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Michael Sandstrom (306)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 12:52 am
Noted C, I thought I was the only one who had to work 3rd shift??? {:-), can't watch it at work but will catch it when I get home... Big Brother at work has "You Tube" Blocked and "my space" and , you get it....

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 12:54 am

This video is an absolute "Must See" -- before it "disappears."


Carole Sarcinello (338)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 12:55 am

And if you DON'T wanna know . . .

Go watch Bill O'Reilly!

Jim Phillips (3247)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 1:05 am
TY, Just Carole.

Lauren Stone (586)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 1:10 am
You cannot currently send a star to Just because you have done so within the last week.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 1:13 am


If you are capable of copying this -- DO IT!

If you care -- LET OTHERS KNOW!

Don't be afraid of spreading it . . . BE MORE AFRAID OF NOT!


Carole Sarcinello (338)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 1:33 am

Lauren, you already know your star is golden.


Tj H (14)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 1:39 am
*C* ya want a copy, click the info bar, and E~mail the poster/author, sure he'll be glad to help

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 2:13 am

TJ - Just copy and distribute it.

Dana H (229)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 2:47 am
TY *C* forwarding it now.

Alf I (246)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 2:57 am
Thanx Carole, I posted this 2 weeks ago, it must have been copied already meaning it is circulating well. Keep it up waking up America!!!

Past Member (0)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 3:25 am
Noted and shared. Thank you1

Michele DiGiorgi (320)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 4:03 am
Thanks to all who forwarded. Wado, {ty} Princess *C* your a special lady who always will wake America up hon..Namaste'...dohiyi, igido. This is copied and noted. Your great sweetie..

Robert Richardson (185)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 4:08 am
noted and shared my friends thanks for sending it to me

Hans L (958)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 4:40 am
Dear Carole!
Thank you for this information do you know when Hery Ford lived?
The revolution will never come...
You would need people power but the system does not allow
people power....
GWB has never been in Power America is ruled by the people who
controle this system....
It has been working perfect for many many years and it will
work perfect for the happy few for many many years to come
15.04.2008 a very special date i would hope that for you!
i am sorry for all the people of the USA! Forget that you can
change it no Obama co Clinton nobody will change this!
You are not even allowed to choose the president you want....
That is also done by the system...

I am glad that i live in Europe in a true democracy!

All the best to all friends in America some of you have allready
received my list of countries in Europe where you can live the live
that you deserve! Finland Holland Austria


Chakwaina E (125)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 4:51 am
I have seen this and passed it around to my private mailing list, never thought about putting it here!
You can get free programs on the 'net that will dl this video and convert it (they are trial versions) I think CNet is one of the places that has these programs.

Past Member (0)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 5:04 am

Thomas R (199)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 5:44 am
Thanks, Carole. More Americans need to stop paying taxes. If anyone hasn't seen the films "America: From Freedom to Fascism" and "Zeitgeist", i suggest you do so. They reveal more truth regarding the Federal Reserve Bank.

Michael Sandstrom (306)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 6:06 am
It has been downloaded... and WILL be spread has far has I can spread it!!

Past Member (0)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 6:08 am

Delliana O (241)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 7:33 am
Awesome, Thanks Just C!

Stephen Hannon (203)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 8:18 am
John D Rockefeller founded the Federal Reserve Bank in 1876, and set up the bank as a usary only, which means the money the bank loans to the federal government can not ever be paid back, and only the interest on the loan is paid, and nothing goes to the principal, therefore the debt cannot ever be repaid. The Federal Reserve Bank OWNS the US government.
What is striking about John D Rockefellr is the fact that he was a patato digger before he founded his bank. Everyone believes the bank was founded in 1913, but it wasn't. Before 1913 no working man or woman paid federal income tax. Then in 1933 Social Security was born under the FDR adminstration, and we have been getting screwed ever since. I have not paid federal income tax in over 15 yrs, and I have not ever been audited by the IRS the real thieves behind the banks. The IRS is a legal criminal enterprise founded by our elected officials. There has been talk in Congress regarding closing down the IRS, and raising sales taxes as means to make up what the IRS thieves won't be taking from us anymore. By eliminating the IRS the sales taxes will go to each individual state to pay for services need in each state. The working class will keep the money that the IRS currently steals from them every year. I will participate in the strike on April 15, '08. That's a guarantee...

Melissa Dawson (284)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 9:08 am
Hans, Although I understand that the odds are against us, what are we to do? This IS OUR COUNTRY and WE MUST AT LEAST TRY to change what is wrong. Heck, most of us don't even have the money to re-locate to another country, even if we wanted to. There are times when I just want to "throw in the towel", but MY life and MY famly are all here, and I just CANNOT give up hope. That little bit of HOPE is what gets me out of bed everyday, and I sincerly HOPE that we cannot only get this country on track, but the world as well. I WILL NOT GIVE UP. I have no choice. My family has never raised jellyfish, we have spines.
Hoping for as much support from our Friends in "Other" countries, we need all the help we can get!

Past Member (0)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 9:48 am
Carol I just emailed it to myself & I can still open it...if you give me your email address I will send it to you...Joyce
I agree Melissa ...this is our Country & we have to keep trying...we have to continue for the future of our children and their children etc...noted

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 9:51 am

Thanks Joyce -- and all who have noted and/or commented. I have it on my profile and a friend has copied it. (Thank you, Michael.) I think the concern was that it would disappear from YouTube (which has happened in the past to other controversial videos).


