AND DO YOU REMEMBER FALLUJA?
WHITE PHOSPHOROUS WAS THE WEAPON OF CHOICE THERE!..THE WHOLE TOWN.WIPED AND EVERYONE IN IT...ITS SUPPOSEDLY BANNED/ILLEGAL. JUSTICE IS THE VERY LEAST THAT WE CAN OFFER IN RETURN FOR ALL THE DEVASTATION. DON'T THINK THAT ALL THIS IS GOING TO BE FORGOTTEN SO EASILY. CULTURES AND LIVELIHOODS AND BEEN REDUCED TO DUST....CLINGING ON BY FINGERNAILS IF THEY HAVE ANY.
AS OBAMA AND HIS ADVISORS ADVOCATE MORE TROOP ACTION...IS THAT WITH OR WITHOUT CLUSTER BOMBS BY THE WAY....I WILL GLADLY SIGN AGAINST MORE WAR..

 

Past Member (0)
Sunday November 16, 2008, 11:26 pm
Anyone have a link to a current 'impeach! site'???
 

Vijay Tankha (28)
Monday November 17, 2008, 6:26 am
I wonder if the Muslim community will ever apprecite the amount of good will and effort that has gone into the closing down of the Guantanamo Prison.. The kind of attrocities that were perpetrated upon the people of Afghanistan does not bear thinking about. These people are merciless. It should be remembered that a leopard does not change its spots. When they are freed they will be back to their old terror tactics with a vengence and woe betide the hapless caught by them.
 

Denice G (45)
Monday November 17, 2008, 4:45 pm
thank you Janet and David. Thank the Goddess GTMNO will be closed soon, not soon enough. I feel such shame for t;he US. I have more to say but I have hurt my wrist and it is too difficult to type right now. Blessings to you all
 

Lynnzie S (40)
Monday November 17, 2008, 6:23 pm
This story must be told!!
 

Sir Walk F (124)
Friday December 5, 2008, 1:52 pm
I'd most likely tell someone whatever they wanted to hear, no matter how implausible and absurd, if they were doing that to me what is depicted in the above image. Just looking at it makes me want to confess!
 
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