Elisa M (93)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 9:58 am
The US income tax is a fraud and that there is nothing in the tax code

that says you have to pay tax on your labor!!!

Please investigate for yourselves.

Thank you and Bless you Carole for sharing.

Goddess Lozz (213)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 12:39 pm
I knew that income tax was illegal but this explains it in good detail, going to post it on my Myspace!!
Thanks Carole!

Tuesday March 11, 2008, 12:45 pm
confused all the income tax money goes to banks were does all the other money for education, roads ,military , etc come from .......

please please please explain that to me

Past Member (0)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 1:14 pm
Hans, remember, America was occupied by the Europeans.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 1:22 pm
The FED creates money from nothing, and loans it back to us through banks, and charges interest on our currency. The FED also buys Government debt with money printed on a printing press and charges U.S. taxpayers interest. Many Congressmen and Presidents say this is fraud. Who actually owns the Federal Reserve Central Banks? The ownership of the 12 Central banks, a very well kept secret, has been revealed: 1. Rothschild Bank of London 2. Warburg Bank of Hamburg 3. Rothschild Bank of Berlin 4. Lehman Brothers of New York 5. Lazard Brothers of Paris 6. Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York 7. Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy 8. Goldman, Sachs of New York 9. Warburg Bank of Amsterdam 10. Chase Manhattan Bank of New York.

These bankers are connected to London Banking Houses which ultimately control the FED. When England lost the Revolutionary War with America where our forefathers were fighting their own government, they planned to control us by controlling our banking system, the printing of our money, and our debt. The individuals listed below owned banks which in turn owned shares in the FED. The banks listed below have significant control over the New York FED District, which controls the other 11 FED Districts. These banks also are partly foreign owned and control the New York FED District Bank: First National Bank of New York, James Stillman National City Bank, New York, Mary W. Harnman, National Bank of Commerce, New York, A.D. Jiullard Hanover, National Bank, New York, Jacob Schiff, Chase National Bank, New York, Thomas F. Ryan, Paul Warburg, William Rockefeller, Levi P. Morton, M.T. Pyne, George F. Baker, Percy Pyne, Mrs. G.F. St. George, J.W. Sterling, Katherine St. George, H.P. Davidson, J.P. Morgan (Equitable Life/Mutual Life), Edith Brevour, T. Baker.

Past Member (0)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 1:30 pm
Cut the crap! Ibrahem, Isac and Jacob! Irısh music was nice!

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 1:32 pm

Hit a nerve, Nur? (hehehe)

Past Member (0)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 1:44 pm
It's totally alright by me, that you think so! I have never tried to be the super power on this planet, nor the best on not caring to much to make a difference!

Micahel Dewey (1021)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 1:54 pm
Cool. There is a book out too written over a 100 years ago, The Coming Battle. It explains how the "money power" had caused the depressions and things, of the 18-hundreds.

Scott Shaubel (816)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 2:05 pm

.. the truth is sometimes painful.

Past Member (0)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 2:24 pm
Hi Carole, my wife and I are watching a lot of You-Tube clips, and interviews about this, lately.
Once you go into this, it never ends, as it seems ...
There's so much to find about this subject.
It's like we are running out of time, or should I say, they are running out of time, and that they want all people to be micro-chipped, etc.
Noted, and tnx for posting

Past Member (0)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 2:34 pm
Copied and forwarded to friends/family. Thanks C.

Marcy S (73)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 3:07 pm
The "slaves" are awakening by the thousands don't worry, it's just not reported on Fox or CNN (The Master's news stations...). The Time, to wake up everybody, is NOW, and to start thinking for yourself and care enough to do something together!!!!!

Melissa Dawson (284)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 3:14 pm
Marcy, I HAVE to BELIEVE you are RIGHT! BLESS YOU!!!!

Sharon Ross (216)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 3:22 pm
Noted thank you Carole, downloaded & now i'm copying video thanks.

Thomas Paine (0)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 3:23 pm
A federal sales tax would unfairly burden the poor/working class because there are far more of them. While I don't like the FED I also don't like the Libertarian alternatives. Programs like Social Security and regulation like the SEC came about because Laisez-Faire brought us the crash of 1929 and the subsequent depression.

As The Thomas Paine said : Man is greedy and Government is a necessary evil. (paraphrase)

Past Member (0)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 3:32 pm
have any of you ever read a book called "None Dare Call It Conspiracy"?... the whole thing was laid out in that years ago... of course the book was banned shortly after it came out... my mother has a copy of it... i come from a family of widely read banned books... hehehe... i have this copied and will forward it, thanks carole...;)

Brandy Huston (230)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 4:01 pm
Noted and will repost in my group. Thanks C.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 4:18 pm

Just wanted to say that Evert is absolutely right. If you Google the phrase "Theft By Deception," there is a TON of information, including many of the videos referenced in comments here.

Elle J (276)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 4:22 pm
Noted! Thanks Carole. Are you aware that the 16th ammendment regarding income tax was only possibly ratified by 4 states? There is a book that I would recommend reading. " The Late Great USA by Jerome Corsi. I will copy this and send it to everyone I know.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 4:46 pm

Federal Income Tax Piechart

Current Military
$965 billion:
• Military Personnel $129 billion
• Operation & Maint. $241 billion
• Procurement $143 billion
• Research & Dev. $79 billion
• Construction $15 billion
• Family Housing $3 billion
• DoD misc. $4 billion
• Retired Pay $70 billion
• DoE nuclear weapons $17 billion
• NASA (50%) $9 billion
• International Security $9 billion
• Homeland Secur. (military) $35 billion
• State Dept. (partial) $6 billion
• other military (non-DoD) $5 billion
• “Global War on Terror” $200 billion [We added $162 billion to the last item to supplement the Budget’s grossly underestimated $38 billion in “allowances” to be spent in 2009 for the “War on Terror,” which includes the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan]

Past Military,
$484 billion:
• Veterans’ Benefits $94 billion
• Interest on national debt (80%) created by military spending, $390 billion

Human Resources
$789 billion:
• Health/Human Services
• Soc. Sec. Administration
• Education Dept.
• Food/Nutrition programs
• Housing & Urban Dev.
• Labor Dept.
• other human resources.

General Government
$304 billion:
• Interest on debt (20%)
• Treasury • Government personnel • Justice Dept.
• State Dept.
• Homeland Security (15%)
• International Affairs
• NASA (50%)
• Judicial
• Legislative
• other general govt.

Physical Resources
$117 billion:
• Agriculture
• Interior
• Transportation
• Homeland Security (15%)
• Commerce
• Energy (non-military)
• Environmental Protection
• Nat. Science Fdtn.
• Army Corps Engineers
• Fed. Comm. Commission
• other physical resources

Victoria Chapman (53)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 4:50 pm
This hit a nerve and I researched and read many Annual Reports the Fed supplied to Congress. Interests are not of the supposed 10 primary stockholders, but in Privatization of Commercial Banks and their stock holders. The Fed protects some consumers and the only thing we can do is withdraw our funds and not use banks or financial institutions. Grams kept her cash in the mattress and did not have credit. Do the same and the system will fall. Self Educate, Don't Regurgitate! Stop being Sheeple!

Mick Gill (119)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 5:33 pm
Two Thousand years ago the money lenders in Rome took the gold from people and gave them receipts on paper, Julius César took control of those money lender and the money back in the peoples hands He was assonated

Two thousend years later we still have paper money and not gold if we go out of our countries this paper is worthless.
thank you for the video the awakening has started

leeda luciano (27)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 7:12 pm
maybe Ron Paul had it right

Eduardo L (101)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 7:58 pm
Thanks Carole! We have been slaves for decades, but are never able to pay for the deficit and huge federal expense. There isn't much that we get back from our government.

Onedia P (32)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 8:52 pm
The last year i worked ..somehow my accountant slipped up ..first time in ALL the years I worked..Somehow I owed $777.00 in back taxes.. weird amount, I know . Anyway I called a tax lawyer to see what I could do about this ..I was told ..Just Pay It.. seems that Tax lawyers don't help you (not even to get an extension..) if you owe LESS than $10,000...Don't believe me , call one yourself...The little guy has to pay his taxes, but if you are one of the big guys and you owe OVER $10,000 only pay pennies on the dollar....That's kind of a neat trick..considering I've yet to see a law that said we HAVE to pay taxes in the first place..Have you..??..Think about it...There has NEVER been a law yet that has been passed that states we are to pay any kind of Income Tax....Like I said neat trick.

Lydia S (71)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 9:12 pm
It's sad how many of us in the US are unaware of our history -- especially Thomas Jefferson and the Democratic Republicans -- who were opposed to the Federalists. It was the Anti-Federalists, led by Thomas Jefferson, who ensured freedom for the people by writing the Bill of Rights.

The Federalists, on the other hand, were mostly aristocrats, who wanted to consolidate power in the hands of a few elites. They wanted to set up the "Federal Reserve", national treasury, etc., to control the people through banking and finance.

I highly recommend a reading of "A People's History of the United States", by Howard Zinn! EYE OPENER!

serge vrabec (278)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 10:04 pm
GREAT IDEA!! This is so uplifting to see, we must begin now........will foward and think positive thoughts for that day, starting now. Thanks so much Melissa and Carole!!! The battle for this country and the world is just beginning for the good people , how can it be lost? What are you PREPARED to do?

Sandra M Z (114)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 10:08 pm
30 years ago a man from WY told me that I didn't have to pay income taxes. I was young and thought he was goofy. I'd sure have some $$$ today if I had researched what he was telling me! Income taxes are only to be collected on Capital gains, like on stocks and CORPORATE PROFITS. NOT ON WAGES OF CITIZENS!
I'se seen this and forwarded on to many who wouldn't otherwise be exposed to this info. Noted, thanks Carole.

Melissa Kush (3)
Tuesday March 11, 2008, 11:56 pm
You think THAT'S bad...take a look at my new video! Georgie slipped the REAL ID inside an emergency war spending and tsunami relief bill on May 10, 2005. Penndot highway dept, in my state, has already spent boo-coo bucks on how and when to implement the ID. Where would you like your Identification Chip, ladies and gentlemen?
Welcome to the New World Order, heralded in by the Bush mob family.

Darlene K (356)
Wednesday March 12, 2008, 2:01 am
Victoria C., excellent reply. I have been saying that for years. It starts with the "people". In my younger years, one of my major choices, heh, was political science, and you definitely learn the sick history of the system, and how "the people" have always controlled the power of it.

I so agree with your statement, "The Fed protects some consumers and the only thing we can do is withdraw our funds and not use banks or financial institutions." YES, YES, YES. Don't use the banks, Don't use credit cards = Don't feed the beast. This is the best way to bring down the system in with positive energy within the people. The problem is...., not enough Americans are willing to give up the Credit, and luxuries for its people to regain control of its government. TRUTH is painful...

Warren Motter (1055)
Wednesday March 12, 2008, 2:14 am
So, we do this April 15th thing. Then, what?

Kathy Chadwell (354)
Wednesday March 12, 2008, 2:55 am
I knew I loved that music:)
Why do you think Dennis Kucinich was removed from the debates?
Kucinich won't play ball with these dangerous people and now he's been removed from running along with Ron Paul. Doesn't anybody else think it strange the two most people popular candidates are out of the running without any of us having a chance to vote for them? I'm writing Kucinich in.
I urge Kucinich and Paul to run together on an independent ticket. I'm tired of corporate puppets in the white house. I want a People's President

Lydia S (71)
Wednesday March 12, 2008, 3:29 am
Kathy C -- You're absolutely right! There is NO ONE else running for President, who is WORTHY of our vote! I am an election official in the state of Virginia. There were many voters who came to the Primary and deliberately "spoiled" the ballot, darkening every circle on the ballot in protest.

When one of my co-workers said: "Well, what was the point of that", I said, "They're saying it doesn't matter WHO they vote for -- the election is rigged!"

I caused a big stink, because I said "the only candidates worth voting for are slowly being squeezed out of the race. The people are FED UP!"

I'm not sure I will work this next election. It just seems pointless to me anymore!

Ginger S (115)
Wednesday March 12, 2008, 4:44 am
very interesting. thanks for posting

Past Member (0)
Wednesday March 12, 2008, 6:37 am
A must see is a documentary presentation called Zeit Geist... Why sleep walk when you can fully awaken.

Past Member (0)
Wednesday March 12, 2008, 6:44 am

Past Member (0)
Wednesday March 12, 2008, 8:41 am
For those desiring a detailed explanation of our debt based economy here is one of the best ever presented. This is a 2 hour presentation of the spirit of our times and really is enlightening. For the ritualistically religious it will be an endurance. this is the newly re-mastered version of Zeitgeist:

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Wednesday March 12, 2008, 9:15 am

Thanks, Sarah . . .

I'll be checking those out!

King Jones (149)
Wednesday March 12, 2008, 9:31 am

This is a very interesting and informative video.

Thanks for posting for all of us to see, action is a must.


Kerry S (0)
Wednesday March 12, 2008, 11:38 am
Thanks for the video and thanks everyon efor your coments-most helpful and enlightening. Since 2005 I refused to pay for the war so i did not have my taxes done, now my wages are being garnished-funny thing though since i am self employed when i do get my taxes done i'll actually be getting most of that money back.
hmmm will check out articles etc...but thought i did read somewhere in constitution that we can be "taxed." would love to know how to do otherwise. would gladly take %s and give to support NEA and other programs though.

Past Member (0)
Wednesday March 12, 2008, 3:28 pm
I've seen the Zeitgeist movie, and even downloaded it, with Ares.
It's worth it, and absolutely reveiling a lot.
Now my wife and I understand, why there are many new concentration camps built ....
Carol, tnx for reminding me to check back ...

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Wednesday March 12, 2008, 4:43 pm

Post this as your profile video (if not now . . . then, close to 4/15):

Wednesday March 12, 2008, 6:29 pm
5 Stars to you C, No, make that 10 stars if this is such a thing!!!! I'm thrilled to see this. It is being said that many millions have awaken not just in America but worldwide. I pray the day comes very, very soon, when EVERYONE who can breathe is awake...........

Past Member (0)
Thursday March 13, 2008, 1:48 am
Love it!

Here's a 2 hour video that goes DEEP into this subject:


Carole Sarcinello (338)
Thursday March 13, 2008, 7:41 am

Thanks for the nudge, Terrah! So many people have mentioned it that I am going to force myself to sit still long enough to watch it today.

Merry L (74)
Thursday March 13, 2008, 11:39 am
Thanx Carole-Saw it in a reply on another petition and watched it last week. Excellect! Will go to your page, copy and send to all my address book!

L. T (34)
Thursday March 13, 2008, 12:56 pm
Thanks Richard for sharing and thanks Carole for posting! Have noted and will send out to family and friends too! I won't have any trouble doing what I need to on April 15th!!!!!! It's long overdue for everyone to do their part in helping to close down the Federal Reserve! I never cared for banks and their stockholders who have abused the world for so long! It is time for everyone to take that stand against the evil in this world!

Thursday March 13, 2008, 6:43 pm
Once one gets really educated and starts to see the big picture, it's not hard to understand why they have so wanted to get rid of net neutrality. We who have awaken want the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Mainstream/corporate media and those who control it want to give us lies, propaganda, hype, sensationalism and more lies. They thought they had sufficiently dumbed everyone down. I think they were wrong. Alex Jones says there are 2 things they are terrified of. 01.) The masses waking up and getting educated. 02.) The masses rising up. I have to admit, there is a 3rd thing Alex says they are terrified of, but I don't remember what it is. I think the 1st 2 are sufficient for the time being.

For the purpose of further helping to play my part in the solution, here are a couple of links, you will find interesting. Appalling, but interesting at the same time. I heard Charlotte Iserbyt on the Alex Jones show. She used to be head of the US Dept of Education under Reagan. She became privy and then suspicious re what was really going on in the ducational system in America. She leaked a document exposing the plot to dumb our kids down, and was fired. She wrote a book in 1999. 750 pages of truth and actual documents which expose the entire thing.

When you get to the page the first link will take you to, type in the name Kenny Hignite and you will see the actual test on the Constitution of the United States Of America, which was given to 8th grade students in 1954. They haven't given this test in who knows how many years because they wanted the American people to "FORGET" we have a constituton and certainly to "FORGET" what it promises American citizens.

(That's why Alex Jones sends out a booklet containing the constitution,the Bill of Rights and other good info with every purchase one makes from Kenny scored 98 1/2% on this test and his teacher wrote "excellent" across the top. Charlotte Iserbeyt has posted the test for everyone to see. It's not easy to read hs answers because they are hand written in cursive writing, but one can make out much of it. Just call this education 101.


Thursday March 13, 2008, 6:47 pm
Please forgive the typo's in my last post. ducational is supposed to be educational So much for my typing skills........

Carolyn T (234)
Thursday March 13, 2008, 10:33 pm
Noted. What a service you performed in getting word out to watch this right away. Very Important!!!! Thank you.

Tarrah, I, too, watched that movie and it something to put down on one's calendar and block the time. Highly recommended; thanks for mentioning it here.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Thursday March 13, 2008, 10:41 pm

Eleda, you are truly a wise choice as a dear friend!

Carolyn, ditto!

I am overwhelmed by the warm response to this . . . I was, admittedly, reluctant (intimidated) to release it (and it was brought to my attention by my friend, Eleda, who also introduced me to the "Bilderberg Group" -- a wise woman).

You have all renewed my faith!

Friday March 14, 2008, 3:02 pm
Carole you are also a very wise choice as a dear friend! I so appreciate the first time I received a message from you. People like you make me grateful I discovered Care2 message boards and grateful to be alive!

I too am thrilled to see the warm response to this discussion. I hope it grows into the stratosphere. The good guys must stick together.

Since the beginning of time there have always been those who are so filled with fear they have plunged themselves into the abyss of insanity and have become obsessed with lust for power and control, It is nothing new.

I think what is new is finding out that many seemingly in control of the United States Of America were not immune to this kind of mental and emotional dis-ease. People who have justified appalling behavior and have propelled themselves into believing they are superior, have the right to perpetrate and perpetuate atrocities that are morally and karmically wrong and incorrect, all the while declaring their beliefs and actions to be right.

I don't know how many could have foreseen criminally insane people somehow rising to positions of power in America? I know many of our forefathers warned against the very circumstances that have taken place over the last 100 years and circumstances which are happening now. As a general rule, I don't think many could have known in advance. Few would have had reason to suspect.

I do believe the truth sets us free and we have more truth available to us now than every in the history of America, or the history of the world for that matter. Seek and ye shall find. I will end this post with my favorite quote: "When I despair I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have always been tyrants and murderers and for a time they can seem invincible but in the end they always fall. Think on it. Always." - Mohandas K. Ghandi - 1869-1948.

Dermot Ryan (3)
Friday March 14, 2008, 8:28 pm
WHERE has The ownership of the 12 Central banks, a very well kept secret, been revealed? do they get dividends?the incomes of the rich and poor are diverging with incredible speed. direct instead of income taxes would dramatically accelerate this.
as an economist with post graduate work at UCLA and Stanford I support you but 'festina lente.'


Maureen S (122)
Saturday March 15, 2008, 1:21 pm
Indeed!!! So many comments in support . . . I can't add anything to all of this except total agreement!!! Thanks Sister for posting it!!! (Not tracking)

Blue Bunting (855)
Saturday March 15, 2008, 1:25 pm
Fpr tjpse pf upi wjp javen't yet read about what is

All part of the NeoCON/Bu$h PNAC Plan ...

Just in case some think all Americans are naïve - unaware of the results their actions - read, for example, Ralph Peter's article, Constant Conflict in the 1997 US Army War College Quarterly.

“There will be no peace. At any given moment for the rest of our lifetimes, there will be multiple conflicts in mutating forms around the globe. Violent conflict will dominate the headlines, but cultural and economic struggles will be steadier and ultimately more decisive.

The de facto role of the US armed forces will be to keep the world safe for our economy and open to our cultural assault. To those ends, we will do a fair amount of killing.

We are building an information-based military to do that killing. . . . . ”

The pathological problem with the neoconservatives is that they are myopic - unwilling to see, or hear criticism of, what conflicts with their ambition. They do not care how many people are killed. Morality does not exist in their corporate quest.




Bu$h and PNAC = perpetual war and endless $$$ for Bu$h's war toys to line the pockets of his cronies/defense contractors!


Dermot Ryan (3)
Saturday March 15, 2008, 8:59 pm
TOTAL agreement think for a moment

Dermot Ryan (3)
Saturday March 15, 2008, 9:25 pm
If u know that ur fellow humans kill 25000 daily by starvation your attitude towards them becomes a little nervous. they seem like unsafe.

Sunday March 16, 2008, 6:08 pm
WAKE UP AMERICA - Education 101 Part II

Here's another video a friend told me about. It's another important watch.

This also should be passed on far and wide so it reaches the stratosphere.......

Michael Sandstrom (306)
Sunday March 16, 2008, 7:16 pm
Do you mean to tell me that its not "We the People, By the People, For the People, Of the People, it's We the Rich, For the Rich, By the Rich, Of the Rich??

Michael Sandstrom (306)
Sunday March 16, 2008, 7:24 pm
The Congress shall have power--

1. To lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts, and excises, to pay the debts, and provide for the common defence and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts, and excises, shall be uniform throughout the United States:

2. To borrow money on the credit of the United States:

3. To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian tribes:

4. To establish an uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States:

5. To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures:

6. To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States:

The above is right out of the Constitution, I have NEVER even seen the IRS mentioned in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights,,,, did I "miss" something somewhere?? I guess I need to find out when the IRS came to being, how and why??

Monday March 17, 2008, 3:45 pm
Watch Aaron Russo's "America From Freedom To Fascism". It tells the entire story of how and when the IRS came to be. It also tells the entire story re: how and why the Fed Reserve came to be. This film is Aaron Russo's legacy to us. He passed away after a very long battle with cancer. He was an awesome, awesome, well loved and patriotic man.

So you can see some background on Aaron Russo, here's the link to an interview he gave:

Maia W (7)
Monday March 24, 2008, 9:12 am
This is powerful knowledge and needs to be spread around before Theft Day! It's time for this country to get educated and reinforcing the Constitution!

Past Member (0)
Saturday March 29, 2008, 9:13 pm
Watched in awe...thanx carole...Downloaded to REALplayer...Available on request...Cheers d.

Past Member (0)
Saturday March 29, 2008, 9:17 pm
Your turn?...Can you do something with that 'thing' I sent?...Gotta go out...d.

Barry Seth (118)
Saturday March 29, 2008, 9:35 pm
Noted and U-tube video added to my page. Thanks Carole

Gail L (30)
Sunday March 30, 2008, 3:44 am

Shirley Shaw (44)
Sunday March 30, 2008, 10:02 am

Genna B (58)
Tuesday April 1, 2008, 10:51 am
noted, and appreciated...I am forwarding this not just here on care2...but to everyone in my address books...

Mary M (20)
Wednesday April 2, 2008, 5:20 pm
Awesome!! Noted and thanks so much Just C.

Mary M (20)
Wednesday April 2, 2008, 5:38 pm
I've also sent this to my family and friends.

Blacktiger P (247)
Monday April 14, 2008, 12:53 am
I have this downloaded to my "Real" player library, and I'm glad to see this uprising, as I have said all along you must as a whole, every one not pay the tax which is used to feed the war machine. The commander-in-chief has the # of the beast and it is 666. The Vatican has the #666 of the beast.Pope John Paul 2nd, also had the Mark and #666 of the beast. The skull and bones group has the #666 of the beast. Why be a slave to the beast. Be your own person,live your own life, don't allow the Beast to MARK YOU AS HIS OWN.

Manuel Duarte (1005)
Monday April 14, 2008, 3:07 am
Noted.Thank you.

Past Member (0)
Monday April 14, 2008, 6:20 am
My PC Switches completely off after about one minute of where else though...yet!

Carolyn T (234)
Monday April 14, 2008, 7:24 am
Noted. Glad you let me know about this important and, to my way of thinking, excellent video. Am forwarding to personal address book today. Thank you, 'C'!

DancingDove Sings (92)
Monday April 14, 2008, 10:18 am
Hurray! I thought I was the only one! a little tip--it is illegal not to file so file but I don't send any money...This is the ultimate revolution. If we ALL did it... I wish... Bring them to their weak little knees... Or would the citizens of the US prefer to fund their own martial law??? (BTW, the truckers just did a strike here in the Bay Area and stopped their trucks on the freeways, traffic was gridlocked.)
Also, don't forget the Black Budget which most folks don't even know about that is entirely off the books... Also, there is a movement where yo ucan declare total legal sovereignty of the US Gov.
Thank You!

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Monday April 14, 2008, 10:26 am

Thanks, DancingDove.

For even more in-depth information on this subject, please view:

"America: Freedom to Fascism" by Aaron Russo. It's an eye-opener!

. (0)
Monday April 14, 2008, 11:16 am
noted,and with many thanks

Past Member (0)
Monday April 14, 2008, 12:57 pm
Noted, thanks, only I could not download it..Thanks

Maryanne C (111)
Monday April 14, 2008, 1:14 pm
Noted,thank you.

DancingDove Sings (92)
Monday April 14, 2008, 1:48 pm
Thanks Carole. I will watch as soon as I get time. I checked out the website. Haiti is the first experiment where they are pretty much creating an island of slaves and the world is standing by doing NOTHING! -- BEWARD THE FREE TRADE ZONE!

. (0)
Monday April 14, 2008, 3:12 pm
Black Tiger you have great knowleage and I agree with each and everyone here the IRS is a scam and always has been. And as for the president runnings your right only yhr rich will get in there have you ever seen a middle class or a poor president in there? Heck no!!! because they would be for us not themselves. yea its time for a change alright but not with either one of them for they are both out for one one themselves. thank you for all this info. Just C. noted

Monday April 14, 2008, 4:09 pm
"Thank you for this information do you know when Hery Ford lived?
The revolution will never come...
You would need people power but the system does not allow
people power....
GWB has never been in Power America is ruled by the people who
controle this system....
It has been working perfect for many many years and it will
work perfect for the happy few for many many years to come
15.04.2008 a very special date i would hope that for you!
i am sorry for all the people of the USA! Forget that you can
change it no Obama co Clinton nobody will change this!
You are not even allowed to choose the president you want....
That is also done by the system...

I am glad that i live in Europe in a true democracy!

The intended power grab is a global issue. The plan takes down America first, then the long arm of tyranny would reach out EVERYWHERE. It is said Nazi Germany was a trial run. Anyone who cares about their children, regardless of where they live, should do what they can to be part of the solution. No one should think "it can't happen here". The global elite, the banskters, the power brokers want to control everyone everywhere in the world

The only thing that can stop the plan is for the masses to wake up and rise up. The global elite are TERRIFIED of the masses awakening and rising up against their evil agenda. it is the ONLY thin they are terrified of. If was are not part of the solution, we are part of the problem........

Roxann C (398)
Monday April 14, 2008, 4:34 pm

Sandra Weston (24)
Tuesday April 15, 2008, 8:15 am
noted, wow!! Very enlightening!! No wander single parents can not get ahead!!

DancingDove Sings (92)
Tuesday April 15, 2008, 10:15 am
Still, no one notices HAITI...

Tuesday April 15, 2008, 7:07 pm
I apologize for not making it clearer I copied and pasted someone elses post in my last comment. I was responding to his post.

The Atrocities which have taken place everywhere, including Haiti are all a symptom of the same problem. Haiti, Iraq, allegedly Iran next, all part of the same New World Order. All of it is appalling and horrifying!

Anna A (8)
Thursday April 17, 2008, 7:06 am
I have been doing this for a long time. I have three bucks in the bank to cash pay checks. I am pating down my debts slowly and painfully. I have no credit.
I love my country, But I loathe my government.
I don't think that theft day should stop here. I think we should do it every year if not every day. I think that we should do it, and grow it with every chance we get.
I could see a sea of white arm bands.
Can you?

Thursday April 17, 2008, 3:02 pm
I agree.......for a long, long time Webster Tarpley hsa been saying "we the people" need to go on general strike. This means to make a difference, we must STOP paying into the system. Buying everything we need from the local mom & Pop businesses that still exist is a great way to say NO to the big corporations. Buying all produce from local farmers markets. What we can't get from farmers markets we could hopefully grow ourselves. Big corporations are part of the ogliarcy. Walmart is especially connected because the owners of Walmart are attached at the hip to the power monger brokers and on top of that, they treat their employees, and customers like just so much chopped liver..........

We had a wonderful mom & pop hardware store. It was here long before we ever moved where we live, probably 50 years or longer. Thanks to Walmart, they could no longer hang on and were forced out of business. For over 50 years people who lived in our area relied on this hardware store for just about everything they needed. They didn't just sell hardware, they sold appliances and other things too. I felt broken hearted when I found out they were closing.

No one bothered to fight out here, few uttered a word when they built the first Walmart. Then Walmart decided to build a 2nd. 2 wasn't enough for them, they just had to build a 3rd one, this time a superstore. I couldn't believe people were deadly silent about it all. We don't need 3 bloody Walmarts here, we didn't need the first one. We might have a population of 150,000. Our entire city is probably only 15 miles long and 15 miles wide at the most. I tried to get people active in just saying NO to Walmart. Sadly it was a worthless exercise..........and now we've lost Newhall Hardware as the result...........very, very sad.

We MUST support mom & pop businesses again. By shopping mom & pop and doing everything we can to ignore the big corporations, the mom & pops will make the money and perhaps thrive again. The corporations will be left holding the bag. I realize big corporations provide jobs, but if enough mom & pops get enough business back and start earning enough $$$ again, they will provide much better jobs than big corporations do. It's always been said the best way to get someone's attention is through their pocket book. If enough people just STOP paying into the system it could get attention and start a new trend. Who would rather see Walmarts going out of business while mom & pops begin thriving again? It has been said that the cheap prices Walmart has offered was just to suck everyone in and once they have all the business, their prices will skyrocket. Another way to lower the boom. Why don't we send a message loud and clear.....

We should also start a campaign DEMANDING the return of hemp growing. The reason they started the huge campaign against marijuana and got everyone to believe marijuana is so bad was to eliminate hemp. If hemp was grown in America again, there would be NO NEED to EVER cut down so much as ONE TREE ever again. We would have all the paper we ever needed and could save every tree. Most things made from petroleum products can be made from hemp. Here's video footage about hemp for anyone who hasn't seen it:

And for those who haven't yet seen America From Freedom To Fascism, here is the directors authorized version:

Both of these films should be passed on far and wide.........

Lydia S (71)
Saturday April 19, 2008, 6:16 am
Eleda, you are absolutely right! I saw the same thing happen here in Virginia, in my small rural community. First one Wal-Mart, then a second. The second wasn't enough -- a third Superstore was built. The second one forced some 150 poor families out of a mobile home park, leaving them without affordable housing. As a middle school teacher at the time, I saw the impact it had on my students. People fought this, but the Board of Supervisors were CORRUPT -- they basically said, "it's a done deal" and went ahead with the project. They did the same thing with a golf course, which took out a huge swath of a public park which provided a safe play area for the local children. And then they sold some agricultural land, and put in a Truck Stop & Burger King. For weeks, the deer herd, which was displaced, was being run over by cars & trucks, while they bulldozed the forest! All for the profit of these GREEDY Corporations!

I refuse to set foot in these establishments. I buy my clothes & other items from consignment shops, farmers markets & local grocery store for food, raise my free-range hens for eggs, bake my own bread, make cheese & yogurt, etc. Eventually, I fear that NAIS, (the National Animal Identification System), which is currently voluntary, but is expected to become mandatory by 2009 -- will make it illegal for us to raise our own animals, and have to get ALL OUR FOOD from BIG AGRI-CORPORATIONS -- genetically modified, poisoned food,


I strongly recommend the book, "Rule By Secrecy" by Jim Marrs, to understand what is happening not just in the US, but Globally.

Also, view Mike Parenti videos on YouTube. He also deals with these important issues!

Finally, I think some Americans are waking up. I hope it's not too late!

BTW -- Flouride was used by the Nazis to make Germans apathetic! It is a neurotoxin, which renders people in a fog, and makes them unable to think and analyze. It damages the teeth! It is more dangerous than lead or mercury! So, WHY OH WHY does the FDA, EPA, etc., allow us to be poisoned?!

Another threat to our health, is Aspartame, otherwise known as NutraSweet -- passed by the FDA courtesy of the War Criminal Donald Rumsfeld, who became CEO of G.D. Searle, owner of the patent for Aspartame.

Saturday April 19, 2008, 1:17 pm
Thanks for you post Lydia!!!! What happened in Virginia is disgusting. Another example of their push to create the NWO! I guess this kind of bs has happened everywhere.

I pretty much know all the stuff you've mentioned Lydia. The flouride, nutrasweet, (I refuse to use Nutrasweet/Aspartame, I know it was Rumsfeld's baby!!), the mercury and other crap in vaccines. We have a fabulous son, but because mercury is the toxic tipping point, he's one of the kids in the world with high functioning autism. I listen to Alex Jones all the time. I've learned more than enough to turn my brown eyes blue, very blue!!!!!

I've also been reading Daniel Estulin's "The Truth About The Bilderberg Group". YES, we must take our lives back. We also MUST take America back from the bansksters. The Federal Reserve must be abolished! We must put people in Congress who have a conscience, heart, are honorable and can't be bought or blackmailed/extorted into doing the bidding of the banksters.

I listened to an Alex Jones interview with Richard Gage yesterday. It was from a few weeks ago. Richard Gage is the architect who started AE911truth:

He said AE911 truth is almost 1,000 strong now and continues to grow by leaps and bounds as more architects and engineers nationwide and even worldwide get educated and jump on board. They plan to take on Congress, really get in the faces of those in Congress. Congress will be unable to ignore them.

For a long time Alex has been saying "We are winning the info war". If each of us educates 2 people and those 2 people diligently educate 2 more, the truth will spread like wildfire in no time. Alex says the house of cards the elitists/banksters/neo-cons etal built on lies is already collapsing around them. In the interview he and Richard Gage discussed the fact that the reason they haven't pulled off another 9/11 is because of the 9/11 truth movement. They KNOW they're caught and it's only a matter of time before the whole gulag is exposed and brought to it's knees. That's why they've needed to dish out so much fear mongering. How else does one try to control others when they know they are losing their war but through fear mongering. They may think they've won some of the battle, but they haven't won the war. It's like they've been pushing hard making a last ditch effort to hang on to their sinking ship, because even they know it's going down.

I believe if we all just keep on keeping on, we can make a huge, huge difference. In the interest of making a difference, here's this video. I've been watching on the installment plan. I think for us to take America back, we must start at the beginning, how and why we've wound up in this huge mess. This film is long, but installment plan is good. This film should be passed on far and wide. We CAN make a huge difference.

We also must keep in mind this simple fact; those pulling the strings are sick twisted psychopaths with no conscience. I believe the result of all the inbreeding they have practiced for so long, to keep their blood line pure. HA, they may have kept their blood line pure, but they turned their brains to mush by doing it. They have also hijacked many Christian churches, another thing on the long list of deplorable things they've done. Here is a short video which shows what preachers who have been bought and paid for have done. This video is disgusting. It also needs to be passed on far and wide:

I think this video shows just how low they have been willing to go. They all belong behind bars where they can play their power mongering control trips with each other and no one else.....

They are terrified of the masses awakening, rising above their gulag and rising up against them. When one fears something it is as though they are wishing for it. I believe they day will come when they will get their wish!

"Never doubt that a few, thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world: Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." - Margaret Mead


Shan D (36)
Wednesday April 23, 2008, 3:49 pm
My dad had a run in with the IRS years ago. He paid taxes, but they claimed he didn't file or something. They came after our house and bank accounts too. My father read ALL of the IRS Code or Law books and fought them. They didn't want to admit he won, but somehow he did win. Amazing what people/organization can do to families. Im a disabled domestic abuse Survivor and Proud Mom to 3 children. I WILL pass this along. Blessings~Shanan

Shan D (36)
Wednesday April 23, 2008, 3:51 pm
By the way my father had to fly helicopters in Vietnam and is a partially disabled Army Vet. HE NEVER deserved this treatment. No Person , but especially those who have Served to keep us Safe and Somewhat FREE.

Past Member (0)
Tuesday June 17, 2008, 8:29 am
Noted. Very interesting! Thanx

Past Member (0)
Thursday December 17, 2009, 3:56 am
I believe more and more people are becoming aware of this corruption. But they do nothing because they have become desensitized to this foul action through the facets of owning money. Money gives many people pleasure, and they like to keep it that way. In order to get people to change their views on the Federal Reserve we need to change the people's perspectives on money. Money does not buy love, and with love we could create a resistance.

psp protection

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Thursday March 12, 2015, 3:09 pm
Psychopath Test Politicians during security clearance background checks.
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